Pond Aerator after 1 week
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- This is a quick video of my results of a Pond Plus aerator in my Farm Pond. This was purchased from Septic Solutions. The pump is a Hiblow HP 100LL
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Much respect for your kid diving into an alge filled pond.
Not algae though... that's the world's smallest flowering plant... water meal
I'm facing a similar situation with a 1/3 acre pond in a house we just moved into. The previous owner had just left it for a few years. I've got the aerators in, but as you've found out, they don't do anything directly with algae or with duckweed. What they do is feed the aerobic microbes that eat the excess nutrients in the water, both in the water column and on the bottom. Our pond looks a little better after 6 weeks, but is still pretty green. I'm looking into various bacteria products that I can add to help reduce the muck. It's July right now, and I'm expecting it to take until Spring to bring my pond back to full health. I never expected to have to learn this much about pond maintenance!
Patrick, this learning curve is steep! I appreciate your learning attitude, I’ve had many tell me what I was doing wrong and it looks like you have a great plan and patience. I have started using Flumigard to remove water meal and other algae issues. Duckweed seemed to leave with the water movement of the aerator. Hated using the herbicide, but after the kill happened, the aerator is doing a good job at keeping things clean. I also started to apply dye monthly
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm I live in Texas, and Texas A&M has county agricultural extensions that will come out and check your pond for free. They're often overbooked and it may take a while. They even offered to give us licenses for triploid (non-reproducing) carp to eat up all of the weeds. Not sure where you are at, but check out to see what expertise you can bring in for free. We brought in a commercial guy to check out our pond and give us advice on maintenance, erosion, and overflow to adjacent lake. He was a wealth of information as well.
That’s really awesome that those resources are there. I will look into these, thanks for the tips
Use some pond dye too to help reduce sunlight penetration into pond
Aeration is not going to get rid of vegetation in your pond. It will keep you from having a low oxygen crisis at night as that is when the plants pull O2 out of the water. You'll need an aquatic herbicide as you mentioned.
I installed a Hibow pump on my pond two years ago , one hose is wide open half inch , and i have two hoses that go through air stones with my bog filter { david Pagan butler } my water is crystal clear . Hiblow pumps are the cadillac of pumps . My pump has been running basically 24 7 for two years .... shut down for a few months when it iced over . Dont give up it works !!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the encouragement, I’m looking forward to see what happens this summer, even though I know pond cleaning I s a process and it takes time, I’m glad to hear of the longevity of the Hiblow pumps
My Hiblow pump has been in 1.5 years now with no improvement in algae control. Running 2 (100') lines for .75 acre pond (avg 8' deep). I was hoping the aerator would do the trick. I'm going to try copper sulfate next then maybe some pond dye last.
Copper sulfate (fine) & Aquashade dye. That’s the ticket. I have no aerator.
Hi, how big is your pond?
@annekeith4410 1/4 to 1/3 acre
I have the same exact one for a half acre pond and run it 24/7..works great and the fish love it
Thanks, how long have you been running this aerator?
No problem..Almost 6 months with no issues and a cheap electric bill lol
@Randy Kelley ,
Please check updated video @YoungbloodFamilyFarm. The pond is beautiful.
Cheers.
I would go with a skimmer dredge, it would pull the duck mill off the top, send it some where away from the pond, then let the water filter back to the pond, as well as the current system of the aerator.
I like the sound of this, I have just not been able to find a simple plan. Any that I find are complicated and expensive. I tried to build a floating boom out of a 100 foot long plastic deer net, worked for duckweed but not water meal. I’m certain it will take years to rid this stuff
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm I have the same issue with my small pond. this is why after a drain & dredge operation this summer I will be putting in a surface siphon system to clear the surface, pump the duck mill into my woods [for the critters to eat] & the water will drain back into my pond. But I have a 10-15 foot elevation change for drainage into my pond. So it is easy for the water to return back. You should look at some topographical maps of your property to see if this would work for you.
Ever thought about putting some grass carp in your pond? I have been told they do eat grass but not sure what kind. Still I would like to see the results of the aerator after one month to see how much difference there is.
