Been listening to your music on repeat (which is 10/10) and "Pretty" is my favorite so far. Your falsetto reminded me of FKA twigs in how haunting it is but I didn't want to say anything. Now that I've seen that lovely bit in the intro though... =P Jokes aside, you have such a wide and amazing range in music taste.
Regina George never would've outright told a girl not to "breath the same air as her". She would've started rumors about her and made her life awful in indirect ways because that takes power.
Regina would accumulate information about you and start spreading rumors and just so you move out of school from bullying just so she won't have to breath the same air as you Chad Regina vs virgin whoever the fuck the antagonist of the second movie was
Like one thing about the OG Mean Girls is that despite Regina's bitchiness, she was still like a real person if that makes any sense. Mandi is so cartoonishly a villain that it is hard to take her seriously at all. Regina, for all her faults and bad bitchery, was still just another girl at the school with her own family, insecurities, and things like that who became popular overtime and Mandi is... Mandi.
I think it's kinda like what Kennie brought up, and is that she actually had stuff to do in her life other than policing every single person in the school. In one, you have someone people gravitate towards despite her bitchiness (or even because of it). In this one you have this annoying, try-hard who inserts herself into Jo's life b/c she's the main character.
Also, Kady was genuinely clueless about her charisma when she started school. So having Regina (and Janis) taking her under her wing for personal interest was realistic. In this movie, Joe is beyond annoying and cocky in the most superficial way. The "not like the other girls" girls aren't likable in real life. Nobody would care about her like that. And Janis had a realistic beef with Regina. They were friends but she felt betrayed and they fell apart. She also wasn't perfect. She also used Kady and wanted revenge. In this movie, Abbie is perfect (and doesn't have much personality). She and Mandy were friends but Abbie was so rich, so pretty and so nice and popular that Mandy got jealous so now the whole school hates Abbie. Why would they even hate her? Because.
yeah like the OG movie makes a point that in the end, regina was just another girl caught up the high school hierarchy. meanwhile this movie ends with the mean girl literally getting arrested lmao
i think the BIGGEST difference and what pissed me off the MOST about this movie, is that in Mean Girls.... Cady isn't a Pick me // I'm not like other girls. she's an outsider because of her upbringing but everything that's "not like other girls-ish" about her is justifiable, and she also does not use these things to be like "UHUH i'm so cool and different & girls suck". she's genuine and she actually ends up liking a bunch of stuff other girls enjoy. and her being foreign to all of these things is used to deliver and question a lot of things girls go through -- complexes, self esteem issues, pettiness, bullies and frenemies relationships. In mean girls 2 she's just a pick me. no nuances, no excuses. she's just an infuriating pick me and it completely destroys and undermines the message of the initial movie.
@wanderlust and the mean girls were actually MEAN and realistic. Karen was pushing it but I can totally see someone saying dumb shit like “if you’re from Africa why are you white?”
@@__L__837 fa real tho... When I moved high school (imma military brat) this guy asked me if black people really exist in Oklahoma. After I said I lived there for eleven years 🤦🏿♀️
I just realized how Cady's character was used as a literary device. In Harry Potter, Harry is written as a blank slate/ fish out of water character so that the wizarding world can be explained to the audience through him without it being weird. In many ways, Mean Girls is written in the same format, with the use of Cady as a fish out of water. This is interesting, because though this device is popular in fantasy storytelling, it's rarely used in realistic fiction. This is because in realistic fiction, the audience is presumed to already be familiar with "the real world". Mean Girls, however, does not take this presumption for granted. Patriarchal values are so deeply ingrained in our society that it can be hard to notice how they influence our perception of each other. It's like asking a fish what what water is. Cady's character allows the movie to introduce us to our own society with fresh eyes, challenging us to question our own internalized misogyny. I think that's what made Mean Girls strike a chord with so many people. Mean Girls 2 doesn't challenge the audience at all. It actually reinforces the audience's internalized misogyny.
Mandi was just rude, the Mean part about Regina was that she seemed so nice and sweet while she really wasn't. The fake complements are way meaner than "don't breathe the same air I breathe" shit.
