Argon One Raspberry Pi 4 Case

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  • @adarshsingh764
    @adarshsingh764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    They could put the bigger HDMI port on the black board

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      Now this would have been an excellent idea, as they are extending anyway. They missed a trick here.

    • @АлексейГриднев-и7р
      @АлексейГриднев-и7р 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Thebrightestbrick88 I bought an adapter, and it does not seem to work reliably at all. Sometimes, the image just goes on and off without a reason, even though I tried different settings in config.txt to fix that.

    • @RowCZ
      @RowCZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That was the first idea that I had when I saw that expansion board... thay could replace that awkward micro HDMI with proper one... have no idea why they didn't :-/

    • @Colin_Ames
      @Colin_Ames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I agree, full size HDMI would have been a good idea.

    • @NickT6630
      @NickT6630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I agree the HDMI port is ridiculous on the PI 4. Should of extended it out to full size HDMI.

  • @somberrhombus
    @somberrhombus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Really wish a board that takes the time to move the connectors like this would have instead given us two full sized HDMI connectors. Those adapters are a tad expensive.

    • @hnahler
      @hnahler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      John Toepfer , that was exactly my thought as well when I watched it.

    • @dpwaaw
      @dpwaaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hnahler didn't think of that but glad you brought it up - plenty of room for full size HDMI connectors!

    • @jaydevchhagan
      @jaydevchhagan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      same but If it also have a place to put a 2.5 slot this would 100% be the best case.

    • @arraybytes
      @arraybytes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They could have done an over and under on the hdmi and still had them full size without a larger board.

    • @rager1969
      @rager1969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My thoughts exactly, or at least a full size HDMI for the primary. Going a step further, I think it was a mistake for the Raspberry Pi Foundation to have used Micro HDMI. Hopefully, they'll fix that with their next revision.

  • @HVG67
    @HVG67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The fact that you can have all the darn connectors on one side and not have a mess for me is the biggest selling point.

  • @Membrane556
    @Membrane556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The power button location is not the only opportunity they missed with the design as they could have made one of the HDMI ports full sized and added a barrel connector for more PSU options.
    Other than that it's a decent case for $25.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Agreed on full-size HDMI! :)

    • @81pieda
      @81pieda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking the exact same thing about the HDMI port while watching the video!

    • @dboymax1
      @dboymax1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      another poor design choice is no pass through for the camera and display connectors for the Pi4

    • @jrdavis1992
      @jrdavis1992 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since this video, there's a revision to the case: the A/V daughterboard has full-size HDMI ports. The case has also been updated to match. [I have a Pi 4]

  • @SussexHistory
    @SussexHistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for another inimitable review. I like the way you managed to keep the case in the shot and how you bluffed your way through it on camera when you found it difficult to get the part out of the bag!

  • @markconger8049
    @markconger8049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have this case and LOVE it. Two things of note. One, you can inspect the code of the shutdown script if you prefer before applying it. And two, even if you do not install the shutdown script you can still use the button to power off - just hold it down a few seconds. I found that the fan is not even needed because the heat sink works so well. Also, I prefer to have the back of the case turned to be the front so I can connect and disconnect easily. Note, the power supply for this is more powerful than the official Pi supply. Again, I love this case.

  • @stevensexton5801
    @stevensexton5801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect timing Chris!! I bought a PI 4 this week and bought a GeeekPi Raspberry Pi 4 Armor Case with a single 3510 Fan from Amazon. Just ran your script and got these results: temp=31.0'C
    , temp=42.0'C, temp=43.0'C, temp=43.0'C, temp=44.0'C, temp=44.0'C, temp=44.0'C, temp=44.0'C.
    Thanks for sharing. Love your videos.
    BTW, Mine doesn't make tea.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That case you have is an excellent case, probably my favourite.

  • @Aelitaa4
    @Aelitaa4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I decided to buy Raspberry Pi 4
    Thank you Chris for all rpi videos :)
    Finally I'll test my knowledge on real hardware

  • @Theoriginalborgy
    @Theoriginalborgy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Why didn’t they design it with full size HDMI’s on the expansion board ?

    • @Kathdath
      @Kathdath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Was just thinking that would be a good 'upgrade' they could make for a future version.

    • @YawnDogg
      @YawnDogg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      100% agree

    • @dan8t669
      @dan8t669 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Kathdath No.
      It's such a gross design flaw; there's no way they get it right the second time.

    • @Ts6451
      @Ts6451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Going with Mini-HDMI is not really a flawed design or even that bad a choice, it means this case would be usable in an existing setup, so it is suitable for someone that has been using a bare board or is looking for a case with better thermals, and since the base RPi 4 has the same ports, anyone looking to get into using them is going to need cables or adapters anyway.
      That said, there probably would be a market for a version of this case that had full size HDMI ports, that way you could choose the version that best fit your needs and setup.

