Probably The Best Whisky Investments of 2022
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- If you are looking for some bottles to invest in for 2022 what should you buy? These are my top 3 bottles - and I have personally bought all of these for my collection. While these might not be the rollercoaster of the Folio series of Springbanks, they are hugely undervalued in my opinion on the primary and secondary market.
These are my opinions only and as with all 'investments' the value can go up as well as down.
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0:00 Start
0:18 Introduction
0:50 The three ways to invest in whisky
2:09 £400 Investment Bottle
4:52 £500 Investment Bottle
6:40 £1100 Investment Bottle
8:46 Conclusion
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MISTAKE CORRECTION: 4:14 - I say Springbank, then Macallan, then Springbank. Fail. I meant to say Springbank, and then Macallan. Both the Springbank 25 2021 (see here www.scotchwhiskyauctions.com/auctions/176-the-132nd-auction/564141-springbank-25-year-old-2021-release/) and the Macallan 25 2021 (see here www.thegrandwhiskyauction.com/lot-371794/macallan-25-year-old-sherry-oak-2021/auction-41) are hugely over the price of the Glenfarclas!
New subscriber and no nothing about whisky. Absolutely love love your videos & I have learnt so much. Gosh Bless to you from Oz down under
Thanks for sharing your perception. this is helpful
Thanks for the video Mark! What's the difference between the warehouse edition and the regular single malt edition, besides the packaging?
The difference is Springbank is on another level in unique production, small batches, high quality control, non chill filtered, natural colour and completely different league to glenfarclas. Whisky nuts are going for what's actually in tge bottle as opposed to brand and boxes... A shift has started. The industry is going to change a lot in the coming years...
Hmmmm, Glenfarclas are also unique production (family owned like Springbank and run NOWHERE near capcity like Springbank), non chill filtered, natural colour etc.
They are very similar on so many levels.
Look at Whisky Fun - www.whiskyfun.com/Glenfarclas.html - there are some incredibly well reviewed bottles there.
Indeed - Serge ranked Springbank and Glenfarclas both as 'Premier Cru' back in 2013 - www.whiskyfun.com/indexation.html
GF and SB are both very similar distilleries IMO...
@@MarkLittler The distilleries may be similar... but the distillet is not.
@@100puremustard5 Agreed
Great video as usual, managed to buy the 30 & 40 for under £1450 so I’m pleased at that. In it for the long term unless a lotto win allows me to crack them open.
@@James-ro8yb how. Best I can see is 1600
Thanks Mark for that vid. You were a aolutelly right about 25YO Decanter which make me so happy today.
I hope 42YO Decanter make same way.
I really like your videos. Amazing job every time. It's really exciting all the time. I also always look forward to the new videos and the interesting assessments. But how likely is it that everything will be over at some point and prices will collapse? Or does that only happen with overpriced NAS?
Hi Mark - that's great - thank you - that's made my day!
Abosultely - it can all come crashing down! That's why I prefer with other attributes other than JUST a fancy box etc. The Folio for instnace have great packaging etc but if the market changes then there is nothing really left to prop up prices. These bottles in this video are mega age statements, and when you look at reviews on Whisky Fun etc they all have awesome whisky too.
Broadly speaking I don't think the ENTIRE market will collapse - just these sectors that are over hyped at the moment.
@@MarkLittler totally agree. Thanks a lot for your answer. And keep it up! Exciting to see more stuff ☺️
Hi Mark thanks for this nice video! i just found a Glenfarclas 40 warehouse editon local for CHF 820 (around 700 GBP at the moment all in with shipping and im really happy with it:) will keep it as you said for some year and will look forward whats happening. maybe one day i will appreciate it and drink this fantastic liquid will see. I agree and also think that they are a good investment today 😁 greetings from switzerland
@@rupert1346 hi not available anymore sorry
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Unfortunately, the 25Y is sold out. For me it is also the nicest one actually for presentation/price
@@johanjansen6417 Available at The Real Drinks Company
Ho mark thabks for this video, im looking in to investing in whiskey and your videos are very informative! How can i keep track of the value of a certain bottle like the 30yo GF for example?
Keep up the good work Mark. Independence and impartiality are key to sustaining a presence in a busy market place. I even bought a 40 yr old Tullibardine from your online shop last summer, and I strongly suspect that its percentage increase in value will exceed most hi-risk equity ISA's over the next x5 yrs!! Happy New Year!
was that the 1968 40yr old?
@@MarkHanson-du3qs Oh yes!
@@michaelgallagher8678 I have that bottle as well. found it as a dusty a year ago.
