Traffic lights worked, & motorists, cyclists & pedestrians appeared to heed them. Everyone, black, white or who ever, seemed to look better dressed & carried themselves with more dignity. And I didn't notice any litter.
I'm American, but my mother was from South Africa. When I was a kid back in the 70s we traveled there a few times to visit the relatives. Sure was a great country. I still remember it vividly. It's so sad how it's deteriorated into a huge slum. RIP to a once great nation.
@@nativetexanfulSo you just ran away when things got tough? Many white, especially British, South Africans did that. They took up their stuff and left. Massive brain drain. This quality of the British empire is exactly why many of its former colonies collapse as soon as the British leave. The British have absolutely no concept of transferring the advanced technology and knowledge they've gained to a new region and people. Read on the Moors and how they handled colonising a country, and you'll realise why centuries later, Spain is still a technologically advanced developed nation.
me too 1978 as a young woman I hung around there for the day having got off the cape town to joburg train was flying to UK that evening so got the airport bus and felt very safe!
@@armandpretorius3378 I didn’t say equal rights, I said it was a better life for all of us including blacks. There was surplus, we were one of the richest countries in the world, the cup runneth over, the poor were not as poor as they are in 2022.. Black people saw this and wanted equality they said. Whites gave them equality through a referendum. What did they do with equality? They slayed the golden goose, they pillaged the golden eggs. The standard of living has plummeted to that of a poor country, we are all poorer. @Armand Pretorius, don’t argue dear boy. Mine eyes have seen the glory.
Crazy how the bicycles are just left in the middle of a metropolitan and nobody touches it. As soon as there is order the blacks try and call it racism.
Wow ! . Became quite emotional watching that , esp that view of Braamfontein. Walked up that road thousands of times. Thank you ANC for destroying my country.
Oh shit you made me look more closely ( large screen ) at the footage and oh dear I am wrong. It's not the view looking up to Braamfontein. Looks a lot like it but the grainy footage and my memory played tricks on me. Sorry.
It's not only the RSA. Until the 1980s, western germany was safe & secure. We didn't even need police stations in most rural areas. Nowadays, the flood gates have been opened, gun laws have been tightened and everything is miserable. In my town, a midsized city, white girls won't come out no more throughout the week after dusk hits. No business opportunities whatsoever as well! It's all so tiresome...
Yes it's not like they were shot and prevented from any higher education or any right to political freedom. Definitely much better then than now. I don't understand how anyone can make this comment without cringing even a little bit
They were segregated and lived in shabby townships. They had to have a pass to go into white areas. If they didn't have a pass then they were arrested. The prisons were hellholes of torture. Those were the "good old days" for whites, but not for blacks.
In that Hillbrow Tower at the top was a beautiful revolving restaurant. My boyfriend then husband now, took me there just before everything stopped. It was sooo glamorous.
Eish ! Jah neh !! No street vendors, no one urinating in public and lots of respect for traffic rules. The trains ! what happened to our trains. Streets were clean , and one cn ago on and on and on
Developed, clean and safe for the city centres and the white areas............ the townships had poor sanitary conditions, little or no electricity, appaling crime and murder rates, but hey that was only the black native majority eh?
John Davis Who do you think must take the blame for the " appaling [sic] crime and murder rates" in the black townships? The whites? Apartheid? The blacks living there?
@@johndavis7941 Why do you think there was Influx Control in the old days? It was to control the movement of people, if your Township was designed for 10 thousand inhabitants and it gets flooded by 100 thousand people what happens, you do the math. That's why it went haywire with crime etc because if there isn't work or accomodation for all the system breaks down. I could tell you more but space is prohibiting.
The trains !!! I would save my pocket my pocket money to buy a first-class ticket and enjoy a train ride from Datsward station to Springs. Ohh what a feeling. Can still remember some of the stations between Dansward and Springs __ Anzac, Apex, Pollack park, etc. And then came democracy.
I'm from a previously marginalized part of the population, and even I long for the order, safety and clean streets of the CBD's. It definitely wasn't Nelson Mandela's doing though. After he successfully won the hearts of 99% of the nation with a peaceful transition to an all inclusive democracy, something very strange crept in, but he was too old and tired to even notice it. So now everyone finally had the right to go anywhere they pleased, The homeless slowly infiltrated the inner CBD's thinking it was a place of instant prosperity, and ended up sleeping in many business doorways at night. Being from Cape Town I was saddened, untill I accidentally landed up in central Johannesburg City, that was shocking!!
We were getting there. Most of the segregation laws were repealed during the 80s and Indians and coloureds were given representation in '84. It was flinging everything open to the you-know-whats that killed everything off.
@@charthistorian1690 How? It would have just ended things that much quicker. The problem was one-man-one-vote. You-know-whats weren't ready for democracy in 1994. What makes you think they'd have been ready in 1964?
@@charthistorian1690It could have as P.W.Botha offered Mandela his freedom if he gave up the struggle but Mandela's English Handler advised against it.