    • @dan8t669
      @dan8t669 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ts6451 It's not mini-HDMI. Your argument is invalid.

  • @perrymcclusky4695
    @perrymcclusky4695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes! “How to make tea with the Raspberry Pi 4 project” gets my vote. I appreciate this case review and look forward to your next video.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, a project for me now!

    • @semuhphor
      @semuhphor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quite nice to have Pi with tea, yes?

  • @studiokadaver
    @studiokadaver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I purchased this case when I ordered my 4gb Pi 4 BEST CASE PERIOD! I’m about to order the Pi 3 version as well!

  • @stephenelliott7071
    @stephenelliott7071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This looks like a very good case, so thanks for bringing it to my attention Chris. I currently use the Flirc case which is passive cooled and turns the case into a large heatsink, as you mentioned. I've tried the fan shim solution, but while very quiet and effective, it gives the pi no protection what-so-ever - and indeed no protection for the fan itself! In general use my pi 4 runs around 50 degrees, so setting the fan to come on at 55 degrees for a short time if required seems like a good solution.

  • @richarddennehy3684
    @richarddennehy3684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for your review, Christopher. I was a little concerned that you might not have removed the plastic from both sides of the heat transfer paste, but when I looked carefully at your "speeded up" application, I determined that you had, so "All Good" as they say.
    I have had one of these cases on my new Pi4 for a little while and I am quite impressed with its appearance and accessibility/ protection of the GPIO pins.
    Keep well. I look forward to your next video.

  • @PsiQ
    @PsiQ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I see a man who knows what he wants, proper AT standard switching, no unneeded software
    switching mains and reducing standby power to zero.

  • @lesliedeana5142
    @lesliedeana5142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I like the idea of the script for the power button, forcing an ORDERLY shutdown, and not just 'pulling the plug' and possibly frying the SD card and it's contents.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree 100%, and I'll add SD cards are not the most expensive things to replace, but the prices have gone up slightly at least here in the US from ligit sellers of quality brands like ADATA, Sandisk, PNY, etc..

    • @leredempteur3011
      @leredempteur3011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Commodorefan64 corona effect , factories 🏭 are slowing down production in China (now we live a rebirth in the production with an increase of production to deliver worldwide )

    • @raulrrojas
      @raulrrojas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't think the SD can be fried by doing it. In fact if using raspbian most of the system activity happens in ram filesystems. I have a wattering controller since 2 years which uses an raspberry pi3b+, raspbian, and had no issues during loss of energy

    • @ctheroux
      @ctheroux 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The card won't be fried but might get corrupted. Likely, you will have to reflash it.

    • @jhvhest
      @jhvhest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the same case. I am really happy with it. Though there ain't no option to install the script on other distributions. I am wondering if the fan works also without the script?
      That's a bit of a pity.

  • @CalebHawn
    @CalebHawn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey, this is the case that I have! I also have the flirc case for my server (thanks to EC's recommendation and Amazon link), but my Pi in my living room has the Argon One, and it looks really nice. When it comes to the script, the install command just downloads it using curl and pipes it through bash to run it. You can always manually go to the link to read and download it. I think it's a nice case, and now it's good to know how it compares in terms of cooling. Thanks for another great video! 👍

  • @resrussia
    @resrussia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for a good review of the Argon One case. I like the design of the case with all of the ports in the back. I like the concept of having easy access the GPIO pins. I am curious whether the how well the concept of the worked in practice. Thanks for all of the hard work you put into your videos and I am looking forward seeing the what new topics you will cover on the channel.

  • @neelstheron3252
    @neelstheron3252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I like about the case is that it gives a nice professional look to the Raspberry Pi

  • @robear0135
    @robear0135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would be interested in the IR capabilities as at 6:00 there is a IR OUT and IR IN option on the board within the case. I cant seem to find anything on Argon's site about this. It would be nice to see a review of a case that has IR Remote capabilities. I would like to use this case for a Kodi setup, but would like to use a remote (obviously) for control.

    • @hefran22
      @hefran22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually wrote an email to the Argon people and their response was:
      start-Quote
      Our cases don’t officially have IR support, but there are ways you can use the IR ports.
      We recommend that you try out this guide in the link below: www.hackster.io/austin-stanton/creating-a-raspberry-pi-universal-remote-with-lirc-2fd581
      end-Quote
      I have not yet taken time to study the PCB layout and follow the routing of the prepared space for IR sensors, in order to match it with the description in the link they sent me.
      If anyone does that, I will be interested to know the result.

  • @MrTiegerauge
    @MrTiegerauge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally a case with added value. I am now a proud owner.

