20:54 I think the reason why Norman got too many screen time in Season 5 is because he was probably a fan favorite character like Devious Diesel from Thomas. Norman used to be a fan favorite character, until HiT Entertainment Xing Xing Digital & Mattel decided to botch him and turn him into an evil villain prior to CGI Fireman Sam in 2008
@@HarveyRivers but they sorta flanderized norman in fireman sam in action and season 5 actually, which means he is flanderized prior, they made him a villain, which contradicts season 1 to 4, even though that art style or the designs look a bit babyish like to me at least in season 1 to 4
I think the reason why they made Sam ginger is because in some scenes of the season 1-4 era the lighting makes Sam’s hair look orange instead of brown.
I wholeheartedly agree that Series 4 was PEAK Fireman Sam. The scripts and storylines were fantastic. They captured the balance of light (the comedy) and dark (the serious emergencies) perfectly. How can anyone say Series 5 is better than episodes such as Deep Trouble For Sam and Trevor's Bus Boot Sale? And especially Snow Business. Nia Ceidiog seriously deserves more credit. She was a great writer. Series 5 is overrated to me aswell. I sound a hypocrite if I say" fans just choose the version they grew up with" cos I'm favouring the original and grew up with the original. I think most fans favour this era because of the lip sync on the puppets, the smoother animation and of course, the iconic, upgraded call out theme. When Series 5 came out, I was 12 (10 if you count when it was produced) but I wanted to check it out as Fireman Sam was my favourite. I decided to overlook the change of puppets and voice acting, but the constant use of Norman got very irritating. That's Series 5's biggest flaw IMO. Using Norman to cause almost every incident whether accidentally or not, is such a lazy way of story telling which both Series 5 and the CGI version are guilty of. I wanted to see more of Trevor, Bella and Sam off duty. I also didn't like the rubber hair on the puppets and Elvis becoming more stupider and those new toy like vehicles threw off more of the realism too. Why get rid of the numberplates? HiT definitely aimed their products at pre-schoolers and Series 5 showed this. My parents and grandparents enjoyed the original and Joshua Jones too, but when Series 5 came out, they found it too infantile due to the lack of adult jokes and maturer references and also with the repetitivness of Norman being rescued in 99.9% of episodes. Steele Isn't too bad in this series though, to be honest. He has become an unrealistic manchild in the cgi version, which is just pathetic. Just because it's aimed at toddlers doesn't imean every character has to act like a toddler I like John Sparkes's take on Sam, it's better than his Trevor. But Alderton is the true and best voice of these characters, hands down. Not only did he do a perfect job, he was the ORIGINAL. I'll have people saying it was Gareth Lewis, but I am obviously referring to the English version here. Both John's were more suiting than Steve Kynman. I think most can agree on that. I have the annuals. The story of Norman scaring everyone with his gorilla mask reminded me of the episode 'Bug Eyed Boy from Venus' too. Maybe Robin Lyons and the other Series 5 writers looked at these old stories for inspiration
Indeed, it was a interesting season. Definitely not as bad as CGI and has some golden nuggets hidden underneath, but series 1 to 4 are way superior in my opinion.
It was Gareth Lewis! There I said it, I'm a people saying it was Gareth Lewis. I don't think Steele was too bad either but he was still treated a bit more like a joke than a serious authority figure. Also I'm not a fan of the jokes about his weight. It didn't really matter before, why does it now? Only reason why there were jokes about Trev was because he's a big eater, yet they still acknowledged skinny Elvis was unfit as well in "Spot of Bother". But I think still skinny Elvis was handled worse.
Another thing that's really weird with season 5 is that the fireman's tunics are changed from black to blue I just find this decision weird because the uniforms they wear are based on the old fireman uniforms worn in England at the time and the tunics were black
I thought it was amazing. I know I could be biased as it's the Fireman Sam I grew up with, but I always knew that there was something about it that the CGI series didn't have. I'm sorry to admit this, but when I was young, I wasn't the biggest fan of the original series, as I was a millennium kid, as it looked outdated, but I would then see more of a charm about it years later. But the thing was, Series 5 has always been my favourite series, even when the CGI series was out. The animation really looked nice to me, and I actually like the redesigns of the characters. Unlike Postman Pat, which is a more softer show in comparison with Fireman Sam, I think the less realistic hair and the less cartoon-like faces suit the action aesthetic of the show better, as I think that's what they were going for. I like how it looks like Bob the Builder. Norman was obviously the writers' favourite character, and they really showed that in the series. Also, some of Elvis' dumb moments actually are funny. Like in Joker Soaker where Steele talks in very proper English, Elvis responds with saying "Can't we just catch him and take the thing off him," which I thought was funny. And in Carnival of Junk, he makes fun of Steele's age, when Steele tries to think of what he did as a child, Elvis responds with "hunting for dinosaurs," which I thought was hilarious. I believe the animation studio they got to animate Series 5 was perfect, as HiT could of simply animated it themselves under their animation studio, Hot Animation. But they didn't, and got a Welsh studio to do it. HiT actually only owned 50% of Fireman Sam at the time, with S4C owning the other 50%, which stayed until 2007, when HiT gained full rights to the show.
This series will always have a special place in my heart, cus the 90’s bbc video ident scared me as a toddler, I kinda got it in my head that I was scared of series 1-4 fireman Sam which is weird. So I kinda boycotted the show for years out of fear. Ik Ik, until I gained the courage as a 6 year old to try this new series by getting the let it snow dvd and was essentially completly hooked. I had all the vehicles and figures and loved it all, it all went downhill by 2008 but luckily I had grown out of loving the show by then
This was an interesting video and I respect your opinion on this season. On a side note, you may have also inspired some parts of my defence video for season 6 of Thomas in some ways.
I actually found out that the production team who worked on season 5 of Fireman Sam actually were considering trying to make a revival of Joshua Jones which would have had the same animation sold as season 5 of Fireman Sam but this never went into formation
Yeah and I find the models and the style to be unique and it got me wondering, How did the animators animate the eyes and the mouths for the characters in season 5?
Well. Here’s my ranking of the Fireman Sam seasons Series 1 - Good Series 2 - Good Series 3 - Nice Series 4 - Fantastic Series 5 - Amazing Series 6 - boring Series 7 - bad Series 8 - terrible Series 9 - horrid Series 10 - awful Series 11 - stupid Series 12 - ok Series 13 - Alright
23:13 Wish no more my Friend. As I'm making my own Fireman Sam Season 5 episode to make Season 5 a very long season than how it actually is. And my Season 5 episodes actually explains the changes.