@@krishnagovender9661 HAHAHAHAH YOU ARE VERY FUNNY, UNINFORMED BUT FUNNY. THE 25 YEARS THE ANC HAS BEEN RUNNING THIS COUNTRY , HAS MADE THIS COUNTRY THE WAY IT IS. WAKE UP AND SEE THE LIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@johndavis7941 can I just say how glad I am that there is at least one person in this comment section that isn't a complete bigot and has some common sense. My god, what is wrong with these people?
Great sharing, beautiful footage... There was only one ''rich'' South Africa until 1980, because during the 1970s many things happened that went against the maintenance of South Africa with that (very expensive) separation regime. The minority government should have dealt with this without expecting anything in return from the US, the UK and the UN... anyway, that time for resolving things has really passed.
as a teenager I used to attend cape town college every day in Plein St CBD I never properly appreciated what a wonderful ride it was from the southern sub's through wynberg and newlands with the warm sun rising over the hottentots on the mountain by the afternoon the sun was behind the mountain so it appeared misty
Before Mandela , it was very nice , just like how the middle east was beautiful and normal before Islam and America was amazing before socialism and extreme liberalism
im from casablanca morocco and i agree our country also was very clean and prosperous in the 1970's sadly everything changed since the 80's all the parks and green spaces were abandoned and the crime and the ignorance increased severly and the level of life falled :(
Im sorry but arent the dirty shanty towns still apart of South Africa? So that meant your South Africa wasnt no great country anyway if ALL citizens couldn't get equal treatment.
Among many other lies no doubt. The system wasn't perfect but at least we didn't live in a hate filled stinking sewer like today. Big time fail ANC, but they blame the whites, meantime they've been in control for24 years and reduced the country from what you see here to a trash heap.
The communist ANC regime has been destroying the once beautiful and prosperous first world South Africa which you see in the video to a third world garbage dump it is today
Christopher Krüger The same thing is happening in America. The Left want to divide and conquer by using fear, race-bating to gas light the public to believe that capitalism is wrong. The Left and specifically Hollywood spread false propaganda about Apartheid.
It wasn't feasible to build seperate walkways for whites, africans, indians, & coloureds. Buses, pubs, restaurants, etc were a different thing, however
@@SymphonyBrahms . ........and today South Africa has more race based laws than ever existed in Apartheid. Minorities are denied jobs on the basis of their skin colour, the unemployment rate is skyhigh, 80 murders a day, corruption is rife, rolling blackouts. The cruelty of the ANC is way worse.
The municipalities today are degraded... as much or more than in those days. And even under the NP government (yes, apartheid should not have existed), housing and employment conditions were still far... but far superior to those of socialist neighbors, such as Mozambique, Zimbabwe and Swaziland... These are very different realities, socio-economic and geographical conditions... not to mention the very different historical context. And not just South Africa, Namibia should also not follow the ruinous path that Rhodesia was led on (with a lot of support from the UN and London, remember). This does not mean the return of a government as it was until 1994.... but it is still possible to fight for a better future, the country is still young and not as big (and heavy) as Brazil or Mexico, for example. Yes, it can improve. It's not easy... but it's not impossible either.
Everything so clean and orderly people are well dressed and walking on the sidewalk now they just wander in the street crossing whenever they want causing hazards to oncoming traffic now there’s trash all over the streets potholes, graffiti all over the buildings empty offices because companies keep going out of business because of the horrifying economic situation I wonder what happened 32 years ago 🤫
love them or hate them the boers did keep the communists at bay ... and when the communists arrived the corruption and filth came too! in the words of President Trump everything they touch turns to sh!t
@SymphonyBrahms Yes...However this freedom brought tribalism, corruption, mass poverty, the highest crime rate in the world, laws that discriminate....the list goes on...but lets just sweep that under the rug and pretend that the new South-Africa is a miracle and not the fate of any first world nation that implements assimilation.
My, my, just look how clean it is everywhere! What happened in the mean time? Oh yeah, the New South Africa happened! Those were the clean, save, disciplined and horror days of apartheid!
Look guys both Black and white, let's not argue and be racist because of a video that was taken years ago.... I understand that South Africa is a garbage country but blame government for that, not a race because the white DA isn't doing a good job in the Western Cape. To those who say SA was a 1st world country during Apartheid, please stop being naive because that because that's ain't true. A country can't be considered first world if 80% of the population if not enfranchised while 19% live in prosperity..... let's wait for a better generation to take the reigns and show you what a first world country looks like
had whites not become racist i bet things would hv still been this way till today. But their segregation and continously labelling blacks as animals and not wanted in certain sections of the country resulted in resentment and rebellion.
Not all whites were racist, just to be clear and we have been a free country for more than 25 years. Now we have racists back in the government, using the pain of the people to fill their own pockets, while the voters starve in the streets, the political elites plunder state wealth given to it by the people, blaming white people saying it's white peoples fault they are starving. Corruption and evilness comes in all skin colours.
@Joepie De poepie We r not debating about whether there was nothing or something before whites came. The point is when they came to southern africa they drove the natives from their land and segregated people and this segregation caused resentment & rebellion. I dont know what part dont u understand there. U go on and call me a fool. I choose to remain polite and civil and thereby allow anyone who looks at this conversation with you to see who is civil and who isnt.