  • @t.w.3
    @t.w.3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have this case. Amazing for desktop use. Great performance, and new user friendly. Thanks for the review.

  • @Brian_Of_Melbourne
    @Brian_Of_Melbourne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got one of these a few weeks back. It is great, bringing all the ports to one edge was the winner for me. Interestingly, I found that the gap in the casting for the Ethernet connector was not quite big enough. A few strokes with a file sorted it for me, but I'm not sure what a less DIY inclined person would have made of the situation.

  • @ChrisShadowens
    @ChrisShadowens 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great job, Stanley! You're definitely a cut above the rest!

    • @williamhorton9763
      @williamhorton9763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mr. Scissors is a *cut* above the rest. Stanley the Knife is a *slice* above the rest.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      :)

  • @WaLApA117
    @WaLApA117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been eyeing this case for a while, but now I'm fully convinced: I just noticed the top board (which has the GPIO connections and the fan) has a spot to solder an IR receiver to! Definitely grabbing this case once I got my hands on a Pi 4 for my media player upgrade!

  • @NeilFeltham
    @NeilFeltham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I have had this case for several months now and cannot fault it really other than the script will only run in Raspbian. To date I have not found a variation of the script so that it will run with Ubuntu Server. At the moment my Argon One Pi4 is running Rosetta@Home crunching data in the fight against COVID-19

    • @sentinel9651
      @sentinel9651 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it possible to adapt the script to other OSes?

    • @dannyconnell8827
      @dannyconnell8827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It seems like most of the scripts they have available are for oses built off of Raspbian. Pretty sure they have retropie, recalbox and osmc scripts, but not major Linux versions.

    • @Roqueeee
      @Roqueeee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been using this case since last christmas. With a basic understanding of systemd, python and shell scripting the 'argon1.sh' script can be modified to run under most distros. The main thing really is to meet the dependencies for raspi-gpio python-rpi.gpio python3-rpi.gpio python-smbus python3-smbus i2c-tools. These might have different names in your distro. The python libraries can also be installed through pip. I'm really just using 'argononed-poweroff.py' inside /lib/systemd/system-shutdown/ so that power is cut to the board after poweroff. I have no need for fancy fan control and power button monitoring for reboot etc. I confirmed this with arch arm, but running with raspbian atm.

    • @johnm2012
      @johnm2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Without the script installed does the fan run at full speed, or not at all? I like the look of the case because of how it relocates the sockets to the back but I wouldn't want to be forced to use Raspbian.

    • @vgamesx1
      @vgamesx1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't get why the fan is software controlled anyway, they already have the fan on its own breakout board so would it have really been that much trouble to add a simple temperature sensor and make it operate independent of the OS?

  • @jkn8932
    @jkn8932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    True case that literally makes raspberry Pi as desktop replacement. With fan profile and power button it is fantastic.

  • @rjbook51
    @rjbook51 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love the case, but for 44$ cdn through Canakit, I think I'll stick for my cheap case retrofitted with an 80mm fan. It's almost as much as the Pi!!!

  • @jimpilot330
    @jimpilot330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would have been useful to do tests with the fan running at 10 and 50% power as it's not just a passive case. I also agree with previous comments about adding full size hdmi support in the larger case. Great video as ever Chris!

  • @MrBlackFiction
    @MrBlackFiction 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have like 8 of them as a Thin Client working.
    I ABSOLUTLY LOVE the Power Button Feature, but i would love to see it with 2 Full Size HDMI ports for Durability.
    Temperature is just perfect.
    With the new driver freerdp works just fine now.
    You dont have to install the software to power on the pi or if you want to force shutdown the pi, You only have to install it for the Fan and the Reboot/ Soft Shutdown part of the powerbutton.

  • @rancidbeef582
    @rancidbeef582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really think the soft power button is one of its nicest features. It shuts the machine down without having to worry about trashing the SD card. I use mine all the time... just hold the button 3 seconds, release, and wait until the red light goes out and you're good.

  • @EdDotNL
    @EdDotNL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use thic case for an emulation / retropie build. Passieve cooling is great as is the on / off button for my kids. Active fan only kicks in sometimes when i overclock. Only negative in my opinion is the scripted install (want to know what's happening) for the software controlled fan. BTW, using flirc cases for my other pi based servers.

  • @sovereignlivingsoul
    @sovereignlivingsoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. My Argon One M.2 SSD capable case came yesterday, copied Raspian OS onto the SSD and USB boot here we come. Working great, temperature 48 deg. This was an easy case to assemble, and although you don't have access to the microSD slot, I like how the Argon One case looks and performs, active cooling and passive cooling makes this a definite contender for a must have for anyone wanting to switch to Raspian Pi as their main Desktop System. I am expecting a new PCB board from DeskPi in March for the DeskPi Pro I bought that doesn't work, I hope it functions just as nicely as the Argon One. Nice case, no power supply though, not a deal breaker, but would be nice.