@@MarkHanson-du3qs Excellent!
You’ve made me laugh Mark. Myself and my whisky buddy came to the same conclusions you’ve made here. We’ve killed the 30 and 40 on a number of occasions so have arguably increased the rarity value commensurately. I think visiting the Distillery made me overcome any doubts as to the pricing differences. You don’t really get to taste 30 + 40 year old whisky as a walk in. As for what else I’m looking at, everything feels very bubble like. Saying that I’ve been dipping into sensibly priced English Whisky. Thanks for the video.
Hahaha, amazing. It still baffles me how a distillery can have a 'core range' 30YO and 40YO - they have such a depth of stock it is amazing! I agree with the bubble too - look at the myriad of NAS releases lately - it is arguably the greater fool theory...most buyers are ONLY buying becasue of the value jumps.
Glad you liked the video too :)
@@MarkLittler The ripple effect has yet to really transfer to physical assets from equity markets. Patience will be rewarded in the coming years. However humans tend to lack it (the need for excitement/low boredom threshold I assume). Magpies! Until then I’ll be sitting on my hands most likely and watching … all that cheap NAS too hahaha … once again, enjoy your stuff
Brand brand brand, it’s like real estate location location location. I couldn’t agree more that they are more than likely fantastic whisky’s but we don’t live in a world where people actually care about the quality of a product. All that matters to people that are buying these sort of bottles is bragging rights ONLY!
I totally agree with this - and for the life of me can't fathom why the Glenfarclas brand is not stronger. The best comparison is Springbank - also family owned, priced at 'drinking prices', focus on quality rather than volume etc. All that needs to change is the perception from the market...as such I feel that Glenfarclas is prime for a 'hype' moment. Like I say in the video I dont think this will be overnight, but maybe in the next 3-5 years.
I bought a 25 year old Glenfarclas about 25 years ago in a beautiful wooden “coffin” for about $150. The bottle looks like one of the warehouse collection bottles. I can’t find it in Whiskybase and I don’t think it has increased in value at all in 25 years. Glenfarclas may be the best value for drinking aged whiskey but unless it sports a distillation year on it, it’s value will only increase negligibly. Glenfarclas can’t be compared at all to Springbank. Comparing Springbank to Glenfarclas is like comparing a fine Krug Champagne to a good Spanish red. They are in a different class and that’s why they are valued differently (and will always be). I wish it weren’t true but it is.
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Nice video, thank you for that.
Unfortunately, you can’t already buy 25 YO decanter in retail, I found only one in US for 1500$
Now thinking on buying Glenfarclas 40 YO warehouse or Family Cask collection 1977 - 2019. Which you would think a better choice to keep?
Great video
I have a question? I have bottle of GlenDronach 1990 number 27 of 402. Do you think is worth to keep it as a investment? Thank you
Great video Mark I would also like to hear your thoughts on bottles for sale under £100 thanks
Hi Paul,
Sub £100 I would say just stick to core Macallan 12 Sherry Oak, Dalmore 15 etc.
They will never do much as an investment but will still be cracking whisky.
So now of course looking for GF 25y decanter, and No luck what so ever. Not Even the auctions that I search. Maybe a bumit help here 🥴? Love your stuff and enjoy hours imof your content. Keep up the good work.
What do you say about latest released tamdhu 18 year cask strength ? Will the secondary price ever reach £500? you are such a helpful person giving so much knowledge. Thank you.
It's a lovely bottle and nice whisky. I can't ever claim to know what will happen to the market. If you like it - buy it and hold it - and be in it for the long run - 5-10 years.
Have just bought the Glenfarclas 40 yr old series VI NV 1976 (The one with the the George S. Grand on the package). Is this a better investment than a regular 40 years old? I have a possibility to the Master Distiller from Glenfarclas to sign it in 2 months time.. i afraid i will make i less valuable? What Do you think Mark?
Really liked this vid. Are the Springbank 25 and 30 YR old not limited supply runs? I believe the 30 may be 1400 bottles. Not sure what sort of size of release the GF 30 is but would imagine many times that figure? hence the much lower price if you were to auction compared to Springbank.
Hey - glad you liked the vid 😀 Sure - I think you just have to look outiside the box a little. ALL releases are limited - it's just whether the distillery chooses to declare this as a marketing ploy. As such the GF will be limited in numbers - it's just that we don't know to what extent (i.e. they only bottle a certain number of bottles each year).
The most important thing to bear in mind with all of this is that it's got very little to do with the whisky or how limited it is - but more how it is perceived by the collectors.
Springbank is a great example. The 2018 25 Year Old was released c. £300.