Regina was so charismatic that I even found myself rooted for at times despite her bitchiness, I completely understand why people are her school would gravitate towards her. Mandi had nothing. No charisma, not intimidating, I can see why people would be around her if she was intimidating, nothing. Irl no one would give her the time of day the writers think were stupid 🙄
Mandy looks like the most popular girl in church, not the most popular girl in highschool. She doesn’t look bad or anything, but who did wardrobe for this??
Omg right? I don’t think the movie knew it’s target audience. It felt like they were trying to dress them to be “modest” enough for a kids show even though this movie had pg-13 themes
Which is crazy because if you watch any BTS footage of Mean Girls, a significant amount of consideration went in to the wardrobe for the Plastics, Cady and even Janice. The clothes those girls wore directly reflected the personalities of the characters they played on screen the way our fashion choices reflect facets of our personality in real life. Should have just copied the outfits while they were copy and pasting the rest of the original movie too.
*I think it's safe to assume MOST highschoolers are virgins, or are having their VERY FIRST sexual experience. Movies make it seem like if you're a virgin in high-school, you're wayyyy behind, socially... No, dude. You're right where everyone else is.* 😳
If they'd made a statement about her NOT being a virgin that may have been at least a little more realistic. Most teens don't actually care, but if you're going to mock an american girl for her sexuality then it better be slutshaming or it just completely breaks any suspension of disbelief
i was virgin shamed in high school, albiet passively and more behind my back. But i agree sl-tshaming is much more prevelant than virginshaming in an American high school setting.
That was my FIRST question! She's about to graduate anyway, and although it's maybe too late to enroll at a new school, why not just hire private tutors for that final semester? Her dad apparently can offer college tuition to some random girl on a whim; a tutor's hourly rate is, guaranteed, a cheaper and wiser investment.
My thing is, if she was so much wealthier and “better” than Mandi, why wasn’t SHE the most popular girl in school? Just because she’s not super thin and clumsy? That’s not how actual high school works at all.
@@cheesecake134 I mean, in real life people get bullied for no reason, but bad luck. It does not really matter who you are you can get bullied either way. That is like the one thing I do not agree as a viewer. Children (teenagers) can be bitches no matter what. Being rich and white does not automatically mean that you are immune to bullies.
Ooh let me add to the weird high school sex trope discourse. The Atlantic or Vanity Fair had a good article on this, but basically teens and young adults (s/o to my 20 something year olds) have way less sex than their parents and there parents parents. Which tracks as for why the people making this movie have no clue how much dating culture has shifted. In the 1950s post WWII young people were more concerned about losing potential partners to the draft so they began dating more and investing in relationships which was a departure from the old courting and casual dating sphere. That generation of high schoolers had the most sex and the highest teen pregnancy rate. So years of over correcting perhaps and you get us people who were super busy with extracurricular activities like sports, clubs and the economy shifting pressuring kids to be more dedicated to school. It all has changed our amount of free time which is essential as well as shifted attention away from dating. Studies show everyone over estimates how sexually actively their peers are consistently though most likely due to media like this.
Yep, I remember that back when I was in High School (the 90's) there would be at least one teen pregnancy in half the classes, plus two ones in two classes. Now I'm a teacher and there is exactly ONE pregnant student out of 70 classes.
The main character was such a "I'm not like other girls" trope. At least Cady in the original's reasons for not knowing High School etiquette wasn't because she wasn't "like other girls" it's because she was homeschooled in a foreign continent. And also, why is EVERYONE calling them Plastics now? Plastics was a private nickname/insult that only Janis, Damian and Cady knew about.
Cady wasn't "not like other girls", Cady was "not like any normally socialized American kids". That's a HUGE difference that clearly flew over the sequel's head.
The only thing I didn't like about mean girls the original was that that made Africa seem like a continent where animals just roam around and where there's no real infrastructure. ALSO where the hell did Cady come from in Africa, Like... We have countries my guy. And not the mom giving African kids(again, which country are you speaking about?) nutrition bars to help them gain weight. Because everyone in Africa is starving apparently... Side note: sorry in advance for spazzing under your comment
THANK YOU - the virginity trope NEVER made sense to me. Went to multiple high schools from moving around and had friends at different schools. Never once heard of a school where it was scandalous to be a virgin. So dumb.