@@silentlessons4221 Very much true. All the whites had to do was transform the natives, introduce them to their technology and advancements in good faith and cause cultural flourishing for all. Educate the natives with a high standard education, and so on. If you've seen what the Moors did in Spain once they captured it from the Germanic tribes, this is what the British should have done with the natives.
You know what I think we need? We need to go back and look at all the technology and principles and ways of life that the British brought in 1910. And then adopt it and implement it, sort of a Renaissance for black people. Since the knowledge is there, the technology is there, the facilities are there. That's what we need to do. Since the British initially wanted to keep native South Africans out of the socioeconomic sphere, and refused to properly teach and transfer their advancements to us, we need to just take that and apply it in our lives.
Well said, good post. Going further, I would also add: we need to stop judging things based on who created/built them, regardless of whether they were English, Boers, Dutch, etc. And try to separate what is good, what is useful and can benefit the entire country. Overcome resentment (and overthrow those who have profited from it for 30 years to stay in power), stop using it as a crutch to keep moving forward, and focus on moving forward, and developing ourselves and the country as well. However, no one should be fooled... the right path takes time, a lot of time, and effort, and yes, it demands altruism from one or two generations for it to work... Today's citizens will have to choose to shoulder the hard part, to start the journey, so that their grandchildren and great-grandchildren can reap the fruits, when the "tree" is ready to bear fruit... In this, you can believe, there will be a path to greater prosperity and freedom for ALL of South Africa and not just for one or another group.
so sad to see the state of the citys and everything so clean and well kept ..and know you cant walk down town at night ... trains are hazard and tracks are destroyed .these people took a lovely working city and destroyed it ... from public sector to roads ..to municipalities and police ..all falling apart ... but hey ... from the bush to the bush.. evolving to devolving ...they cant change this is proof..given keys to a working city and destory it in 25 years..and still blame the old system. its all they can do
In comments on TH-cam and other social media (together with people I have met in person throughout my life) enjoy moaning about the glory days of the old South Africa and how much they miss it. Yet the majority of them were born long after 1994! Weirdos.... 🤨😄
I was born in s.a grew up in israel than went back many times and stayed there for a wile i allways remember it as the most beutiful place in the world..i never agreed with aparthied specialy the petty sparthied but i do think deviding the country was the right idea,its a big country with enough for everyone giving it over to the anc was a big mistake ,now that i see this video i see how right i was. To turn this paradise in to a garbadg can Why??!! Iknow there must have been a better solusion!
Alladan habar. AFRICA halyk narod people jana jaye TAIMYR TUNDRA TAIGA KEREMET TABIGI JERLER. Akzer Alla Qajy Mekkeden Prezident OOH Akzer Bekzatova Nursultan Astana OOH AFRIKA.
Yep exactly. Large brain drain en masse of multitudes of skilled white workers (mainly British) just took up and left South Africa with their belongings on their back!
The bad evil days of apartheid where slavery was still legal. And only the minority had excess to resources when others were exploited to hard labour and little pay. Thank God those days are forever gone. 🙌😁
GGGHAHAHA atleast all the national hospitals were functioning. Eskom was functional. SAA was functional. DENEL was functional. TransNET was functional. Damn, everything was still maintained and functional. The economy was 5 times stronger. Atleast 20% of blacks became unemployed since apartheid was replaced by corruption & the black version of apartheid "BEE". Apartheid was a million times better than this corruption we now face. The real detrimental evil days are now.
@Neil Van Zyl maybe deprive for those who are use to privileges all their life know we playing on the same playfield and you can't keep up it seems. 🤔😁
@Neil Van Zyl all I'm saying is that apartheid was wrong and it wasn't fair I just want everyone to get along and work together to make Africa 🌍 🙏 great how can we do this together Neil?
Ask any old black and they will acknowledge it was much better then. Many have been murdered by their own . There was no starvation then as is the case now on a grand scale. Do your homework. It was unjust but still the lesser of 2 evils.
Do "you people" Anthony believe that there is no racial bigotry and aparteid now when a highly qualified white,Indian or Coloured person is forced to wash cars for a living whilst the Black"executives" are unable to run the main utility suppliers let alone a country?
It looks beautiful, until you realise that as a mixed race person living in South Africa in the 70s, my parents feared for their lives as well as mine as a baby. I would rather walk around freely Ina decrepit South Africa, than as a fearful slave in a pristine one.
the only ones that feared for their lives were the ones who got involved in left wing politics drugs violence and rioting the rest of us got on just fine
Have you tried walking around Hillbrow lately? I got lost there a few years ago, trying to drive to Jan Smuts Airport. It was dusk. I was getting very low on petrol......I was the only White in a sea of Blacks.... shitting myself with genuine fear.
What blood spilled? You mean the Anglo Boer war. The 2 of them or Shaka Zulu who killed 2 million of its own people. Or Mugabe who slaughtered 300 000 Ndebeles. Or the ANC killing off the opposition before election?
you need to broaden your horizons Mandela orchestrated many killings from his prison cell one in particular nasty bombing took place in Pretoria 1983 where the bomber sold a pup for a few rands got blown in half gory pic's still available on the internet that is the face of Mandela and the ANC conveniently forgotten by the communist media
You mean when the ANC and Mangosuthu went at each other and killed each other by the thousands in the late 80's and early 90's. Or when the ANC were necklacing people because they didnt not want to vote ANC? Do you mean that blood spilled?