Tim, yes I’ve looked into fish, still debating, just so not want to introduce another infestation
Yb Family Farm Triploid Grass carp are sterile and if bought from a licensed dealer won’t reproduce. I have 2 in my 1/2 acre pond and they live 10+ years.
Do grass carp bother swimming kids?
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm Not at all! They are skittish when small and dont bother my kids
@@TwigNTimberFishingOutdoors longer than 10 for sure, been at my house for 10 years andthe grass carp were 3ft when i moved in. Still going strong
run your aerator between midnight and one or two hours after dawn. you'll see much better results.
Best results are 24/7. If not running continuously then overnight is the preferred time.
I wonder how a trash pump would work? Just to move the water. Country View Acres has a video out also about his pond and weeds
Larry, I think I have watched every TH-cam video dealing with ponds, and pumps, Ha. I saw this video you speak about. I had to do a lot of math of purchase cost vs operating cost. And then is water movement enough or would the introduction of oxygen. So there you go, take care
Hey man, nice job. I have a pond that looks like yours and I am doing my research. One thing I have read is only have it on from say midnight to 8 am. Then late fall put it away for the winter. The theory is not to bring in the hotter water into your pond (or the super cold either). I watched this other guys video and he said his pond actually got worse while leaving the pump on 24/7.
The manufacturer of this pond kit says that this should run 24/7. Yes, it makes sense that more oxygen would cause more growth, however I need to make muck reduction the primary goal and watermeal/duckweed needs to be my secondary goal.
Get rid of muck and water meal follows...
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm you missed the point
Throw some koi in there..they love to eat duck weed!
Interesting
Curious on how this turns out, my uncles pond is about 3/4 the size of yours. He’s got 2 fountains in it to try and stir it up and his still looks like death, every once in a while he fills it with some chemical and it looks good for a few weeks but after that it’s right back to a green mess
Cade Scobey yes, this also looks like death. I have a pile of lily pads and cattails the size of a VW, trying to clean it out. How long has his fountain been going?
Yb Family Farm runs day and night usually, he’s had them for years
Would love a new update
August 2022 Pond update, Beach Build and Understanding Pond Bacteria
th-cam.com/video/_MREVXmqHSI/w-d-xo.html
Great video!!! But unfortunately an aerator will do absolutely zero for controlling duckweed and water meal. The movement caused by the aerator will simply push it towards the banks. Check out a product called SONAR but be prepared for sticker shock.
SONAR is the only product that I've heard of that can kick the crap out of water meal (which is extremely tough).
My buddy had the same issues as you and SONAR made it crystal clear about 3 weeks after he applied it.
Do your research as you may be better off to wait until next spring. Not sure how your winters are where you live.
Looking forward to hearing about your solution. Good luck!
Thank you Taylor for your input and more importantly for the link to that resource video. I appreciate your help!
Hey bud need to tie boat to dock put small engine on it and run it in gear for 2 hrs move ghe water and aerator will work better or drive boat around pond because duck weed thick needs to be broke up
Works
Thanks
Build you a big pond skimmer or two that sucks all the floating crap in and catches it into a removable basket.
Id love an update!
You bet, I have also made a 1 year and a 2 year update video. 2 Year Review Hiblow HP-100ll Septic Pump - Pond Aerator
th-cam.com/video/IDFkSnL1nrU/w-d-xo.html
I plan to make the 3 year update video this coming week when the new air filter arrives
I just bought 1 just like yours the directions are vague is there video how to put it together?
My aerator came mounted to the base (in the video). It also came t with all the PVC work all done ahead of time, sorry not much help there
grass carp will eat that vegetation and are genetically modified to not procreate, they can live about ten years. 3-5 grass carp would do a number on your weeds.
install a backflow valve behind your diffuser to prevent water filling your airline.
irrigation hose or garden hose with some lengths of chain ziptied to it would move air. a small bag of concrete could be worked into little ingots and then attached to sink a hose.
you could seine most of that weed with a fine mesh net or even a low thread count bed sheet in a couple hours.
you might want to reinstall the diffuser to the deepest point of the pond - that is the most efficient use of the aerator
Thanks so much, these are great ideas, I tried skimming the pond with a 100 ft plastic deer net, it worked for the duck weed not the water meal, I like the sheet idea. I will look into grass carp
If you built an intake bay it would pull all of your duck weed and other waste on top of the water into the bay than you would be able to scoop it out with a net. You would have than a clean pond. It works.
