I've practiced Wing Chun for more than a decade and in my experience, only dedicated, long-term practitioners ever achieve anything remotely like what you seem to have demonstrated. This stuff takes years of consistent practice I think. Thanks for the video.
That's awesome that you have put so much dedication into your training. You must really enjoy it a lot! And you are right that it is the long term, dedicated practitioners that achieve the most extraordinary success. And when we dedicate ourselves, truly dedicate ourselves to doing what is the most beneficial, and beyond that as we let go of what is holding us back, we sometimes experience surprisingly transformative changes. The video is a quick overview. But as you really dive into the idea of releasing tension, and pursue the feeling of experiencing the flow of energy and the natural movement that Surfs on that energy, you may begin to discover something new. It's subtle, but not necessarily difficult. And if you follow that subtle clue your body gives you, you can experience growth that is hopefully faster than you expect. Thank you for the comment and I wish you the best on your training. Comment any time if you have any other thoughts or questions!
Super interesting, thanks for the great video! I would also be very interested to know how you throw a fajin punch? Where does the movement start from (Kua?) and is there a so-called wind-up? I really appreciate your valuable input!
There are 3 levels of fajing Mingjin: apparent force. Anjing: hidden force. And Huajin: transparent force. At the level of Mingjin, the force comes from the elastic stretch and release of your tendons and contractile tissue. It's like drawing a bow and releasing. The wind up is the drawing of these bows. The Kua is one such bow. The spine is another popularly used one. Specifically, some parts of your body become firm like the bow, some parts are pulling like the hand that draws the bow, and other parts stretch like the bowstring. Some examples of bow drawing Fajin would be a baseball pitch, a football throw, and other similar activities where we concentrate a lot of elastic power into a target. In Anjin, there is no longer an externally visible drawing of the bows. Depending on the style, you may draw the bows internally, or you may not be drawing bows at all. In Yang Family Tai Chi, Anjing is the result of letting our momentum flow through our body, facilitated by Song, so that it's fast, heavy, and spontaneous. Check out our Song Mastery videos for demonstrations of this! Thanks for asking about this topic, does that make sense for you? I plan to release a Fajin course after finishing releasing all 5 of the Mastery courses. So if you're excited about this topic, stay tuned! 😃
@@phoenixmountaintaichi Wow, thank you very much for this super profound answer. You are a fantastic teacher! I'm very excitet about this topic, so of course I will stayed tuned!😃
Long ago, when I was studying, we did an exercise that we called punching. We punched straight forward, upwards, to the sides, and downwards, both hands at once, although punching forwards might be done one hand at a time. Although called punching, it wasn't really a punch. It was very relaxed and, ideally, there would be a snapping sound from your hand. In the easier form (for me), the movement ended in a relaxed fist. It was like the motion all condensed together into a snap as the fist came together. In the other form, the motion ended in just a flat hand, fingers together, gently extended, but again with a snap. It is the hand that is snapping, not clothing. We never talked much about what this exercise was for. The teacher showed us, we did it, and we just experienced what happened. I always thought it was to teach us speed and to relax because it seemed, if there is tension, there's no snap. Looking at your lesson, I suspect that this punching exercise relates to what you are teaching here. Does it seem like it might be?
It certainly seems like it is related in the manner you are considering. There are many ways to approach developing these qualities in ourselves, and it's very interestnig to hear about yours! Thank you for sharing. As you seek a deeper level of relaxation through these movements, you will surely discover more profound levels of skills. Cheers!
Thanks you for your thoughtful & thought provoking videos! I am wondering if this is related to the concept of “9 joint harmony” (if you have heard of that) or is this something completely different?
I am not familiar with that specific terminology, but you do want to relax until all the joints are transparent. And if those 9 joints are wrist, elbow, shoulder, ankle, knee, hips, neck, back, waist, or something to that effect, then yes it greatly benefits from, and promotes, joint harmony and relaxation!