16:05 I get what you mean though seeing as Sam is supposed to be in his early or late thirties so he needs to have a voice that doesn't sound too old or too young
Starring: The Real Norman Price (the main Protagonist) Cgi Norman/Satan Price (the Main Antagonist) Fireman Sam Elvis Cridlington (the protagonist’s sidekick) Penny Morris Station officer Steele Godzilla Dilys Price Trevor Evans The jellystone banana splits who are Cgi Norman/Satan Price’s Henchman who are also terrible versions of the banana splits but gets treated like a punch bag throughout the entire show and they keep dying in every episode but comes back in the next because they ruined the 1968-2008 banana splits’s reputations. Bella Lasagna Rosa Dusty Sarah and James Mandy Flood Mike Flood Helen Flood The jackdaw bird who only appeared in one episode of season 2 Bully Maguire And Francis from Left 4 Dead
17:35 Oh, just like in the first ever Thomas movie Thomas and the magic railroad where the humans from the Shining Time Station were the main focus of the film and not Thomas and the other engines on the Island of Sodor
Well, I actually loved thomas and the magic railroad and it’s an ambitious cinematic masterpiece in my opinion and it’s 100000000000 times better than that god awful banana splits horror movie I cared about the movie so much that I even made a grim adventures of billy and Mandy meme on it which is a short video and the title said "These movies aren’t stupid, the critics and the ratings are stupid!"
25:03 If I was in charge of the movie as writer and director, which I’ve should’ve been because I was 5 years old back in 2009, if I was born in 1974, in 2007, I would work for Gullane and HiT Entertainment to help make Season 6 of Fireman Sam, and would be in charge as writer and director of the movie Fireman Sam: The Great Fire of PontyPandy. And here are 8 ways that I would fix the movie, along with Season 6 onwards. 1. Hire Cosgrove Hall to animate the show instead of switching it to CGI by Xing Xing Digital. I know Stop Motion could cost a lot of money and be very expensive, but I think the original Stop Motion Fireman Sam is better, so I would reject the idea CGI Fireman Sam and have it switched back to how it was through seasons 1 to 4 all together. 2. Keep PontyPandy as it was in wales instead of having it located near the sea for no apparent reason. 3. Giving Charlie and Bronwyn Jones an introduction to the series. I learned that Charlie and Bronwyn were Sarah and James’s parents when I watched Season 6 on PBS Kids Sprout, and on Netflix, but the problem is, they just appeared out of nowhere for no reason and No Introduction whatsoever. Same with Radar the Dalmatian. 4. Cut Norman Price from being the main villain of the series from Season 6 onwards, and replace him with a new character. Don’t worry, I would still keep Norman in the series, but keep him in his Season 1 to 5 format only. I would create a character for the main villain of the movie and possibly season 6 onwards who would happen to be an evil brother of Norman Price, named Nelson. 5. Keep the cast and characters likable and not annoying, except for the main antagonist of the movie. So for my take on the Great Fire of Pontypandy, I would use John Alderton as Fireman Sam, my friend Trevor Davis as Trevor Evans (if he knows how to do a welsh accent), Su Douglas as Dillys Price, John Sparkes as Station Officer Steele, Elvis Cridlington, and Norman Price, Steve Kynman as Nelson Price and Charlie Jones, Tegwen Tucker as Bronwyn Jones, Sarah Hadland as Penny Morris, Mandy Flood, and Bella Lasagna, David Carling as Mike Flood and Tom Thomas, Joanna Ruiz as Helen Flood, Sarah and James Jones, and possibly Ifan Huw Dafydd as Gareth. (If the PontyPandy Flyer appeared in the original series) 6. Have Warner Bros distribute the Fireman Sam movie. 7. Keep Dillys’s Shop the same way as in the original series instead of just turning it into a supermarket. Which I have to call bull trash about because a normal supermarket is like, 10 TIMES BIGGER THAN DILLYS PRICE’S GENERAL STORE! 8. Keep the season 8 episodes in order. For example, you have to put the episode Water Tower Inferno as episode 2, and put Runaway Train as episode 4, instead of just putting them out of order. Besides, I think in my headcannon that the PontyPandy Railway station opened before the Pontypandy flyer was hijacked by Nipper the Dog. And also, if I was in charge of the Fireman Sam Movie : The Great Fire of Pontypandy, then I would give it a theatrical release in both UK and US. I would have it released in cinemas in the UK on October 2009, and have it released in theaters in the USA in the summer of 2010, which would do so well in the US Box Office that it would join Toy Story 3 during its release.
@@desenhosanimados2010I can handle and respect your opinion on that, but I think season 1-5 Norman is a good guy and cgi Norman/Satan price is the bad guy, and in my headcanon: the cgi series and the stop motion series are two separate universes and Norman and cgi Norman/Satan price are two separate characters and the cgi characters and the stop motion characters are not the same characters. I gave two Norman’s nicknames to avoid confusion: Stop motion Norman: "The Real Norman Price" Cgi Norman Price: "Satan Price" I hope those nicknames get used a lot and became popular soon what do you think of those nicknames?
12:39 I get what you mean when you say a new Fireman essentially Elvis has just finished his training and has just joined the fire service especially since he does appear to be in his early or late twenties
To be fair, whilst Series 5 did have it's flaws, it at least tried to stay faithful to the original And personallly I don't really mind the Bob the Builder style mouth and the Blue uniforms The Fire Service wore darker blue uniforms in some annual stories I think But I think we can all agree that the original series and Season 5 are both miles above the CGI series (Despite the fact that I find the CGI series, Meh)
In my opinion, Season 5 of Fireman Sam is basically an end of a good era in my opinion, and yes even though it had some problems with it, but it felt more like the previous four seasons and we all know that season 6 onwards was the beginning of the end and everything else in Season 5 is the exact same like The humor, the setting, the characters acting and feel the same etc. season 6 is just totally way too different, Season 5 could be the best season, but the first four are so much memorable, however it is my favorite season
I was listening to some 80s Sam audiobooks yesterday and there was one called "it's a dogs life" read by Jeremy Bulloch, instead of Alderton, and Jeremy's voice in the audiobook is identical to John Sparkes' voice, it's a coincidence but it is very similar in how the accent is depicted, and I do like the authentic ness of sparkes voice (maybe the deepness could show sam is older in series 5? he does have a birthday episode) I like both voices but I do prefer how Alderton used more local terminology (like Aye, darro etc) I do prefer the simple design of classic era, I agree about Elvis, I do prefer the updated intro, it does show him do more firefighter things other than sliding down the staircase and hearing the alarm. Trouble and Squeak I think is up there as one of the good series 5 episodes that retained the charm that the classic era had Trevor likely gave up the job due to his issues with heights, that was a big issue with him, but he clearly has retained some his knowledge and experience, like when he alerts to dilys and norman to leave in "the big freeze" when the electric blanket causes the fire. not bad for a first series analysis video, I like how you incorporated the synthy instrumental songs from classic era it goes well with the sonic music
0:13 Wait what !!??? How dare you! Series 5 is the fireman sam series ever!!! It definitely beats series 1-4 in anyway! It’s peak I tell yah, peak!! You will hear about this my lawyer to this! #canceled
@@HarveyRiversAnd plus it kinda makes sense for Pontypandy to have a mountain because it's fitting for a town set deep in the hills and Wales is known for its breathtaking mountains anyway
@@HarveyRivers I remember when I went to Wales in 2015 for a week away to an Activity Centre with my primary school and I saw Hills and Mountains galore so the model makers were really accurate on the backgrounds
@@HarveyRivers It was just the one off where he jokes about being fat and it’s also the first time we see him being rescued in Season 5 and I’ve even noticed in the CGI Series he’s picked up Trevor’s old habit of eating all the time
Make no bones about it, I think Season 5 of Fireman Sam had both amazing animation and music. And ever since I watched it on PBS Sprout growing up in the US, it is my introduction to not only Fireman Sam but also Welsh culture in general. I eventually discovered the classic 4 seasons that were made in the late 80s and early 90s, which were all timeless, memorable, and mean a lot to me. However I do think this version of Fireman Sam was pretty short lived. It may seem like it was a the beginning of the end for Fireman Sam, which it is thanks to executive meddling from HiT, I feel that this version should’ve gotten a stop motion version of Season 6 instead of suddenly transitioning from stop motion to cgi. But I knew why it was short lived. Besides the executive meddling from HiT, the studio who made Season 5 “Siriol Entertainment” went under a overhaul in 2005 and it was renamed to Calon. It meant production on the new stop motion series of Fireman Sam would have to be halted to just merely 1 season, and since then, S4C had no choice to try and continue the show with HiT by turning it into the worst looking cgi imaginable. Even the cgi seasons made me turn the show off as they’re on Sprout.
