Copperhead Strike at Carowinds POV New for 2019

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  • @crazycoasters4514
    @crazycoasters4514 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Thanks for a pov without that music 😂

  • @kaylee_j1026
    @kaylee_j1026 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This coaster is my favorite by FAR! riding the fury tomorrow for the first time!

  • @TheHoost2
    @TheHoost2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This looks really good. I can only say positive things about mack rides. After riding icon. The ride doesnt have amazing speed but the airtime is great proving you dont need the coaster to be the tallest fastest etc.. This ride looms anazing

    • @loki3523
      @loki3523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @C Rizzy Aw, really?

    • @deltatv3525
      @deltatv3525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It has amazing hangtime it is one of the best launch coasters I’ve ridden.

    • @gowonnowog
      @gowonnowog 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you go on it it feels like it is going a lot faster than it looks personally to me

  • @JoshB333
    @JoshB333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That first loop is everything

  • @gplez91
    @gplez91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That first loop must have some awesome hang time!

    • @paigebernas4689
      @paigebernas4689 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gplez91 that was the only part I hated

    • @bored_lonely_child6413
      @bored_lonely_child6413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does I’ve been on that ride about 3-9 times the airtime is amazing

  • @ravenb.5103
    @ravenb.5103 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    All I can think about is how that used to be thunder road 😭😭😭

    • @reid1287
      @reid1287 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know right?😭😭

    • @zoieeeeeee.
      @zoieeeeeee. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Raven B. me too sis😭

    • @DavidVitrano
      @DavidVitrano 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But this is better. Much Better!

    • @pointx171
      @pointx171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. Thunder road was so fun omg

    • @addisoncarver6133
      @addisoncarver6133 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes..i remember how i was so scared to ride thunder but not anymore. I loved that ride so much

  • @bobbyswanson3498
    @bobbyswanson3498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Just got off it after a 3 hour line, the vertical loops are intense, there’s a lot of airtime, really good hangtime, and the part after the inverted top hat feels like maverick. (The ending is kinda boring though)

    • @deathrooster14
      @deathrooster14 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're kidding yourself if you think this is as good as Maverick. It's not even half as good.

    • @Marina-Leia
      @Marina-Leia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mystical Hippo I waited two hours last night 😂. I think I enjoyed it more bc I waited so long lol.

    • @nikkisavo7293
      @nikkisavo7293 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@deathrooster14 they didn't say it was as good as Maverick. They said that one element kinda FELT like Maverick.

    • @Nickf.e90
      @Nickf.e90 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For someone who doesn’t like big drops on roller coasters, this is perfect

    • @Fredboy
      @Fredboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I waited ten minutes lol

  • @trintae6977
    @trintae6977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The next time I’m going to Carowinds is in the summer. I’ll make sure to ride this.

  • @DCombz
    @DCombz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A little review for enthusiasts, fresh from riding it a few hours ago: It's a good ride. Don't expect a forceful launch and it isn't super fast but you don't notice that too much when riding it because it's compact. There are 5 inversions and 4 of them give elite hangtime (only the corkscrew doesn't). The hill on the second launch is unfortunately a letdown but there are four other hills/moments on the coaster that have good ejector airtime, and I recall at least three of those transitions feeling very snappy, especially the one before the loop. Those curves at the end don't feel as fast as the rest of the ride but you get decent positives in that small section. The launch building/preshow is unique and finding out Granny is making moonshine and disguising it as jam is fun and well-executed as a concept compared to Mystic Timbers for example.
    Overall this is probably one of the most well-rounded coasters I've been on, it does a little bit of everything. I had the pleasure of sitting on both the first and last rows twice and I'm still debating which was better. You feel the positives and snappiness of the transitions a little more in the front, and in the back you get slightly stronger airtime and the hangtime feels longer. So it depends on what you go for. I rode it five times and only one was middle-back, and that wasn't terrible.