Having practiced Yang lu chan 's form of yang taiji for almost 40 years, I feel I can testify to the health and martial benefits of this form to some extent at least ,and, having said that, I've watched a number of Phoenix mountain videos as the subject of fajing interests me as well as the many applications of taiji forms, not that the Phoenix Mt, teacher is teaching old style yang Taiji. I'm 70 years old and have also had lots of experience boxing in my younger days and it is ,with some consternation I have to say that this teacher like many these days is in la la land if what he's showing these people remotely resembles the explosive power of Fajing. It's easy to criticize and I'm sure he's well intentioned with it all but a lot of his videos are just nonsense in regard to internal and external energy. I'm not saying that Yang Lu Chan is the best and only way to practice Taiji there are many credited martial art styles but if Phoenix Mountain is your foundation then I'll guarantee you the building will collapse.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment and thank you for saying that I am well intentioned, and in lala land haha. After several decades of practicing tai chi, I had almost despaired of ever reproducing the skills in the stories told of the great Yang Luchan. But one day the teachings started to make sense beyond what my mind had previously thought of them. I started to realize the meaning that was not apparent. And if you know your Yang Tai Chi history, you'll understand that the Yang family kept a lot of the teaching unsaid. I was excited for the new understanding and rising above my prior plateau. And it is in this lala land beyond my prior limit that I excitedly share some of my thoughts and experience. Like you, I enjoy martial art combatives a lot. You're right in that a combative experience develops a strategic mind and the type of keen reasoning to guide our training. Your comment reminds me of an experience I had about that. My first Tai Chi teacher brought me on this decades long journey of Tai Chi. He exhibited many amazing skills. But, at that time, I certainly did not haha. I loved him, and Tai Chi, and practiced at least an hour each day. I had wondered also if whether we were all deluded, or if some important teaching was not being told to me. I didn't quit but I perhaps had put the Tai Chi project on the back burner. I seemed out another teacher, famous for his Tai Chi, Xingyi, and Bagua, but also famous for his training and coaching to compete in modern martial art sports such as grappling, and MMA. He welcomed people to come and experience it first hand so I went. I loved it, the pragmatic, combat focused methods. I thought this will take me to where I can realistically get to. And it did but not in the way I expected. One day, he was asking me about my background and I told him and he was shocked to hear I trained Tai Chi with my teacher. He said don't give up with that teacher and I said why? He said this: "When I was first opening up my school I had gone ground to kindly greet all the martial arts teachers in the area. I met your teacher in the same way. In our talk we came to show some of our own skills. He said there's more to it than I had attained. And he asked me to really punch him and he'd show me. So I did, and when his arm touched my punch, I found myself suddenly lifted into the air and falling down onto my back. To this day I don't understand how he did that, but he was the one teacher here in the states that showed that remarkable skill." So now I am in a funny situation where the teacher who I had impressed me with his practical, real skill is telling me that my first teacher is the teacher that impressed him! But it motivated me to continue studying with both of them and I thank him both for his teachings and for keeping me on that original path. After some decades more, with a mix of a lot of experimentation, a lot of reading, a lot of reflecting on the teachings of various matters I have arrived at last to a wonderful land. Given the journey, I don't expect that people will immediately believe what they see, and certainly not immediately build a house. But just as my combative teacher did for me, maybe it will plant a seed that keeps us thinking a little bit, keep us training a little longer, help us experiment in ways that were not immediately apparent, and from this seed to spread roots and grow into something real, but worthy of lala land intentions. Because we who love tai chi, we started down this road because it sounded, in one way or another, absolutely fantastic, didn't we? Thank you for your comment again and really thank you if you read this long comment of mine. I had just woken up, saw your comment, and it had put me in a particularly reflective and talkative mood. Enjoy your day and your training!
Yes you may have noticed that there's really no apparent way that this makes sense, and you'd be right to realize that there can be something that's not immediately apparent to what we're doing. How many times have you experienced discovering something not immediately apparent in your life, something wonderful, in any martial arts or in anything else? When I was young and my teacher taught me, initially I was not making much progress. I thought maybe he was holding back some important secret. I thought maybe I needed to learn from other martial arts or different teachers. So I studied Xingyi and muay thai and more and it did improve my power but I never did accomplish what my teacher had showed me. But one day, when I stopped worrying about my power, I started to notice some change in the effect of my techniques. And overtime I became more and more able to do what he did. Finally, I realized that what changed in me wasn't some technique or muscle mass, but a certain mentality or perspective that allowed me to grow and transform in a subtle, yet profound way. And that's what I'd like to share now even though I do realize I may sound as overly simplistic as my teacher did. But I do hope people can make progress that is meaningful to themselves. So I do appreciate your comment. You have a pragmatic view and we benefit a lot from that in training and in life. Thank you for watching the video.
She's pushing or sinking into the ground constantly. Practicing these arts you learn to do that and synchronize every bit of your structure to be in harmony with the downward force of gravity, doing this enough times makes it feel like you can feel the ground up to 3 to 5 ft beneath you and then you simply leverage your other movements off of this consistent downward focus. It's weird at first but makes sense after a while, it's as if everything else is a secondary focus after the sinking into the ground focus point.
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I've practiced Wing Chun for more than a decade and in my experience, only dedicated, long-term practitioners ever achieve anything remotely like what you seem to have demonstrated. This stuff takes years of consistent practice I think.
Thanks for the video.
