This Insane Plane/Train hybrid - The George Benny Rail Plane!

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    So, what did the Bennie Railcar actually look like? It was cigar-shaped, reminiscent of a small submarine or robotic underwater vessel. For its time it was cutting-edge in design and could be described as elegant and streamlined, looking also somewhat like an airship gondola -
    you know, a smaller, less blimp version of the Hindenburg.
    The mechanics of the Railcar were fairly simple: it ran along the underside of an overhead monorail, very much like monorails seen at airports and amusement resorts today.
    Two bogies with wheels, also known as ‘trucks, and which you’ll remember were referred to in the patent, were attached to the top rail so that the railcar could be held securely in place.
    Wheels which rested on another rail would be suspended 16 feet above the ground . These wheels helped stabilise the train when in motion.
    Critically for its design, the railcar would be moved by propellers powered by on-board motors. The Bennie Railcar had two aircraft propellers, one on each side.
    The propellers could be reversed, It was these two aircraft propellers that not only made the train unique in design concept, but also gave it its name - the Railplane.
    The train also featured a braking system on the top rail that would hold the train steady at stations. The propellers were integral to the braking system, as the Railpane would come to a halt when they were reversed.
    Each car or carriage was designed to carry a maximum of 48 people, although the first and only prototype had seating for fewer people.
    It was important to Bennie that the train not only be a comfortable ride but also luxurious. And so the interior of the prototype was fitted out by master furniture makers and interior decorators Waring and Gillow of London, featuring comfortable seats, stained windows and plush curtains.
    The prototype Bennie Railcar at Milngavie was finally opened to the public on July 8th 1930. A test run was done with journalists and guests on board. Although the prototype didn’t exceed 50 miles or 80 kilometres an hour, the test was still a smashing success.
    The guests on board loved the experience!
    One journalist called it a “wonderful product of British brains”. People were enthused by how smooth and comfortable the Railcar felt when in motion. Conventional trains at the time were anything but smooth and quiet. Those trains were bumpy and loud, wheezing and shuddering as they trundled along. Not that pleasant!
    Here was a ride that was luxuriously smooth and oh-so-quiet. An invited guest on the test run had this to say: "the Railplane operated with perfect smoothness and passengers only knew the car was moving by gazing out of the window at the passing landscape. There was no bumping over rails, smoke or whistle shrieking. A ride in the coach is sheer delight."
    Which can only mean the Bennie Railcar was set for success, right?
    It should be noted that the Bennie Railplane was technically sound and, for all intents and purposes, financially feasible. So, why did the Bennie Railplane fail to raise the needed capital?
    A logical, educated guess would be that the rail transport authorities of the day were simply too scared of a popular railcar that would lose them, passengers, on commuter lines.
    In fact, Southern Railways made it quite clear that the company was not pleased with the idea of potential loss of revenue
    due to having a high-speed competitor transporting passengers over its existing railway lines.
    This was made abundantly clear in October 1931, when Bennie claimed he had raised enough money to fund a 20 mile railway from Holborn in central London down to Croydon Airport.
    Southern Railways refused access over their railway lines due to potential loss of revenue from their existing service to Croydon.
    Ultimately, the Railplane may have just been too viable for its own good.
    However, there is a very interesting twist to the tale. By the mid-1930s, the British government was becoming very interested in the Bennie Railplane.
    Southern Railways decided to relent and offered Bennie a stretch of line from London Bridge to Dartford via Lewisham.
    But Bennie refused the offer, standing by his wish to have the line to Croydon Airport instead.
    Bennie would later go on to run a herbalist shop, the polar opposite of what one would expect of a man who once dreamed of high-speed trains! Or perhaps it makes perfect sense that he did that?
    As for the prototype sitting at Milngavie, it fell into disrepair and was eventually dismounted and sold for scrap in 1956. Bennie died one year later at a nursing home in Epsom, alone and allegedly penniless.
    George Bennie was clearly a tenacious dreamer and man of vision. He was indeed a true son of Scotland, a country renowned for its inventors and innovators.

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  • @m.1546
    @m.1546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    My house looks over the old site of the railway. Love how the local history has made it to found and explained.

    • @foxgaming76yt24
      @foxgaming76yt24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah damn

    • @foxgaming76yt24
      @foxgaming76yt24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @RITHIK KUMAR K D wdym

    • @ashg1587
      @ashg1587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You know, planes fly -- key word “FLY” I repeat “FfffffffffffffllLlllllLlllLyyyYyYyyYyyYy”

    • @George-xz9qs
      @George-xz9qs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember that as a kid we used to pass it on the road to Milngavie (pronounced - Mull Guy ) just a short length left. Should have been preserved for one of the Museums in Glasgow.