Dude those old fireman sam annuals are hillourous. These cartoons are jewelry XD I remember thoses cartoons stories as a little kid where Norman's mum falls through a hole in the attic, Norman running up a field getting covered in mud and the farmer shouts at him and officer Steele getting his back snapped into place thanks to a robot bed that sam invented. Of someone uploaded thoses cartoons ot would be brilliant
I understand your copyright concerns, but I honestly find the low-pitched audio track funny, especially with the voices. They remind me of two bass-sounding actors: Thurl Ravenscroft (voice of Tony the Tiger) and Brad Garrett (a.k.a. Robert Barone from Everybody Loves Raymond). Imagine Ravenscroft as Fireman Sam, Station Officer Steele, and Mike Flood; and Garrett as Elvis Cridlington. Series 5 has indeed a lot more action but isn't quite as good as the original four seasons. Not only it shows a completely different design but contains some continuity issues as well as some changes in character personalities. I think the original series would more likely become nostalgia than the newer version, in my opinion. Thanks for sharing!
One thing I really didn't like with season 5 was how the characters had hair that was clearly sculpted unlike the original series where they used what looks like actual hair and I didn't like how very limited the mouths were where is the original series the characters had static mouths but we're able to show expressions in the mouths in season 5 because the mouths were built into the model just so they could get the mouths to move when they spoke this just made the mouth expressions more limited as the characters couldn't show any mouth expressions other than a smile which to be fair works with shows like Bob the Builder but it just doesn't work with Fireman Sam because of how realistic the human characters are meant to look
This video is great! Very interesting topic, when i was younger i first witnessed Seasons 5-6 of Fireman Sam when it would air on Sprout. While i respect your opinion on S5,12:26 i do agree with you here that this season was definitely the start of the downfall of Elvis as a character, but nothing really bad really starts until season 6 and future cgi seasons where he becomes very dumb imo. I also agree with you with the Score and Animation for this season, the stop motion in this season truly gives me Aardman vibes but that could be just me haha. Also pretty sure the composers Ben Heneghan and Ian Lawson came back for S5 as their last season. Which is a shame because after S5, the score downgraded pretty hard imo.
Though season 5 is my personal favorite on a multitude of levels including technical and vocal (animation major and film study brain go brrrr) it does have its flaws. But I think we can all agree that it’s better then series 6 and onward ten fold.
Honestly, regarding Elvis being a total dumbass, I do have a theory. Every season of the show takes place within a short time period, which means season 1-5 takes place around probably the same year, hence the mistakes Elvis does.
The more you think about it, the more it makes sense, the characters almost don't age, and given how slow new technology reaches PontyPandy, the theory does work.@@HarveyRivers
IMO, Season 5 is decent. It’s not as good as Seasons 1-4, but it’s NOWHERE near as awful as the later CGI seasons. I grew up with the early CGI seasons, and 1-5 on home media. Looking back, the CGI seasons are just soulless and lack the charm the stop motion version had.
@@HarveyRivers Yes indeed. Oh, can you like the "In my opinion I do think Series 5 is a fine season, but it’s not as great like the original Series was" again? It's because I edited the comment and it no longer got your like.
@@bradleyfinn3452 To be honest, I would have rather had them keep his inventing even if he improves or not as that's what made him a good character in the first place.
@@HarveyRiversI know how else you could fix Season 5 is have the other drive Jupiter cos Sam drives Jupiter to the shout in every single episode of Season 5
Do you like my new profile featuring Fireman Sam and Quoodles? At Christmas time. I'll have a profile with the original series feel to it for you. And I like your Fireman Sam OC Character Molly. I'm going to try and draw her.
@@HarveyRivers I've done some drawings of Sam and Quoodles. So I have a little friendly request for you for your DeviantArt. I wondered if you could draw Sam and Quoodles. If you can't do that. That's okay. I was just wondering what your drawing of Sam and Quoodles would have looked like.
Is no one gonna talk about Sam's hair not sticking out of his helmet like it should be to tell the difference between the other firefighters?! Also Sam's hair style is the wrong way round when you look at his shots without his helmet on.
THANK YOU. I honestly hate how his hair looked in series 5 and CGI. His original hair style told us he was the main character, but it was subtle. His modern hairstyle makes him look like a NPC Firefighter in my opinion
@yam9195 yea I know, but it looked abit darker compared to the modern seasons to me and I'm not a fan of a idea of him and Norman having the same hair colour due to a you know what theory
I personally don't hate series 5, obviously nothing beats the first four seasons, but unlike the CGI reboot, the one in 2003 does share the similarities from the original like Penny's fitness training, Dilys flirting with Trevor and Sam's potato picker and still being an inventor. Also I do like the idea of Norman Price having a frenemy around his age, given that Sarah and James are two years younger than him (until I realised that Norman and the twins were the same age in the original, the twins were only aged down in the CGI reboot) And I always thought Norman was always one of the main character throughout the franchise, I always thought his shenanigans are what make the stories interesting, especially in the classics series like Norman's Tricky Day and What Goes Up. I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel like Mandy, as well as the Floods and Tom Thomas were a great addition to the series. The voices for the characters, I personally think they are way more tolerable than the CGI reboot by far especially the kid characters. (Dilys, I'd say give or take) My only gripe with the series 5 was Trevor no longer being a part-time firefighter. Even though there was an episode when Trevor did still have his firefighters skills when he used a fire distinguisher to put down Bella's pizza oven, so it does some continuity of the original, but I definitely agree with you about Elvis and the lack of consistency. Personally, if they'd kept the same format for future seasons instead of the god awful CGI reboot, we'd have more stories focusing on other characters besides Norman as well as more development and growth from other characters especially Sam and Elvis, it'll felt more like the classic series but modernised in the right way.