Fundamentalists I’m pretty sure are funding 90% of this rumor because it’s another way to make themselves look good and holy and put down everyone else
Exactly because most people in high school are virgins. The kids who are sexually experienced, are the minority - and it’s why they are usually the centre of gossip/ nobody gives a f* about a virgin
this made me remember i went over to a friends house for the first time and we watched mean girls 2 because she said it was “better than the original mean girls”. i didn’t realize it at the time but it was such a big red flag 😭😭
Same. This movie occupies that weird place where I forget it exists until I'm reminded of it, I get angry for a while, and then forget it exists once again. It's not even entertainingly bad in the way some bad movies are, it's just...so lazy and poorly written.
“Cheating on her boyfriend in the locker room.” Uhm. Excuse me. But Regina is cheating on Aaron with Shane Omen in the projection room above the auditorium. 😂
I don't understand the fact of somebody being a virgin in highschool being scandalous. In my highschool it was the opposite. It's more scandalous to NOT be a virgin because you're in freaking highschool!!
not going to lie, "it was like all my girl hormones had kicked into overdrive and i was out for blood" got a solid laugh out of me. what on earth is this writing.
What made Regina George work as a character was how realistically intimidating she was. Yes, she did awful things, and said some shitty things as well, but it was never in a straight forward manner. She would compliment someone then gossip about them in the same minute, and it felt so natural. Her on and off switch between bitchness and fakeness made her a force that couldn't be broken. She was always calm, always on point, and always had an attack back, that's what made her so intimidating yet admirable. She was confident, and manipulative, she knew people's weakest points, and used it to her advantage. She was written to be a human that came from a human world where everyone wasn't cartoonishly dumb. Mandy is so cartoonish, it hurts. The whole world of the sequel doesn't make sense. If your character doesn't intimidate the audience, you know you did a bad job, cause Mandy was more hilarious than scary. It's so funny how the creators of the second movie think that's how teens act, dress, and say. In conclusion, never touch mean girls again, never.
i could swear that this is the difference between movies written about women by a woman versus by a man. Idk who actually wrote mean girls 2 but im like 90% sure they were some middle aged man. Mandy was wayyyy too direct in her bitchy mentality and lowkey was a joke while Joe was trying WAYYYYY too hard to be "different." In the original mean girls Regina George was a true bully. Was never direct enough to get into trouble or be directly proven to have done something, but was obvious enough so that you would know it was her who did it. I think a major difference between Mandy and Regina is that in real life when there is a bullying situation between girls, the bully a lot of times is like Regina (sneaky, backhanded compliments, talking behind your back but not to your face, turning people against you) however nobody in reality is like Mandy (or at least nobody who would be a bully would be like Mandy).
Regina's mean girl was so real, the way she would twist Cady's head before she became a plastic was so spot on. Being nice to her but indirectly insulting her then talking behind her back, getting her in a phone fight (or at least misunderstanding) with Gretchen, kissing the guy she liked just to get under her skin and keeping him around for Cady to see, all while pretending to be her friend. That's what most shows and movies don't get right about the mean girl trope because she's not actively out to get you, she brings herself up to be superior even if it means making you else feel inferior.
current high school senior here! nobody cares if you’re a virgin!! people only gossip if you sleep around, even then nobody really cares for the most part
Yeah, I was abstinent in high-school (not that long ago) and no one gave a crap. I just didn't get approached by creeps as much since they knew I wouldn't put out, so winwin.
Makes sense. Like 80% of the students at school are virgins too. I don’t see why people would care. Especially when everyone is basically on the same boat as well. 🤷🏻♀️
I was in high school when Mean Girls came out and no one cared then either. It’s such a stupid trope, and it’s persistent portrayal in media is causing young people to feel like there is something wrong with being a virgin more than their peers are!
On top of *everything* I hate, there's the ending. It's just SO. BAD. In the actual Mean Girls, there's rehabilitation and humanity. It shows development and capacity to change, rather than "ahhh queen villain person got a bad ending yay." There's genuinely more character depth in the ending of Mean Girls than there is in the entirety of this knockoff.
The “fashion” in this is *off* . Like in the original everyone was actually dressed well for their characters and it looked good. This looks like someone raided the set of a Disney tween comedy and then tried to force a bunch of 20 something actors into the clothing from Claire’s that are supposed to be for 13 years olds. And most of the hair stiles they decided to give them emphasize the actors faces in a way that makes them look like they are in their 40’s 😖 Nothing looks right in this 🙃
If they had to make a sequel they should have had some of the original characters come back as teachers and helplessly have to deal with mean girls way more out of control than they were.