2018 Average Price: £336
2019 Average Price: £388
2020 Average Price: £347
2021 Average Price: £560
2022 Average Price: £840
Most recent auction price: £1,650 ( www.wvawhiskyauctions.co.uk/lot-450721/springbank-25-year-old-2018-release )
Same with the 2020 25 YO Springbank
2020 Average Price: £392
2021 Average Price: £537
2022 Average Price: £1568
Msot recent auction price: £1,400 www.scotchwhiskyauctions.com/auctions/177-the-133rd-auction/570909-springbank-25-year-old-2020-release/
You'll note with both that the demand has only JUST come.
It's not like the collectors always loved this whisky - you can clearly see their perception change in the market. And this is what I feel will happen with the GF bottles. My call about the GF today is similar to me making the call on the SB2018 25 in 2019. This won't be a quick change - but it will come 😉
Great advice. I think you’re right on these. 6 months later do you have any for 2023 in the same price points? Or are these GF still the best option?
Keep your eyes in the channel 😜 2023 reccomendations coming out soon.
@@MarkLittler oh I will be waiting!
Is the 25 year old Whisky in the decanter the same Whisky that's in the standard bottles?
Interesting analysis. I agree that GF shares similar qualities to that of Springbank and for some wired reason I cannot understand, that most of their release are way cheaper for their ages compare to even non-collectible distilleries. So hands down they are underappreciated. However, one of the key aspects we need to look at is collectibility and distinguishability (e.g. release year, Batch numbers, released in series..etc). I think that is the primary reason why Macallan 25 and 30yr are now released with a release date after 2017 release. I am not saying that this is the only virtue of "collectible whisky" but it does definitely help. Do these GF 25, 30, 40 carries any release date? If they release them in the same packaging without any cues to distinguish batch to batch, I wonder if they will ever be collectible in the future...
Just checked from WhiskyBase that they do carry bottle code. But I always wondered if collectors do not really count bottles as "release date" as it is not directly on the label. for example, Macallan 18 gains 50~100 GBP per year in release date but Springbank 18 doesn't as it is not directly written on the label. I wonder what your thought one this. will our perception change in the future?
Hey - I hope you are well and thanks for your thoughts. Factors such as limited edition numbers, release years etc are perceived to be important - hence why almost every releases from the new/younger distilleries carry all sorts of nonsense on the labels to attract a certain demographic.
You're exactly right too - The 30 and 40 do not carry edition numbers or release years - they are core range bottles. That said, I find it hard to conceive that GF will continue this packaging line indefinately. Ditto that even though they have a HUGE depth of stock, their current inventory of 25, 30 and 40yo stock will be based on historic and current sales volumes. If collectors get on board and start buying for the sake of buying and not drinking (ahem, Springbank 30YO) then stock will run down. And there is no way to make any more high age statement whisky without a lot of time.
I think in the long term we'll be looking at GF with different eyes. Perhaps there will be a change of direction from the top, maybe the distillery will be sold (in these times almost anything is possible). A few years ago I never would have siad GF would use fancy decanters and design gorgeous packaging for their bottles, but these bottles mark a change of direction already. Look at the difference that Billy Walker has made at Glenallachie or what Aston Martin to to Bowmore whiskies.
So in summary, I agree - these bottles lack a few kep components BUT they also tick a lot of other boxes. Over the long term (I think I say 3-5 years in the video) I feel they will be great buys though.
...good point
@@MarkLittler ...and good point, as well :)) greetings from Slovakia
I think what I a lot of people don't realize is that the older Glenfarclas are one of the cheapest in the market, which makes it one of the most drunk older age statement whiskies out there, meaning less availability, whereas all these other "flipper bottles" are kept to obviously flip for profit, so availability is more common
Wonder whats the quantity for the total release of 30s and 40s
Well put together video and I would not be surprised if we don't see a rebrand of the distillery in the next few years with the core prices going up. At worst buying older whisky is a good hedge against inflation just now and bottles getting sold can only really increase over time.
Hi Dan - thank you - glad you liked the video! I agree too - how can a product that takes, 25, 30 and 40 years to make still sell for so little...Who knows where the market will go, but with the huge investments from the parent companies it seems to be only heading in one direction. Given that GF are family owned there is less pressure to appease share holders etc, but look at Springbank. They price for 'drinkers' but doing so only attracts flippers...I'm not sure why these bottles don't fly out any quicker...
Thanks Mark for great content.
I am looking at a GF 25yo Family Casks bottled from Limited SherryCask Reserve at 48.8 ABV.