INABILITY and CORRUPTION destroyed this wonderful Country ,the ANC.Hopefully the people wake up and vote for something better. Not even South African airways is existing anymore,NO APARTHEID but a Mixed Goverment with Boers, indians, black and coulerds could bring the change and the peace we need to build up a better South Africa.
Traffic lights worked, & motorists, cyclists & pedestrians appeared to heed them. Everyone, black, white or who ever, seemed to look better dressed & carried themselves with more dignity. And I didn't notice any litter.
No that is White Supremacy.
Such a great country. Still is despite negativity.
@@Will-nb8qk And allied with Russia.
I'm American, but my mother was from South Africa. When I was a kid back in the 70s we traveled there a few times to visit the relatives. Sure was a great country. I still remember it vividly. It's so sad how it's deteriorated into a huge slum. RIP to a once great nation.
@@nativetexanfulSo you just ran away when things got tough? Many white, especially British, South Africans did that. They took up their stuff and left. Massive brain drain. This quality of the British empire is exactly why many of its former colonies collapse as soon as the British leave. The British have absolutely no concept of transferring the advanced technology and knowledge they've gained to a new region and people. Read on the Moors and how they handled colonising a country, and you'll realise why centuries later, Spain is still a technologically advanced developed nation.
It's sad how the country and most cities turned out once the ANC took over.They can't govern.
Nowadays even black people are saying it was better under Apartheid.
It's Blacks in general, not just the ANC.
@@nativetexanful capper
@@nativetexanful bullshit
ANC can't rule , period... the only issue back then was apartheid
Wow!… Looks like a civilized, developed & orderly country!… What have these people done to this beautiful country?
The ANC trashed it unfortunate
Mess it up because their brains are messed with greed
Mess it up because their brains are messed with greed
@@jennifervenkatasamy3003 the you know what’s, brains 🧠 work well when it comes to matters of theft.
I agree 💯👍
I remember as a kid hanging around Joubert Park and Hillbrow in the night, it was so safe and full of vibe
me too 1978 as a young woman I hung around there for the day having got off the cape town to joburg train was flying to UK that evening so got the airport bus and felt very safe!
@@Daisy-tl2lh good old days😁👍👍
Those were good days for ALL
@@herbertderbersfield5870 yes those were wonderful days for all races of all kind with equal rights to everyone. Your memory is very good
@@armandpretorius3378 I didn’t say equal rights, I said it was a better life for all of us including blacks. There was surplus, we were one of the richest countries in the world, the cup runneth over, the poor were not as poor as they are in 2022.. Black people saw this and wanted equality they said. Whites gave them equality through a referendum. What did they do with equality? They slayed the golden goose, they pillaged the golden eggs. The standard of living has plummeted to that of a poor country, we are all poorer. @Armand Pretorius, don’t argue dear boy. Mine eyes have seen the glory.
So many great memories. Sad it's all changed 💔
Crazy how the bicycles are just left in the middle of a metropolitan and nobody touches it. As soon as there is order the blacks try and call it racism.
Wow ! . Became quite emotional watching that , esp that view of Braamfontein. Walked up that road thousands of times. Thank you ANC for destroying my country.
Texas checking in... Could you pinpoint your view you remember with the exact time of the frame in the video ... thanks!!
Oh shit you made me look more closely ( large screen ) at the footage and oh dear I am wrong. It's not the view looking up to Braamfontein. Looks a lot like it but the grainy footage and my memory played tricks on me. Sorry.
LOL At my age Old Miami Beach looks like the Austin Highway of my youth...Cheers!
@@Kharkovkid u 2 r hilarious , don't u know
Your country
The most beautiful country in the world: I love RSA and its people.
Good old days...
It's not only the RSA. Until the 1980s, western germany was safe & secure. We didn't even need police stations in most rural areas.
Nowadays, the flood gates have been opened, gun laws have been tightened and everything is miserable. In my town, a midsized city, white girls won't come out no more throughout the week after dusk hits. No business opportunities whatsoever as well! It's all so tiresome...
This is the South Africa I want back... I actually grew up there 1991-1993, still got relatives in KZN!
@dragoslavdelavega558
Yes, in Western Europe!
Wow it looks like Africans had access to a better life than they have nowadays. So cool 😎
You mean Whites.
Yes it's not like they were shot and prevented from any higher education or any right to political freedom. Definitely much better then than now. I don't understand how anyone can make this comment without cringing even a little bit
They were segregated and lived in shabby townships. They had to have a pass to go into white areas. If they didn't have a pass then they were arrested. The prisons were hellholes of torture. Those were the "good old days" for whites, but not for blacks.
@@armandpretorius3378 😂
@@armandpretorius3378 Yes blacks have definitely a better life nowadays in SA.
They should change SA's name, it died when the Anc took over.
In that Hillbrow Tower at the top was a beautiful revolving restaurant. My boyfriend then husband now, took me there just before everything stopped. It was sooo glamorous.
Go see it now 😂
glamouours for white people only!
@Neil Van Zyl Me and those who see unique value in every human and have conscience for humanity.