I HAAAATE the trope where a financially disadvantaged character does something marginally morally questionable that has some negative impact on a wealthy character who then goes “whyyyyyyyy.” Bitch I’m broke, hell
I have also always hated the 'virginity is shameful' thing too. in middle school it gave me such anxiety watching movies like that and then I got to high school and yeah no one cared. I think statistically most teenagers are virgins all through high school anyways. and looking at is now as an adult I find it highly irresponsible that adults were in some way influencing teens to think they had to have sex to fit in.
I feel you. I think Virginity in adulthood too is nothing to look down upon. It’s a person’s own choice whether they want to have sex, and as vulnerable of a position that puts people in, I’m surprised by the number of people that don’t understand not wanting to jump into sex just for the sake of the experience.
The outfits in this movie made me so angry. The fashion in the OG Mean Girls was so iconic but here it just reminds me of Radio Rebel or 16 Wishes but at least the outfits in those movies were iconic in their own way
The wardrobe is so bad in this movie. The Mean Girls outfits were trendy for the time and encapsulated the character’s personalities well. Meanwhile in this movie, the outfits don’t show the growth of characters, they’re not trendy for the time period, there’s no thought to their individual color palettes, and they’re just plain ugly.
I wish she was a bad ass biker chick, because that would imply she's actually like 22 and just got held back a whoooooole lot somehow and would give her character some kind of actual individuality. Like Never Been Kissed but the adult woman is actually there legitimately and has to deal with highschool with at least a few people knowing she's not a teenager
I think it’s important to know that the original mean girls is based on a book based on female friendships & the psychological warfare within those friendships. like each character is an archetype within the structures of those friendships. that’s why it feels nuanced and is grounded despite how campy/dramatic it can feel, and that’s why also a sequel doesn’t work if it doesn’t understand the material in the first place LOL
exactly. the reason why the original is so good, is because all the mean girls act like real people, they act nice and then talk shit behind your back. meanwhile maddy (or however you spell her name) is so comical. you can't try to make a mean girl, and then just make her a comical supervillain. what the sequel didn't understand is that the original movie isn't about making fun of girly-girls, it's about how young women treat themselves and each other, it's about misogyny, what kids go through in that age etc. and then the sequel is just about this quirky girl making fun of other girls- which isn't the point. in the original, when she came to the new school, she didn't have an opinion on girls or femininity, but in the sequel she does, she already has found her style and what she likes, she isn't like a blank canvas with no real opinions like in the original i'm sorry i ranted, but this sequel really annoys me, there could have been some kind of potential with this, but they instead made it a cheap knock-off
@@anyrija. no you hit it right on the nose!! especially about how the main character in the sequel having established opinions & thoughts on femininity!! and that could've been SO GOOD to have an introspective take of her liking typically masculine things bc they're simply her taste, and a nuanced depiction of how easy it is to hate femininity, when the reality is that what a lot of us find distasteful isn't actually the color pink; its the reaction to pink and its softness being labeled as something awful when its just a normal color. nonetheless, the mean girl wasn't even "mean" like the way regina george was (aka having privileges that come from high-performing femininity, using that to tear down other women, but also being a victim of the system bc as much as she was terrible, it was easy for her to lose her title bc appearance is so fickle yet treated so valuably). sequel girl was like a disney villain in a poorly-shot coming-of-age film LOL. nonetheless, the idea that the opinion of the love interest in the sequel even matters... i hate it, but even that could've been great on seeing a very nuanced take on how performative the "not like other girls" can be if you don't deconstruct it for yourself.