Is it worth for investment at 300£ right now?
Thanks
Came across your video for the first time - great contents! Liked and subscribed of course...
Do you think Macallan Harmony Rich Cacao is a good bottle to buy a few of and hold for a while?
Hey - glad you liked the content :)
Sure - the Rich Cacao is hot at the moment, but to me it is just another NAS bottling from Macallan. Sure it will do well, but it's too obvious - everyone is buying it and holding it.
Following on from your top picks video I’ve been on the hunt for more bargain top picks and have my eye on not only a Glenfarclas 30 year old warehouse edition. I have also just seen a Bunnahabhain 1990
30 Year Old Xtra Old Particular limited release by Douglas Laing under £500. What are your thoughts from a collector perspective? Should I pull the trigger and buy?
Hi Geoff, I hope you are well.
No doubt this will be amazing whisky - but from a collectors perspecive people really do prefer distillery bottled products.
I bought the Glenfarclas 30 warehouse edition and now saving up for a Bunnahabhain 30 year old instead of the Douglas Laing bottle. Thanks for the advice.
Get the older wooden box version of the 25 bunna. Seems like they're going up in price
Been collecting Johnnie Walker. Got two bottles of 1990s Blue label. With Brora .Odyssey. King George v .And 2 Paisley wining the 2021 City of Culture .Not for public sale .
74 bottles in total.
Can you see me making good money as these are mostly non aged statement blends .Greetings from Glasgow Scotland. SLANJ
Cheers for this amazing video and opinion! I really love Glenafarclas and i highly believe that the distillery is so bloody underrated! On my last birthday, I bought the Family Casks 1991 winter 2015 (1991 is my birth year) for 400$ and I really love it. What do you think of it as for long term investment? Cheers from Lebanon!
Hey Elie - glad you liked the video and nice to meet you! Yes - the Family Casks will be the subject of another video too - I think they are great bottles.
How's your summer going?
@@MarkLittler nice to you too Mark! Brilliant, i’ll be waiting for the video! I’m seriously thinking to continue investing in the family casks 30+YO and first fill.
It’s going ok till now, too hot! 😅
What about yours?
@@elieaoun6 All good here thanks - a little surprised how this video is going though - much higher viewing than our normal vids - very grateful!
I wonder if the Family casks will ever go through a facelift...
@@MarkLittler I'm glad to hear that! It is so straight to the point, unique and about a brilliant, underrated distillery! For me, as a drinker and collector before starting to invest recently, I love to have good quality bottles that have got a chance of a good investment other than Macallan. I know that if you want to make safe good money buy Macallans and started with the 18 sherry 2020 release and the Harmony rich cacao. But You can buy plenty of stunning bottles for less than a half of its price, and I do believe that many here share my point of view. Hopefully soon the family casks will be appreciated as much as they deserve... Cheers, Mark!
I'd probably invest in a 2020 Macallan 25 sherry, the outrun in 2020 must have surely been at a reduced level. And if you look at auction entries for this particular bottle and also the 18 sherry there has been nowhere near the amount of previous years or indeed 21/22 auction entries.
Probably worth researching.
Ah, but the outrun of 2020 would have been distilled in 1995 or earlier. The marketing and distribution in 2020 would have been easy - to sell.
I just had a look in my database and the sales volumes of the 2020 is comparable to the 2018, 2019 and 2021...
Still, they are great series and we will hopefully have forgotton COVID soon!
@@MarkLittler, sorry, off-topic, wondering if you have inside tips on why there is no 2022 Glendronach 21 YO release so far?
Would be nice to do a follow up in a year to see what they are then.
Exactly :) - and then again at years 3 and 5....
Great video very informative, where best to buy these bottles
Cheers
There should be links as the top comment and in the description too.
Ok Cheers
Mark, thank u for the video. The 30 YO and 40 YO warehouse editions only 2100 bottles? Is this a one-time thing or an annual release?
Hi Ben - glad you liked the video. I wasn't aware that these are limted editions per-se. Like the Macallan 18YO has proven, a bottle need not be stricly limited in order to sell out quick and drive secondary market brawls. GF have HUGE reserves of old casks, but if the flipper brigade cottoned onto these bottles I am sure it would distrupt supply...
@@MarkLittler "flipper brigade " hahaha! So these 30 or 40 yo are annual releases from GF other than red door theme packaging, any other difference from their core range 30&40 yo come in the tube ?? thanks again
GLENFARCLAS SPIRIT OF INDEPENDENCE SERIES , would be worth collecting. They are great .
They are nice bottles - I just wish there was some more cohesion between all the label designs.