That's awesome that you have put so much dedication into your training. You must really enjoy it a lot! And you are right that it is the long term, dedicated practitioners that achieve the most extraordinary success.
And when we dedicate ourselves, truly dedicate ourselves to doing what is the most beneficial, and beyond that as we let go of what is holding us back, we sometimes experience surprisingly transformative changes.
The video is a quick overview. But as you really dive into the idea of releasing tension, and pursue the feeling of experiencing the flow of energy and the natural movement that Surfs on that energy, you may begin to discover something new. It's subtle, but not necessarily difficult. And if you follow that subtle clue your body gives you, you can experience growth that is hopefully faster than you expect. Thank you for the comment and I wish you the best on your training. Comment any time if you have any other thoughts or questions!
@@phoenixmountaintaichi Great reply. Thank you for taking the time.
@@Geekman333 cheers!
Super interesting, thanks for the great video!
I would also be very interested to know how you throw a fajin punch? Where does the movement start from (Kua?) and is there a so-called wind-up?
I really appreciate your valuable input!
There are 3 levels of fajing Mingjin: apparent force. Anjing: hidden force. And Huajin: transparent force.
At the level of Mingjin, the force comes from the elastic stretch and release of your tendons and contractile tissue. It's like drawing a bow and releasing. The wind up is the drawing of these bows. The Kua is one such bow. The spine is another popularly used one. Specifically, some parts of your body become firm like the bow, some parts are pulling like the hand that draws the bow, and other parts stretch like the bowstring. Some examples of bow drawing Fajin would be a baseball pitch, a football throw, and other similar activities where we concentrate a lot of elastic power into a target.
In Anjin, there is no longer an externally visible drawing of the bows. Depending on the style, you may draw the bows internally, or you may not be drawing bows at all. In Yang Family Tai Chi, Anjing is the result of letting our momentum flow through our body, facilitated by Song, so that it's fast, heavy, and spontaneous. Check out our Song Mastery videos for demonstrations of this!
Thanks for asking about this topic, does that make sense for you? I plan to release a Fajin course after finishing releasing all 5 of the Mastery courses. So if you're excited about this topic, stay tuned! 😃
@@phoenixmountaintaichi Wow, thank you very much for this super profound answer. You are a fantastic teacher! I'm very excitet about this topic, so of course I will stayed tuned!😃
@@nicoleberger6942Thank you! I'm happy to help you and everyone understand. 😃
Long ago, when I was studying, we did an exercise that we called punching. We punched straight forward, upwards, to the sides, and downwards, both hands at once, although punching forwards might be done one hand at a time. Although called punching, it wasn't really a punch. It was very relaxed and, ideally, there would be a snapping sound from your hand. In the easier form (for me), the movement ended in a relaxed fist. It was like the motion all condensed together into a snap as the fist came together. In the other form, the motion ended in just a flat hand, fingers together, gently extended, but again with a snap. It is the hand that is snapping, not clothing.
We never talked much about what this exercise was for. The teacher showed us, we did it, and we just experienced what happened. I always thought it was to teach us speed and to relax because it seemed, if there is tension, there's no snap.
Looking at your lesson, I suspect that this punching exercise relates to what you are teaching here. Does it seem like it might be?
It certainly seems like it is related in the manner you are considering. There are many ways to approach developing these qualities in ourselves, and it's very interestnig to hear about yours! Thank you for sharing. As you seek a deeper level of relaxation through these movements, you will surely discover more profound levels of skills. Cheers!
Thanks you for your thoughtful & thought provoking videos! I am wondering if this is related to the concept of “9 joint harmony” (if you have heard of that) or is this something completely different?
I am not familiar with that specific terminology, but you do want to relax until all the joints are transparent. And if those 9 joints are wrist, elbow, shoulder, ankle, knee, hips, neck, back, waist, or something to that effect, then yes it greatly benefits from, and promotes, joint harmony and relaxation!
Having practiced Yang lu chan 's form of yang taiji for almost 40 years, I feel I can testify to the health and martial benefits of this form to some extent at least ,and, having said that, I've watched a number of Phoenix mountain videos as the subject of fajing interests me as well as the many applications of taiji forms, not that the Phoenix Mt, teacher is teaching old style yang Taiji. I'm 70 years old and have also had lots of experience boxing in my younger days and it is ,with some consternation I have to say that this teacher like many these days is in la la land if what he's showing these people remotely resembles the explosive power of Fajing. It's easy to criticize and I'm sure he's well intentioned with it all but a lot of his videos are just nonsense in regard to internal and external energy. I'm not saying that Yang Lu Chan is the best and only way to practice Taiji there are many credited martial art styles but if Phoenix Mountain is your foundation then I'll guarantee you the building will collapse.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment and thank you for saying that I am well intentioned, and in lala land haha. After several decades of practicing tai chi, I had almost despaired of ever reproducing the skills in the stories told of the great Yang Luchan. But one day the teachings started to make sense beyond what my mind had previously thought of them. I started to realize the meaning that was not apparent. And if you know your Yang Tai Chi history, you'll understand that the Yang family kept a lot of the teaching unsaid. I was excited for the new understanding and rising above my prior plateau. And it is in this lala land beyond my prior limit that I excitedly share some of my thoughts and experience.