@@sindimatrix I don't think it was a race issue but a money issue...
@@andrewdutoit9571 both
Calm ,peace n clean n most respect
Today u can't walk free u will get mugged
Those day r da best days
"Make South Africa Great Again"
Eish ! Jah neh !! No street vendors, no one urinating in public and lots of respect for traffic rules. The trains ! what happened to our trains. Streets were clean , and one cn ago on and on and on
it looked developed, clean and safe, not anymore a shame
Developed, clean and safe for the city centres and the white areas............ the townships had poor sanitary conditions, little or no electricity, appaling crime and murder rates, but hey that was only the black native majority eh?
They were better off then than now.
John Davis
Who do you think must take the blame for the " appaling [sic] crime and murder rates" in the black townships? The whites? Apartheid? The blacks living there?
Much worst now for the black people in those places, see for yourself and listen what many black people who live there say about the current system
@@johndavis7941 Why do you think there was Influx Control in the old days? It was to control the movement of people, if your Township was designed for 10 thousand inhabitants and it gets flooded by 100 thousand people what happens, you do the math. That's why it went haywire with crime etc because if there isn't work or accomodation for all the system breaks down. I could tell you more but space is prohibiting.
Ah. the good old days when we had trains, clean streets, electricity and it was safe for women to walk alone.
It’s a pity they introduced apartheid because that was always going to dam up issues until they were released in one foul swoop.
The trains !!! I would save my pocket my pocket money to buy a first-class ticket and enjoy a train ride from Datsward station to Springs. Ohh what a feeling. Can still remember some of the stations between Dansward and Springs __ Anzac, Apex, Pollack park, etc. And then came democracy.
I'm from a previously marginalized part of the population, and even I long for the order, safety and clean streets of the CBD's. It definitely wasn't Nelson Mandela's doing though. After he successfully won the hearts of 99% of the nation with a peaceful transition to an all inclusive democracy, something very strange crept in, but he was too old and tired to even notice it. So now everyone finally had the right to go anywhere they pleased, The homeless slowly infiltrated the inner CBD's thinking it was a place of instant prosperity, and ended up sleeping in many business doorways at night. Being from Cape Town I was saddened, untill I accidentally landed up in central Johannesburg City, that was shocking!!
I think had apartheid ended 20-30 years earlier and we had a whole generation that grew up under Mandela, things could’ve been so much better
We were getting there. Most of the segregation laws were repealed during the 80s and Indians and coloureds were given representation in '84. It was flinging everything open to the you-know-whats that killed everything off.
@@charthistorian1690 How? It would have just ended things that much quicker. The problem was one-man-one-vote. You-know-whats weren't ready for democracy in 1994. What makes you think they'd have been ready in 1964?
Mandela wasn’t too tired or too old. He was in fact a fool. Here is a testament to his foolishness th-cam.com/video/HAYRJ7t_cwY/w-d-xo.html
@@charthistorian1690It could have as P.W.Botha offered Mandela his freedom if he gave up the struggle but Mandela's English Handler advised against it.
South Africa was on the way to become another America
It already was - they had Sharpeville, the USA had Mississippi and lynchings.
With a majority white population, it would have
yes but greed,racism,bigotry of the white minority led to the point we now in.
@@krishnagovender9661 HAHAHAHAH YOU ARE VERY FUNNY, UNINFORMED BUT FUNNY. THE 25 YEARS THE ANC HAS BEEN RUNNING THIS COUNTRY , HAS MADE THIS COUNTRY THE WAY IT IS. WAKE UP AND SEE THE LIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@johndavis7941 can I just say how glad I am that there is at least one person in this comment section that isn't a complete bigot and has some common sense. My god, what is wrong with these people?
Now it's a sewer.
The top of the Carlton, great nights dancing the night away, after a world class meal at the three ships restaurant in the Carlton Hotel…
Great sharing, beautiful footage...
There was only one ''rich'' South Africa until 1980, because during the 1970s many things happened that went against the maintenance of South Africa with that (very expensive) separation regime.
The minority government should have dealt with this without expecting anything in return from the US, the UK and the UN... anyway, that time for resolving things has really passed.
It was just like in europe
Neat and clean. Not anymore. Back then it was safe to take a train to work.
Yeah, for white people. What about the majority of country whose lives were not only undermined by the apartheid regime but was also in danger?
Who kept it clean for a minimum wage
as a teenager I used to attend cape town college every day in Plein St CBD I never properly appreciated what a wonderful ride it was from the southern sub's through wynberg and newlands with the warm sun rising over the hottentots on the mountain by the afternoon the sun was behind the mountain so it appeared misty
Even the black people look very civilized and educated, but we know the real truth behind that.
Wonder if there were rich Africans back then?
Sadly they think freedom means freedom to destroy. 😢
Look how little litter there is ; just shows you
First class nation. Used to be.
For the whites
So its now a 2nd world country for everyone. LOL...progress
Actually the black people were far better off on a socio-economic basis. Ask any older black person - they would go back to those days in an instant.
Hi Lendl,
Do you have any data to support your claim that blacks were better off socio-economically?
+Justin Glick The information is everywhere, and the Zulu king is quoted saying the same!
