Yes for that patch. Until dps that ignores weakness entirely drops soon..along with many other powerful dps. But for this next patch he will indeed be on top as JW was on Topaz release.
@@xMomoeea good welt build could also rival IL. Of course it's not e0 vs e0. But since welt is a normal banner character, it's not impossible to have welt at higher eidolon.
@@danielak1666 Yeah and you also need an enemy who doesn't spawn minions so he's pretty situational and it's really depends on your account luck since he's not the only standard banner character you could lose your 50/50 to have alot of Eidolon with him.
I feel Dan IL is alot less interesting with everyone just having gotten Dr.Ratio for free. They directly compete with each other as your accounts Imaginary DPS. Should a new account really get IL keeping Ratio in mind?
Highly depends on the content one clears because the biggest factor between these two is their paths, Ratio is Hunt so he is single target only, while DanIL can hit multiple targets. Personally, while I love follow-ups and enjoy Dr. Ratio, for a newer player I think DanIL offers a great alternative depending on the content they need to clear that may prefer a multiple target hitting unit :)
I will be straight with you. Ratio is ultimatelly still inferior to Dan.There are cases when he edges out, but in most cases Dan is just better option for new account. That said pulling for Topaz is viable alternative to Dan IL as her and Ratio are probably stronger when in same team.
@@Unstableono. For a newer player it’s the opposite. They shouldn’t be getting another imaginary dps when they are new. For a late game player trying to clear moc, DHIL is a very good pull
Black swan helped me dominate sim universe, as Kafka and Ruan Mei were already doing good damage. Black swan took them to another level. Her arcana is so amazing
I don't even have Ruan Mei, I just have Kafka and Black Swan both at E0S0 and they're already hitting way above their weight class. Nihility Resonance is ridiculously OP and synergizes with both of their kits a lot. I can't wait to get Ruan Mei lol.
@@hazardsignstruth. I couldn’t 12 star the first one but went back with Black Swan and it was hilarious how fast the robots just exploded into each other upon entering the field.
Really interesting perspective, I haven't heard anyone else talking about BS as a counter for fast enemies or whether we're likely to see that trend continue in the meta
Dr. Ratio has the benefit of being free DHIL you have to pull for. Dr. Ratio does not counter any bosses currently in the game DHIL hard counters SAM. Dr. Ratio is better in ST DHIL stomps in 3T and is marginally better at 2T. There is a 22% powergap between E0S0 Ratio and E0S1 Ratio. DHIL only has a 5% power gap between E0S0 and E0S1. Dr. Ratio has to rely on debuffers for consistent DMG output and SP positive supports alongside TY. DHIL relies only on SP positive supports the release of Hanya has allowed for DHIL to have better rotations all the while being able to use Bronya in the same team granted E1 Bronya is needed. Black Swan with the right build and team could deal true dmg and can also synergize with E4 Sampo. Blade well when Sparkle released becomes the weakest limited 5 star DPS doesn't mean his bad he is tanky and synergizes with the current top supports out rn. Black Swan is a bit harder to build than Blade cause she wants spd and a lot of Effect hit rate meanwhile Blade works with just raw HP% and a decent amount of Crit GachaSmack showcased this in his videos. Both of their BIS NON SIG LC are Gacha LC. E0S0 Blade has a 30% gap without S5 Secret vow or the new Forgotten hall LC to E0S1 the highest gap in the game.
I chose DHIL even though I'm a Kafka main. He's going to be even more op and fun once hanabi comes out. As for BS, I like Sampo and I don't see BS as a big upgrade over him. Another reason why I chose DHIL was because BS is hard to build and needs an extremely high investment.
@@jdssnake Based on what? Because According to the most calcs I saw she's only 10 to 20 percent better than a well invested E6S5 sampo, and this is on scenarios where they are three enemies where BS is supposed to excel at. Not to mention I can already beat any MOC or SU content with Kafka and sampo so there's that too. BS has one big advantage over sampo though, she can be viable outside DoT teams due to her Def shred.
@@HolyinductorWhen using his ult it advances him 100% and lets him use his 3 skill point attack for free. For example, 3SPA - Ult - Free 3SPA. That would only cost 3 skill points.