"You ate two funnel cakes, a hot dog, and a bag of kettle corn on our first date...what happened to that girl I met in shop class?" So she's changed in a bad way because she's worried about her health now? XD
Because she’s THIN so she’s already “healthy”. A fat girl would never be praised for eating that way. And she also dressed in more feminine Alt fashion
I know!!I can only imagine all the sugar affecting her teeth and depending on the persons skin, sugar can cause acne too. So like...? Be healthy if you want. Recognise your sugar intake if you want. Nothing wrong with that lol.
so we not gonna talk about how literally half this cast has been on disney channel? johanna was on camp rock (as the mean girl ironically), mandi was on cory in the house, abby of course was on wizards of waverly place, & hope was on the show ‘jonas’ I-- like why all of them😂
currently in high school: nobody cares if you have sex, drink, or smoke it’s really not that big a deal it’s a personal choice some of my friends are stoners and some of my friend are and plan to be sober for the rest of their lives
it makes me so angry that high school movies and tv shows continue to make virginity and sex the main plot point when there are SO MANY other things to talk about in relation to high school
Is your school like an average high school? I'm not an american so I don't really know what affects a school's culture other than the public/private stereotypes
Can we talk about how Mandi dresses like a sweet, 40 year old mom who got her fashion inspiration from a cute cupcake bakery? Remember how in the first Mean Girls the costume designer expressed how clothes automatically describes a person? These, these clothes did not describe the person
God, even the fashion is off. I remember Mean Girls having such a distinct and thought out wardrobe for all the girls, especially the plastics. Mandi just looks like a prep. I put up my middle finger at her
"I dont want you to breathe the same air" Regina George was never so direct and that's why she worked Eta: the school allowed them to publish a story like that in their paper?
I still don’t understand why the producers of this movie thought that making a sequel to the cultural reset that is Mean Girls without having any of the main/iconic characters and themes would be a good idea.
you should do legally blondes!! if I'm remembering right it basically copies the script of legally blonde but it's in high school about elle woods' cousins it's terrible
I distinctly remember watching this movie a few years back and having an out of body experience, at three quarters into the movie I stopped and said “wtf am I doing” then walked away... that’s what I call ✨self care✨
I hate the “not like the other girls” trope, because I was raised by this movies and for a pretty long time I antagonized others girls and tried to be different and doing not feminine stuff so I could be respected by mans, so I have forced myself to like “manly” stuff and dislike “girly” stuff. Conclusion is that I learned more from Barbie than from teen movies that try to pass a feminist vibe with this trope.
RIGHT!!! I used to "hate" pink because I felt like I could never be successfully feminine (body issues) so decided to be the "cool girl" since I was already better friends with more boys when I was younger, despite wanting more girlfriends and wishing I could be the girly girl. I largely blame the fact that the girly girl was always the bully in films/showsv when I was young
@A D Yeah, it is really sad that we still cannot just be ourselves, whether it be rather "traditionally feminine" or more alternative, or most likely, a mixture of both.
Barbie movies have a better feminist message in them and it still doesn't feel as forced like in these type of movies. I believe it has to do with Barbie being a respectful protagonist to other girls if that makes sense idk
The movie reminds me of how I wrote essays in high school: get "inspiration" from some other work, start writing ideas, procrastinate, run out of time and shove all the ideas together.
“Hey did you know your dad offered to pay my tuition because we’re friends? Thats so friggen cool of him, me and my dad were having a pretty hard time.” “Hello, police? I think a girl from my school put sugar and coffee into my dads gas tank. Yeah she kinda has it out for me.” “Did you tell everyone I was a virgin?” The worst part about bad movies is how their conflicts are so easily diverted by common sense and conversation.
I remember watching this when I was younger, my main takeaway was that Regina George felt like a real mean girl. Not just in the things she said, but her tone, the subtle comments, the body language. The mean girls in this movie feel like Disney channel caricatures of the high school bully
Rachel McAdams BODIED that role. She was the perfect mean girl, no other “mean” girl will ever compare to that. Cheryl blossom tried but failed. Id bring up the girl in this movie but who is this bitch? I don’t know.
I remember watching a movie where a dad paid a girl to be his daughter's friend. I never knew I'd actually watched mean girls 2 lmao never would i have thought it was the sequel to mean girls
A majority of the cast are Disney Channel actors which makes so much sense as to why this is so watered down and cliche... Disney definitely had a hand in this. Also fun fact: the actor that played Jo actually played Tess (the mean girl) in Camp Rock, and she did pretty well, while the actor who played mandi played a super nice character in Cory In the House!
It was made by paramount not Disney. Also I partially think it's because they are used to acting a certain way for Disney and they felt like they had to be "edgy" for this except for Jennifer stone who is actually a good actress and has good delivery
At both of the high schools that I went to no one cared if someone had sex. It was more of the relationship drama that was gossiped about, and that only happened in certain circles.