I agree, in the grand scheme of whisky pricing, all 3 are for whatever reason massively underpriced. I have several 30s from them, never paid more than 250 euros… Perhaps one day…. who knows! Certainly no mistake in buying any of them. The way things are going, there may soon enough be less and less of such ages released any of us not so wealthy people could ever afford… The 40 is tempting…. I may just go searching! Thanks for the tip….
Hey Anthony - glad you liked the video and glad you have plenty of these on your shelves! Glenfarclas have amazing reserves of stock but who knows what could happen if the 'market' realises what good whisky it is and how unedrvalued it is. I mean that 40YO is less than a third of the recent Distill Your World. Clearly the brands are on different pedestals, but compared objectively the GF is unbelievaby undervalued.
for how many years can you keep these bottles? 20, 30 years?
How much is the Glenfarclas 25 worth now? I saw one on Caskcartel for $1,500
Question I starting to begin my journey in collecting and investing in whiskey. Is Balvenie 17 years peaked cask a good investment ? here in the netherlands it’s priced 300€ and up I can purches it for 250€ are these bot invest. And the balvenie 12 years single malt single barrel (price verries between 75€- 100€ online) are these bottels worth somthing if you hold them for Lets say 5 a 10 years? Ore should I look for price class higher?
Last year I was scoffed at for asking which was the best investment between this Glenfarclas 25 & Macallan 18 Sherry Oak Cask. Wish I hadn't listened and bought the 25 year old. Also I do believe that there is a new release over a 5 year period
This market is very much driven by the greater fool theory. There is nothing wrong with the Macallan 18YO - I collect them - and in the short term they will likely be the better investment. But if you soften your focus and look 3-5 years down the line, IMO these bottles are going to shine.
Sorry Mark you interpreted my message wrong, it should have read "Wish I hadn't listened and should've bought the 25"
@@rocketwhitters I think I need another dram 😂
I really like your videos, they are well informed and well made. I can see for sure how the 25 year old Glenfarclas might be a good investment - great whisky, great bottle and packaging and a limited release. I am not yet totally convinced about the 30 and 40 year olds though. No doubt the whisky is fantastic and the packaging is second to none. But unlike Macallan and Springbank the older bottlings do not seem to have any batch or yearly issue to distinguish them. With the Springbank we all know that trying to buy one of the older ones when they are issued at RRP is virtually impossible and their website states how many are issued worldwide for each older age so they immediately assume a rarity value. The same to some extent with The Macallan although their runs are huge, they still sell out extremely quickly. With Glenfarclas the 30 and 40 year olds are part of their core range and as far as I can see there is no yearly issue or batch to distinguish them. That being the case, why would such bottlings increase in value if they remain available albeit only at specialist retailers, at the RRP?
Hi Martin, I'm glad you like the videos!
Sure - I can see your perspective on this. In the video I state that these are 3-5 year holds.
With regards to your point about them being core range I completly agree. BUT. First of all, how absurd and feasable is a 30 and 40YO core range expression...while they are core range at present we have no idea how long that core range is exptected to last. Look at the Macallan 30 Blue box - that was core range - no date etc on it, but now commands a huge premium.
As such while there is a tendancy at the moment for people to only look at the market in the 'now' I always look with a softer focus at the wider picture. Whose to say that next year there won't be a release year...or a change in ABV (the change in ABV is enough for Local Barley collectors ;) ).
The other side to the 30 and the 40 is their sheer value - Benromach 40YO is £2k, Balvenie 40YO is £5k, Fettercain 40YO £3k, Caol Ila 40YO (Indy bottled by Hunter Laing) £1,500, Bunnahabhain 40YO £1800.
Only the Balvenie in the above stands up in presentation alongside the GF in my opinion too.
And I think my bigger point here is that the WHOLE GF distillery is due a perspective shift. For such a legendary distillery with incredible depths to its inventory it is well under valued in my opinion.
Sorry this post wasn't meant to sound ranty - so sorry if it comes across that way!
@@MarkLittler Great response and I have no problem with it being ranty at all. As someone that has only been collecting for just over a year it is fantastic to be able to draw on the experience of someone like yourself that sees things from a far wider perspective. Thank you.
What other 30-40 years do you think are undervalued? What about Benromach?
You best hit that like and subscribe 😉 The Benromach is incredible and not just in terms of whisky - the presentation is amazing!
Regards the Glenfarclas... a new 35 year of limited release 1st has just come about... do you think it's worth the money?
Its states 35 y/o but no mention of bottling dates for future, obviously it's easy to calculate from today...