  • @pbasswil
    @pbasswil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    Could you even conceive of a 'track' that costs more to build per kilometer or mile?? This design is the wet dream of steel companies with excess production capacity.

    • @thesledgehammerblog
      @thesledgehammerblog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Some of the elevated and tunnel sections of the light rail systems around here can cost as much as US $100 million per mile to build. Doubt this would cost nearly that much to build.

    • @pbasswil
      @pbasswil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@thesledgehammerblog My point was, at the time, it would've been hard to come up with a more complicated mechanism for moving a passenger vehicle around, nor one that required more material for its fixed infrastructure. I'm not saying that some modern track systems aren't expensive today. Like in the past, choosing a type of system for a specific transit need is partly practical, and partly political. The press isn't as good for prosaic, economical solutions, as it is for the latest gee-whiz engineering. :^/

    • @thesledgehammerblog
      @thesledgehammerblog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@pbasswil Never underestimate the power of bureaucrats to make things unnecessarily expensive and complicated to keep themselves well employed at someone else's expense.

    • @pbasswil
      @pbasswil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thesledgehammerblog Sure, there are lots of personal interests influencing infrastructure choices, like you say. But also: we're _all_ kinda swayed by gadgets. If we see something new and inovative, we kind of _want_ it to work - even when it may turn out to be impractical, unproven tech, and a big money pit. Hyperloop, for instance, may turn out to be in that category, even though it's appealing.

    • @dpsamu2000
      @dpsamu2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Passenger cars don't carry as much weight as freighters. The trestles don't have to be as robust as freight trestles. That reduces the cost. Might factor that into your thinking on your cost estimate.

  • @nekomasteryoutube3232
    @nekomasteryoutube3232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Honestly I like seeing a variety of Transport stuff getting coverage, as theres always going to be odd, funky, revolutionary, or bad designs of trains, planes, automobiles and ships through out the history of transportation (at least the modern mechanised transport starting as far back as steam powered vehicles)

  • @slimetank394
    @slimetank394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Bennie: struggle with funding for his dream project
    The government: hey, maybe we can he-
    Bennie: No

    • @t65bx25
      @t65bx25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Yeah, IDK why he’d do that. Even if he was really dead-set on having the airport line, I’m sure that the other line would prove the car’s viability and justify more (including the airport line) built later.

    • @M33f3r
      @M33f3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@t65bx25 that is probably what got him kicked out of the company

    • @ericliu5491
      @ericliu5491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can guess the reason why this train was never built was because of simple capitalism.
      Conventional railway companies at the time were making a ton of money, so therefore they did not want a competitor to draw customers away from them and reduce their profit.

    • @SuperPickle15
      @SuperPickle15 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericliu5491 classic capitalists shortshightedness. Yeah, they could make a boatload of money now... But just think, they could've made a boatload of money leasing land, and they had to do none of the work.

  • @christalbot210
    @christalbot210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I'm curious how well this would have actually worked. One of the key reasons airplanes move so quickly is because the air is a medium with very little resistance. This is especially true the higher up you go as the air thins. This system would have had the resistance of the wheels to contend with. I can't help but think they'd get more speed out of it if they'd attach the electric motor to the wheels rather than to a propeller.

    • @Edward256
      @Edward256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Imagine if the entire train was the electric motor... Or the track was the motor? Eh, all relative.

    • @dpsamu2000
      @dpsamu2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The more apparatus you put at wheel level the more resistance you get. Protecting the motor inside the air stream fuselage reduces this. Still in theory you get speed, A demand of passenger transport of all kinds, and smoothness, also a plus, of air travel with the economy and convenience of rail. Station to station service rather than airport to airport service.

    • @iancampbell6925
      @iancampbell6925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's a mystery why he used props instead of driving wheels.

    • @a_Minion_of_Soros
      @a_Minion_of_Soros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@iancampbell6925 that's a lot of mechanical linkages. A radial engine has only one linkage. Less friction.

    • @ramdom_player201
      @ramdom_player201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This isn't the only train made with a propellor. The 'rail zeppelin' was another experimental propellor propelled railcar.

  • @johnfrancis4809
    @johnfrancis4809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I like it, especially across difficult desert terrain.
    And yes they could have added pipes for water.
    Well done Benny

  • @rodrigonogueiramota4433
    @rodrigonogueiramota4433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    "it´s a plane but on rails"
    CNN breaking news: Ryanair announced they will enter on the train transportation market and will transport 400 people per wagon

    • @rudomhende5108
      @rudomhende5108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No seats or windows to keep costs and comfort to a minimum

  • @satvikkrishna145
    @satvikkrishna145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    A thing that was before the Bullet Train, a revolution in railways.