Great idea, however I have a small spring in the pond and mostly rainfall collection with no outlet, but you my brain turning, thanks
Youngblood family farm. I recently bought a house with a pond that looks exactly like this.. I have put a fountain an aerator I’ve used algaecide I’ve tried everything and nothing gets rid of it.. did you have any success I see you said flumigard did that keep the water algae free?
I did use Flumigard and Alagare 90 (surfactant). th-cam.com/video/t9pR2A5ki78/w-d-xo.html
This is a link for Amazon in the description of this video. This is a herbicide and Alagaecide, it does a good job of cleaning the surface. I have found the surface continues to stay clean but I continue to work on muck using bacteria and running that aerator. You are doing good!
You are not going to stop life if there are sufficient sunlight and nutrients, period. Get rid of as much of the organic material as possible, and get as many plants, lillys, etc in there to compete with algae. Get some algae grazers as well, and some pond dye.
Chemicals are a temp solution that will bounce back with a mega-boom unless you address either sunlight, available nutrients, etc.
Spray and dye
Try using some coper sulphate crystals.
It is my understanding that copper work well to eliminate algae, however it is not effective against watermeal, I will continue my research, thanks for your suggestion
Will running the aerator in the spring time stop the duck weed growing in the first place?
Duck weed definitely does not like movement, fast forward I have resolved my duckweed issue, I have others with my pond now
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm i feel your pain bro... me too, brown algae and losing water with way too many fish in there.
Putting a herbicide in may kill the duck weed but the dead duck weed will become nutrients for other weeds. You need to add loads and loads of plants!
You may be right, it seems that whenever one adds any outside influence there will definitely be a reaction, I think perfect balance is near impossible. I completely agree there is no silver bullet. Thanks for your input
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm i was told that natural ponds have a 7-8 year cycle were naturally they die unless very deep and constantly filled with water. To beat this every 3-4yrs at least 50% should be dredged. Large fast growing plants like water iris (reads and rushes) as said before. Im not a fan of dying the water but is does cut the photosynthesis. You could add a couple more aerators too!
try Oase Biotec screenmatic, you'll get your pond a crystal water like and no need of Koi fishes.
Does.it work.for a pond that is almost a acre and 20 feet deep?
Hello, I have the same problem, my pond looks like yours but its about 70' W x 130' L. I live in Texas and was approved for the Triploid carp in which i bought 5 and haven't seen a difference. Although i have read that they are a long term solution. I bought the Hiblow 100LL after seeing other videos and ran two diffusers but after a few weeks i cant really see any difference. So do i run it 24/7 do I run it from midnight until a couple hours after sunrise? Some say yes others say no, I am tired of my pond being an eye sore. Can anyone give me any suggestions or am i just being impatient?
I found the aerator created movement and rotation in my pond, I was able to see the duckweed and watermeal move about. However, I ended up using Flumigard (herbicide) with Alegare 90 (surfactant). And put them in a sprayer. I also have been deligent at removing vegetation, keeping grass clippings out, and really any fertilizer type item. I have kept pond dye in the pond routinely as well as pond bacteria. I know it’s a lot, but worth it. And it takes time, lots of time
Duckweed 🤔 duckweed 🧐 I wonder if there is an animal that eats that, an elephant 🐘 maybe 😋… eggs 🥚 meat, warmth and entertainment in one package 😁
Thanks for the helpful tip
My geese and ducks cleared all my pond grass in one season
Would love to know more. What kind of ducks and geese? If I buy some, will they stay? Or will they fly away?
This is really sad. I've got a 50' pond, nowhere near as bad as yours.
Gotta say, would it kill you to go out some Sat morning with one of those pool pole skimmers and actually pull out a lot of that algae on the top?