One thing people should do if you like dot team is you need 1 quantum or imaginary or ice dps since those elements cannot be covered by your dot team. Since all elite have at least 3 weakness, having 5/7 elements will guarantee solutions for any problem. Lunae is a great option
but we got dr ratio for free, we already have that element covered. Lunae's value went down since, and unless they also get sparkle then it isn't as valuable
i got my Jing Liu with e0s0, and Dr. Ratio e1s1, and My DOT team is good tho since my Kafka have signature LC and E1, and i get my Black Swan yesterday, so i'm saving to my Gundam and skipping whole 2.1 (if i have enough pull, i will pulling JY LC for my Erudition Unit such as Himeko, Herta, and QQ)
@@chris-jn4ut imo any good ice/img/quantum is fine. Just saying base on this vid context. Dr ratio is actually insane for dot main cause dot already have abundance of debuff. Enemy like boss kafka resist lightning so ratio and bs can sred their shield incredibly fast
Or you got that Dr. Ratio, eventhough his team comps is limited bcs he must bring debuffer in the next moc turbulence... Imo if you already invest on dot team better invest on quantum or ice dps, i also wait for jingliu bcs i dont hv any good ice dps (herta only for pf) and for quantum there are a lot of choice like seele, qq, or xueyi.
So here is my thought: 1. I guess IL is better if u can have him to E2, moreover with S1. E2S1 and build him with ER rope, you can ult every 2 EBA with his build alone. Imagine if he’s with TY. Though it’s super expensive. His E0S1 (pre-sparkle) is quite underwhelming now tho. 2. BS E0S1 is a better investment in the future. The more DoT char added to the game, the stronger she will become. She offers lots of flexibility and team comp variations. Meanwhile, IL is getting boosted by sparkle later and in this 2.0, i guess IL would be better. Everything is dependable. U have kafka and any other DoT chars built? Go for her. R u planning to get him at least E2 and Sparkle? Go for him. IL is better if u commit yourself to invest both in his team and relics (CR and CDM farming is painful).
Unless you really like dot playstyle, it's way better to skip then since you would need to get kafka to get really high dmg with those and future units seems even more valuable and will fit into most teams not just
I have Kafka and I have all d.ot 4 stars..sampo e6. Although I don’t like him much 😅 I also have blade though and someone just said no point if u have blade…
While I agree the double DPS meta may be here for a few months, I doubt they d actually want to go into a triple DPS meta as that d kill of all non-DPS units in the game. I honestly think one of the ways they will deal with tryint to make us roll evne after we have the elemental coverage is keep making bosses or new end-game that heavily favors a certain path or playstyle...just like they saved Erudition with PF. Or just like the new boss punishes you for using SP. I d not be surprised if they make a boss with extremely high resistance to DOTs in the future just like Argenti is pretty resistant to freeze. So while I do think DOTs do loks safe for now, I do think that they d be also extremely easy mitigate, if Hoyo wants us to focus ona different playstyle(which foc they will coz they want reruns to sell too). Additionally, I m pretty sure that lore-wise there are 18 paths or so, so I d also not be surprised if 3.0 introduced new paths, mechanics or evne new elements, as that d be the easiet way to make people roll and I believe 3.0 is where Genshin introduced their new element....so we do have a Hoyoverse pattern there.