Right? Unless there was some scandal with one of the faculty, I can't think of any "one thing" that a high school would collectively give a shit about.
When I found out the Rachel McAdams was wearing a lace wig for her role of Regina George!!!!!! Now THAT’S how wearing a wig!!! Twilight had no excuse! 😭
it’s so weird bc in the original mean girls, the driving force was that they want to take down regina but cady also wants to fit in. suddenly in this new movie the mc doesn’t want to fit in and doesn’t care about taking down mandi and magically it’s supposed to be a sequel?
Even in my southern ass high school where everybody hooks up together, NOBODY CARES if you’re a virgin. Like I remember one time a few of my classmates were going around being like “have you had sex?” And a lot of people were like “nope”. AND NOBODY CARED
At both high schools I went to, the students saw being a virgin as a negative and if they found out you were a virgin they would just assume you're gay. It was stupid.
I will never forget. The first time I saw this movie it was on DVD. I used to walk to the library and rent movies from them. I took this movie, walked home, and popped into the DVD player. I got 50 minutes into the movie, turned it off, and walked right back to the library to return it. The librarian thought it was hilarious.
@@taylermiller5736 Lindsay Lohan and Amanda Seyfried were the only teenagers in the film, 17 and 18 respectively. Every other main cast high schooler was mid twenties. Shows how talented Amanda and Lindsay were
The 'teenage virgin scandal' trope is ancient. Shows like this make me think the script writer or producer was a teen during the time Little Darlings or Foxes came out and thinks that high school still looks like something out of the late 70s or early 80s. Back when they exploited actual teenage actresses in Hollywood.
Honestly this feels like a movie made by someone who never actually watched mean girls. But instead was told the general idea of what mean girls was about, but without any specific details. And they just so happen to have a script laying around and they just added a few scenes from what they heard to make it seem like it was a sequel to mean girls.
Can we also talk about the trope in these types of movies, that sends the message that it's important and good to be thin and pretty.... But also you're vain and bitchy if you watch what you eat, and pay attention to your diet? Like women just can't win can they (I also just personally hate this trope as somebody who finds having a healthy lifestyle important.. I hate how the trope demonizes paying attention to what you put in your body, and women who make a conscious effort to eat healthier... that's just ultimately such a dirty and gross message)
That’s so true tbh, it’s also apparent in how society will write off women who dress very feminine and wear and like colors like pink as ditzy or dumb or just plain bad, but also paints women who dress more masculine as doing it for the attention of men to be different than “the others.” And of course not even including the internalized misogyny many girls have as a result of these stereotypes, it leads to people like Janis in the first movie. People who have come to hate femininity because they believe that it is the problem and so they strip any of it from their personality or style, etc. I don’t know, it’s just. No matter what a woman does there will be large numbers of critics.
Thank you for speaking about that annoying "youre a virgin so youre an outcast" trope Kennie!! I always found it really disgusting and problematic that grown adults are always writing that trope about teenagers. Like if you think about it, and ADULT wrote a story where TEENAGERS having SEX makes them look GLORIFIED. An Adult wrote a story where a plotline is "this teenager - this KID, didnt have sex and thats seen as bad." Even if the ending message ends up being some weird 180 of that, its still really awkward and gross to me. I'm not even a prude but some of these movies are super shady with it. Absolutely bonkers that this still allowed to happen. The first movie handled it better as it was so over the top it really made you realize how dumb and gross the trope is.
@@KC-ir9fn right? I graduated and turned 18 in 2011 (#TeamVirgo BTW), and I can NOT recall this junior miss Easter parade fuckery being worn by ANY girl I knew.
as someone who has attended and currently attends public school, i can confirm, indeed, mandy would not survive a day. everyone would have made her cry and wanna transfer by the end of day 1
High school teacher here - the way high school is portrayed in movies is so weird! More often than not, the popular kids are popular because (here's a shocker) they are generally nice to others! Also, I'm fairly confident teenagers don't care about being virgins half as much as movies say they do. Seriously, what is Hollywood's obsession with the sexual activity of teenagers? I've also found that kids usually don't get bullied because of the subjects they like or for being smart, they are bullied for how they act (socially awkward or neurodivergent kids more often than not). This is just my experience, of course, but seriously, American movie school is super wild!