  • @Viewbob_True
    @Viewbob_True 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As a young child, Christopher's village was attacked and burned down by a roaming band of software-controlled power buttons

  • @waynenewark5363
    @waynenewark5363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this case. Protects the Pi, moves the ports to one side, has a fan to cool the Pi and still allows access to the GPIO pins.
    Though I must remember to install the formatted SD card before I get any HDMI output. 🤭

  • @donkeyk1988
    @donkeyk1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I purchased this case this week also, and am glad you took your SD card out of the Pi before you installed the case: I forgot.
    One crunching sound later, and I am now the non-beneficial owner of a borked 16GB SD card. Oops!

  • @PatrickConstant
    @PatrickConstant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your style, I like your accent. I like your subjects. Continuing like this it's perfect.
    Patrick from France 🇨🇵

  • @wbazan36201
    @wbazan36201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My issue with these type of aluminum cases is that wireless connectivity is hindered. Both WiFi and Bluetooth will suffer.

    • @RoshiGaming
      @RoshiGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      wonder if they'd be able to cobble something together to have a small external antenna as an option...

    • @alexlandherr
      @alexlandherr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe use a USB WiFi+Bluetooth dongle?

  • @DominicWattsUK
    @DominicWattsUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have just bought one of these and fitted it too after watching your video. Extremely well built and a very easy process. Looks stunning and I can see that the cooling from the case is working already, don't know if the fan will come on in my use or not - let's see. Thank you.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to hear. Sounds like you are very happy with this case. :) And I am not surprised.

  • @jsimmonstx
    @jsimmonstx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a great case for a HTPC setup, because it relocates all the cables to the back. I've got two of them. $25 on Amazon. :)

  • @BeOurBee
    @BeOurBee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the port breakout board, you can see pads for IR transmit-receivers. The transparent plastic would let IR from a remote control shine through, in addition to letting the red power light show. With all the ports around the back, that makes this look like a very attractive HTPC enclosure.
    Overall the case seems pretty well-designed, whether you want to use it as a mini-PC, HTPC, or just a cool project box (with that nicely labeled 40 pin panel).

  • @metalheadmalta
    @metalheadmalta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aaargh! For some insane reason, I hate those tiny hdmi ports and definitely feel that Argon missed a great chance to fit a full size HDMI there. Breaking an hdmi cable on the road without the possibility to substitute with a common-garden cable is nuts. there is enough space to do that. Other than that, this looks to be a good case.

  • @62shalaka
    @62shalaka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video.
    A tip: trial fit the board into the case before incorporating the thermal pads. It's safer that way, but probably wouldn't work into the video very well.

  • @MrSanktPeter
    @MrSanktPeter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Chris for all your RPi videos :)
    I bought this case a few weeks ago and played around with some distros. I also installed Manjaro and LibreELEC on some micro SD Cards. Is there a chance that you make a video for other distros as Raspbian, like e.g. Manjaro, LibreELEC or whatever, using this ArgonOne Case (concerning the script for the fan)? :)
    I think there are a lot of guys looking for a script that works with this case. Thank you. Kind regards,Peter

  • @ElmerFuddGun
    @ElmerFuddGun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Access to the 40 pin GPIO looks like it might be a problem for expansion boards. The boards will hit the case before being fully on the pins. Not a problem if you are just connecting a few wires to the pins but for a PCB you will likely need some kind of extender.

  • @ElmerFuddGun
    @ElmerFuddGun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What don't you like about the "software" power button? How does the Pi 4 normally shut down then?
    I would like a power button that works like it does on my PC... short push and it shuts down the programs and OS in an orderly fashion and then turns off the power. Long press and it shuts down without asking the OS for when something really wrong happens. Or use the OS's shutdown command.
    Ideally this shouldn't rely on the OS still being in control like this power button seems to require.

    • @TheDotBot
      @TheDotBot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that's all well and good, but the soft power off still doesn't eliminate the need to get up, go over and switch the thing off.

    • @jzapanta5537
      @jzapanta5537 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Argon One power button behaves like a normal PC would when the script is installed. Once pressed it will initiate a soft shut down, then it cuts the power to the Raspberry Pi totally.

  • @NiclasAarestrup
    @NiclasAarestrup 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another great video. Best way to spend some of this lockdown time!
    I have actually just ordered this case for my Pi 4, even though it's not perfect it will help me solve an issue with cable management.
    I have my Pi 4 connected to our living room TV, placed on a shelf beneath the TV where you would usually have your Blu-Ray player or Sky box these days, and I use it as a (retro) gaming computer, hooked up with a couple of Xbox controllers. Works like a charm now, but cables do make it look a slight mess.
    Anyway keep up the good work and stay safe!