    • @camaroncarter
      @camaroncarter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Riding it at 12:am tomorrow lol didn’t get a chance tonight cause it was packed

    • @DCombz
      @DCombz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@camaroncarter I imagine it'll be the same way tomorrow but a lot of the people who waited long said it was worth it, I'm an impatient spender who bought the fast lane with the season pass, I recommend getting one if you have the money if you're going on opening day.

    • @DCombz
      @DCombz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not the season pass thing, just a one day one. Because opening day is probably gonna be Scarowinds level crowded.

    • @Marina-Leia
      @Marina-Leia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish I could have rode that many times 😂. I rode once after a two hour wait. Didn’t get fast pass bc they were only open for 4 hours, but when I go back I definitely will get fast pass. I actually got to ride four rides which was insane to me considering how many people were there. I just hate the start of the season bc all the new employees are kind of slow. Hopefully dispatches for all rides will pick up later in the year.

    • @Marina-Leia
      @Marina-Leia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also got second row and rode it in the dark so I did pretty good 😂

  • @Itsannaax2
    @Itsannaax2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I rode it today and it beats any other coaster out there the feeling of it throwing you out your seat is amazing 😂😂😂

    • @kenlife4840
      @kenlife4840 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beautiful Bee i got on it too ughhh Idk I was scared 😂😂😂

    • @Itsannaax2
      @Itsannaax2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right I was terrified 😂😂 my stomach dropped when I got to the front of the line

    • @pointx171
      @pointx171 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuck this, Try steel vengeance

  • @therideanalyst6794
    @therideanalyst6794 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This thing is sooo good. Easily in my top 4. That’s over millennium force, twisted timbers, storm chaser, i305, and many, many other coasters.

    • @jrax1713
      @jrax1713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That seems like kind of a stretch to me considering I would probably put all those coasters much above this one

    • @temi472
      @temi472 ปีที่แล้ว

      99p99ppppp999p

  • @rightangletriangle7287
    @rightangletriangle7287 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first upside down, looping roller coaster

  • @emmysoda
    @emmysoda 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got to ride it yesterday it was awesome

  • @TheJustinRothShow
    @TheJustinRothShow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What's up with all the negative comments about this ride. I rode it on Saturday and I thought it was awesome! Great airtime and the hangtime is awesome! It's in my top 5!

  • @Reaperguy67
    @Reaperguy67 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a fun coaster to ride. Great pov.

  • @mandmproductions7866
    @mandmproductions7866 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did this ride today and it’s awesome!

  • @quirkygirlboss
    @quirkygirlboss 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That hangtime is awesome

  • @Jonathan_Camps
    @Jonathan_Camps 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The first few times I go to Carowinds this year I’m probably not even gonna ride it. This is the time to ride Fury325 and Intimidator while everyone is focused in Copperhead Strike.

  • @mayramedrano2402
    @mayramedrano2402 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This ride is fun asf y'all should ride it if y'all haven't already

  • @hannahhuffman5061
    @hannahhuffman5061 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I the only one who thinks the color of this rollercoaster makes it look even more interesting?

  • @ajmori
    @ajmori 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this vid

  • @Marina-Leia
    @Marina-Leia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was there last night!!!! Waited 2 hours to ride but it was totally worth it.

    • @borty1002
      @borty1002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      M L same

    • @CarolinaPride95
      @CarolinaPride95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2 hours? :O hopefully the drive to the park was shorter 😂 what row did you sit in?

    • @Marina-Leia
      @Marina-Leia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jake lol we literally drove two hours to wait two hours 😂 but we got second row which was pretty good!

  • @camaroncarter
    @camaroncarter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Went last night for the season pass holders thing and it looked so cool at night with its headlights

    • @emmysoda
      @emmysoda 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Ranch same

  • @coasterelite4042
    @coasterelite4042 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's in the shed?

  • @Rytoon18
    @Rytoon18 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What happened in the Barn before u launched?

    • @bobbyswanson3498
      @bobbyswanson3498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you really want a spoiler, the granny character pops up on a screen and is shouting things and there’s a few chicken animatronics, then I think the vat of moonshine blows up because the lights change to flashing orange and yellow and then you launch

  • @dapperloser3025
    @dapperloser3025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    can somebody please explain what granny is making in that barn? cause it ain't jam

    • @wickerdan9275
      @wickerdan9275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s an alcoholic beverage called moonshine. Alcohol was illegal in the 1930s, when the ride’s story takes place. That’s why Granny Byrd ain’t happy about you riders peaking into her barn, she doesn’t want to be caught.