Agreed on pretty much everything. If I tried explaining all my opinions it would take quite a bit of time... I might make a video about it myself, I dunno. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ok..........i dislike it. Some of the stories are a bit stupid like case of the liqouries shoe laces cause shouldnt dillys get proof before blaming norman????? Its a bit silly you know. Also elvis voice became iritating and i didnt like norman he was in almost every episode! But i like the earlier seasons of cgi cause its what was on when i was little cause im a 2011 baby. So yeah. I like cgi until new characters come in i didnt mind the og new characters like bronwyn and charlie as it explaned more james and sarah.
I can respect you’re opinion because I actually loved season 5 and it’s one of the best seasons of the show that I considered canon and I understand the complexities of this 5th season and i find the style of the models to be unique and my favourite is joker soaker because of Norman and his joker soaker. And it canonically ended fantastically with let it snow which the cgi series isn’t canon to the season 1-5 era because in my headcanon the stop motion one and the cgi one are two separate universes Boy that’s a long comment I did there? But the question I have with the case of the Licorice shoelaces episode is what was Norman going to tell dilys before she interrupts him? Because Norman said is "Mam, Guess what a-"
I mean the stop motion series are the best, but looks like in the CGI Series. Mattel, Xing Xing and HiT Turned all the character (well some) dumb and stupid. just look at norman hes so evil. He started a huge forest fire, stolen a fire truck, etc., etc., etc. but I still like the CGI and stop motion series. i mean S5 was like okay. but CGI Fireman Sam is in the middle for me aswell. Cuz NORMAN DOES VERY DUMB AND STUPID THINKS IN CGI. I MEAN HE CHANGED HIS BEHAVIOR IN S13 and S14
Season 5 is Okay i guess? I mean there some good episodes but by this point i question why they it came back at all Fireman sam imo is really a show of that era just like postman pat but unlike that show that tried to at least have a similar feel not this show it is very hard for me to get into this season because of the 360 shift i know thomas has this too but that show it was more of a transition so when it did happened is was not a jarring. and it was aring new seasons each year starting with season 6.
@@HarveyRivers Least it ain’t Bob the Builder 2015 or Thomas and Friends AEG which was a real disaster speaking of it you don’t really talk about Bob that much
@@HarveyRiversIn Twist of Fate Station Officer Steele jokes about being fat and gets stuck in a pothole (Doesn’t this fit Trevor more) but that’s nothing to the CGI Series although he uses to make me laugh and I think he has picked up Trevors old habit of eating all the time
Stele born 1937 Norris Stelle born 1957 Tevor born 1959 Sam borm 1957 Penny born 1963 Elives born 1969 Fireman when they retire Tevor evans stared 1970 retired 1985 Station officer basil Stelle stared 1965 retired 1987 Fireman sam Jones stared 1987 retired 2017 Penny morris stared 1989 retired 2021 Elives cridlington stared 1985 retired 2023 The longest fireman is cridlington who has been the over decides 38 years
I was wondering why I couldn't find his channel. Its a shame, as he gave us great restorations of series 1 to 5 music and seemed like a chill guy to interact with
Thanks for everyone who came to the Premier and sorry it started earlier than expected. Ive never done a premiere before.
20:54 I think the reason why Norman got too many screen time in Season 5 is because he was probably a fan favorite character like Devious Diesel from Thomas. Norman used to be a fan favorite character, until HiT Entertainment Xing Xing Digital & Mattel decided to botch him and turn him into an evil villain prior to CGI Fireman Sam in 2008
Sounds fitting
JonathanBunny15 i was thinking that same thought aswell.
Damn it hit entertainment!!
@@HarveyRivers but they sorta flanderized norman in fireman sam in action and season 5 actually, which means he is flanderized prior, they made him a villain, which contradicts season 1 to 4, even though that art style or the designs look a bit babyish like to me at least in season 1 to 4
I think the reason why they made Sam ginger is because in some scenes of the season 1-4 era the lighting makes Sam’s hair look orange instead of brown.
I see, although it looked more red IMO
Program of my childhood love fireman sam
I wholeheartedly agree that Series 4 was PEAK Fireman Sam. The scripts and storylines were fantastic. They captured the balance of light (the comedy) and dark (the serious emergencies) perfectly. How can anyone say Series 5 is better than episodes such as Deep Trouble For Sam and Trevor's Bus Boot Sale? And especially Snow Business.
Nia Ceidiog seriously deserves more credit. She was a great writer.
Series 5 is overrated to me aswell.
I sound a hypocrite if I say" fans just choose the version they grew up with" cos I'm favouring the original and grew up with the original.
I think most fans favour this era because of the lip sync on the puppets, the smoother animation and of course, the iconic, upgraded call out theme.
When Series 5 came out, I was 12 (10 if you count when it was produced) but I wanted to check it out as Fireman Sam was my favourite.
I decided to overlook the change of puppets and voice acting, but the constant use of Norman got very irritating.
That's Series 5's biggest flaw IMO. Using Norman to cause almost every incident whether accidentally or not, is such a lazy way of story telling which both Series 5 and the CGI version are guilty of.
I wanted to see more of Trevor, Bella and Sam off duty.
I also didn't like the rubber hair on the puppets and Elvis becoming more stupider and those new toy like vehicles threw off more of the realism too. Why get rid of the numberplates?
HiT definitely aimed their products at pre-schoolers and Series 5 showed this.
My parents and grandparents enjoyed the original and Joshua Jones too, but when Series 5 came out, they found it too infantile due to the lack of adult jokes and maturer references and also with the repetitivness of Norman being rescued in 99.9% of episodes.
Steele Isn't too bad in this series though, to be honest. He has become an unrealistic manchild in the cgi version, which is just pathetic. Just because it's aimed at toddlers doesn't imean every character has to act like a toddler
I like John Sparkes's take on Sam, it's better than his Trevor. But Alderton is the true and best voice of these characters, hands down. Not only did he do a perfect job, he was the ORIGINAL. I'll have people saying it was Gareth Lewis, but I am obviously referring to the English version here.
Both John's were more suiting than Steve Kynman. I think most can agree on that.
I have the annuals. The story of Norman scaring everyone with his gorilla mask reminded me of the episode 'Bug Eyed Boy from Venus' too. Maybe Robin Lyons and the other Series 5 writers looked at these old stories for inspiration
Indeed, it was a interesting season. Definitely not as bad as CGI and has some golden nuggets hidden underneath, but series 1 to 4 are way superior in my opinion.
