Multiple third tones | Topics in Chinese Linguistics | CZH308

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  • @avab4035
    @avab4035 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Love this format, at this level, talking mostly in Chinese, with short explanations in English us the way to go🎯

  • @elprofedechino
    @elprofedechino 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    El mejor profesor de fonética (de los +/- 150 profesores de chino que he conocido en 30 años). Solo que yo cambiaría ese “LLH” por “LlH” (☑️) porque el semitercer tono empieza bajo, pero baja aún un poco más antes de subir (☑️ ) yo al semi tercer tono lo enseño como “sexto” tono. 👌

  • @davidlericain
    @davidlericain 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You always somehow make videos that answer questions I've had about Mandarin. Thanks for putting this one to rest.

  • @musical.theory
    @musical.theory 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Chinese linguistics? Im loving it here!

  • @drogazmiany4132
    @drogazmiany4132 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    我一直在等待这样的视频. 非常感谢

  • @cmaven4762
    @cmaven4762 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just came here to add this comment: Zero --> Hero is one of my FAVORITE channels on YT ... it combines two of my fave things, Chinese language instruction and Linguistics....

  • @ivanbolshakov9435
    @ivanbolshakov9435 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    非常非常感谢!I have been looking for this topic almost since I started learning Chinese, but couldn't find enough explanations. You are the best!

  • @HelmerAslaksen
    @HelmerAslaksen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was super useful! I've watched several videos that tried to explain this, but this is the first time I've actually understood it!. Thanks!!!

  • @bunbun748
    @bunbun748 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was super helpful thanx❤❤

  • @Ginny2708
    @Ginny2708 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    謝謝,老師。

  • @solarflarecj1067
    @solarflarecj1067 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    谢谢你这个视频可好啦!

  • @doingmybest9040
    @doingmybest9040 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!!

  • @xuexizhongwen
    @xuexizhongwen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was about to comment that the year 1999 is usually pronounced with only the middle 9 in second tone, but then you addressed that later.
    This is just from my own observation, so I could be wrong, but for the example sentence at 11:47, I think sometimes people will pronounce 給 and 米 both in third tone, with a slight pause in between. I think in long sentences (or perhaps when you need a second to think of the next word you are going to say or for whatever reason), in these situations there could be two third tones in a row (well, not really in a row, since there's a slight pause). Also, if the pause if very short, the second third tone might be slightly lower in pitch than the first one. Not sure if that's right or not. Does that make any sense to you? I'm going to listen out for it to see if I hear it that way.
    Another interesting thing about that example is that if you say 買兩個 instead of 買兩把, the 兩 retains its tone, and thus 買 becomes second tone. So you need to know the entire next semantic unit (and not just the next character) in advance before saying the 買 out loud. Also, if you say 請你給我 it would be parsed as 請你 - 給我, and thus would be 2323, but because 米老鼠 is a name (even though it can be parsed into two semantic units), 請你給 is put together. So in order to parse correctly, you need to know that information. So you actually need to understand the meaning of the entire sentence in order to pronounce it correctly. Of course, over time this becomes second nature, and you don't even need to think about consciously. But I would have benefited from seeing this video a few years ago, before I figured it out on my own intuitively and by listening.

  • @magdolnavida2717
    @magdolnavida2717 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I kind of felt that way,too...but Thank You for your hard work to share with us! Really appreciate it ❤😊 I enjoy your videos a lot, have learnt from you and your videos a lot and everybody wonders how I know that much in such a short time learning Chinese... 😊( how come you always have that beautiful weather and scenery out there behind you? Isnt it autumn there? So warm?😉)
    P.s. Do you still have wechat group - because I haven't found it 😔

  • @WinkelmanSM-3
    @WinkelmanSM-3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awsome video

  • @lifeisclimbing
    @lifeisclimbing 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content. I'd love it if you tackled the pair /a/ and /e/. I've studied for several years and still confuse shang 线上 and sheng 先生. It's pretty frustrating

  • @WinkelmanSM-3
    @WinkelmanSM-3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6:19 its a little confusing you put the numbers 223 but the accents on the syllables are 323, you shouldve kept the accents 333 or made them 223

  • @sergenewter4841
    @sergenewter4841 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please make a video on consecutive neutral tones and how they are pronounced. There's a good discussion of it at "How are consecutive neutral tones pronounced?" - you could use it for that video.