Absolutely - I have one already :)
What's difference between Warehouse 40 & Decanter 40 ?
Is it just bottle and packaging difference ?
Or does it have significantly different whisky in it ?
Just the box as far as I can tell. The ABV is also greater in the decanter edition but it does not state that it is from a single cask as far as I am aware.
GF 35y old wear house collection just hit the Danish market at 800£. How does that suit the prices and as a long term investment? Can't seem to find any info regarding this release, bottle count, rpp or release date in UK. From what I can see, these are only pre order. Side note is also that the boxes are made in China, but due to brexit, these might be made in the UK in the future. Maybe this will effect the prices and maybe look, who knows?
how can a made in China package box will affect the value of the made in Scotch whisky?
How often do you come across a Glenfarclas 25 special edition? I’ve only seen 2 at auction since January 2022
Not that often at all. I don't think we'll see to many either as it's not really a flippers bottle.
@@MarkLittler hi Mark thanks for getting back. I never flip and a seriously long term investor and appreciator of fine whisk(E)y…. Had to take a break but hoping to get back in over the coming few months.
@@MarkLittler anymore suggestions for this year currently under the radar?
Hi Mark, just got the Glen Scotia 46 yo. At around €8500. Shall I drink it or keep as investment?
Hey - nice to meet you. The GS46 is a great bottle and amazing whisky. It depends on your pockets, but to me it looks like a good long term hold.
Do you think a family cask of similar age is a worse investment?
Watch this space ;)
I'm a big fan of Glenfarclas, much as I am of Springbank. Despite their geographical distance, both distilleries share much in common, e.g. historical family ownership, a healthy respect for tradition, at least one direct-fired still, floor maltings, etc. Although popular with whisky geeks, until recently I would have argued both distilleries would probably never be the targets of investors and collectors for the simple reason that the presentation of their releases is bland, with dumpy bottles and plain labels. I even once bought and drank a Glenfarclas 40 (at £260). I would now be more wary of making this claim, having witnessed the recent inexplicable clamour for Springbank. However Springbank is a fairly unique distillery within its region, whereas Speyside is full of contenders to the Macallan crown - Glendronach, Mortlach, Aberlour, Glenallachie, etc. Essentially you're predicting that Glenfarclas will be the next break-out whisky but it's a fairly busy field. All that said, Glenfarclas does have a lot going for it and the presentation of the bottles you highlight is light years from a few years ago. I have a couple of the Warehouse 30 stashed away, purchased at £250 each, so I do hope you are correct! Thanks for the video.
Hey Oliver - I completely agree - I think until these bottles GF whisky was not attractive to collectors because of the presentation - very much a case of 'lets just redesign part of the label'. I can't help but think that these new boxes mark somewhat of a departure for GF. I'm not sure who was responsible for it - but it's great.
I also totally agree with you on the Springbank comparison. Both are very much 'anti marketing' but for some reason there has been a distinct spike with SB of late.
You're right though - nothing will change with GF overnight, but perhaps in the next 3-5 years things will change dramatically. Look at Macallan 5 years ago - Folio 1 languishing at £250 at the distillery...
Hi Oliver, hi @Mark Littler greetings from Slovakia. Absolute agree with you - Speyside is full...I wonder what is your opinion about Caperdonich? Distillery is closed, prices for 18, 21, 25yo are still "normal" in my opinion. It is the similar opportunity like the Glenfarclas? I am asking as a collector - I want to have Caperdonich bottle for 200€ and not for 1200€ :) Is it possible that in one year or two I will not buy Caperdonich for "reasonable price"? bye, have a nice days. j
@@MarkLittler Hi Oliver, hi @Mark Littler greetings from Slovakia. Absolute agree with you - Speyside is full...I wonder what is your opinion about Caperdonich? Distillery is closed, prices for 18, 21, 25yo are still "normal" in my opinion. It is the similar opportunity like the Glenfarclas? I am asking as a collector - I want to have Caperdonich bottle for 200€ and not for 1200€ :) Is it possible that in one year or two I will not buy Caperdonich for "reasonable price"? bye, have a nice days. j
Great video I love the contents I feel somewhat suspicious that they are all Glens that are being promoted but maybe I’m a cynic? Not a dig just an observation.
Hey Jack, I'm a huge cynic myself so nice to meet another! It's true these are all GF but I can't see another opportunity like them - I can't think of many other 25, 30 and 40 whiskies being available at such absurd prices. GF still on price their whiskies for the drinkers - like Springbank. But with SB the flippers go mad and yet the GF bottles just sit there nice and quietly!