They wont that would be way more complicated. Theyll be integrating the other paths in the current playable paths just like how DHIL is destruction but is best played with the Propagation path
Damage output is not a thing when it comes to limited 5* DPS because all of them can do their job in their corresponding element weakness enemy. Just pull on what you are lacking (element coverage, utility and sustain). If you don't care about meta just pull what you want
Got Black Swan on the first day and E2 DHIL yesterday ✨ (took 400 pulls all of my in game savings are gone 💀) i will have enough pulls by the end of Sparkle's banner to reach one 50/50 pls pray for me she'd be so good for my acc
@@TokitoRen5633 not on DHIL I had him E0 and his two eidolons took 161 pulls but I lost my 50/50 on Black Swan and she took around 160 pulls to come home E0 💀 I spent the rest on the lc banner and didn't get anything
I believe ratio is a single target monster and, while still strong and able to deal with MoC more easily than single target, spalsh damage without flavor might fall down a little
She seems to be viable with nilhility characters, SO mostly SW and Pela will be paired with Acheron but Dr ratio can be used with BS but your better offer with DR ratio, Sw. BS is more centered around Dots
i have both off them in my team atm with natasha and misha its not the best team so far but its fun black swan can lower def and do dot on all enemys and lunae if you have plenty off stacks and press E multi times he do alot off damage after that his ultimate pop up so again he can do alot off damage not to mention misha for a 4 star this guy do a shit ton off damage with his ultimate and if lucky he freez them also and after that i lvl up my buffers like Tingyun and bronya and try to get my hand on a second healer for the rest i did pull clara lvl her up to and test things out with a difrent team maybe clara with black swan ore Lunae sadly i didt pull kafka :( maybe next time but am stil pretty new so i can test alot
Here's my question, and it's not even about Dhil vs Swan cus I don't have Kafka. The thing is: I have Dhil e1s1 (tried getting e2 on his debut but got denied by Bailu) and I wanted to know if it's better to get his e2 or to get e0 Sparkle? This time I have guaranteed but I can't seem to be able to come up with a decision on either Dhil e2 or Sparkle :(
EOS1 sparkle has more value than E2S1 DHIL. you can use Sparkle in every team except DOT team while DHIL is for imaginary weak enemy only. And take note that E2S1 DHIL is even more harder to maintain in terms of SP consumption because he will use his extra skill point right away after ult so no more skill points for your team unless you're not using 3 stack skill
Agreed with the posters here, Sparkle is a better overall investment for your account. She will remain useful even if you change your DPS or play style down the line.
I only have sampo and danheng for any wind content. Idk if shes worth pulling to fill that role. I would've gotten blade had I won 50/50 on kafka banner .____.
I REALLY just want Topaz and Ruan Mei to come back. However, I am curious to see exactly what Sparkle does for my hypercarry Seele 2nd squad. I'm about 5 pulls from a 100% character, so I'm stuck on pulling until someone else drops. I need to see what the 2.1 banners look like and if I should save, or just pull on the Sparkle banner and then save for 2.2 and beyond.
Resources wise DHIL is much more efficient to build/farm cuz what people don't understand is how hard to speed tune BlackSwan DoT teams to accommodate Kafka in a optimal team rotation DHIL don't need that he can be on his optimal condition every rotation & people like to fuss about DHIL SP management but in game it's so much more easier to manage.
If you have kafka black swan is a must pull you bassicaly get a SSS tier team with kafka/black swan/ruan mei/sustain however dan heng il is still an amazing unit and if you like him more than black swan you should pull for him he is still very powerfull and very good imaginary breaker
if they plan on making SAM harder(probably true in 2.1) if you have finished the story or fought against him all those F2P Lunaes will just die xd, if the agrument is purely based on either BS or DHIL
am I the only one who pulled BS for PF? since her technique has chance to apply Arcana on every enemy in PF I think she's future proof and gonna be a staple in PF no matter the gimmick
Yep, pulled her mainly cause she's the prettiest and quite surprised how well she does in PF. I run her hyper with Ruan and Tingyun and can easily 40k final stage of PF on one side. I'd say her mechanics of inflicting arcana stacks on enemy entrance is definitely made for her PF performance.
From my perspective I would say that... To just clear contnent it's whatever. Both are good. We already have Ratio so you don't need Daniel. Black Swan is probably better option to pick. I disagree about Black Swan vs. slower enemies. The slower enemy is the more arcana stacks you can place = high number at enemy turn. Anyway. Daniel looks for me more like a funny character if you want to have fun with 0 cycle bs. DoT are kinda problematic with that. But Daniel with 3 harmony characters probably can one shot a lot of things. So it depends what you want to do in game and what is "fun" for you. If you want just to clear content you don't need both. Ratio is enough, also Sampo is enough.
tbh, Kafka is the best companion for BS (for dmg) but she´s also fine on her own. She works great with GNF/E4 Sampo/ E6 Luka but you can also use her as debuffer for Ratio. I pulled for her because i need wind coverage and she´s doing a great job, even without my Kafka. BS will also work with future DoT units and her def down gives her some utility on top for other comps.