It was Gareth Lewis! There I said it, I'm a people saying it was Gareth Lewis.
I don't think Steele was too bad either but he was still treated a bit more like a joke than a serious authority figure. Also I'm not a fan of the jokes about his weight. It didn't really matter before, why does it now? Only reason why there were jokes about Trev was because he's a big eater, yet they still acknowledged skinny Elvis was unfit as well in "Spot of Bother". But I think still skinny Elvis was handled worse.
I agree. I mean norman was stupid for starting a fire in the forset
Another thing that's really weird with season 5 is that the fireman's tunics are changed from black to blue I just find this decision weird because the uniforms they wear are based on the old fireman uniforms worn in England at the time and the tunics were black
I thought it was amazing. I know I could be biased as it's the Fireman Sam I grew up with, but I always knew that there was something about it that the CGI series didn't have.
I'm sorry to admit this, but when I was young, I wasn't the biggest fan of the original series, as I was a millennium kid, as it looked outdated, but I would then see more of a charm about it years later.
But the thing was, Series 5 has always been my favourite series, even when the CGI series was out. The animation really looked nice to me, and I actually like the redesigns of the characters. Unlike Postman Pat, which is a more softer show in comparison with Fireman Sam, I think the less realistic hair and the less cartoon-like faces suit the action aesthetic of the show better, as I think that's what they were going for. I like how it looks like Bob the Builder.
Norman was obviously the writers' favourite character, and they really showed that in the series. Also, some of Elvis' dumb moments actually are funny. Like in Joker Soaker where Steele talks in very proper English, Elvis responds with saying "Can't we just catch him and take the thing off him," which I thought was funny. And in Carnival of Junk, he makes fun of Steele's age, when Steele tries to think of what he did as a child, Elvis responds with "hunting for dinosaurs," which I thought was hilarious.
I believe the animation studio they got to animate Series 5 was perfect, as HiT could of simply animated it themselves under their animation studio, Hot Animation. But they didn't, and got a Welsh studio to do it. HiT actually only owned 50% of Fireman Sam at the time, with S4C owning the other 50%, which stayed until 2007, when HiT gained full rights to the show.
I understand, I respect your opinion
I agree
Venus' S5 siren and tom's 4x4 siren is good in series 5. sounds like a UK siren
This series will always have a special place in my heart, cus the 90’s bbc video ident scared me as a toddler, I kinda got it in my head that I was scared of series 1-4 fireman Sam which is weird. So I kinda boycotted the show for years out of fear. Ik Ik, until I gained the courage as a 6 year old to try this new series by getting the let it snow dvd and was essentially completly hooked. I had all the vehicles and figures and loved it all, it all went downhill by 2008 but luckily I had grown out of loving the show by then
I know that Nurse Flood wasn’t there from Day 1 cos when Trevor hurt his arm the firemen tended to him
This was an interesting video and I respect your opinion on this season. On a side note, you may have also inspired some parts of my defence video for season 6 of Thomas in some ways.
Oh, that sounds good
I handled you’re opinion on season 5 because I actually love season 5. And I love how the sets and models looked.
I actually found out that the production team who worked on season 5 of Fireman Sam actually were considering trying to make a revival of Joshua Jones which would have had the same animation sold as season 5 of Fireman Sam but this never went into formation
Oh
@@HarveyRivers yeah interesting isn't it
@@williampulfer-melville8536
Do you think a revival of Joshua Jones would have worked?
Poor Joshua jones
#BringbackJoshuaJones
19:40 Season 5 was my first time watching Fireman Sam, so I think the Bob the Builder liked mouth kinda fits Sam in my opinion
Fair enough, I respect your opinion
Yeah and I find the models and the style to be unique and it got me wondering, How did the animators animate the eyes and the mouths for the characters in season 5?
Well. Here’s my ranking of the Fireman Sam seasons
Series 1 - Good
Series 2 - Good
Series 3 - Nice
Series 4 - Fantastic
Series 5 - Amazing
Series 6 - boring
Series 7 - bad
Series 8 - terrible
Series 9 - horrid
Series 10 - awful
Series 11 - stupid
Series 12 - ok
Series 13 - Alright
19:32 Yeah, Sam’s hair was supposed to be brown like it originally was, I mean, it should‘ve looked like Ringo Star’s
23:13 Wish no more my Friend. As I'm making my own Fireman Sam Season 5 episode to make Season 5 a very long season than how it actually is. And my Season 5 episodes actually explains the changes.
16:05 I get what you mean though seeing as Sam is supposed to be in his early or late thirties so he needs to have a voice that doesn't sound too old or too young
The Norman Price Show
Starring:
The Real Norman Price (the main Protagonist)
Cgi Norman/Satan Price (the Main Antagonist)
Fireman Sam
Elvis Cridlington (the protagonist’s sidekick)
Penny Morris
Station officer Steele
Godzilla
Dilys Price
Trevor Evans
The jellystone banana splits who are Cgi Norman/Satan Price’s Henchman who are also terrible versions of the banana splits but gets treated like a punch bag throughout the entire show and they keep dying in every episode but comes back in the next because they ruined the 1968-2008 banana splits’s reputations.
Bella Lasagna
Rosa
Dusty
Sarah and James
Mandy Flood
Mike Flood
Helen Flood
The jackdaw bird who only appeared in one episode of season 2
Bully Maguire
And Francis from Left 4 Dead
@@KyranyoutubevidsWe all know Season 6 Onwards is “Steele becomes a child”
Theres also a story from the 1990s called The Lost Lamb witch is based off Danger Falling Sheep
17:35 Oh, just like in the first ever Thomas movie Thomas and the magic railroad where the humans from the Shining Time Station were the main focus of the film and not Thomas and the other engines on the Island of Sodor
Yep
Well, I actually loved thomas and the magic railroad and it’s an ambitious cinematic masterpiece in my opinion and it’s 100000000000 times better than that god awful banana splits horror movie I cared about the movie so much that I even made a grim adventures of billy and Mandy meme on it which is a short video and the title said "These movies aren’t stupid, the critics and the ratings are stupid!"
25:03 If I was in charge of the movie as writer and director, which I’ve should’ve been because I was 5 years old back in 2009, if I was born in 1974, in 2007, I would work for Gullane and HiT Entertainment to help make Season 6 of Fireman Sam, and would be in charge as writer and director of the movie Fireman Sam: The Great Fire of PontyPandy. And here are 8 ways that I would fix the movie, along with Season 6 onwards.
1. Hire Cosgrove Hall to animate the show instead of switching it to CGI by Xing Xing Digital. I know Stop Motion could cost a lot of money and be very expensive, but I think the original Stop Motion Fireman Sam is better, so I would reject the idea CGI Fireman Sam and have it switched back to how it was through seasons 1 to 4 all together.