Hi Mark, great video and advice! I wondered what you think about the investment potentials of Edradour whiskies?
They're probably the smallest distillery in Scotland, with only 3 people crafting their whiskies and with production in very limited volume. They also produce intense sherry cask whisky without chill filtration or colouring added, at lower prices than even Glenfarclas. I feel they have the hallmarks of a truly undervalued whisky distillery for investment at the moment. Is it a distillery worth looking at? Thanks.
Hey - I think they are owned by Signatory Vintage so are never really going to have the reach of Diageo or Edrington etc brands.
GF is different - more like Springbank - cult like following (slap bang in the middle of Speyside) and mega sherried style.
I am sure Edradour will move up - but perhaps not as quick as GF
@@MarkLittler Very valid points. I wonder if Edradour may develop a cult following sometime in the future? If the Asian market takes a liking to their whisky and their charms of being an ultra small distillery, could it be possible? 🤔
Hi Mark, thank you for the advice; only 2100 bottles of 30 YO and 800 of 40 YO were released? So this red door packaging is not going to be an annual release?
Hi Ben, I was not aware they were limited to 2,100.
I assumed release numbers would be limitd somehow. If that number is right then I can only see the values of these growing even more in the next 3-5 years.
Where did you hear about the release numbers?
Thank you for the video! You tell in the video at 7:40 that There are only 800 bottles were produced.
@@MrDonkeyMonkey15 Ah - I should have said that more clearly - there are only 2,100 30 yaerbottles from ANY distillery on the market (give or take) - i.e. 30 year old age statement whisky is very rare compared to younger age statements - mostly owing to the fact it takes a lot of time from distillation to sale!
@@MrDonkeyMonkey15 Hi - sorry - it's not as clear as it could be. I mean there have only EVER been 800 40 year old bottlings hit the amrket -EVER!!!!! They are such a rare age statement - which is why most 40YO bottlings are £5k-20k
Just curious, how about buying the bunnahabhain 30 instead? Both are 30 years old but it seems like bunna 30 is slightly cheaper based on the prices I saw on Master of Malt. Hope to hear your opinion on this!
Are those award winning bottles and limited supply ??
All very well focusing on age statements whilst focusing on quality. Glenfarclas has historically been so so, hence its market price. If spending £1000 on whisky, consider instead, 10 bottles of Indri Trini and 10 more on Ardbeg 10?
Is MACALLAN 21 fine oak a good investment?
Long term anything Macallan is a good investment
Hi mark ,there are two different glen40 one is 46° with the old school box and the new one is only 43° which one should i pick? thank you
To me it's all about the box with this one - so go for the red warehouse door one 👍
Now GF has the 35 warehouse too
I think a very good invest is "Ardbeg - Fermutation"
Please, assess between 90 dollar to 200 dollar for low budget whiskey lovers.👍
All Springbank Whiskys...they are incredibly good and produce only few bottles compared to Macallan and many others....
@@domidasch8647 👍👍👍
Honestly? Everything over that magical 21 year age statement is jumping in price with every new batch but I do think you are on to something with the GF presentation boxes.
Hi Neil - it's incredible isn't it - these are just hiding in plain sight.
Did you see the whiskystats price update for March 2023? I think you are on to something!
Clearly a lot of people follow your advice as I can’t even locate one online now for the 25 :/
Madness! I think the release number must be quite low also - it would be interesting if they ever delcared it!
I bought a bottle of Springbank 22 forgotten Gems one of a batch of 56 recently on auction. It seems to be going up 100£ with each auction. I paid a bit but for a name like Springbank and very limited batch I seen an opportunity that I didn’t want to miss it’s unlikely to be on many auctions due to the limited bottling, I paid 650£ altogether with auction fees. Not entirely convinced I made the right move but I wasn’t prepared to lose out on such a rarity.
IB bottles on the secondary market are strange things. I would wager quite a lot that some of the IB owners are putting their bottles into auction and bidding them up to drive sales, i.e. drive the auction price above RRP to make the remaining stock sell quicker. It's an odd market where people believe all that they see.
That said, I like the Forgotten Gems bottle, it's well presented and the juice will be incredible too!
@@MarkLittler Thanks for the reply. I might list one or two of my bottles on Whiskybase, do you know if an alcohol license is required for selling bottles?
I have one bottle of 25 years old Glengoyane vintage 1972 nr. Bottle 938 with certificate. How much cost ???
Assuming its casks 1478-1485 then circa £600-800
@@MarkLittler if i sold ???
@@paolomasteryachtpaolodegio5335 That's about the market rate. If you're in the UK get in touch with me and we can help you sell.