@@dispatcharmy you´re welcome. There are show cases of BS without Kafka in MOC on YT too, if you are searching for more input. In the end its your decision, there will be a lot of good characters in future so you can safe up if you are not sure to pull now
Sampo, Guinaifen, Luka can detonate their matching dot type, which all works during Black Swan ult. Also, if an enemy movies 3 turns in a row, there will be no arcana left on them, so she's not that good against fast enemies.
Yes but taking one stack is very weak... you want to stack it as high as possible when it detonates. It is better to slow the enemy and detonate bigger stacks, than it is to speed the enemy up and detonate small stacks To be clear, i prefer black swan over DHIL, i just dont think you run her with freeze is all @@kyeda
This is not selling us. WHAT will sell us today and onward......is a sustain mommy so we can run 4-team mommies that will shatter meta in this game. forever. lol
Sure we have dr ratio, but I enjoy playing DHIL 20x more. I think sparkle will make him arguably the best dps in the game
Yes for that patch. Until dps that ignores weakness entirely drops soon..along with many other powerful dps. But for this next patch he will indeed be on top as JW was on Topaz release.
Hes already the best you just need to get him to e2 😭🙏🏻
I am a Kafka main (with E6 Sampo/E6 Guina and RM) but I chose DHIL 'cause I love him, so I'll save for Sparkle next. I'll try to get BS on her rerun 😅
As a e2s1 IL user, any other dps that I use just feels lackluster when everything is dead on a single IL's fingerus maximus lmao
I have e2s1 I go get he's strong but not Overkill strong..... Still have to work decently enough to zero cycle but I get u
@@slasherzone then you gotta work on your build / supports, e2 dhil alone is enough to be overkill strong as it adds ~60-70% dmg
Imbibitor has more competition. Black Swan's only real closest 1:1 competition is Sampo and frankly that's a competition where she easily wins.
Has more competition? I Don't think the one and only Dr. Ratio is plural since he's the only Imaginary DPS who can rival DHIL.
@@xMomoee Everyone got Ratio for free, so DHIL might feel like a sidegrade for most accounts.
@@ezdepaz4363 Yeah like i said Dr. Ratio is the only one who can rival him and there's not alot of option.
@@xMomoeea good welt build could also rival IL. Of course it's not e0 vs e0. But since welt is a normal banner character, it's not impossible to have welt at higher eidolon.
@@danielak1666 Yeah and you also need an enemy who doesn't spawn minions so he's pretty situational and it's really depends on your account luck since he's not the only standard banner character you could lose your 50/50 to have alot of Eidolon with him.
Plus no mention of vertical investment was mentioned....inibitor has a massive e2
I feel Dan IL is alot less interesting with everyone just having gotten Dr.Ratio for free. They directly compete with each other as your accounts Imaginary DPS. Should a new account really get IL keeping Ratio in mind?
Only if they don't like Dr Ratio.
Highly depends on the content one clears because the biggest factor between these two is their paths, Ratio is Hunt so he is single target only, while DanIL can hit multiple targets.
Personally, while I love follow-ups and enjoy Dr. Ratio, for a newer player I think DanIL offers a great alternative depending on the content they need to clear that may prefer a multiple target hitting unit :)
I will be straight with you. Ratio is ultimatelly still inferior to Dan.There are cases when he edges out, but in most cases Dan is just better option for new account. That said pulling for Topaz is viable alternative to Dan IL as her and Ratio are probably stronger when in same team.
sadly for me yes since i already have jingliu and dr ratio opens a new different type of comp for me
@@Unstableono. For a newer player it’s the opposite. They shouldn’t be getting another imaginary dps when they are new. For a late game player trying to clear moc, DHIL is a very good pull
Black swan helped me dominate sim universe, as Kafka and Ruan Mei were already doing good damage. Black swan took them to another level.
Her arcana is so amazing
I don't even have Ruan Mei, I just have Kafka and Black Swan both at E0S0 and they're already hitting way above their weight class. Nihility Resonance is ridiculously OP and synergizes with both of their kits a lot. I can't wait to get Ruan Mei lol.
@chickensky1121 they are straight busted with hunt energy on kill perk.
She is also amazing in Pure Fiction. Mobs were dropping left and right before any other character had taken a turn 😆👍🏻
@@hazardsignstruth. I couldn’t 12 star the first one but went back with Black Swan and it was hilarious how fast the robots just exploded into each other upon entering the field.
