The lady the one doing the interview she's so great she's just sitting there listening and that is the only thing she needs to do and when the conversation is coming to her she ask another question and she listens she's so great at what she does because that's what it takes to do that
But people may not find her in the top 10 most intelligent people in the world because of what she's interested in in that science physics etc her interests are into something else that are needed in this world and that is good
What a delight to hear Dr. Renzulli summarize his numerous contributions to education. I was very lucky to have been a work-study student in Dr. Renzulli’s office in 1972 and 1973 when I was an undergraduate at the University of Connecticut. He took his work-study students to a G&T conference in NYC. I have never forgotten it. I participated in the 2012 Confratute at UConn and enjoyed it enormously. I work at a community college, so I don’t interact with young children, but Dr. Renzulli’s teaching philosophy and methods are relevant in that setting too. Thank you.
Being gifted DOES equal IQ, and it is a genetic mutation of accelerated capacity that is just as significant and real as being developmentally slowed. What it DOESN’T mean, is superiority over other humans, any more than being mentally slow equates with inferiority to other humans. It doesn’t. The problem this guy has, is that he sees giftedness as a matter of achievement, or potential for accomplishment (or worse, fame), not as a way of BEING in the world, that comes with a serious cost as well. In America (where we’ve confused a right to equal opportunity at birth with equal capacity at birth) we’re almost in a state of denial that genius even exists, but are completely ready to buy that mental retardation exists. Why? If the one mutation is possible, so is the other. The truth is, BOTH groups are developmentally challenged, but those who are accelerated rather than slowed, only receive conscious leadership and friendship, IF they prove to have a high ROI for society at large. For the developmentally slowed, all the love is unconditional. For the develop accelerated, all the love is conditional. They’re only valued as humans, IF they achieve OTHER people’s goals. But as Albert Camus said, “An achievement is a bondage. it obliges one to a higher achievement.” This pattern of high expectations is unrelenting, and totally unforgiving. Compassion and assistance for the gifted shouldn’t be conditional, based upon hitting some externally decided accomplishment milestone.
Interesting he emphasises creativity so much. It’s sad that most formal education systems suck all creativity out of us while attempting to make us smarter
I asked my daughters school what they thought gifted was…l didn’t want her simple accelerated because she was advanced (early self learner) because she’s a perfectionist (like mom). l didn’t want that academic pressure added since she learns on own anyway. I asked whether gifted program focused on creativity and they went silent. When l was out in a gifted program, it was purely about creative intelligence and the program was focused on creative thinking. I am worried that’s not the case these days.
@@IngeniousBaby the difficulty here is they’re unaffordable for many. Resources, unique curriculum and highly qualified teachers cost money 💵 it would be nice to have more affordable options eventually
This man in the video obviously he was interested in going deep into intelligence to be able to explain it so he is very good at whatever he does is very simple he had an extreme interest and willingness
This is the first time I've seen this video. Utterly fascinating, and a different approach to defining giftedness than I've seen before (possibly because I haven't researched giftedness very much!). My 8yo son has hypernumeracy and hyperlexia, and he has solved math problems in different and interesting ways for some years now. He is currently very interested in how many combinations of license plate numbers might exist in our province. Whether by learning it elsewhere or on his own, he's discovered the relationship between multiplication and discovering how many combinations are possible. In a test of his IQ (admittedly done quite early -- he was just shy of six), he scored just shy of gifted, but I have always thought him to be so. Gifted is as gifted does, right? Unfortunately, he is jaded by math in school.
Thank you so much for your comment! Your son sounds like a very bright young man! Yes, IQ tests are not always completely accurate so you might want to consider testing him again. However, the most important thing is that you continue to nurture him and his abilities regardless of any "label" testing will place upon him.
I have a gifted kid. Her teachers say that she has struggles leaving activities because she gets so into everything and fights switching activities…public school is a constant shift every 15 minutes. Any advice?
I tested as profoundly gifted in kindergarten. After a lifetime enduring hatred, alienation, and jealousy (with no help or support,) now I mostly just want to die. 56 years of this hell is enough.