Looked very nice then.
I like the sound track $ transport retro models...
Before Mandela , it was very nice , just like how the middle east was beautiful and normal before Islam and America was amazing before socialism and extreme liberalism
im from casablanca morocco and i agree our country also was very clean and prosperous in the 1970's sadly everything changed since the 80's all the parks and green spaces were abandoned and the crime and the ignorance increased severly and the level of life falled :(
Im sorry but arent the dirty shanty towns still apart of South Africa? So that meant your South Africa wasnt no great country anyway if ALL citizens couldn't get equal treatment.
ZAKAZEE All citizens did have equal treatments. People living in "poor areas" were economic migrants without citizenship
There's no socialism in America you idiot
How has that improved 24 years later? The shanty towns have mushroomed and citizens who pay most of the taxes are not treated equally
To think we once had fully functional train and bus services.
Wow, White and black folks were actually allowed to share the same side walk? I have been told that this was prohibited by the apartheid laws!
Among many other lies no doubt. The system wasn't perfect but at least we didn't live in a hate filled stinking sewer like today. Big time fail ANC, but they blame the whites, meantime they've been in control for24 years and reduced the country from what you see here to a trash heap.
Beer Stein The communist regime would tell the black folk any lies to entice racial conflicts
The communist ANC regime has been destroying the once beautiful and prosperous first world South Africa which you see in the video to a third world garbage dump it is today
Christopher Krüger The same thing is happening in America. The Left want to divide and conquer by using fear, race-bating to gas light the public to believe that capitalism is wrong. The Left and specifically Hollywood spread false propaganda about Apartheid.
It wasn't feasible to build seperate walkways for whites, africans, indians, & coloureds. Buses, pubs, restaurants, etc were a different thing, however
That doesn't look like a racist society to me just a different class system.
LMAO. That's what you think. You only see people there because shit is not going down between them.
were you actually there?
It was racist and cruel.
@@SymphonyBrahms . ........and today South Africa has more race based laws than ever existed in Apartheid. Minorities are denied jobs on the basis of their skin colour, the unemployment rate is skyhigh, 80 murders a day, corruption is rife, rolling blackouts. The cruelty of the ANC is way worse.
It's funny how there's no even one white person walks in town on foot now adays
From first world country to pariah nation- just in 27 years
370 years ,destroyed in 30,well done!
Cool soundtrack!
It would be THE go-to if it still existed
The municipalities today are degraded... as much or more than in those days.
And even under the NP government (yes, apartheid should not have existed), housing and employment conditions were still far... but far superior to those of socialist neighbors, such as Mozambique, Zimbabwe and Swaziland...
These are very different realities, socio-economic and geographical conditions... not to mention the very different historical context.
And not just South Africa, Namibia should also not follow the ruinous path that Rhodesia was led on (with a lot of support from the UN and London, remember).
This does not mean the return of a government as it was until 1994.... but it is still possible to fight for a better future, the country is still young and not as big (and heavy) as Brazil or Mexico, for example.
Yes, it can improve. It's not easy... but it's not impossible either.
Beautiful and clean......then the cANCER happened.......😲😲😲😢😢😢😢😢 IT TURNED INTO A DIRTY HOVEL.......
Used to be the powerhouse of the region. Now the dustbin of Africa. Sad.
Everything so clean and orderly people are well dressed and walking on the sidewalk
now they just wander in the street crossing whenever they want causing hazards to oncoming traffic
now there’s trash all over the streets potholes, graffiti all over the buildings empty offices because companies keep going out of business because of the horrifying economic situation
I wonder what happened 32 years ago 🤫
I was just 10 years old then
THIS VIDEO IS TRIPPY !
Smells oppression
@@tfmkhonza5084 dummy
Omg.....what has happened since ?
Freedom for all races has happened.
love them or hate them the boers did keep the communists at bay ... and when the communists arrived the corruption and filth came too! in the words of President Trump everything they touch turns to sh!t
All good and well. However this generation was raised by them ... go figure. What a mess they created.
I lived here and was preparing to leave SA...I eventually got out(escaped lol) in 1984...I left just in time, before the ROT lol
What happened to South-Africa?
It’s been falling since around 1994.
@@MrEnigma201 because whites left it that way.
It's been Africanised.......and what an 'improvement'! Viva ANC viva. Viva Corruption.
Freedom for all races happened.
@SymphonyBrahms Yes...However this freedom brought tribalism, corruption, mass poverty, the highest crime rate in the world, laws that discriminate....the list goes on...but lets just sweep that under the rug and pretend that the new South-Africa is a miracle and not the fate of any first world nation that implements assimilation.
Good old days
Not really...
So funny
For those who were European that is.
@@maureenjackson2041 thank you. someone who actually knows that the country was racist
@@maureenjackson2041so what has changed? Spiritual freedom means nothing without physical freedom.
What was the name of the city or town that was in the video (South Africa 1970's)
Hi can I request this video for a personal project im working on?
Hello KarmaCoconuts, would love to chat to you about using a few pieces of the videos for a mix? Could you let me know how to contact you?
What's your email ?
Women walking alone in the CBD. Try that today.
I think some still do.......R20 for a blow-job, I'm told.