2. Keep PontyPandy as it was in wales instead of having it located near the sea for no apparent reason.
3. Giving Charlie and Bronwyn Jones an introduction to the series. I learned that Charlie and Bronwyn were Sarah and James’s parents when I watched Season 6 on PBS Kids Sprout, and on Netflix, but the problem is, they just appeared out of nowhere for no reason and No Introduction whatsoever. Same with Radar the Dalmatian.
4. Cut Norman Price from being the main villain of the series from Season 6 onwards, and replace him with a new character. Don’t worry, I would still keep Norman in the series, but keep him in his Season 1 to 5 format only. I would create a character for the main villain of the movie and possibly season 6 onwards who would happen to be an evil brother of Norman Price, named Nelson.
5. Keep the cast and characters likable and not annoying, except for the main antagonist of the movie. So for my take on the Great Fire of Pontypandy, I would use John Alderton as Fireman Sam, my friend Trevor Davis as Trevor Evans (if he knows how to do a welsh accent), Su Douglas as Dillys Price, John Sparkes as Station Officer Steele, Elvis Cridlington, and Norman Price, Steve Kynman as Nelson Price and Charlie Jones, Tegwen Tucker as Bronwyn Jones, Sarah Hadland as Penny Morris, Mandy Flood, and Bella Lasagna, David Carling as Mike Flood and Tom Thomas, Joanna Ruiz as Helen Flood, Sarah and James Jones, and possibly Ifan Huw Dafydd as Gareth. (If the PontyPandy Flyer appeared in the original series)
6. Have Warner Bros distribute the Fireman Sam movie.
7. Keep Dillys’s Shop the same way as in the original series instead of just turning it into a supermarket. Which I have to call bull trash about because a normal supermarket is like, 10 TIMES BIGGER THAN DILLYS PRICE’S GENERAL STORE!
8. Keep the season 8 episodes in order. For example, you have to put the episode Water Tower Inferno as episode 2, and put Runaway Train as episode 4, instead of just putting them out of order. Besides, I think in my headcannon that the PontyPandy Railway station opened before the Pontypandy flyer was hijacked by Nipper the Dog.
And also, if I was in charge of the Fireman Sam Movie : The Great Fire of Pontypandy, then I would give it a theatrical release in both UK and US. I would have it released in cinemas in the UK on October 2009, and have it released in theaters in the USA in the summer of 2010, which would do so well in the US Box Office that it would join Toy Story 3 during its release.
Sounds good
Or a better name for cgi Norman price *"Satan price"*
Stop motion Norman price = heaven
Cgi Norman price = hell
@@Kyranyoutubevidsseason 5 to 12 norman price is actually evil not just the early cgi series
@@desenhosanimados2010I can handle and respect your opinion on that, but I think season 1-5 Norman is a good guy and cgi Norman/Satan price is the bad guy, and in my headcanon: the cgi series and the stop motion series are two separate universes and Norman and cgi Norman/Satan price are two separate characters and the cgi characters and the stop motion characters are not the same characters.
I gave two Norman’s nicknames to avoid confusion:
Stop motion Norman: "The Real Norman Price"
Cgi Norman Price: "Satan Price"
I hope those nicknames get used a lot and became popular soon what do you think of those nicknames?
12:39 I get what you mean when you say a new Fireman essentially Elvis has just finished his training and has just joined the fire service especially since he does appear to be in his early or late twenties
14:45 also I wish they actually gave the Floods as well as Tom and introductory episode to at least give us some explanation to where they came from
I think the production team took the quote "Who needs no introduction" too seriously
19:13 They don’t look like bath toys to me, I mean, they don’t look like the Rubbadubbers or anything
True, I just think they looked abit toyish compared to the original viechles
To be fair, whilst Series 5 did have it's flaws, it at least tried to stay faithful to the original
And personallly I don't really mind the Bob the Builder style mouth and the Blue uniforms
The Fire Service wore darker blue uniforms in some annual stories I think
But I think we can all agree that the original series and Season 5 are both miles above the CGI series (Despite the fact that I find the CGI series, Meh)
In my opinion, Season 5 of Fireman Sam is basically an end of a good era in my opinion, and yes even though it had some problems with it, but it felt more like the previous four seasons and we all know that season 6 onwards was the beginning of the end and everything else in Season 5 is the exact same like The humor, the setting, the characters acting and feel the same etc. season 6 is just totally way too different, Season 5 could be the best season, but the first four are so much memorable, however it is my favorite season
I understand and I respect your opinion
i agree
I was listening to some 80s Sam audiobooks yesterday and there was one called "it's a dogs life" read by Jeremy Bulloch, instead of Alderton, and Jeremy's voice in the audiobook is identical to John Sparkes' voice, it's a coincidence but it is very similar in how the accent is depicted, and I do like the authentic ness of sparkes voice (maybe the deepness could show sam is older in series 5? he does have a birthday episode)
I like both voices but I do prefer how Alderton used more local terminology (like Aye, darro etc)
I do prefer the simple design of classic era, I agree about Elvis, I do prefer the updated intro, it does show him do more firefighter things other than sliding down the staircase and hearing the alarm.
Trouble and Squeak I think is up there as one of the good series 5 episodes that retained the charm that the classic era had
Trevor likely gave up the job due to his issues with heights, that was a big issue with him, but he clearly has retained some his knowledge and experience, like when he alerts to dilys and norman to leave in "the big freeze" when the electric blanket causes the fire.
not bad for a first series analysis video, I like how you incorporated the synthy instrumental songs from classic era it goes well with the sonic music
Thanks
0:13 Wait what !!??? How dare you! Series 5 is the fireman sam series ever!!! It definitely beats series 1-4 in anyway! It’s peak I tell yah, peak!! You will hear about this my lawyer to this! #canceled
As much as I love S5 I can see where your coming from.
Yea, definitely not a bad season, just not amazing as everyone says it is in my opinion
15:17
I wouldn't consider it to be too out of place since it's mainly used for mountain rescues
True
@@HarveyRiversAnd plus it kinda makes sense for Pontypandy to have a mountain because it's fitting for a town set deep in the hills and Wales is known for its breathtaking mountains anyway
@@jacobjcb8883 true
@@HarveyRivers I remember when I went to Wales in 2015 for a week away to an Activity Centre with my primary school and I saw Hills and Mountains galore so the model makers were really accurate on the backgrounds
@@jacobjcb8883 indeed
Steele in Season 5 isn’t like CGI Steele cos he is a complete and utter man-child
I know he wasn't exactly like CGI Steele, he just wasn't exactly like how he was in the original show
@@HarveyRivers It was just the one off where he jokes about being fat and it’s also the first time we see him being rescued in
Season 5 and I’ve even noticed in the CGI Series he’s picked up Trevor’s old habit of eating all the time
@bradleyfinn3452 I understand, however, I thought that role in Twist Of Fate was betterly suited for Trevor in my opinion
@@HarveyRivers Yeah I’d love to see that
Make no bones about it, I think Season 5 of Fireman Sam had both amazing animation and music. And ever since I watched it on PBS Sprout growing up in the US, it is my introduction to not only Fireman Sam but also Welsh culture in general. I eventually discovered the classic 4 seasons that were made in the late 80s and early 90s, which were all timeless, memorable, and mean a lot to me.