    • @alexhando8541
      @alexhando8541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A revolution that almost was, but never happened.

    • @jayayerson8819
      @jayayerson8819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Much smaller capacity, but nice proof of concept.

    • @borntoclimb7116
      @borntoclimb7116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like the Schienenzeppelin from germany

  • @riliryrimaddyvia9630
    @riliryrimaddyvia9630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Oh wow those animations and 3d models were great,good job nick,keep up the great work

  • @jocax188723
    @jocax188723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Looks like a hot dog - all that’s missing is the Mustard.

    • @martinsiahaan5901
      @martinsiahaan5901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      F&E > Mustard

    • @randominternet8198
      @randominternet8198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The best crossover

    • @engi.2
      @engi.2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      mustard refrence

    • @CausticLemons7
      @CausticLemons7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile but on rails.

    • @SGK10
      @SGK10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do you mean a Mustard video on this?

  • @berubejj
    @berubejj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I can only imagine the sound the propeller would make at full speed.

    • @peter2uat
      @peter2uat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ...and the noise of the wheels on the rail... Wuppertal in Germany is struggling with this old concept since it was built.

    • @NileGold
      @NileGold ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know right, and they wanted to make that in Central London 💀

    • @andrewreynolds912
      @andrewreynolds912 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still its quite as it was tho if it was both props it would of been quiet

    • @BEN-eu6xq
      @BEN-eu6xq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well, considering that the propellers are electricity powered instead of gasoline or similar, it wouldn' be much louder than your deskfan!;P

  • @captain_commenter8796
    @captain_commenter8796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    George Bennie: I’m gonna put a rail plane line over the old rail lines!
    The rail companies: Gonna stop you right there

  • @greendude96
    @greendude96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Can't imagine how much it would cost to maintain over a longer period 50+ years... like a regular bridge maintenance is time and cost consuming, but for a few hundred mile long structure... unimaginable :D

    • @koiyujo1543
      @koiyujo1543 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know right? but his goal was to make something fast for transport then again if he saw stuff like bullet trains today he be happy

  • @captain_commenter8796
    @captain_commenter8796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    George Bennie: Alright guys hear me out…a train…but…it is suspended and is driven by a propeller!
    Public: George………you’re are genius

    • @sparqqling
      @sparqqling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Alright guys here me out...an electric car...but it's in an underground narrow tube!!

    • @adninarrohman5846
      @adninarrohman5846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alright guys hear me out.. a train.. but it run in a vacuum

    • @riliryrimaddyvia9630
      @riliryrimaddyvia9630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alright guys,hear me out,it's a box with wings

    • @isakjohansson7134
      @isakjohansson7134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sparqqling Adam Something would like to have a word with you

    • @mikedelphine1216
      @mikedelphine1216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sparqqling …Are you thinking about Elon Musk’s Boring Company ?! 🤔

  • @crispyandspicy6813
    @crispyandspicy6813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There was also a german rail vehicle similar to this, the Rail Zeppelin, or Schiennenzeppelin. It ran on the normal tracks and it was also streamlined, it had one propeller at the back. However development was discontinued due to the risk of the propeller striking passengers on a platform, the lack of traction on steep slopes and the fact it couldn't pull any aditional cars behind itself.

    • @Bzhydack
      @Bzhydack ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Russians in USSR also have something similar. Danger was real because prototype actually killed its inventor.

  • @xQueenTx
    @xQueenTx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As someone from Scotland. I remember seeing the model of the rail plane in the Kelvingrove museum when I was younger and it always stuck in my head because of how odd it was but it took this channel to teach me more about my own countries history

    • @carltrotter7622
      @carltrotter7622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know the exact model you're on about! I personally was far too fascinated by the Spitfire in that museum to pay too much attention to it, but wow!

  • @dafiltafish
    @dafiltafish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I think the larger problem is capacity, same issue with hyperloop concepts, a train needs to have several hundred seats to make sense, not a couple dozen, and at least with the original concept, that just isn't possible.

    • @victoriaevelyn3953
      @victoriaevelyn3953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah that's where you forget it's not built for common folk it's been thought of for the rich 1% what twaddle a commoner sitting inside this grandiose marvel of limited engineering dremt up by a mad man
      It really is the hyperloop and it even has alot of the same flaws and then some

  • @DJ_Pigg
    @DJ_Pigg ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know Scottish place names are often difficult to pronounce to people who don't live in Scotland so no judgement here but, in case you were wondering, Milngavie is prounounced Mill-guy and the other two are In-shin-an and Ren-frew-shire. Excellent video; I keep hoping to see my great-grandfather in the footage of the Railplane passengers because he was a (rather rich) resident of a town just north of Milngavie but he died in 1931 so would only have known Bennie in the early years of his project

    • @liloliloll
      @liloliloll 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i had to keep replaying it to make sure i was hearing correctly, the most bonkers pronunciation of milngavie i've ever heard!