  • @a.disaster2324
    @a.disaster2324 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very helpful, thank you so much! 小狗= 23?

  • @gonzapacini5668
    @gonzapacini5668 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🔥🔥

  • @jamescook2412
    @jamescook2412 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    超 vs 招, 朝 vs 着, 吵 vs 找, 差 vs 炸, 西 vs 诗, 习 vs 食, 喜 vs 始, 系 vs 事, 宗 vs 聪, 仄 vs 厕, 字 vs 次, 再 vs 菜.

  • @enricobrasil
    @enricobrasil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I was studying Chinese in China my teacher taught that reduplicated adjectives were read as 3 5 1 1. So 勉勉强强 mian3mian5 qiang1qiang1. Why?

  • @svc6550
    @svc6550 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve asked different teachers this and they couldn’t answer, Ty!!!
    For 雅爾塔 can’t we keep the first 3rd tone since the second syllable is 2nd tone?

    • @ignitemoment
      @ignitemoment 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm not a teacher, but as a native speaker, my answer is yes, you can keep the first 3rd tone, because some people pronounce it like that. However, if you put the word in a long sentence and speak fast, you will find it easier and more natural to pronounce it in the 2nd tone.

    • @svc6550
      @svc6550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ignitemoment thank you!

    • @ignitemoment
      @ignitemoment 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@svc6550 You're welcome! Feel free to ask me any other questions about Chinese!

  • @Matthew-vu7su
    @Matthew-vu7su 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    米老鼠怎么会有条码头发?

  • @mmoiseevaaa
    @mmoiseevaaa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    我去!这是在网上最有用的视频!对我来说在口语里面这是最难的地方 😭😭😭我讨厌3声的变化。每次说出来之前都想想:我应该怎么说呢?所以我说得不太流利,烦死了!

  • @jamescook2412
    @jamescook2412 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me 吃, 只, 七 is all "chī" 迟, 直, 旗 is all "chí" 尺, 只, 起 is all "chǐ" 叱, 治, 器 is all "chì" For me 出, 楮, 区 is all "chū" 除, 烛, 渠 is all "chú" 楚, 主, 取 is all "chǔ" 处, 祝, 去 is all "chù"
    Zhi-nese = Qi-nese = Chi-nese

  • @user-hp5bc5cy2l
    @user-hp5bc5cy2l 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Regarding tone shifts: there really is no all-encompassing comprehensive one-video-covers-it-all video on youtube about that.
    Regarding monetization: just about no one teaching Chinese has in-video sponsorships. I've seen iTalki sponsor videos a few years ago Skritter also sometims sponsors videos. I do think because of all the competition sponsorships and ads can get revenue. I plan to make no videos, hope it helps. 加油!

    • @xuexizhongwen
      @xuexizhongwen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why are you suddenly bringing up monetization? Just curious.

    • @user-hp5bc5cy2l
      @user-hp5bc5cy2l 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xuexizhongwen this is their Job they do this to earn money for their Family.
      I have neither family nor money, so I try to figure out ways they can monetize from freeloaders like me, e.g. by attracting your comments that drives the algorithm, which loves engagement. Thanks for asking! Any other qs?

  • @user-hp5bc5cy2l
    @user-hp5bc5cy2l 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    333 --》223

  • @zulkiflijamil4033
    @zulkiflijamil4033 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    米老鼠 ( mickey mouse) mi3 lăo3 shu3

  • @user-hp5bc5cy2l
    @user-hp5bc5cy2l 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3333 2323