    • @aMondayMorning
      @aMondayMorning 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wickerdan9275 I was going to reply "moonshine" as a joke but I guess not anymore lmao.

    • @CedarFairLoreArchive
      @CedarFairLoreArchive 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tbh when I heard she wasn’t making jam, I thought it was snake repellent. :P

    • @wickerdan9275
      @wickerdan9275 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      aMondayMorning Yup, that’s actually what it is.

    • @wickerdan9275
      @wickerdan9275 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      CoasterMan That would make sense! But nope, she’s making illegal beverages and probably selling them secretly. I might know a bit more if I knew what exactly is going on in the launch barn.

  • @carric9962
    @carric9962 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live by Cedar Point and we get platinum passes every year. We're thinking of going to Carowinds on our way to Myrtle Beach this year and we get in an hour early with our passes. What are the roller coasters that we want to run to and hit first off? I got to say this new one looks a little lame.

    • @IntheLoopPodcast
      @IntheLoopPodcast  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Copperhead Strike will have the longest lines in the park

  • @jakecalvello8207
    @jakecalvello8207 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you are wondering what the voice says during the jojo it is saying “Cant hide from granny!” And at the end it says “Aw shucks, we lost em!”

  • @FearCasper
    @FearCasper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really lap bars for a inverted coaster?

    • @loki3523
      @loki3523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. Over-the-shoulder restraints aren't actually necessary, as they aren't actually going to keep you any safer. Mainly they'll just make you feel more secure- though for some coasters, your body won't jerk around as much with them.

  • @GravityRaider
    @GravityRaider 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a strange plot for a theme park attraction.

    • @icepyro1
      @icepyro1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really, it relies heavily on the history of the Carolinas and thier history with moonshine

  • @taitondeboer366
    @taitondeboer366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why are there seatbelts? When there is a ride like time traveler, it kind of shows that Mack rides don’t need seatbelts on their coasters. It’s one more thing to slow down dispatch times.

    • @IntheLoopPodcast
      @IntheLoopPodcast  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe having the seat belts as a back up restraint saves them money on the parks insurance policy

    • @cameron3320
      @cameron3320 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It could also be a way to tell if someone is too big to ride. BGW said if the seatbelts on their B&Ms can’t buckle, the guest is too big

    • @coasterelite4042
      @coasterelite4042 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also it's a car so it fits the theme.

    • @Marina-Leia
      @Marina-Leia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dispatch time was really slow I do gotta say, but the seatbelts just add extra safety, especially since you get so much hang time. I’m happy they had seatbelts bc if it didn’t I probably would have been so scared to ride 😂

    • @CarolinaPride95
      @CarolinaPride95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      M L you went already? I’ve been too lazy to get my season pass 😂😂

  • @davidrice6724
    @davidrice6724 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Copperhead Strike at Carowinds has an inversion right out the gate...

  • @dannygonzalessmom5277
    @dannygonzalessmom5277 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    so in april me and my family are either going to Kings Dominion, or Busch Gardens. I want to know which one is better! pls comment.

    • @montezoomasrevengefanboy6477
      @montezoomasrevengefanboy6477 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pety pety Kings Dominion is better for riding big roller coasters, and Busch Gardens is better themed, so it depends on which you want, however I would say Kings Dominion is better

    • @dannygonzalessmom5277
      @dannygonzalessmom5277 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the info!@@montezoomasrevengefanboy6477

  • @itskidkelly
    @itskidkelly 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, saw that line yesterday. Noped out of there to fury325.