I find it unsettling that movies like this would imply that being a virgin in high school means that you're behind. The underlying truth in these movie universes would then be the majority of characters already had sexual experiences in middle school. Yikes. Dunno just also seems a toxic thing to suggest to actual teenagers, hey all the characters are having sex, you better get on that too. Which could pressure young adults into situations they may not want or arent even ready for.
ironically enough, the actress who played jo did a better job as a mean girl in camp rock, the actress who played mandi did a better job as a regular girl in cory in the house and the actress who played abby did a better job as an energetic and eccentric girl in wizards of waverely place so this whole rotation has been miscast
I think a more interesting story could have been if the new girl is the mean girl and when she arrives in the new school she starts stirring things up and the rest of the school is like "not this again, no way is this happening!"
CC updated!
I'm glad you can make inside jokes with yourself about the "having one parent" thing.
Been listening to your music on repeat (which is 10/10) and "Pretty" is my favorite so far. Your falsetto reminded me of FKA twigs in how haunting it is but I didn't want to say anything. Now that I've seen that lovely bit in the intro though... =P
Jokes aside, you have such a wide and amazing range in music taste.
Can you please do perfection on Netflix please it’s BAD you’ll LOVE it
please watch verotika it is insanely bad
@@jelly-dvd you can’t tell us a bad movie and not mention where we can find it 😭
Regina George never would've outright told a girl not to "breath the same air as her". She would've started rumors about her and made her life awful in indirect ways because that takes power.
Exaaaactly. Regina was powerful because she wielded passive aggression like a weapon of mass destruction. She's sweet and nice and scary as hell.
Regina would accumulate information about you and start spreading rumors and just so you move out of school from bullying just so she won't have to breath the same air as you
Chad Regina vs virgin whoever the fuck the antagonist of the second movie was
Good ol relational bullying style
IKR good ol relational bullying
She would've called her home phone when she was out, telling her parents she's from Planned Parenthood.
Like one thing about the OG Mean Girls is that despite Regina's bitchiness, she was still like a real person if that makes any sense. Mandi is so cartoonishly a villain that it is hard to take her seriously at all. Regina, for all her faults and bad bitchery, was still just another girl at the school with her own family, insecurities, and things like that who became popular overtime and Mandi is... Mandi.
I think it's kinda like what Kennie brought up, and is that she actually had stuff to do in her life other than policing every single person in the school.
In one, you have someone people gravitate towards despite her bitchiness (or even because of it). In this one you have this annoying, try-hard who inserts herself into Jo's life b/c she's the main character.
Also, Kady was genuinely clueless about her charisma when she started school. So having Regina (and Janis) taking her under her wing for personal interest was realistic. In this movie, Joe is beyond annoying and cocky in the most superficial way. The "not like the other girls" girls aren't likable in real life. Nobody would care about her like that.
And Janis had a realistic beef with Regina. They were friends but she felt betrayed and they fell apart. She also wasn't perfect. She also used Kady and wanted revenge. In this movie, Abbie is perfect (and doesn't have much personality). She and Mandy were friends but Abbie was so rich, so pretty and so nice and popular that Mandy got jealous so now the whole school hates Abbie. Why would they even hate her? Because.
Like I said in another video's comment section about MG2, Mandi is a Badly Written Anime Villain
Regina was also kinda nice and charming (in a manipulative manner obv) to people so it makes sense that she is popular
yeah like the OG movie makes a point that in the end, regina was just another girl caught up the high school hierarchy. meanwhile this movie ends with the mean girl literally getting arrested lmao
i think the BIGGEST difference and what pissed me off the MOST about this movie, is that in Mean Girls.... Cady isn't a Pick me // I'm not like other girls. she's an outsider because of her upbringing but everything that's "not like other girls-ish" about her is justifiable, and she also does not use these things to be like "UHUH i'm so cool and different & girls suck". she's genuine and she actually ends up liking a bunch of stuff other girls enjoy. and her being foreign to all of these things is used to deliver and question a lot of things girls go through -- complexes, self esteem issues, pettiness, bullies and frenemies relationships.
In mean girls 2 she's just a pick me. no nuances, no excuses. she's just an infuriating pick me and it completely destroys and undermines the message of the initial movie.