  • @semuhphor
    @semuhphor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh dear, Christopher. I was most distressed that while you did note the relative noisiness of the Pimoroni v. the Argon one v. a jumbo jet, you did not note the actual dB readouts of the items you listed in your testing. Otherwise, this was a jolly good episode. I always enjoy your videos. Cheers.

    • @RoshiGaming
      @RoshiGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      dB levels would certainly be a good factor to look at in the various cooling solutions.
      In my case, I've got single-sided deafness, so I'd just put the Pi on the deaf side and voilà - a much quieter Pi experience! :) But not everyone has that "luxury"... (heavy sarcasm quotes)

  • @CCoburn3
    @CCoburn3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These things are hard to get in the US. I ordered one on Amazon, and they sent me the case for the Raspberry Pi 3. When I complained, they said they were out Pi 4 cases and figured that a Pi 3 case was an adequate substitute. Hopefully, they will have more in stock next time I get a Pi 4. Great video.

  • @jonathanwarner1844
    @jonathanwarner1844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I find the inclusion of neodymium magnets everywhere used as something as trivial as fastenings, quite worrying. It's a rare element and is much better reserved for the manufacture of higher value added products like electric motors, than being wasted on trivial uses like handbag clasps, or to hold a plate on an enclosure for cosmetic reasons.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I can only agree strongly with your assessment. Very true.

    • @stuartwhittaker1105
      @stuartwhittaker1105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ExplainingComputers was that a magnet related joke "agree strongly" 🤔😜

    • @pesomistic7656
      @pesomistic7656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you need a chill pill Jo-nathan
      this is earth other materials will come along in time as tech evolves
      from one internet friend to another Go get a release ure killing the buzz of the party

    • @g-r-a-e-m-e-
      @g-r-a-e-m-e- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Peso Mistic: I didn't feel he was a party pooper, but he made a valid point. Party on!

    • @lohphat
      @lohphat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The good news is that they trivial to recover in the waste management stream.

  • @srtcsb
    @srtcsb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really like to see nice, robust cases for the RPi, and this is one of them (nice price too) . A software pwr switch vs none at all, hmm... It nice to have options. 😉 Thanks for another great video Chris.

  • @TEchWIse2203
    @TEchWIse2203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Chris when will you do your best desk tour as I really enjoyed your original one

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      On 10th May is it the 300th EC video, and I am doing a "Behind the Scenes" episode for it. :)

    • @TEchWIse2203
      @TEchWIse2203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok cool

    • @TEchWIse2203
      @TEchWIse2203 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw this video on how to install a Linux version of widows xp and windows 98 and 95 on a raspberry pi 4b
      Link to the video:-th-cam.com/video/WFtQFNq7TRo/w-d-xo.html

  • @MichelMorinMontreal
    @MichelMorinMontreal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greetings! Indeed, this RPi4 case is aesthetically superb, but having to install "blind" scripts in order to fine-tune its operation makes me, like you, very uncomfortable... Personally, I have an happy weakness for the "Magnetic plastic case with dual fan" from Joy-IT. Super nice, super simple, great look, double ventilation and no software intrusion! Almost complete happiness...Thank you for the excellent presentation (as usual!).

  • @Appalling68
    @Appalling68 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:55 Your narration as you try to fit the "tight fitting" board into the case reminded me a little bit of a Monty Python skit ("get in there you little swine...oh there we are). LOL! Nice video, interesting product (I just may go for this) and GREAT content as usual. Thank you,

  • @rajdeepbhattacharrya1752
    @rajdeepbhattacharrya1752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Passive cooling for the RAM is something many other similar cases don't consider. I love it :)

  • @TheMax0005
    @TheMax0005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "There we are"

  • @amnesie6615
    @amnesie6615 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is the BEST case ever. Three reasons: GPIO access perfectly solved, cooling, outputs / connectivity on the back!

  • @Waifu4Life
    @Waifu4Life 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, you're gained over 100k subscribers since you've made your 500k video in September, that's like 15k subscribers per month, impressive.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Things do indeed continue to go well for the channel. :)

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for always doing a great job of presenting and explaining. Absolutely one of the 2 or 3 best channels on youtube. Makes it all worthwhile. The commenters for this vid make a valid point about why not go with full-sized hdmi out ports. Looks like a great case, though. Solid, good with thermals, and best of all, looks like a Cybertruck.

  • @StephenC050
    @StephenC050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I actually like the look of this, also would not bother with the additional software. Now I just need a Pi 4 so I can get this case.