  • @mxarleni
    @mxarleni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I went on this one it was fun but I felt like I was gonna die 😂

    • @bbodybeast984
      @bbodybeast984 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kermit B.V I rode it today and the wait was soooo with it

    • @ruby5429
      @ruby5429 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Omg I felt that way with the fury... I was like this is it this it where I die. I killed my boyfriends ears in the process anddd didn’t have a voice afterwards

  • @Jacorey_620
    @Jacorey_620 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like: carowinds
    Comment: six flags
    I like carowinds

  • @detroitdiezel7856
    @detroitdiezel7856 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks like it has a ton of air time in it!

  • @Ramonatho
    @Ramonatho 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe it's just the audio on the video but those wheels and track together at low speed sounds awful. I hate that rough sound.

    • @rcky6506
      @rcky6506 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ride will most likely be smooth though

  • @emeraldyt3071
    @emeraldyt3071 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    They have music on the ride right?

  • @xcoasterenthusiast
    @xcoasterenthusiast 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheching this out on opening day.

    • @zacharylewis9321
      @zacharylewis9321 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same lol

    • @patrickrichardson9183
      @patrickrichardson9183 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. I hope the line isn’t long though, that would suck. At least they’re running 3 trains

  • @wantedwario2621
    @wantedwario2621 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Granny is pissed

  • @ryanr2885
    @ryanr2885 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m confused, how is this the most expensive addition to Carowinds when Fury 325 is in the same park?

    • @IntheLoopPodcast
      @IntheLoopPodcast  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe the “most expensive addition” includes both Copperhead and the new hotel

    • @jrax1713
      @jrax1713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IntheLoopPodcast Plus Mack rides are just super expensive in general because the pieces have to be transported overseas

  • @steven0437
    @steven0437 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best roller coaster in carowinds

  • @kamyatherula
    @kamyatherula 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I been on that it’s scary it gave me a headache just a little bit

  • @fishingharry5285
    @fishingharry5285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Add ten miles an hour to the first launch and it would be a world class ride. The first half just looks sluggish

    • @theheardtheorem
      @theheardtheorem 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      But, then there wouldn’t be the crazy hang time on the inversions.

    • @spaceistheplace2293
      @spaceistheplace2293 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fishing Harry the POV was most likely filmed early morning with an empty train so it will most likely run a bit faster during summer.

    • @deathrooster14
      @deathrooster14 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know right? What's the point of a launch coaster if it's launch is completely forceless.

    • @CarolinaPride95
      @CarolinaPride95 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      deathrooster14 the point of a launch is that you don’t need a lift hill, did I answer your dumb question? :D

  • @kenlife4840
    @kenlife4840 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got on it today smh 😂🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @Luv__788
    @Luv__788 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I passed out on this ride once 😐

  • @blockrocka225
    @blockrocka225 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really have to ask why both launches just go right into super slow, hangtime-heavy inversions. It seems foolish not to do a Cheetah Hunt kind of thing where they blast you up a small airtime hill before the inversions.

    • @jrax1713
      @jrax1713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it works personally the only major gripe I can see people having with this ride reasonably is the launches but that’s with every coaster by Mack rides the launches suck

    • @jrax1713
      @jrax1713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh and the restraints on this coaster tend to tighten with every hangtime and airtime moment so watch out for that otherwise really good ride

  • @deathandbananas2152
    @deathandbananas2152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I road this in the rain

  • @marycramer6663
    @marycramer6663 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i went on this ride, and passed out, and woke up upside down

  • @arrowjade3513
    @arrowjade3513 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was kinda boring, but it was really smooth and didn't knock you around any, so I suggest it

  • @TheBiggdogg73
    @TheBiggdogg73 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It has potential, but looks way too slow imo.

    • @markmoser7914
      @markmoser7914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The slower speed is actually the beauty of this ride. Not only do you get airtime off the hills, you actually get hang time off the inversions as the train slows down at the top of the loops. Well done ride!

    • @kenlife4840
      @kenlife4840 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheBiggdogg73 man I got in it today you gotta get on it waab it was fun and very fast

  • @darrenrobins6575
    @darrenrobins6575 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks like it going stall going through that first loop 🤔🤔🤔

  • @marco_1682
    @marco_1682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesus Christ loves y’all! Repent and trust in the Lord our God! Follow God’s law!