However I do think this version of Fireman Sam was pretty short lived. It may seem like it was a the beginning of the end for Fireman Sam, which it is thanks to executive meddling from HiT, I feel that this version should’ve gotten a stop motion version of Season 6 instead of suddenly transitioning from stop motion to cgi. But I knew why it was short lived. Besides the executive meddling from HiT, the studio who made Season 5 “Siriol Entertainment” went under a overhaul in 2005 and it was renamed to Calon. It meant production on the new stop motion series of Fireman Sam would have to be halted to just merely 1 season, and since then, S4C had no choice to try and continue the show with HiT by turning it into the worst looking cgi imaginable. Even the cgi seasons made me turn the show off as they’re on Sprout.
Dude those old fireman sam annuals are hillourous. These cartoons are jewelry XD
I remember thoses cartoons stories as a little kid where Norman's mum falls through a hole in the attic, Norman running up a field getting covered in mud and the farmer shouts at him and officer Steele getting his back snapped into place thanks to a robot bed that sam invented.
Of someone uploaded thoses cartoons ot would be brilliant
Have you seen them before?
@@richclarkson8917 I think so
Good example these logos should stop oversimplifying but instead decided to redesign slightly by adding additional details and gradient fully 3D
Yeah
I understand your copyright concerns, but I honestly find the low-pitched audio track funny, especially with the voices. They remind me of two bass-sounding actors: Thurl Ravenscroft (voice of Tony the Tiger) and Brad Garrett (a.k.a. Robert Barone from Everybody Loves Raymond). Imagine Ravenscroft as Fireman Sam, Station Officer Steele, and Mike Flood; and Garrett as Elvis Cridlington.
Series 5 has indeed a lot more action but isn't quite as good as the original four seasons. Not only it shows a completely different design but contains some continuity issues as well as some changes in character personalities. I think the original series would more likely become nostalgia than the newer version, in my opinion. Thanks for sharing!
No problem
Perhaps they felt that they wanted to do in bob the builder style
Possibly, but I personally think the art style was unique enough and didn't need change in my opinion
15:51 I actually like both John Alderton & John Sparkes as Sam. But Steve Kynman is ok
Fair enough
I respect your opinion, I actually don’t mind kynmans voice for Sam it’s more energetic compared to sparkes’ voice but I like all of sams voices imo
One thing I really didn't like with season 5 was how the characters had hair that was clearly sculpted unlike the original series where they used what looks like actual hair and I didn't like how very limited the mouths were where is the original series the characters had static mouths but we're able to show expressions in the mouths in season 5 because the mouths were built into the model just so they could get the mouths to move when they spoke this just made the mouth expressions more limited as the characters couldn't show any mouth expressions other than a smile which to be fair works with shows like Bob the Builder but it just doesn't work with Fireman Sam because of how realistic the human characters are meant to look
This video is great! Very interesting topic, when i was younger i first witnessed Seasons 5-6 of Fireman Sam when it would air on Sprout. While i respect your opinion on S5,12:26 i do agree with you here that this season was definitely the start of the downfall of Elvis as a character, but nothing really bad really starts until season 6 and future cgi seasons where he becomes very dumb imo. I also agree with you with the Score and Animation for this season, the stop motion in this season truly gives me Aardman vibes but that could be just me haha. Also pretty sure the composers Ben Heneghan and Ian Lawson came back for S5 as their last season. Which is a shame because after S5, the score downgraded pretty hard imo.
Thanks. I've not really seen anyone discuss series 5 in depth or why they consider it the best season, so I thought this was fun to make lol
You should fix CGI fireman Sam
Probably some day
I hope you might do a video of Postman Pat: Series 3-5 & how I would fix it.
Possibly
@@HarveyRivers Alright
Have you thought of doing a video talking about the other shows that bumper films made such as Rocky Hollow Joshua Jones and Starhill Ponies
Possibly
Though season 5 is my personal favorite on a multitude of levels including technical and vocal (animation major and film study brain go brrrr) it does have its flaws.
But I think we can all agree that it’s better then series 6 and onward ten fold.
Definitely agreed
23:22 I think Cosgrove Hall would do a better job than Xing Xing Digital
Indeed
@@HarveyRiversor even nitrogen studios, nitrogen studios's 3d animation looks better than early cgi fireman sam which is season 6 to 10
Or even the same animation company as that cgi pingu reboot called "pingu in the city"
Honestly, regarding Elvis being a total dumbass, I do have a theory.
Every season of the show takes place within a short time period, which means season 1-5 takes place around probably the same year, hence the mistakes Elvis does.
Interesting
The more you think about it, the more it makes sense, the characters almost don't age, and given how slow new technology reaches PontyPandy, the theory does work.@@HarveyRivers
@@RacoonySkaloonyOfficial indeed
5:11 not me, series 3’s the best 😂
10:52 - LOL!
Will you do the CGI series next?
Possibly. I might rewatch some episodes soon and possibly discuss about it
IMO, Season 5 is decent. It’s not as good as Seasons 1-4, but it’s NOWHERE near as awful as the later CGI seasons. I grew up with the early CGI seasons, and 1-5 on home media. Looking back, the CGI seasons are just soulless and lack the charm the stop motion version had.
@@turbomario indeed
In my opinion I do think Series 5 is a fine season, but it’s not as great like the original Series was.
Agreed
@@HarveyRivers Yes indeed. Oh, can you like the "In my opinion I do think Series 5 is a fine season, but it’s not as great like the original Series was" again? It's because I edited the comment and it no longer got your like.
It seem like it atleast is more convincing ESCENCE than the New series of Thomas (2004-2008)
A little bit
@@HarveyRivers yes... and i think i know who’s responsible for this
@@HEDGIE11 oh, who is that?
@@HarveyRivers you’ll see tomorrow
@@HEDGIE11 ok then
Maybe how I would fix it is explain why Sam packed up inventing
@@bradleyfinn3452 To be honest, I would have rather had them keep his inventing even if he improves or not as that's what made him a good character in the first place.
@@HarveyRiversI know how else you could fix Season 5 is have the other drive Jupiter cos Sam drives Jupiter to the shout in every single episode of Season 5
Do you like my new profile featuring Fireman Sam and Quoodles? At Christmas time. I'll have a profile with the original series feel to it for you. And I like your Fireman Sam OC Character Molly. I'm going to try and draw her.