كانت ملئية بالحظارة 😔 اين وصلت الان
If ANC didn't exist Cape Town would have looked like London today
You mean if it was in white hands.
Cape Town is the only city in the country that still looks first world since it’s the only one not ran by the ANC
This music is so gloomy. I like it.
My, my, just look how clean it is everywhere! What happened in the mean time? Oh yeah, the New South Africa happened! Those were the clean, save, disciplined and horror days of apartheid!
Any who knows the song
Look guys both Black and white, let's not argue and be racist because of a video that was taken years ago.... I understand that South Africa is a garbage country but blame government for that, not a race because the white DA isn't doing a good job in the
Western Cape. To those who say SA was a 1st world country during Apartheid, please stop being naive because that because that's ain't true. A country can't be considered first world if 80% of the population if not enfranchised while 19% live in prosperity..... let's wait for a better generation to take the reigns and show you what a first world country looks like
had whites not become racist i bet things would hv still been this way till today. But their segregation and continously labelling blacks as animals and not wanted in certain sections of the country resulted in resentment and rebellion.
Not all whites were racist, just to be clear and we have been a free country for more than 25 years. Now we have racists back in the government, using the pain of the people to fill their own pockets, while the voters starve in the streets, the political elites plunder state wealth given to it by the people, blaming white people saying it's white peoples fault they are starving. Corruption and evilness comes in all skin colours.
@Joepie De poepie We r not debating about whether there was nothing or something before whites came. The point is when they came to southern africa they drove the natives from their land and segregated people and this segregation caused resentment & rebellion. I dont know what part dont u understand there. U go on and call me a fool. I choose to remain polite and civil and thereby allow anyone who looks at this conversation with you to see who is civil and who isnt.
@@silentlessons4221It's called evolution and survival of the fittest. When you fight against nature, you destroy it.
@@silentlessons4221 Very much true. All the whites had to do was transform the natives, introduce them to their technology and advancements in good faith and cause cultural flourishing for all. Educate the natives with a high standard education, and so on. If you've seen what the Moors did in Spain once they captured it from the Germanic tribes, this is what the British should have done with the natives.
First class to no class !!
This looks like Johanesburg
How could such a developed is destroyed by ignorants and delusional people
Who destroyed the beauty of Johannesburg?
Black
Black
The idiots so kind of u to ask
@@wildearth3992 your racist so you proved it.
@@FGV_Gravity wow you people really are like your grandparents from the era.
This is definitely JOHANNESBURG I saw 👀 it's LONG BRIXTON TOWER.
Make South Africa Great Again!
There was a lot off bees in 70s mos
Truth be told, us black South Africans can’t manage anything, let alone build😭😭😭
You know what I think we need? We need to go back and look at all the technology and principles and ways of life that the British brought in 1910. And then adopt it and implement it, sort of a Renaissance for black people. Since the knowledge is there, the technology is there, the facilities are there. That's what we need to do. Since the British initially wanted to keep native South Africans out of the socioeconomic sphere, and refused to properly teach and transfer their advancements to us, we need to just take that and apply it in our lives.
Well said, good post.
Going further, I would also add: we need to stop judging things based on who created/built them, regardless of whether they were English, Boers, Dutch, etc.
And try to separate what is good, what is useful and can benefit the entire country. Overcome resentment (and overthrow those who have profited from it for 30 years to stay in power), stop using it as a crutch to keep moving forward, and focus on moving forward, and developing ourselves and the country as well.
However, no one should be fooled... the right path takes time, a lot of time, and effort, and yes, it demands altruism from one or two generations for it to work... Today's citizens will have to choose to shoulder the hard part, to start the journey, so that their grandchildren and great-grandchildren can reap the fruits, when the "tree" is ready to bear fruit...
In this, you can believe, there will be a path to greater prosperity and freedom for ALL of South Africa and not just for one or another group.
so sad to see the state of the citys and everything so clean and well kept ..and know you cant walk down town at night ... trains are hazard and tracks are destroyed .these people took a lovely working city and destroyed it ... from public sector to roads ..to municipalities and police ..all falling apart ... but hey ... from the bush to the bush.. evolving to devolving ...they cant change this is proof..given keys to a working city and destory it in 25 years..and still blame the old system. its all they can do
erratum, that should read Johannesburg CBD for the most.
Was better under Apartheid
@@silvergriffin2585 ok libtard
For whites.
For Whites
@@thobelamene5080 But now it's......what's the word......oh yes, a shit-hole. Would you call that 'progress'?
@@thobelamene5080 Can you please explain , in the light of your comment , the service delivery protests. Thanks .
You are not born in Africa, Africa is born in you…..
This is not South Africa, you are joking
Yes, it is South Africa! First world country then and now sadly third world!
In comments on TH-cam and other social media (together with people I have met in person throughout my life) enjoy moaning about the glory days of the old South Africa and how much they miss it. Yet the majority of them were born long after 1994! Weirdos.... 🤨😄
Whitey sentimental about apartheid in the comments.