Getting e1s1 Ruan is one of the best decisions I made in hsr
Really interesting perspective, I haven't heard anyone else talking about BS as a counter for fast enemies or whether we're likely to see that trend continue in the meta
I feel like comparing elements is more useful. In otherwords, Black Swan vs Blade or DHIL vs Dr Ratio.
Yeah exactly, It was hard to think for me if he compare DoT to Dps.
Dr. Ratio has the benefit of being free DHIL you have to pull for. Dr. Ratio does not counter any bosses currently in the game DHIL hard counters SAM. Dr. Ratio is better in ST DHIL stomps in 3T and is marginally better at 2T. There is a 22% powergap between E0S0 Ratio and E0S1 Ratio. DHIL only has a 5% power gap between E0S0 and E0S1. Dr. Ratio has to rely on debuffers for consistent DMG output and SP positive supports alongside TY. DHIL relies only on SP positive supports the release of Hanya has allowed for DHIL to have better rotations all the while being able to use Bronya in the same team granted E1 Bronya is needed.
Black Swan with the right build and team could deal true dmg and can also synergize with E4 Sampo. Blade well when Sparkle released becomes the weakest limited 5 star DPS doesn't mean his bad he is tanky and synergizes with the current top supports out rn. Black Swan is a bit harder to build than Blade cause she wants spd and a lot of Effect hit rate meanwhile Blade works with just raw HP% and a decent amount of Crit GachaSmack showcased this in his videos. Both of their BIS NON SIG LC are Gacha LC. E0S0 Blade has a 30% gap without S5 Secret vow or the new Forgotten hall LC to E0S1 the highest gap in the game.
I chose DHIL even though I'm a Kafka main. He's going to be even more op and fun once hanabi comes out. As for BS, I like Sampo and I don't see BS as a big upgrade over him. Another reason why I chose DHIL was because BS is hard to build and needs an extremely high investment.
@@jdssnake Based on what? Because According to the most calcs I saw she's only 10 to 20 percent better than a well invested E6S5 sampo, and this is on scenarios where they are three enemies where BS is supposed to excel at. Not to mention I can already beat any MOC or SU content with Kafka and sampo so there's that too. BS has one big advantage over sampo though, she can be viable outside DoT teams due to her Def shred.
My account was setup perfectly for bs since i started playing. 2 turn ult asta, guinaifen e4, and even kafka with lc. Definitely pulling her
having E2 lunae, generally i dont even pull any charactor LC lightcone not even him, but his e2, it really change the way play the game.
What does his e2 do?
@@HolyinductorWhen using his ult it advances him 100% and lets him use his 3 skill point attack for free.
For example, 3SPA - Ult - Free 3SPA. That would only cost 3 skill points.
One thing people should do if you like dot team is you need 1 quantum or imaginary or ice dps since those elements cannot be covered by your dot team. Since all elite have at least 3 weakness, having 5/7 elements will guarantee solutions for any problem. Lunae is a great option
but we got dr ratio for free, we already have that element covered. Lunae's value went down since, and unless they also get sparkle then it isn't as valuable
honestly dr ratio is enough for imaginary coverage,
i got my Jing Liu with e0s0, and Dr. Ratio e1s1, and My DOT team is good tho since my Kafka have signature LC and E1, and i get my Black Swan yesterday, so i'm saving to my Gundam and skipping whole 2.1 (if i have enough pull, i will pulling JY LC for my Erudition Unit such as Himeko, Herta, and QQ)
@@chris-jn4ut imo any good ice/img/quantum is fine. Just saying base on this vid context.
Dr ratio is actually insane for dot main cause dot already have abundance of debuff. Enemy like boss kafka resist lightning so ratio and bs can sred their shield incredibly fast
Or you got that Dr. Ratio, eventhough his team comps is limited bcs he must bring debuffer in the next moc turbulence... Imo if you already invest on dot team better invest on quantum or ice dps, i also wait for jingliu bcs i dont hv any good ice dps (herta only for pf) and for quantum there are a lot of choice like seele, qq, or xueyi.