  • @vennonetes4805
    @vennonetes4805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Okay, now that you're covering trains as well you're the ultimate transportation channel! Well done with finding new areas to explore in such a short time!

  • @jeanbonnefoy1377
    @jeanbonnefoy1377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Now time to do the same with Jacques Bertin and his Aérotrain... more or less the same story but set in France in the 60s and with a little bit more success - at least with the duration of the project, the number of prototypes and the length of the various test tracks.

  • @jazzygeofferz
    @jazzygeofferz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This almost reminds me of the Schwebenbahn in Wuppertal, Germany

    • @MarkusDieterle
      @MarkusDieterle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, interesting comparison. I grew up there. Having the rails suspended over the river is still a big advantage today. Of course the track is relatively short at about 13 kilometres, but then it was mainly designed for local commuting. I don’t think Bennie was aware of this, even though the „Schwebebahn“ in Wuppertal has been in operation since 1887.

  • @Fhcghcg1
    @Fhcghcg1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Sooo… a train, with a less efficient propulsion system..
    Is there a single benefit to this system?

    • @greghumphreys3397
      @greghumphreys3397 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apart from the ones listed?
      And let's see. Ignoring friction, a steam train has an efficiency of ~10%. Electric motors have an efficiency of ~85%, (lead acid) batteries ~90% and propellers about 85% giving a total efficiency of about 65%. Even accounting for the worse technology of the time, it's still feesible that this system was more efficient.

    • @Fhcghcg1
      @Fhcghcg1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@greghumphreys3397 I guess I wasn’t being very clear,
      Having an electrically driven train is a very good idea, and it can be seen with all the electric trains today. (Although having overhead power lines or an onboard diesel generator sounds better than having electric batteries.)
      What I was focusing on was being propeller driven vs wheel driven. A driven wheel is going to be much more efficient than any propeller will ever be as it has a solid surface to push against as opposed to pushing against the air.
      The reason planes use propellers is because they don’t have a solid surface to push against. Planes are able to go so fast due to the lack of friction, friction that a train is going to experience whether it is wheel driven or propeller driven.
      It seems that either Bennie was trying to incorporate design features of the new and revolutionary plane while not understanding the underlying science or was hoping investors would buy into it from the mere fact that it looked futuristic.

    • @SuperPickle15
      @SuperPickle15 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fhcghcg1 i dont think efficiency was the goal with propeller trains. Speed was the most important goal. Bennie's design used 60bhp electric propellers to propel the craft 120mph (in theory). which would make it among the fastest railcar of its era. Germany experimented with a highspeed electric rail car that was traditional in design, that could do 130mph in 1903, but it required expensive 3 phase power, which wasn't feasible for decades. But by the end of the 30's, electric motors improved, and single phase motors were powerful enough, to be able to pull not just a railcar, but a whole train up to 130mph, such as the Italian ETR 200. Basically, Bennie's design was too ambition and too late. Though, the overhead railway should've been explored more, or even adapted today.

    • @murph8411
      @murph8411 ปีที่แล้ว

      The thing about propeller driven aircraft is they need a fairly long runway to slow down so how well would this train been able to stop in an emergency?

    • @jamieknight326
      @jamieknight326 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder if it’s to do with torque rather than power. Modern motors can provide high torque at low RPM due to the clever materials involved to manage the heat created.
      A propeller would be able to both spin at whatever speed was needed to get the best power from the motor without overheating, and it would be pushing cooling air over the motors as it turned.
      We have a similar thing in electric general aviation. Engines used in light aircraft and even the motors used in the Velis Electro electric trainer can only give maximum performance for a very short period of time.
      Without the drag caused by wings I could easily believe the air train could do 120mph on 60hp.

  • @stevemickler452
    @stevemickler452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for this video. I have had a pet idea for years about a flying train that would use railroad right of ways. One version would actually have short wings and props powered electrically from elevated power coils for wirelessly transmitted power. It would fly a few feet over this power supply cable most of the time but be able to land and take off from the train track..