I'm deeply sorry to hear of your struggles. It's important to know you're not alone and support is available. Please consider reaching out to a mental health professional or a helpline for the care you deserve. Your experiences matter, and there are people ready to help you through this.
To really shine on something a person must have an extreme interest and willingness it could have a very poor IQ but on that they're extremely high genius high
@@IngeniousBaby misguided desire based on his misunderstanding I'm sure. Non gifted kids can't learn in the same manner as gifted kids, so using the same approach would likely fail. In general deriving an approach using a special case then expanding to a general case makes no sense. You would think one of his gifted students would explain that simple concept to him. If he'd use a scientific approach or anything close to it, he would very quickly see his error. Instead he's making up arguments to support his opinions based on nonsense (historical estimate of an iq which the person estimating then judges... no bias there I'm sure lol). How is he normalizing for the flyn effect or coming up with a baseline.
Also ppl are born gifted. I dont see how that's debatable at this point. But if he doubts I can introduce him to a bunch, as they're pretty common in my family.
@𝕾𝖙𝖗𝖎𝖛𝖊𝖗 - مُصْلِح take anyone's iq at anytime throughout their life and the results will be correlated at about 0.9. There's also literature looking at twins and family members showing genetic links to intelligence. If you've ever raised a kid you'd also notice it almost instantly, that some are smarter than others. Very high correlation with achievements at an early age (e.g., a 6 month old that's talking and the odds of them being gifted).
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The lady the one doing the interview she's so great she's just sitting there listening and that is the only thing she needs to do and when the conversation is coming to her she ask another question and she listens she's so great at what she does because that's what it takes to do that
Both people in this video are extremely great at what they do
But people may not find her in the top 10 most intelligent people in the world because of what she's interested in in that science physics etc her interests are into something else that are needed in this world and that is good
Whoever reads this continue doing whatever you do that you are worthy to be admired that is correct
Thanks for the compliment Joe!
What a delight to hear Dr. Renzulli summarize his numerous contributions to education. I was very lucky to have been a work-study student in Dr. Renzulli’s office in 1972 and 1973 when I was an undergraduate at the University of Connecticut. He took his work-study students to a G&T conference in NYC. I have never forgotten it. I participated in the 2012 Confratute at UConn and enjoyed it enormously. I work at a community college, so I don’t interact with young children, but Dr. Renzulli’s teaching philosophy and methods are relevant in that setting too. Thank you.
Hi can i ask some questions
Thank you for your thoughtful response! Yes, he is so insightful and glad a wider audience can benefit from his work!
@cheMay What is your question?
What is your question?
Being gifted DOES equal IQ, and it is a genetic mutation of accelerated capacity that is just as significant and real as being developmentally slowed. What it DOESN’T mean, is superiority over other humans, any more than being mentally slow equates with inferiority to other humans. It doesn’t.
The problem this guy has, is that he sees giftedness as a matter of achievement, or potential for accomplishment (or worse, fame), not as a way of BEING in the world, that comes with a serious cost as well.
In America (where we’ve confused a right to equal opportunity at birth with equal capacity at birth) we’re almost in a state of denial that genius even exists, but are completely ready to buy that mental retardation exists.
Why? If the one mutation is possible, so is the other.
The truth is, BOTH groups are developmentally challenged, but those who are accelerated rather than slowed, only receive conscious leadership and friendship, IF they prove to have a high ROI for society at large.
For the developmentally slowed, all the love is unconditional. For the develop accelerated, all the love is conditional. They’re only valued as humans, IF they achieve OTHER people’s goals.
But as Albert Camus said, “An achievement is a bondage. it obliges one to a higher achievement.” This pattern of high expectations is unrelenting, and totally unforgiving.
Compassion and assistance for the gifted shouldn’t be conditional, based upon hitting some externally decided accomplishment milestone.
So well said!!
Interesting he emphasises creativity so much. It’s sad that most formal education systems suck all creativity out of us while attempting to make us smarter
Agree. Luckily today there are many more schools with a progressive approach
I asked my daughters school what they thought gifted was…l didn’t want her simple accelerated because she was advanced (early self learner) because she’s a perfectionist (like mom). l didn’t want that academic pressure added since she learns on own anyway. I asked whether gifted program focused on creativity and they went silent. When l was out in a gifted program, it was purely about creative intelligence and the program was focused on creative thinking. I am worried that’s not the case these days.