I got both. IL is my favourite character though so I got E1 BS and E2 IL. Got both LC too. Yes I’m whale
i also think that curently, lunae can only be play in single dps comp, with with the arrival of sparkle, u can play lunae in double dps comp
Yeah I pulled for dhil instead of black swan. Now just waiting for sparkle and he will he godly
been heavily contemplating pulling dan on my 2nd account
So here is my thought:
1. I guess IL is better if u can have him to E2, moreover with S1. E2S1 and build him with ER rope, you can ult every 2 EBA with his build alone. Imagine if he’s with TY. Though it’s super expensive. His E0S1 (pre-sparkle) is quite underwhelming now tho.
2. BS E0S1 is a better investment in the future. The more DoT char added to the game, the stronger she will become. She offers lots of flexibility and team comp variations. Meanwhile, IL is getting boosted by sparkle later and in this 2.0, i guess IL would be better.
Everything is dependable. U have kafka and any other DoT chars built? Go for her. R u planning to get him at least E2 and Sparkle? Go for him. IL is better if u commit yourself to invest both in his team and relics (CR and CDM farming is painful).
I have musketeers set on imbibitor with 50 plus crit and 133 cd is that good
It's a start but no where near good enough.....I got 70cr 180 CD but I'm a day one player
DHIL skill animation is so cool!
I'm also contemplating rn since I only have Sampo and Serval as my DoT characters
Unless you really like dot playstyle, it's way better to skip then since you would need to get kafka to get really high dmg with those and future units seems even more valuable and will fit into most teams not just
JUST GET BLACK SWAN NO DEBATE assuming if you like her
@@kacpersmolarek2225 NO you dont need kafka to do high damage black swan can do good enouogh dmg on her own
I have Kafka and I have all d.ot 4 stars..sampo e6. Although I don’t like him much 😅 I also have blade though and someone just said no point if u have blade…
@@kacpersmolarek2225 update: I now have Black Swan and Guinaifen hahhaha I'm making a DoT Team with them together plus ruan mei and bailu
im not a husbando lover im a powerfull dangerous character lover
Preach
dont worry too much gamers
IL dan heng still has value .
hes just fucking insane alongside welt dr ratio and tingyun
While I agree the double DPS meta may be here for a few months, I doubt they d actually want to go into a triple DPS meta as that d kill of all non-DPS units in the game. I honestly think one of the ways they will deal with tryint to make us roll evne after we have the elemental coverage is keep making bosses or new end-game that heavily favors a certain path or playstyle...just like they saved Erudition with PF. Or just like the new boss punishes you for using SP. I d not be surprised if they make a boss with extremely high resistance to DOTs in the future just like Argenti is pretty resistant to freeze. So while I do think DOTs do loks safe for now, I do think that they d be also extremely easy mitigate, if Hoyo wants us to focus ona different playstyle(which foc they will coz they want reruns to sell too).
Additionally, I m pretty sure that lore-wise there are 18 paths or so, so I d also not be surprised if 3.0 introduced new paths, mechanics or evne new elements, as that d be the easiet way to make people roll and I believe 3.0 is where Genshin introduced their new element....so we do have a Hoyoverse pattern there.
They wont that would be way more complicated. Theyll be integrating the other paths in the current playable paths just like how DHIL is destruction but is best played with the Propagation path
one thing to mention if you want both swan will likely rerun again before dhil does that said I went for swan despite wanting dhil
Damage output is not a thing when it comes to limited 5* DPS because all of them can do their job in their corresponding element weakness enemy. Just pull on what you are lacking (element coverage, utility and sustain). If you don't care about meta just pull what you want
Got Black Swan on the first day and E2 DHIL yesterday ✨ (took 400 pulls all of my in game savings are gone 💀) i will have enough pulls by the end of Sparkle's banner to reach one 50/50 pls pray for me she'd be so good for my acc
whoa e2 dhil your lucky did you miss any 50 50
@@TokitoRen5633 not on DHIL I had him E0 and his two eidolons took 161 pulls but I lost my 50/50 on Black Swan and she took around 160 pulls to come home E0 💀 I spent the rest on the lc banner and didn't get anything
@@eh1165oof brutal
How long did u save?