  • @andrestc34
    @andrestc34 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a good quality review, all questions answered! Thanks a lot!

  • @Destide
    @Destide 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    overclock pi to 2.6ghz on 9v stick tin cup on the case with water. Add tea bag to cup. It now makes tea.
    Also the wires are the backthe LED is the front I think

  • @John.0z
    @John.0z 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like having all the connectors on one side, and I agree about the power button location and function.

  • @mrosebro
    @mrosebro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    5:11 "it's a very tight fit there" i literally said "that's what she said" out loud and found myself hilarious.... i'll show myself out :)

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Don't forget your coat . . .

    • @GalahadFranco
      @GalahadFranco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mrosebro lol same here

    • @josephking6515
      @josephking6515 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ExplainingComputers Maybe you should have borrowed it to put on the bench so the top of the nice new case didn't get all scratched up. 🤦‍♂️

    • @mrosebro
      @mrosebro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ExplainingComputers keep up the great work Chris, i do love your videos. =)

    • @erple2
      @erple2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was too tight a fit in the case I got. I felt like I was about to break the Ethernet adapter. I wound up filing the space for the ethernet adapter down with a small file a little bit. Then it fit fine.

  • @orangehatmusic225
    @orangehatmusic225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for going so in depth on many SBC's. Keep up the great work!

  • @alanredversangel
    @alanredversangel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I should probably watch your videos first before clicking like.

    • @alanredversangel
      @alanredversangel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      P.s. shame they didn't put regular hdmi on the front.

  • @alexlandherr
    @alexlandherr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought one on 2020-06-29, will greatly improve my cooling instead of leaving the window slightly open and letting incoming air cool it.

  • @grimmdanny
    @grimmdanny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Figures that when I buy a different case last night, this one gets a reviewed and now I want it.

  • @wolfhond8635
    @wolfhond8635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great Case. I have it myself. The Powerbutton fully works without Script. The Script does only the Fan management. btw. love the show

    • @wolfhond8635
      @wolfhond8635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm running ma2play-home audio software without the Script. Just double checked it. 3sec. press does the shutdown-sequence. 5sec. press is hard power down.

  • @Tetio
    @Tetio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yup this is a nice case, they also have a new version which is just passive with no fan called "Argon NEO". Using both atm

    • @Drumada
      @Drumada 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the Neo a lot but since it doesnt have the extra board to move the video connectors to the back, I think the One still wins in the aesthetic department

  • @atallen6991
    @atallen6991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hallo! Ich schreibe in deutsch, weil mein englisch eher schlecht ist... Sorry..!
    Pro:
    - Alle Anschlüsse sind hinten. Genial. Die Kabel verteilen sich nicht über den ganzen Tisch...!
    - Die Power LEDs sind vorne sichtbar.
    - Schickes Layout /Hochwertige Verarbeitung
    - Gehäuse ist gleichzeitig auch der Kühlkörber. 2 ALU Stempel drücken direkt auf CPU und GPU
    - Temperaturgesteuerter Lüfter
    - Power Button mit diversen Funktionen (reboot - on/off - Hardoff)
    - Gummifüße gegen rutschen. Die Kabel können den Pi nicht verschieben
    - Im inneren hatte ich noch platz für einene 5V-12V umwandler und einen FS1000a Funkmodul. Für die eine externe Antenne hatte ich hinten noch Platz um ein Antennenausgangsloch zu bohren.
    - SD Karte kann man vorne bequem entnehmen.
    - Lüftungsschlitze
    - Vorbereitet für IR
    - Anschluss von GPIOs unter dem Magnetdeckel
    - Software zum Einstellen der Lüftereigenschaften
    Kontra:
    - Powerbutton hinten. Vorne währe er doch viel sinnvoller
    - IR ist zwar vorbereitet aber nicht verbaut. Keine Info darüber im Handbuch.
    - GPIO Anschlüsse nur nutzbar wenn der Deckel weg bleibt. Da hätten abgewinkelte GPIOs Sinn gemacht. Dann hätte man Kabel nach hinten ableiten, und den Deckel schließen können
    - Lauter Lüfter ( Lüftersteuerung bringt nicht viel, weil die Lautstärke nur von Laut nach sehr Laut wechselt...)
    - passive Kühlleistung hätte man mit einer groberen Oberfläche (Kühlkörper) noch weiter verbessern können. Gehäuse wird oben sehr warm. Diese Hitze hätte man noch weiter senken können.
    - große HDMI Anschlüsse wären toll gewesen. Einer hätte mir auch gereicht.
    - Die GPIO Pins hätten innen länger sein müssen. Dann könnte man da auch direkt etwas aufstecken. Platz ist genug da. So musste ich mein Funkmodul auflöten...
    - Zusätzlicher interner USB Port für Funkmaus wäre ein Traum... ;-)

  • @lord-jarc
    @lord-jarc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can hear this guy talking all day :v, nice review of that case.....