Thanks a lot but i live in Italy
Tomatin 40 is also a good Investment around 1000€ !!! Only 600 bottled :)
Oh wow - is that a travel exclusive bottle perhaps?
Yes, right ;)
You can buy it for 1050€ in Germany
2 bottles left at WHISKYWIZARD DE :)
Are they still good investments? I know this is over 8 months old..... TIA
They sure are. The 25 is no longer available and is c €1000-1500 at auction now 🤷♂️
@@MarkLittler wow, thank you.... Do you know where I can look for undervalued whiskys at the moment? I am just getting into it. The issue is where the heck do you resell them at? I read you cant sell on FB, Ebay, Mercari, etc.
Glenfarclas!
Hi Mark, thanks for this video. Would you recommend Glen Grant 21 yo as an investment?
Glenfarclas is known as a value whiskey, I just don’t see it getting the necessary hype to make at as valuable as springbank or Macallan.
Springbank was looked at as a value brand too, before the market decided to make it what it is today
Available at The Real Drinks Company
They seem to be coming in and out of stock in a few places...
No luck, the 25 sold out everywhere now :/
I got me 3 bottles . I am promoting the heck out of GF. It is a great for its cost. All this new bs from Mac deterred me from investing in them. Ie. Nas James b in a cheap tube. Lol.
glenfarclass beautiful box, but i hate this whisky
Oh no! You must send all your open bottles to me now and I will take care of this for you ;)
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I'm always a fan of your comments - as cryptic as they are as long as the thumbs up I am taking it as a compliment 😀
@@MarkLittler 40th like on the video.
If he believes these are the best investments he’s undoubtedly investing in them too…. Probably the very bottles on display. No harm in promoting your own investments I guess!
Hey - I', glad you liked the video. Sure, I have bought these bottles, they will stay in my colection until my son is 18 (13 years away!). I feel that if my video was to have any weight then I would have had to at least put my money where my mouth was! Do you collect any bottles?
You cannot pump a price of anything just because you think it is under valued. You can sit on that 40 year old bottle another 40 years and it may even lose value. Just drink it with friends and family and be happy.
Lmao, with inflation the way it is, u can't ever lose value on anything. Here in Canada the 25 just went from $269 to $340 over night
the 35 years is out! now 👍🏻😃 I bought the 30,35,40 😉 BLADNOCH 30 Years also ticks all the boxes: 30 years, sherry cask, 950 pieces, Nick Savage, a killer wooden and leather package and heavy underpriced! a must buy!
.... Probably not
Hahaha, you can't say that without putting your head above the parapet and giving us your top picks...
Sorry, but this is a lot of nonsense.
You probably have to study the matter of brands (brand recognition, brand valuation, etc.) in order to recalibrate your statements.
It is simply not true to say: look, people are paying a lot more for Springbank 25, so buy Glenfarclas 25 - because it is a bargain.
With the same argumentation you could say: look, people are paying a lot more for a Rolex watch, compared to an Omega watch. So get out and buy as much Omega watches as you can and you will get rich.
Or with the same argumentation you could say: look, people are paying considerably more for Coca Cola compared to no name Coke from the retailer. Buy more retailer coke - because it is a good investment.
That is nonsense.
Glenfarclas - beside considerable batch variations - has always been the Volkswagen in the whisky industry: decent quality with decent pricing. But it is NOT a premium brand.
And just by releasing premium products, you do not get a premium brand - see VW Pheaton.
May be you google the word "goodwill" to understand what brand valuation is about, how tricky it is and maybe you come to the conclusion that Glenfarclas will never be Springbank or Macallan.
Brands are valuable. This is why the valuation of e.g. cars, art, cigars, watches, etc. extremely differs.
Conclusion: Is Glenfarclas whisky any good? Yes! Will the older expressions increase in price over time? Yes! Will its brand and the valuation of its whisky respectively reach the recognition and valuation of Springbank? No!
Funny, because before springbank had its run up to what it is today, people all over forums had the same sentiment as you are having with GF
no whiskey worth of investment.
Nope
Insightful
If anybody ask you “wich whisky should I invest”… run from him, block his number and never talk to this greddy person again. Because of that people whisky has these insane prices
But what about the industry that specifically markets bottles to this demographic. Why is everything a limited edition now if not to appeal to collectors. What good do fancy decanters and boxes make to the profile of the whisky. While I agree with your sentiment the industry is also complicit in the changes we have witnessed.
Jesus Christ y’all have too much money and not enough real problems
This is bs😁
and the sponsor of this video is.........
Nobody!