  • @ironmantrains
    @ironmantrains 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This looks like a precursor to Hyperloop, and given that this thing never properly got off the ground, then the same can be said for Hyperloop

    • @UnitSe7en
      @UnitSe7en 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is in no way similar to Hyperloop. Hyperloop is literally unworkable. It literally cannot work. This was very workable and only failed because 1. Rail companies denied access to the land he needed, and 2. He turned out to be a bad businessman.
      Think more before you speak.

    • @victoriaevelyn3953
      @victoriaevelyn3953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought I was alone looking at the comments the idea of that train really isnt that smart it only takes a few seconds to come to that realisation like it's going to use the rear engine to break but what about in an emergency say the track collapses somehow it needs to stop before that break
      It just screams stupidity the electricity could have been used to power the wheels with speeds greater than a coal train and guess what wheels stop quicker than a prop can move air even if it is steel on steel the friction between them is more than that of air

  • @takenbythewindNdrivenbythesea
    @takenbythewindNdrivenbythesea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is totally ahead of time
    👏👏👏👏👏
    His dreams had finally came true

  • @AnkitKumar-fo2iz
    @AnkitKumar-fo2iz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Good thing that you tried something new..as evolving is a rule of nature ..you have to try new things to attract new audience.. just a request: I've always wanted to know more about space vehicles ,so if you'll make something related to space program then it'll be great .

    • @FoundAndExplained
      @FoundAndExplained  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I’ve got a few space videos on my channel!

    • @AnkitKumar-fo2iz
      @AnkitKumar-fo2iz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@FoundAndExplained yeah like star raker.. but I'm hoping something like moon landing vehicles or the nazi space programs or the Soviet space programs .. you know something like that ,which has a historic end with it

    • @Tordogor
      @Tordogor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I love Philip Bono projects for reusable SSTO spaceships - Rhombus, Ithacus, Hyperion. He was decades ahead of everyone then and even now.

    • @TheR7729
      @TheR7729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FoundAndExplained
      a modern analogue
      th-cam.com/video/h-TbPqtOoNY/w-d-xo.html

    • @jbarnhart2653
      @jbarnhart2653 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FoundAndExplained Just a thought...maybe the lack of financing had something to do with the Great Depression?
      Just a thought...I had the second you mentioned 1930...

  • @karlthemel2678
    @karlthemel2678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It is like a slower version of the Hyperloop. It is difficult to join cars/modules/pods into trains due to the propeller propulsion.

    • @randomscb-40charger78
      @randomscb-40charger78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps there could've been a multiple car design had Bennie considered possible overcapacity of the line.

    • @gabrielmalta1962
      @gabrielmalta1962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe some twenty years later it could be possible with jet engines. But we all know how it went last time someone wanted to make a jet-powered train

    • @randomscb-40charger78
      @randomscb-40charger78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Ron White Except it offers rather low capacity, and who knows if the pods will ever come to fruition.

  • @TIGERZY2K
    @TIGERZY2K ปีที่แล้ว +1

    George Benny patented vehicle rail plane was basically a flying hyperloop train of the mid 1920s era if put into the present context.Propellers attached to a bogie of streamlined design makes this unique train the grand pappy of the Japanese bullet train and the French TVG train.This impressive train deserved world wide recognition but alas it was shot down to keep the coal and gasoline based trains running.

  • @urbanspaceman7183
    @urbanspaceman7183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It's about time for Elon Musk to invent this technology now.

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Who knows what exciting new inventions of the past he has in line to steal before this though? Such genius

    • @jakobquick6875
      @jakobquick6875 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Electric car😂
      Vacuum train 💩 he still headed 1-way to Mars😊
      What a genius…he claims😂
      “Most knowledgeable of Manufacturing ALIVE”……
      Sells Cybertruck😂 razor blade doors…stainless* stains/rusts after bird shit/ or even washing…gas pedal cover slips off 😂

  • @richard--s
    @richard--s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, that did split in two or more directions, there is the suspended railway in Wuppertal, Germany, the "Wuppertaler Schwebebahn" and there are high speed trains - and both come in a variety of solutions and offsprings and who knows, which was derived from which idea and what came before the Wuppertal train and monorail systems of any kind and so on...

    • @whitelionstudios1786
      @whitelionstudios1786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Wuppertal system opened in 1901

    • @georgjrgensen8507
      @georgjrgensen8507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly this came to my mind. Some years ago I was in the vicinity of Wuppertal on a short vacation, and my wife and I decided to take a ride on the Schwebebahn. Of course not very fast and a bit bumpy, but enjoyable nevertheless.

  • @BadWebDiver
    @BadWebDiver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definite Steampunk vibes. Love to see it in an alt-history movie or game.