@@caiors419 I skipped 6 banners in total but I buy the supply + monthly pass :)
I believe ratio is a single target monster and, while still strong and able to deal with MoC more easily than single target, spalsh damage without flavor might fall down a little
I’m in the Archeron waiting room…
YOU AND ME BOTH SHE WILL GET HER E1 AT LEAST
Same !!!
Misha is a mini Welt or sustain unit on both of thier banners
does achlion goes well with black sawm?
also does dr. ratio works well with bs also? thanks
She seems to be viable with nilhility characters, SO mostly SW and Pela will be paired with Acheron
but Dr ratio can be used with BS but your better offer with DR ratio, Sw. BS is more centered around Dots
I have E6 gui and no kafka...I have guatantee pull and i had pulled 70 so far no luck.Should I pull dhil or Bs? I have huohuo,sw,asta,tingyun etc
Prob get a dps this time.
If you don't have Kafka and ruan mei then Black swan won't do much
@@jagannathsabat1527black swan can do very well even without Kafka with sampo e4, it’s just that she unlocks her full potential with Kafka
i have both off them in my team atm with natasha and misha its not the best team so far but its fun black swan can lower def and do dot on all enemys and lunae if you have plenty off stacks and press E multi times he do alot off damage after that his ultimate pop up so again he can do alot off damage not to mention misha for a 4 star this guy do a shit ton off damage with his ultimate and if lucky he freez them also and after that i lvl up my buffers like Tingyun and bronya and try to get my hand on a second healer for the rest i did pull clara lvl her up to and test things out with a difrent team maybe clara with black swan ore Lunae sadly i didt pull kafka :( maybe next time but am stil pretty new so i can test alot
Here's my question, and it's not even about Dhil vs Swan cus I don't have Kafka. The thing is:
I have Dhil e1s1 (tried getting e2 on his debut but got denied by Bailu) and I wanted to know if it's better to get his e2 or to get e0 Sparkle? This time I have guaranteed but I can't seem to be able to come up with a decision on either Dhil e2 or Sparkle :(
EOS1 sparkle has more value than E2S1 DHIL. you can use Sparkle in every team except DOT team while DHIL is for imaginary weak enemy only. And take note that E2S1 DHIL is even more harder to maintain in terms of SP consumption because he will use his extra skill point right away after ult so no more skill points for your team unless you're not using 3 stack skill
E2 is a massive increase for IL but E0 Sparkle is the better investment. If you could get both that would be really really good.
Agreed with the posters here, Sparkle is a better overall investment for your account. She will remain useful even if you change your DPS or play style down the line.
E2 DHIL or Black swan? I got Kafka and will be pulling for Sparkle, should I pull for E2 DHIL?
@@loreyxillumina BS is pretty broken with Kafka so I'd get her oven DHIL's E2 a new character brings more value than an eidolon.
I only have sampo and danheng for any wind content. Idk if shes worth pulling to fill that role. I would've gotten blade had I won 50/50 on kafka banner .____.
Question: I have E1 DHIL but I also have Kafka, should I go for Blackswan or E2 Imbibitor Lunae?
Go for E2 IL he's cons are good
@@RaidenArle bro no lol go for black swan so you can have another team and with kafka it's op af
I REALLY just want Topaz and Ruan Mei to come back. However, I am curious to see exactly what Sparkle does for my hypercarry Seele 2nd squad.
I'm about 5 pulls from a 100% character, so I'm stuck on pulling until someone else drops. I need to see what the 2.1 banners look like and if I should save, or just pull on the Sparkle banner and then save for 2.2 and beyond.
What is the difference between e1 of black Swan and e2 of kafka one says active other says on field
I think "active" means it's always active & "on field" means it's active until the thing disappears or the character is dead
"on the field" means alive in your team.
I think "active" means during a specific character's turn.
Resources wise DHIL is much more efficient to build/farm cuz what people don't understand is how hard to speed tune BlackSwan DoT teams to accommodate Kafka in a optimal team rotation DHIL don't need that he can be on his optimal condition every rotation & people like to fuss about DHIL SP management but in game it's so much more easier to manage.