Or get some fine netting w/100' of rope and sting it across and you and a friend walk along opposite sides of the pond to clear it up a bit.
Why would you think adding O2 is going to decrease algae?
Did you try a google search?
1. Get in there and remove as much algae as you can.
Letting algae grow, then die and sink to the bottom creates perfect storm for future algae blooms.
2. Get some pond dye, which will decrease the amount of sunlight penetrating the pond, which reduces algae
3. Look up Barley Straw
4. Stock your pond with some algae grazers
5. Run physical filtration or UV
6. Try get a couple of moderate wattage water pumps to get the water moving vs bubbling air.
Thanks for your encouragement, it means the world! In all seriousness I have exhausted many options and regional options, this is my latest video th-cam.com/video/Txj0aAPdxco/w-d-xo.html
A couple years later, yes I was aware the oxygen was not going to fix all, but it is key to balance. I also skimmed for hours, ultimately a herbicide took care of surface and bacteria and myself have been removing the muck
👏👌
Get koi. They will kick the crap out of your duck weed. Way better than grass carp.
Thanks
Correction. Skip to 1:16:00.
Get ducks. Kids would love them too.
I imagine they do a nice job of moving water as well, great idea!
Buy a couple big male carp they will eat it all and males so they don't breed . . . A friend of mine does this for ponds he manages it 100% works they eat it fast if get 2-4
Your gonna regret not doing it sooner i promise
Without measuring the oxygen levels not sure where you are.
There’s a lot of things I wish I would have measured and taken better notes of in their pond journey
You need grass carp
Thank you, do you have them?
Put fish in there they'll eat the duckweed
Thanks
Way fixable.....
1st you need to use a pool net and manually skim every day for about a week. The kids would probably do 90%
2nd....
You need to use the same pump but with 4 heads. Put a 90° pvc turn on the top so the water flow isn't going straight up and out in all 360°. Instead have it coming out "directionally". Point all 4 heads in a manner so the water is traveling clock wise in a circular direction.... or counter clockwise....
but also slightly angled towards shore. Then the future net scooping from shore is SUPER easy and required way less frequently, if at all.....
Literally..... one week and all you'll have are those floating water hyacinths.... which can overtake a waterway too. But....They're also easy to remove..... especially if you have a small jon boat or are willing to enter the water.... a tire tub would be effective. But those water hyacinths provide a lot of water shade... A 6' boarder around the shoreline, except your entry point, would be very healthy for your pond.... even keeping them THICK on the far side.
Nice pond... I hope you turn it into a recreational playground.....slash water garden.
Thanks for the tips, especially the water hyacinths, any idea how they do when things freeze?
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm
Depends on the "freeze".
I grew up in north Florida. It never froze hard enough to kill.... maybe brown some tops but the water was always above 45 to 50 degrees. Now.... North of Atlanta??? IDK.
Closer to the coast ..... Myrtle Beach??? Probably fine. I swear it looks like the exact same lake. Obviously not. But my nephew just bought a lake. Same size.... 75yards x 100 yrads...with those same 1 mm floating plants that blanket the surface. I used a minnow "dip net" and pulled out an area 6'x6' in 3 minutes. Just swiping and shaking it onto the bank. With a 10' pole and a pool leaf skimmer net..... I/You could sweep off A LOT in one hour. Every day you do that..... Then that solo bubbler will start moving the plants from out there towards the area you removed plants over night. Keep repeating..... You'll make progress. In this clip..... They have nowhere to go. That bubbler is TRYING to move surface floating plants until there's a "trafic jam".... Remove plants and let that bubbler move what's in the middle to the bank.... and who cares about the far side. It actually looks more "natural" with it. It's only the close side and out to your floating dock that counts.
Good luck.
Yes, you can use multiple air stones/diffuser to create water movement. Gotta get on top of that organic matter.
th-cam.com/video/JSdc_CXYFNo/w-d-xo.html
Here is a link to the recent video about managing pond vegetation that my great state of KY put out.
The entire video is loaded with usable data. Skip to 1:16 to hear about what you're dealing with and solution options.