  • @rutkowskir
    @rutkowskir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just ordered my Raspberry Pi 4 8GB model! Can't wait to begin experimenting!!

  • @Deses
    @Deses 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Jesus, that fan is atrocious. Why they always include the cheapest, crappiest and loudest fan?

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Profit margins.

    • @berndrosgen1713
      @berndrosgen1713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Indeed, is there any fan in the same size that is silent?

    • @david78212
      @david78212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You aren’t going to hit the “highest” fan setting that much... unless you’re doing something (with a PI?) that hits 100% CPU for long periods of time, you won’t hear it.

    • @dannyconnell8827
      @dannyconnell8827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have 3 of these for the pi 3 and 4. Use them for various purposes and rarely hear the fan ever. Honestly the 2.5 external HDD is usually louder in daily use. Runs cool even on the over clocked pi.

    • @corwinwhitehorn7759
      @corwinwhitehorn7759 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@berndrosgen1713 I guess there is a Noctua that you could use... like the NF-A4x10 (I guess it's a 40mm fan inside that case)

  • @MrWobble666
    @MrWobble666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the look of that case. Putting all the connectors on one edge is a definite plus. As for the power button, you're right about that - It should have been in the front. Most us who are interested in playing with Pi's are creative and capable enough to find the space, and drill and mount a second power switch in the front of the case. And other comments have pointed out the trick of adding a full size HDMI port. Hopefully Argon shall realise their mistakes, and fix both the power switch and HDMI flaws with a second revision of the case.

  • @RedSoul001
    @RedSoul001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Whats the point of uninstalling the script. Half of the functionality of the case is lost without it. Just download the script and read it without installing it if you're so paranoid about it. The button still functions as a hardware on off if you just hold it but then you lose the safe shutdown/restart procedure. Absolutely ridiculous that you'd want to avoid something that helps you shut down when you dont have a GUI option for shutdown or immediate way to open terminal to run a command.....

  • @jonglass
    @jonglass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I prefer the behavior of the power switch, with the less brutal "kill all". Also, I have found the fan to be useful. More than once I've seen temp spikes, and the fan has kicked in, and brought the temps back down. I'm not sure why the aversion to the Argon-supplied scripts.

  • @AndrewTSq
    @AndrewTSq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If they only had made the hdmi-extender go to 2xfullsize hdmi it would have been an instant buy!.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So true!

    • @erple2
      @erple2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      While I did find a pair of mini-HDMI to full-size HDMI adapters (two in a package for < $16) it would have been nice had it come with them. Then again, this case (plus power supply, mini-HDMI adapters and SD card) was on my wishlist for Christmas, so that worked out well.

  • @paulmilligan3007
    @paulmilligan3007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Based on your excellent review, I purchased this case. For me, a fully enclosed case is good for a Pi being run as a day to day computer (I run an untidy desk so no fear of dropping screws onto an open board). I find the software power very useful as I can power down without having to plug in a keyboard or mouse. The one concern I has was whether the metal case would impact on WiFi performance but mine still shows a strong signal.
    Each Pi user has their own preferences. I much prefer using a micro-HDMI adaptor as it eliminates problems with heavy leads disturbing the Pi. Also I had a ready supply of cables as these are used by several windows tablets. I don’t understand the cost gripe as Amazon do 2 adaptors for £7.99!
    It is easy to download the shell script to review, just use wget. It looks like it should be possible to use the case with any Raspbian derivative. I will try with LibreELEC later.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad this worked out for you -- I don't think there's a better desk case for a Pi.

  • @Bularistan4o
    @Bularistan4o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The case is so "custom" that Im surprised and a little disappointed that the extension of the HDMIs is not to a full size HDMI :\
    P.S. They even have the place for them.
    P.S. .. or as some other comment - one HDMI, one Barrel Jack

  • @nosuchthing8
    @nosuchthing8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need a law, this host needs to present all new technical videos on you tube. Great voice for this.

  • @MetatronsCube23
    @MetatronsCube23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I hope they do a revision 2 with at least one full size HDMI

  • @Gnomojo69
    @Gnomojo69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I particularly enjoyed the jumbo jet comparison.

  • @ElmerFuddGun
    @ElmerFuddGun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The case colour isn't too _modern._ Reminds me of my old *TRS-80.* ;-P

  • @jayrowe6473
    @jayrowe6473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got an Argon One and I absolutely love it! I wish they had a case that would put the one USB port on the top so I could use it for my Flirc Remote sensor. If they had that, it would be the perfect Kodi Case!