I agree, i got him nearly a week ago, and SP management was lightwork for me when i figured out my teams
Don't have Kafka and don't have Dhil. I found this to be a absolute win, saving continues.. until SAM
On the fall of an aeon is not significantly weaker than his signature
If you have kafka black swan is a must pull you bassicaly get a SSS tier team with kafka/black swan/ruan mei/sustain however dan heng il is still an amazing unit and if you like him more than black swan you should pull for him he is still very powerfull and very good imaginary breaker
got both now i just need sparkle (got black swan since i have kafka)
if they plan on making SAM harder(probably true in 2.1) if you have finished the story or fought against him all those F2P Lunaes will just die xd, if the agrument is purely based on either BS or DHIL
got both 😎
I really like black swan.. she's a dps n support at same time you can throw her into any team she does her job
am I the only one who pulled BS for PF? since her technique has chance to apply Arcana on every enemy in PF I think she's future proof and gonna be a staple in PF no matter the gimmick
Had that plan as well, but since I lost 50/50 (which is a good thing, cuz I got a new Himeko) and i can still pull for Hanabi
Yep, pulled her mainly cause she's the prettiest and quite surprised how well she does in PF. I run her hyper with Ruan and Tingyun and can easily 40k final stage of PF on one side. I'd say her mechanics of inflicting arcana stacks on enemy entrance is definitely made for her PF performance.
Just use dr ratio in one team for moc and use dhil in the second. Easy moc 1-12 clear
From my perspective I would say that... To just clear contnent it's whatever. Both are good. We already have Ratio so you don't need Daniel. Black Swan is probably better option to pick.
I disagree about Black Swan vs. slower enemies. The slower enemy is the more arcana stacks you can place = high number at enemy turn. Anyway. Daniel looks for me more like a funny character if you want to have fun with 0 cycle bs. DoT are kinda problematic with that. But Daniel with 3 harmony characters probably can one shot a lot of things. So it depends what you want to do in game and what is "fun" for you.
If you want just to clear content you don't need both. Ratio is enough, also Sampo is enough.
If you don't have kafka. Then don't pull Blackswan
Also if you have high investment on Dr.Ratio. just skip this banner all together
Im a new-mid player and I dont have Kafka. But i do have sampo, serval, GNF built. Still worth pulling BS? Im really torn and lost, arghhh
If you have GNF with at least C4 or C6, then you don’t need Kafka. Run BS as your DPS, with GNF/Samp as your sub DPS.
tbh, Kafka is the best companion for BS (for dmg) but she´s also fine on her own. She works great with GNF/E4 Sampo/ E6 Luka but you can also use her as debuffer for Ratio.
I pulled for her because i need wind coverage and she´s doing a great job, even without my Kafka. BS will also work with future DoT units and her def down gives her some utility on top for other comps.
@@intrepidHuntress Thank you for your insight! I need some wind DPS as well, as im missing blade as well.
@@dispatcharmy you´re welcome. There are show cases of BS without Kafka in MOC on YT too, if you are searching for more input. In the end its your decision, there will be a lot of good characters in future so you can safe up if you are not sure to pull now
@@Cadmun Thanks for this insight! Im really keen on pulling her now!
I got both BS in 79 and IL in 12 🏆🎉
Same here lol. After getting Black Swan at 78 pity. Tried another 10 pull in Dan IL banner, and boom 5 star and i won my 50/50!
Sampo, Guinaifen, Luka can detonate their matching dot type, which all works during Black Swan ult.
Also, if an enemy movies 3 turns in a row, there will be no arcana left on them, so she's not that good against fast enemies.
Yes but taking one stack is very weak... you want to stack it as high as possible when it detonates. It is better to slow the enemy and detonate bigger stacks, than it is to speed the enemy up and detonate small
stacks
To be clear, i prefer black swan over DHIL, i just dont think you run her with freeze is all
@@kyeda
current pure fiction is a nightmare. I only have freezing/quantum teams qq
Herta is worth it for PF, build her.
Just E6 black swan and she can pair with any team setup
Needed this advice! Gonna go bankrupt for an e6 black swan real quick
E2 IL is better and cheaper.
You have IL and JL, you win
I got black swan on one account and IL on another, problem solved.
Just no ruan mei for me..............
This is not selling us. WHAT will sell us today and onward......is a sustain mommy so we can run 4-team mommies that will shatter meta in this game. forever. lol
DHIL is the better unit.