  • @ijulesy
    @ijulesy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really interesting video! Never heard of this before despite being from Scotland ;)

  • @steppenwolf_on_tour6650
    @steppenwolf_on_tour6650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At his time there was already a monorail hanging train : The "Schwebebahn" in wuppertal/Germany. There he could study his dream

  • @ryanmcmillan8669
    @ryanmcmillan8669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey man scotsman here love your channel, i actually work in an industrial estate in inchinnan so this video was really awesome to see. PS its pronounced inchinnan(in-shin-an) and Renfrewshire (ren - froo - shire) most locals just call it renfrew but ❤

    • @AndyHullMcPenguin
      @AndyHullMcPenguin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      .. also "Milngrave?!" Nobody ever gets that right.
      Spelled Milngavie, but strangely pronounced Mull-guy.. Don't ask.

    • @ryanmcmillan8669
      @ryanmcmillan8669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndyHullMcPenguin when i was younger i thought those where two different places to be fair 😅

  • @ianharvey3696
    @ianharvey3696 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic article and superb graphics, well done!

  • @supermaster2012
    @supermaster2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The amount of drag caused by that stopped propeller, even when feathered...

  • @bartskinthepro3138
    @bartskinthepro3138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Woah this looks epic!

  • @bgallasch
    @bgallasch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm very pleased to see and hear about this fascinating project. Benny should have had more success, but train monopolies stopped it. Very sad. Driven by electricity this type of airrail is successfully operated as "Wuppertaler Schwebebahn", starting 1901 to present. Unfortunately even this success has been realized only once, i.e. in Wuppertal. Thank you for the wunderful documentary material and the funny animation. Great channel.

    • @Foersom_
      @Foersom_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are also suspended trains in Düsseldorf and in Dresden.

  • @robbingham3246
    @robbingham3246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You gave the pronunciation a good go my dude, certainly brought a smile to my face 😂 I live close by to where this was built and it's pronounced Inch-in-an and Ren-frew-sher, but you were close

  • @tonybuelsing
    @tonybuelsing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tom Scott would love this

  • @Pluna-di6vw
    @Pluna-di6vw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:14 damn
    The r34 Gtr was huge back then

  • @trollgoodman7808
    @trollgoodman7808 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant brilliant video.
    Thank you 😊

  • @jayayerson8819
    @jayayerson8819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Thank you again. So much for watching." XD

  • @alcid34
    @alcid34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now that they have made a plane train, they need to make an air bus.

  • @Ulfric-yv3xk
    @Ulfric-yv3xk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine walking on those tracks and then suddenly just seeing a train/plane/submarine hybrid pummeling towards you rapidly

  • @Deep-Sarcasm
    @Deep-Sarcasm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoy the format of your videos. Any technology will be interesting. Not just aircraft. That being said, very interested in airships, blimps, balloons, dirigibles, etc

  • @amenerstugard1894
    @amenerstugard1894 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic, so interesting and informative. Thank you very much! :-)

  • @Kaiserniv
    @Kaiserniv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    R34 airship
    **oh no**

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh yes

    • @plebulus
      @plebulus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guess someone's gotta do it... gimme a minute.

    • @artificial_oysters
      @artificial_oysters 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're not gonna talk about it...

  • @gumbi79
    @gumbi79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    as a native of edinburgh , ive never heard my citys name be murdered like this before . well done on that front

  • @jehoiakimelidoronila5450
    @jehoiakimelidoronila5450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's my take: the bogies have built-in magnetos/alternators, charging up some of the ancillaries or the main motors on the move and do regenerative braking for extra juice. Same thing happens to the rear motor; it's essentially a wind turbine unless it is used as thrust reverser.

  • @jantschierschky3461
    @jantschierschky3461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    To me a suspension train above existing infrastructure makes a lot of sense to me.

    • @rikshepherd9724
      @rikshepherd9724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Until you come to a tunnel, which happens quite a lot in Britain, where he was planning to build this.

    • @jantschierschky3461
      @jantschierschky3461 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rikshepherd9724 well you take existing infrastructure into account, for example in Bangkok, Jakarta etc have big stretches of toll roads, all flat, easy to build that type of rail system above it

    • @rikshepherd9724
      @rikshepherd9724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jantschierschky3461 Now that does make sense; trying to do it in the UK was a bit odd given the terrain, and the way railways run through built up areas.

  • @riliryrimaddyvia9630
    @riliryrimaddyvia9630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If only he has agreed on that line , more lines might have been built and who knows, conventional trains might be even completely replaced in Britain by these faster and quieter trains ,if only that was so...

    • @steyn1775
      @steyn1775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I bet he probably regreted not doing it later on in life

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      quieter?