  • @williambaldwin9346
    @williambaldwin9346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Chris, could you do a series teaching Aduacity?
    That would be great :)

  • @NewAgeDIY
    @NewAgeDIY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like this setup. Due to fact, once it’s configured it’s not that hard for a new user to use it.
    I have provided family members and friends that couldn’t afford a intel or Ryzen computer with a Raspberry Pi computer.
    This appears to fix the startup and shutdown problems most new users have.
    Thanks Chris

  • @tubegor
    @tubegor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The little swine resists. but with Chris there is absolutely no chance. Sunday without "EC" is like tea without water.

  • @mtbevins
    @mtbevins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. I wish you would have run the temp test with the fan on 100% that would have been a good comparison to the ice tower.

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I would like to see a case with the ability for a functioning hard drive or SSD!

    • @Brian_Of_Melbourne
      @Brian_Of_Melbourne 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed it would, but the arrangements for doing it with the USB3 cable having to plug in from outside the case are difficult to do in a way the makes everyone happy. There are just too many possible variations.

    • @somedaysoon33
      @somedaysoon33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Brian_Of_Melbourne Then get a better board like a Rockpro64 with the NAS case and SATA adapter.

    • @somedaysoon33
      @somedaysoon33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rockpro64 + NAS case + SATA adapter.

    • @david78212
      @david78212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      GeekWorm has one, I have one for the 3+... use it as a media scrapper... it’s “neater” than an external drive option. (They do have an option for the PI 4)

    • @jyvben1520
      @jyvben1520 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@david78212 did you mean media scraper, if not what is a media scrapper, chops your media files in unusable bytes ?

  • @augurseer
    @augurseer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been wondering about this case. Thanks for the review Chris!!!!!

  • @send2gl
    @send2gl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At around 10:40 you mentioned a preference for checking the script yourself rather than auto install. My programming skills are not good but I normally wget the script file, check it best I can then install locally.

  • @xTriixrx
    @xTriixrx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have this case and I see a lot of comments regarding converting the mini hdmi to a standard hdmi port. As much as I love this case, the biggest downside IMO is the lack of support of other OS's for the Argon scripts. These scripts work only on Raspbian, as is a dependent library for the GPIO ports that only exist in Raspbian. I wanted to use this case with Lubuntu and after a failed number off attempts to port the rasp-gpio dependency to Lubuntu I just switched to Raspbian. I believe that if you can afford the 4GB model and this case, a single mini hdmi cable should not break the bank for those who are interested in this case. I also very much enjoy the design of the case overall as I think it looks pretty sleek on my desk with my other machines and cluster.

  • @lucasi8455
    @lucasi8455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for another great video to entertain and teach us :) ! Always nice!
    Would be awesome if you could give us some lessons about how to run x86 softwares on arm CPUs like Raspberry Pi(s) and others, since Exagear is no longer available. (Thanking you in advance)

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great idea, hard to achieve. One option is using DOS box for DOS and very early Windows software -- see my video here: th-cam.com/video/idHQk99E4VA/w-d-xo.html

    • @lucasi8455
      @lucasi8455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ExplainingComputers DOS box is a very useful tool, indeed :)

    • @ruxcooking
      @ruxcooking 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love some content on something like qemu wine . Keep up the great work!

  • @horseradishpower9947
    @horseradishpower9947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah... this is something I have debated getting...
    Thanks for reviewing this!

  • @RobMoerland
    @RobMoerland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm pretty sure it makes tea.

    • @blackcountryme
      @blackcountryme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Na, it does toast with lime marmalade...

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ahh . . .

    • @bfapple
      @bfapple 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      blackcountryme Lime marmalade is something I can get behind.

    • @jamescameron149
      @jamescameron149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bfapple /me wonders off to buy some lime marmalade. Love that stuff. Haven't had it in years...

  • @watsoft70
    @watsoft70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Christopher, but I thought you might have rerun the tests with the fan "ON", given your results appeared to be achieved only using passive cooling. Then we would have a better idea on how it compared to other active cooling solutions you had previously tested.

  • @JonathanWalsh
    @JonathanWalsh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You could have just downloaded the script without running it if you hadn't piped your curl command into bash

  • @Forbidden303
    @Forbidden303 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not as loud as a Jumbo jet. This is the technical explanations i subscribed for. Thanks!

  • @RetiredMegatron
    @RetiredMegatron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    LOL did you just call the Case a little swine? fantastic!

  • @luneburgerkronenbrauerei3821
    @luneburgerkronenbrauerei3821 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've recently purchased the Argon M.2 case which offers two regular sized HDMI ports and space for an M.2 SSD with a USB jumper for connecting one of the Raspi's USB 3 ports to the SSD. It's the perfect case for the Raspi and I can highly recommend it.