@@IngeniousBaby the difficulty here is they’re unaffordable for many. Resources, unique curriculum and highly qualified teachers cost money 💵 it would be nice to have more affordable options eventually
This man in the video obviously he was interested in going deep into intelligence to be able to explain it so he is very good at whatever he does is very simple he had an extreme interest and willingness
This is the first time I've seen this video. Utterly fascinating, and a different approach to defining giftedness than I've seen before (possibly because I haven't researched giftedness very much!). My 8yo son has hypernumeracy and hyperlexia, and he has solved math problems in different and interesting ways for some years now. He is currently very interested in how many combinations of license plate numbers might exist in our province. Whether by learning it elsewhere or on his own, he's discovered the relationship between multiplication and discovering how many combinations are possible. In a test of his IQ (admittedly done quite early -- he was just shy of six), he scored just shy of gifted, but I have always thought him to be so. Gifted is as gifted does, right?
Unfortunately, he is jaded by math in school.
Thank you so much for your comment! Your son sounds like a very bright young man! Yes, IQ tests are not always completely accurate so you might want to consider testing him again. However, the most important thing is that you continue to nurture him and his abilities regardless of any "label" testing will place upon him.
@courierdubois you might also find this video interesting: th-cam.com/video/qBK9NJLzj0U/w-d-xo.html
I have a gifted kid. Her teachers say that she has struggles leaving activities because she gets so into everything and fights switching activities…public school is a constant shift every 15 minutes. Any advice?
Just learning is a gift
Supervised Mensa IQ 116 ( SD 15 ).
Tested in 2016.
Thank you 😊 this is valuable
Glad it was helpful!
Good input.Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
I tested as profoundly gifted in kindergarten. After a lifetime enduring hatred, alienation, and jealousy (with no help or support,) now I mostly just want to die. 56 years of this hell is enough.
I'm deeply sorry to hear of your struggles. It's important to know you're not alone and support is available. Please consider reaching out to a mental health professional or a helpline for the care you deserve. Your experiences matter, and there are people ready to help you through this.
Do you have any content on Highly Sensitive Children please 🙏 🥺🙂
Not yet! But I have an episode on Twice Exceptional you might find interesting: th-cam.com/video/LKqJZRLQMlw/w-d-xo.html
To really shine on something a person must have an extreme interest and willingness it could have a very poor IQ but on that they're extremely high genius high
Can't hear anything from the mouth smacking sounds
Not sure what you are referring to?
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So silly. Estimated iq and then use it as an example to prove your point 🤣 ... he's definitely not gifted 🙃.
Dr. Joseph S. Renzulli is a leader and pioneer in gifted education and applying the pedagogy of gifted education teaching strategies to all students.
@@IngeniousBaby misguided desire based on his misunderstanding I'm sure. Non gifted kids can't learn in the same manner as gifted kids, so using the same approach would likely fail. In general deriving an approach using a special case then expanding to a general case makes no sense. You would think one of his gifted students would explain that simple concept to him.
If he'd use a scientific approach or anything close to it, he would very quickly see his error. Instead he's making up arguments to support his opinions based on nonsense (historical estimate of an iq which the person estimating then judges... no bias there I'm sure lol). How is he normalizing for the flyn effect or coming up with a baseline.
Also ppl are born gifted. I dont see how that's debatable at this point. But if he doubts I can introduce him to a bunch, as they're pretty common in my family.
@@dhagos
"People are born gifted"
Interesting, if you can provide the least of evidence, I'd be happy to incorporate your position!
@𝕾𝖙𝖗𝖎𝖛𝖊𝖗 - مُصْلِح take anyone's iq at anytime throughout their life and the results will be correlated at about 0.9. There's also literature looking at twins and family members showing genetic links to intelligence. If you've ever raised a kid you'd also notice it almost instantly, that some are smarter than others. Very high correlation with achievements at an early age (e.g., a 6 month old that's talking and the odds of them being gifted).