    • @rexmann1984
      @rexmann1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In 1920 it was a lot of steel to be using. Now not much. This is a design worth a second look..

    • @ammo2222
      @ammo2222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol. Quieter and Faster😅

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rexmann1984 It isn't. I don't see how that's supposed to be more efficient than wheel driven trains

  • @usmale4915
    @usmale4915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a fantastic idea for a train. Too bad it was never built. I think it's a pretty cool "train" and I would love to take a ride on it! Thank you for the video.

  • @lexpee
    @lexpee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic Fantastic documentary.

  • @monstrogoth
    @monstrogoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It makes me think to the later french "aero train" that also used aviation technology to fly above a concrete monorail.

  • @Mark-kf9si
    @Mark-kf9si 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredibly interesting 👍🏻

  • @jm56585
    @jm56585 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow your new graphics look so good!

  • @wgdavidson9669
    @wgdavidson9669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    16:11 - don't apologize for not being able to pronounce "Inchinnan." Start small - like "patent" or "Hindenburg".

  • @avro3726
    @avro3726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That was one of the funniest pronunciations of Renfrewshire I have ever heard. Most definitely incorrect, sadly.

  • @freeculture
    @freeculture 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Suspended rail does exist and is used commercially today. There are some in Germany and Japan. Its main appeal is that it can be built on top of existing roads or rivers. Of course, there is no need to use propellers to move it, normal electric motors can just turn the wheels.

  • @jehoiakimelidoronila5450
    @jehoiakimelidoronila5450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If that design is viable in the alternate universe, it would be only running in city centers with the buildings themselves as support structures for overhead rails. And also running over existing railways for convenience.

  • @brianrigsby7900
    @brianrigsby7900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wish it was saved and put in a museum

  • @matthewmurphy3140
    @matthewmurphy3140 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved that. I feel sorry for bennie he was before his time.

  • @Americanbadashh
    @Americanbadashh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This seems like it still be viable in a lot of places and situations today and may be worth a revisit.

    • @rajeshrai6293
      @rajeshrai6293 ปีที่แล้ว

      we can use tubrojet... it will increase speed

  • @brianbrewster6532
    @brianbrewster6532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating as it was sad. I think this George Benny inventor should've taken up that one offer and not complained that it wasn't what he initially wanted. Who knows how rich this could've made him.

  • @user-fr3hy9uh6y
    @user-fr3hy9uh6y 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good program. He was definitely not an engineer. Thinking that propellers make planes fast😊 He was right about the electric motor and steam had reached its limits. Good story!

  • @SofaKingShit
    @SofaKingShit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Monorails never fail! 👍

  • @michaellutes1057
    @michaellutes1057 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is crazy! I had a weird dream one night of something kinda in this same theme that stretched the length of the United States. It was awesome.

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay, we've found the perfect train to go on the baloon-carried floating bridge over the english channel

  • @IAmTheAce5
    @IAmTheAce5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought this channel was akin to "Tales of Future Past" like what David Szondy chronicled on his website

  • @tlshortyshorty5810
    @tlshortyshorty5810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A shame it wasn’t built, this sounds one of those ideas that sounded both futuristic and practical. Your showing of the comparison between Bennie’s railplane versus IRL current rail speeds is astounding.

  • @umi3017
    @umi3017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you think been hit by normal train is bad enough

  • @garnix5612
    @garnix5612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This channel gets a little bit like Mustard - just with more frequent videos

    • @kirkc9643
      @kirkc9643 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mustard doesn't abuse the 'premiere' function by spamming our subscription lists everytime he releases a video tho

    • @garnix5612
      @garnix5612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kirkc9643 Thats a point - but I prefer more videos

  • @chocolatechip2602
    @chocolatechip2602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That thing could have been cool imagine a cargo version of that it would be fast as hecc

  • @JayHeartwing
    @JayHeartwing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really wish someday, I could be like him... An innovator, even tho I never have any engineering skills.
    Sadly I'm not rich or having money to turn my designs into reality. People even not interested in some of my designs in my art galleries.

  • @muskreality
    @muskreality 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you think the rail plane was crazy wait till you hear the German submarine that sank a train

  • @user-vu8yb8wx9h
    @user-vu8yb8wx9h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would be nice if you could make a video about French Aerotrain (an air cushion train by J.Bertin).

  • @hermannabt8361
    @hermannabt8361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should do an episode on the vacuum train from 1799.

  • @Zackman217
    @Zackman217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was great. You should make more never built railway videos in the future.