It does look good and thanks
@@HarveyRivers I'll be adding Molly into my Fireman Sam Christmas Movie.
@@thelothianbuseshub cool!
@@HarveyRivers I've done some drawings of Sam and Quoodles. So I have a little friendly request for you for your DeviantArt. I wondered if you could draw Sam and Quoodles. If you can't do that. That's okay. I was just wondering what your drawing of Sam and Quoodles would have looked like.
@@thelothianbuseshub I don't do requests, but i may possibly do that
24:03 Why Is Numberjack Four Here
IDK, used it for comedy reasons
Is no one gonna talk about Sam's hair not sticking out of his helmet like it should be to tell the difference between the other firefighters?! Also Sam's hair style is the wrong way round when you look at his shots without his helmet on.
THANK YOU. I honestly hate how his hair looked in series 5 and CGI. His original hair style told us he was the main character, but it was subtle. His modern hairstyle makes him look like a NPC Firefighter in my opinion
Red Hairs are cool!@@HarveyRivers
@@yam9195 indeed. I'd say Sam’s hair colour works best as brown or redish brown in my opinion
true but his hair was red in literally the first season and in the intro.@@HarveyRivers
@yam9195 yea I know, but it looked abit darker compared to the modern seasons to me and I'm not a fan of a idea of him and Norman having the same hair colour due to a you know what theory
I personally don't hate series 5, obviously nothing beats the first four seasons, but unlike the CGI reboot, the one in 2003 does share the similarities from the original like Penny's fitness training, Dilys flirting with Trevor and Sam's potato picker and still being an inventor.
Also I do like the idea of Norman Price having a frenemy around his age, given that Sarah and James are two years younger than him (until I realised that Norman and the twins were the same age in the original, the twins were only aged down in the CGI reboot) And I always thought Norman was always one of the main character throughout the franchise, I always thought his shenanigans are what make the stories interesting, especially in the classics series like Norman's Tricky Day and What Goes Up.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel like Mandy, as well as the Floods and Tom Thomas were a great addition to the series.
The voices for the characters, I personally think they are way more tolerable than the CGI reboot by far especially the kid characters. (Dilys, I'd say give or take)
My only gripe with the series 5 was Trevor no longer being a part-time firefighter. Even though there was an episode when Trevor did still have his firefighters skills when he used a fire distinguisher to put down Bella's pizza oven, so it does some continuity of the original, but I definitely agree with you about Elvis and the lack of consistency. Personally, if they'd kept the same format for future seasons instead of the god awful CGI reboot, we'd have more stories focusing on other characters besides Norman as well as more development and growth from other characters especially Sam and Elvis, it'll felt more like the classic series but modernised in the right way.
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21:33 I'm making a show called Fireman Pingu
Cool
22:31 You mean 2005
I believe 2003 was when it was still in production as the 5th season aired in late 2003 to 2004 in Wales first
Agreed on pretty much everything. If I tried explaining all my opinions it would take quite a bit of time... I might make a video about it myself, I dunno. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sounds interesting and glad we can agree on that lol
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Ok..........i dislike it. Some of the stories are a bit stupid like case of the liqouries shoe laces cause shouldnt dillys get proof before blaming norman????? Its a bit silly you know. Also elvis voice became iritating and i didnt like norman he was in almost every episode! But i like the earlier seasons of cgi cause its what was on when i was little cause im a 2011 baby. So yeah. I like cgi until new characters come in i didnt mind the og new characters like bronwyn and charlie as it explaned more james and sarah.
I can respect you’re opinion because I actually loved season 5 and it’s one of the best seasons of the show that I considered canon and I understand the complexities of this 5th season and i find the style of the models to be unique and my favourite is joker soaker because of Norman and his joker soaker. And it canonically ended fantastically with let it snow which the cgi series isn’t canon to the season 1-5 era because in my headcanon the stop motion one and the cgi one are two separate universes
Boy that’s a long comment I did there? But the question I have with the case of the Licorice shoelaces episode is what was Norman going to tell dilys before she interrupts him? Because Norman said is
"Mam, Guess what a-"
I mean the stop motion series are the best, but looks like in the CGI Series. Mattel, Xing Xing and HiT Turned all the character (well some) dumb and stupid. just look at norman hes so evil. He started a huge forest fire, stolen a fire truck, etc., etc., etc. but I still like the CGI and stop motion series. i mean S5 was like okay. but CGI Fireman Sam is in the middle for me aswell. Cuz NORMAN DOES VERY DUMB AND STUPID THINKS IN CGI. I MEAN HE CHANGED HIS BEHAVIOR IN S13 and S14
Indeed
Season 5 is Okay i guess?
I mean there some good episodes but by this point i question why they it came back at all Fireman sam imo is really a show of that era just like postman pat but unlike that show that tried to at least have a similar feel not this show it is very hard for me to get into this season because of the 360 shift i know thomas has this too but that show it was more of a transition so when it did happened is was not a jarring. and it was aring new seasons each year starting with season 6.
True
Quick question
From what episode is the audio from this timestamp 9:11?
It's the Sarah & James song from a cassette compilation thingy
@@HarveyRivers but I dont mean the song but the episode audio that used the cue of said song (aka the clip where Sam says be careful)
@fanstasia21 Ah ok. Its Carnival Of Junk I believe
@@HarveyRivers oh ok thnx
@@fanstasia21 No problem
Is HiT Entertainment good or bad
I'd say good with shows they've owned since their creation, but bad with shows they bought (Thomas under HIT was a bit 50/50 if I'm being honest)
Please don’t hate me but I love the CGI series
I respect your opinion
@@HarveyRivers Least it ain’t Bob the Builder 2015 or Thomas and Friends AEG which was a real disaster speaking of it you don’t really talk about Bob that much
@bradleyfinn3452 IMO, I prefer them other CGI FS
@@HarveyRiversIn Twist of Fate Station Officer Steele jokes about being fat and gets stuck in a pothole (Doesn’t this fit Trevor more) but that’s nothing to the CGI Series although he uses to make me laugh and I think he has picked up Trevors old habit of eating all the time
s1 till s4 is the best
Agreed
nice@@HarveyRivers
Stele born 1937
Norris Stelle born 1957
Tevor born 1959
Sam borm 1957
Penny born 1963
Elives born 1969
Fireman when they retire
Tevor evans stared 1970 retired 1985
Station officer basil Stelle stared 1965 retired 1987
Fireman sam Jones stared 1987 retired 2017
Penny morris stared 1989 retired 2021
Elives cridlington stared 1985 retired 2023
The longest fireman is cridlington who has been the over decides 38 years
It's different in my AU
Fireman sam music 2 is dead
I was wondering why I couldn't find his channel. Its a shame, as he gave us great restorations of series 1 to 5 music and seemed like a chill guy to interact with