Like you, I enjoy martial art combatives a lot. You're right in that a combative experience develops a strategic mind and the type of keen reasoning to guide our training. Your comment reminds me of an experience I had about that.
My first Tai Chi teacher brought me on this decades long journey of Tai Chi. He exhibited many amazing skills. But, at that time, I certainly did not haha. I loved him, and Tai Chi, and practiced at least an hour each day. I had wondered also if whether we were all deluded, or if some important teaching was not being told to me. I didn't quit but I perhaps had put the Tai Chi project on the back burner. I seemed out another teacher, famous for his Tai Chi, Xingyi, and Bagua, but also famous for his training and coaching to compete in modern martial art sports such as grappling, and MMA. He welcomed people to come and experience it first hand so I went. I loved it, the pragmatic, combat focused methods. I thought this will take me to where I can realistically get to. And it did but not in the way I expected. One day, he was asking me about my background and I told him and he was shocked to hear I trained Tai Chi with my teacher. He said don't give up with that teacher and I said why? He said this:
"When I was first opening up my school I had gone ground to kindly greet all the martial arts teachers in the area. I met your teacher in the same way. In our talk we came to show some of our own skills. He said there's more to it than I had attained. And he asked me to really punch him and he'd show me. So I did, and when his arm touched my punch, I found myself suddenly lifted into the air and falling down onto my back. To this day I don't understand how he did that, but he was the one teacher here in the states that showed that remarkable skill."
So now I am in a funny situation where the teacher who I had impressed me with his practical, real skill is telling me that my first teacher is the teacher that impressed him! But it motivated me to continue studying with both of them and I thank him both for his teachings and for keeping me on that original path.
After some decades more, with a mix of a lot of experimentation, a lot of reading, a lot of reflecting on the teachings of various matters I have arrived at last to a wonderful land. Given the journey, I don't expect that people will immediately believe what they see, and certainly not immediately build a house. But just as my combative teacher did for me, maybe it will plant a seed that keeps us thinking a little bit, keep us training a little longer, help us experiment in ways that were not immediately apparent, and from this seed to spread roots and grow into something real, but worthy of lala land intentions. Because we who love tai chi, we started down this road because it sounded, in one way or another, absolutely fantastic, didn't we?
Thank you for your comment again and really thank you if you read this long comment of mine. I had just woken up, saw your comment, and it had put me in a particularly reflective and talkative mood. Enjoy your day and your training!
Záväzok modrých, áno, a prečo ste museli odstúpiť? Lebo ste boli závislí nielen na dobrých ľudí., alebo nie?
Awful lot of physical effort by her in the demos.
I call BS
Yes you may have noticed that there's really no apparent way that this makes sense, and you'd be right to realize that there can be something that's not immediately apparent to what we're doing. How many times have you experienced discovering something not immediately apparent in your life, something wonderful, in any martial arts or in anything else?
When I was young and my teacher taught me, initially I was not making much progress. I thought maybe he was holding back some important secret. I thought maybe I needed to learn from other martial arts or different teachers. So I studied Xingyi and muay thai and more and it did improve my power but I never did accomplish what my teacher had showed me.
But one day, when I stopped worrying about my power, I started to notice some change in the effect of my techniques. And overtime I became more and more able to do what he did. Finally, I realized that what changed in me wasn't some technique or muscle mass, but a certain mentality or perspective that allowed me to grow and transform in a subtle, yet profound way.
And that's what I'd like to share now even though I do realize I may sound as overly simplistic as my teacher did. But I do hope people can make progress that is meaningful to themselves.
So I do appreciate your comment. You have a pragmatic view and we benefit a lot from that in training and in life. Thank you for watching the video.
She's pushing or sinking into the ground constantly. Practicing these arts you learn to do that and synchronize every bit of your structure to be in harmony with the downward force of gravity, doing this enough times makes it feel like you can feel the ground up to 3 to 5 ft beneath you and then you simply leverage your other movements off of this consistent downward focus. It's weird at first but makes sense after a while, it's as if everything else is a secondary focus after the sinking into the ground focus point.