  • @zaphodthenth
    @zaphodthenth ปีที่แล้ว

    As a gadgeteer, as a kid and teen I made the usual toy cars from assorted parts, and I can say this about this idea.
    While it will work, it isn't the best way to get propulsion for a land vehicle. Wheels driven by a motor provide more power and torque than the same motor with a propeller on it. Propellers work great though on airboats meant for swamps because an in-water propeller would get snagged and stopped in a matter of minutes. And on hovercraft because THAT has no ground contact at all.
    This idea could be modified into a cable car system like the pre- existing cable cars, or electrically powered.
    Me personally I'd wonder about the noise levels put out by the propellers: The SMALL quadrotors make a racket and they are four propellers an inch across... just imagine how LOUD this train would have been.

  • @hurricanefury439
    @hurricanefury439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i want this to actually be a thing
    someone bring this back.

    • @maxis2k
      @maxis2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The problem is, you could make this without the plane parts. And only one above track. It's called a suspended monorail. And it was invented in...1901. Before even this was invented. The one advantage this train had was the extra speed. And well, that wouldn't be an advantage today because of high speed rail. All that said, this should have gotten built in 1930. It would have been amazing for its time and lasted well into the 1960s at least. Probably even longer in the UK because of failed high speed rail.

  • @johnsamu
    @johnsamu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did misread the title "The Benny HILL Rail plane". I was thinking WTF has Benny Hill to do with planes and rails?😉😁

  • @UncleFeedle
    @UncleFeedle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's an alternate universe where this was successful.

  • @davebar2017
    @davebar2017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes now I can wait on the edge of the runway for my plane

  • @TheSimon253
    @TheSimon253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finds steam inefficient, proceeds to create a "train" that is powered by a propeller...

  • @andylinton2798
    @andylinton2798 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Dead Sea isn't in Egypt - the Red Sea is. But fascinating story, well told!

  • @pierre-rose7783
    @pierre-rose7783 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks good for the old TV children's show called "The Thunderbirds!"

  • @kommandantgalileo
    @kommandantgalileo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:45 trees are pink

  • @TheHollowGHOST
    @TheHollowGHOST 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the narrator's pronunciaiton of Renfrewshire was hillarious, but Milngavie? Oh My God, that was just downright funny!

    • @SabotsLibres
      @SabotsLibres 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just be thankful Bennie didn't set up in Kircudbright...

  • @gregonline6506
    @gregonline6506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At Wuppertal there is the Schwebebahn. A bit less outlandish, still working.

  • @BluntEversmoke
    @BluntEversmoke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *cue Cypress Hill beat*
    "Inside of the plane train!
    Insane in the brain!" 😂

  • @ysmustyattic8352
    @ysmustyattic8352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant wait

  • @fradefox6128
    @fradefox6128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That looks like a flying jelly bean

  • @ingo_8628
    @ingo_8628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats a more complicated version of the wuppertal schwebebahn, the propulsion by propeller was just the spirit of that time.

  • @patty1991
    @patty1991 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the past My grandpa give me a book with over 100 pictures of trains and ideas
    One of them was a Zeppelin with Propeller that flys in rings

  • @jaydee6414
    @jaydee6414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Inch-in-an, Ren-froo-shire". Simples. 😏

  • @justsomeguywashwd_jbm821
    @justsomeguywashwd_jbm821 ปีที่แล้ว

    Obviously there's a bunch of ways this could be improved with modern technology, but it just occurred to me that the main idea - directional momentum provided by airplane-like thrust, instead of powered wheels against tracks - could potentially overcome the problems that conventional trains have with climbing a slope with more than a very modest gradient.
    Yes, I know there are tooth & gear type tracks in a few places, but I seem to recall them having some drawbacks/limitations of their own (although I don't recall specifics).
    It's not just hills or mountains that could provide a potential market for something like this, either. I recently watched a video about the various issues related to creating a rail tunnel under a large body of water. 1 of the issues was that they'd have to massively extend the tunnel at each end to reduce the gradient, so that trains would be able to actually traverse the inclined section of the tunnel. If the vehicle's ability to move forward wasn't dependent on traction between steel wheels & steel tracks, and with a bit more thrust, I reckon it could be a viable solution.

  • @alasdairwhyte6616
    @alasdairwhyte6616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Auldhouse is not a suburb of Glasgow it lies ~23 km to the south with lots of green space between
    inchinnan - inch-in-an Renfrewshire ren-fru-shire :)

  • @jamieknight326
    @jamieknight326 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved this video. Fantastic topic expertly explained and presented :)
    What tools are you using for the 3D animations? Is it coming from a game engine like UE5?

  • @tims5860
    @tims5860 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find it hard to believe that he was not inspired by the Schwebebahn in Wuppertal, which began operation in 1901 and is running today.