I was born in s.a grew up in israel than went back many times and stayed there for a wile i allways remember it as the most beutiful place in the world..i never agreed with aparthied specialy the petty sparthied but i do think deviding the country was the right idea,its a big country with enough for everyone giving it over to the anc was a big mistake ,now that i see this video i see how right i was. To turn this paradise in to a garbadg can Why??!! Iknow there must have been a better solusion!
Wow, before crime
When others were not allowed to vote; and had to use separate toilets
Until the thugs got released and messed up SA.
...b4 the clueless & non-creative took over
You can prove your racism. Clueless and Non Creative Blacks right?
Alladan habar. AFRICA halyk narod people jana jaye TAIMYR TUNDRA TAIGA KEREMET TABIGI JERLER. Akzer Alla Qajy Mekkeden Prezident OOH Akzer Bekzatova Nursultan Astana OOH AFRIKA.
It's a shame that black people didn't get to keep this wealth after apartheid ended as promised. The money left Joburg CBD with the white people.
this is exactly what we said would happen the white people were the main employers when they left it was dog eat dog
Yep exactly. Large brain drain en masse of multitudes of skilled white workers (mainly British) just took up and left South Africa with their belongings on their back!
The bad evil days of apartheid where slavery was still legal. And only the minority had excess to resources when others were exploited to hard labour and little pay. Thank God those days are forever gone. 🙌😁
GGGHAHAHA atleast all the national hospitals were functioning. Eskom was functional. SAA was functional. DENEL was functional. TransNET was functional. Damn, everything was still maintained and functional. The economy was 5 times stronger. Atleast 20% of blacks became unemployed since apartheid was replaced by corruption & the black version of apartheid "BEE". Apartheid was a million times better than this corruption we now face. The real detrimental evil days are now.
@@WatchInVR1 atleast the white don't rule over us.
@You know where I like it... God bless you we are all God's beautiful people. You will find out after you leave your beautiful body 😁
@Neil Van Zyl maybe deprive for those who are use to privileges all their life know we playing on the same playfield and you can't keep up it seems. 🤔😁
@Neil Van Zyl all I'm saying is that apartheid was wrong and it wasn't fair I just want everyone to get along and work together to make Africa 🌍 🙏 great how can we do this together Neil?
Im here for "good old days" comments
Those were the good old days...
Good old days! It was wonderful, clean and safe for everybody!
How sad for you.
Just read these sickening comments about the "good old days". You people have no morality in you to think it was "better" under apartheid.
go live in South Africa today
I grew up there 1958 - 1970, there was law and order, now just a wasteland.
Ask any old black and they will acknowledge it was much better then. Many have been murdered by their own . There was no starvation then as is the case now on a grand scale. Do your homework. It was unjust but still the lesser of 2 evils.
It was a better life for ALL under apartheid. My black housekeeper told me so many many times over. Even Julius Malema has stated this fact.
Do "you people" Anthony believe that there is no racial bigotry and aparteid now when a highly qualified white,Indian or Coloured person is forced to wash cars for a living whilst the Black"executives" are unable to run the main utility suppliers let alone a country?
It looks beautiful, until you realise that as a mixed race person living in South Africa in the 70s, my parents feared for their lives as well as mine as a baby. I would rather walk around freely Ina decrepit South Africa, than as a fearful slave in a pristine one.
the only ones that feared for their lives were the ones who got involved in left wing politics drugs violence and rioting the rest of us got on just fine
I agree with you. All the people talking about it was better for everyone back then. Joke your making. It was terrible for non whites.
Have you tried walking around Hillbrow lately? I got lost there a few years ago, trying to drive to Jan Smuts Airport. It was dusk. I was getting very low on petrol......I was the only White in a sea of Blacks.... shitting myself with genuine fear.
@@hairybear7705 Then don't drive through there anymore.
You got your wish then, thoroughly decrepit, with the freedoms of a declining mafia state. You must be the only one feeling safer...
Europeans Walked so freely on African blood spilled soil
What blood spilled? You mean the Anglo Boer war. The 2 of them or Shaka Zulu who killed 2 million of its own people. Or Mugabe who slaughtered 300 000 Ndebeles. Or the ANC killing off the opposition before election?
you need to broaden your horizons Mandela orchestrated many killings from his prison cell one in particular nasty bombing took place in Pretoria 1983 where the bomber sold a pup for a few rands got blown in half gory pic's still available on the internet that is the face of Mandela and the ANC conveniently forgotten by the communist media
You mean when the ANC and Mangosuthu went at each other and killed each other by the thousands in the late 80's and early 90's. Or when the ANC were necklacing people because they didnt not want to vote ANC? Do you mean that blood spilled?
today shows why some nations have a need for masters
Would you be willing to become a slave? I doubt it.
@@SymphonyBrahms your mind to small to comprehend revulate
Who destroyed the beauty of Johannesburg?
Communist terrorists ANC
Apartheid destroyed everything beautiful in South Africa.
@@SymphonyBrahms . The ANC and its voters did that, but it doesnt to help to point that out to one with popcorn for brains like you ne?
INABILITY and CORRUPTION destroyed this wonderful Country ,the ANC.Hopefully the people wake up and vote for something better. Not even South African airways is existing anymore,NO
APARTHEID but a Mixed Goverment with Boers, indians, black and coulerds could bring the change and the peace we need to build up a better South Africa.