  • @owenwalms
    @owenwalms 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "most expensive addition ever"
    how does a mack launch coaster cost more than a b&m giga makes no sense haha

    • @Aatrains512
      @Aatrains512 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Owen Womsee theming

    • @taitondeboer366
      @taitondeboer366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because the pieces and parts are fabricated overseas and transportation is one of the biggest expenses the way they do it. Look at the time traveler. $26 million. If that ride was built by B&M, (not saying. Just to make a point) it wouldn’t be $26 million because there is a factory in the United States. The transportation costs would be cheaper. But since it is Mack, that price will be the usual on their newer coasters in the states.

    • @IntheLoopPodcast
      @IntheLoopPodcast  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think the “most expensive addition ever” line includes the new coaster AND the new hotel combined

    • @NewEnglandCoasterFan
      @NewEnglandCoasterFan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IntheLoopPodcast and the entire new area!

    • @spaceistheplace2293
      @spaceistheplace2293 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Owen Womsee the city of Charlotte also helped pay for Fury

  • @jayantonio5936
    @jayantonio5936 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems odd to have a launch coaster that doesn't go that fast and has hang time through the inversions. Why have the launches?

    • @JayAlfordElementJMusic
      @JayAlfordElementJMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That was the whole point of the ride. Not every launch coasters needs to be super balls to the wall intense/fast.

    • @jayantonio5936
      @jayantonio5936 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JayAlfordElementJMusic I guess so it's like slinky dog dash with inversions.

    • @RideAllNight5
      @RideAllNight5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jason Cedeno what did you just say? Can you say that again? Maybe say it out loud so you could hear yourself?

    • @JayAlfordElementJMusic
      @JayAlfordElementJMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jason Cedeno Uhhhh it’s nothing like the Slinky coaster dude. Stop.

    • @jayantonio5936
      @jayantonio5936 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RideAllNight5 it was a joke...same ride manufacturer and it is a launch coaster.

  • @thomasfreeman2382
    @thomasfreeman2382 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone who's ridden this: how does it compare to something like Manta at Sea World Sand Diego?

    • @icepyro1
      @icepyro1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You cant compare it, 2 completely different rides

  • @Jeff321
    @Jeff321 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    #WhatsInTheShed

  • @ethanroberts7544
    @ethanroberts7544 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it me or does this look identical to an Intamin launch coaster?

  • @sportindaveyg
    @sportindaveyg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    seems slow.

  • @deathrooster14
    @deathrooster14 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This looks like absolute garbage.

    • @SuicideSauceNoodles
      @SuicideSauceNoodles 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it dosent

    • @deathrooster14
      @deathrooster14 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuicideSauceNoodles To call this thing a launch coaster is an excuse to launch coasters.

    • @DCombz
      @DCombz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree that the launches aren't forceful but in no way does that make the rest of the ride garbage. If you say it's an insult to launch coasters for that reason you're basically calling Helix, Icon, and Blue Fire garbage and good luck holding that opinion.

    • @deathrooster14
      @deathrooster14 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DCombz And they're all Mack, and only one of those is any good. I don't understand what the point of calling something a launch coaster if it just gradually accelerates.

    • @DCombz
      @DCombz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deathrooster14 acceleration as a means of gaining enough speed to complete the track and its elements means it's a launched coaster, whether it's gradual or fast. This accomplishes that, and is more than just its launch. Also this is debatable but I think this is better than Icon and Blue Fire. Don't knock it just because one element doesn't please you. We all want another Maverick but it's just not going to happen until those new Intamins are built.

  • @_nickdamato_
    @_nickdamato_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hated this ride

  • @coasterelite4042
    @coasterelite4042 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not impressed. I want to see more rides like Maverick

    • @neo_thrillz1948
      @neo_thrillz1948 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How bout ride it before you judge it?

    • @loki3523
      @loki3523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, this is pretty similar to Maverick in a lot of ways.

    • @jrax1713
      @jrax1713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@loki3523 it’s more similar to cheetah hunt to me they’re about in the same league Good fun not super intense rides