@wanderlust and the mean girls were actually MEAN and realistic. Karen was pushing it but I can totally see someone saying dumb shit like “if you’re from Africa why are you white?”
@wanderlust our usernames are pretty damn close
@@__L__837 fa real tho... When I moved high school (imma military brat) this guy asked me if black people really exist in Oklahoma. After I said I lived there for eleven years 🤦🏿♀️
@@kennedyjojackson1202 🤦🏾♀️
I just realized how Cady's character was used as a literary device. In Harry Potter, Harry is written as a blank slate/ fish out of water character so that the wizarding world can be explained to the audience through him without it being weird. In many ways, Mean Girls is written in the same format, with the use of Cady as a fish out of water. This is interesting, because though this device is popular in fantasy storytelling, it's rarely used in realistic fiction. This is because in realistic fiction, the audience is presumed to already be familiar with "the real world".
Mean Girls, however, does not take this presumption for granted. Patriarchal values are so deeply ingrained in our society that it can be hard to notice how they influence our perception of each other. It's like asking a fish what what water is. Cady's character allows the movie to introduce us to our own society with fresh eyes, challenging us to question our own internalized misogyny.
I think that's what made Mean Girls strike a chord with so many people. Mean Girls 2 doesn't challenge the audience at all. It actually reinforces the audience's internalized misogyny.
Mandi was just rude, the Mean part about Regina was that she seemed so nice and sweet while she really wasn't. The fake complements are way meaner than "don't breathe the same air I breathe" shit.
Regina was so charismatic that I even found myself rooted for at times despite her bitchiness, I completely understand why people are her school would gravitate towards her. Mandi had nothing. No charisma, not intimidating, I can see why people would be around her if she was intimidating, nothing. Irl no one would give her the time of day the writers think were stupid 🙄
@@__L__837 yes, Mandi is just a spoiled brat.
Plus Regina had top tier fashion, Mandi made me wheeze with these stupid outfits
@@spiritualsnail1584 the entire movie was so pleasing to look at
Regina seemed like a real person while this chick seemed like a corny super villain lol
“i don't recall teenagers walking around dressed like Jackie kennedy”
*Gossip girl would like to have a word with you*
Gossip Girl made them look good
Girls wore furs at my high school, some had drug dealer boyfriends.
Claire edwards from degrassi is SHOOK
@@teresareid1770 well that’s just gross. The fur.
I actually did dress like that in high school. I ended up attending FIDM but in Texas I was made fun of for it.
"I'm 26, I'm the perfect age to play a Highschool sophomore" I'm deceased 💀 😭
She is though no cap
I howled omg
I'm almost 24 HOLLYWOOD HERE I AAAM
@@BrytteM 😭😭 You'd be cast as a Freshman
BROODING HOT 25 YEAR OLD TEENAGHURRrrRRRR
Mandy looks like the most popular girl in church, not the most popular girl in highschool. She doesn’t look bad or anything, but who did wardrobe for this??
Omg right? I don’t think the movie knew it’s target audience. It felt like they were trying to dress them to be “modest” enough for a kids show even though this movie had pg-13 themes
SO painfully true
Which is crazy because if you watch any BTS footage of Mean Girls, a significant amount of consideration went in to the wardrobe for the Plastics, Cady and even Janice. The clothes those girls wore directly reflected the personalities of the characters they played on screen the way our fashion choices reflect facets of our personality in real life. Should have just copied the outfits while they were copy and pasting the rest of the original movie too.
You put my thoughts into words lmao
I died everytime I saw that flower bow on her head 😂
*I think it's safe to assume MOST highschoolers are virgins, or are having their VERY FIRST sexual experience. Movies make it seem like if you're a virgin in high-school, you're wayyyy behind, socially... No, dude. You're right where everyone else is.* 😳
If they'd made a statement about her NOT being a virgin that may have been at least a little more realistic. Most teens don't actually care, but if you're going to mock an american girl for her sexuality then it better be slutshaming or it just completely breaks any suspension of disbelief
Hate to tell ya but it’s so many teen moms out here to put a wrench in that statement
@@JillianVSJill there are more virgins than teen moms
Or in that case where they SHOULD be
i was virgin shamed in high school, albiet passively and more behind my back. But i agree sl-tshaming is much more prevelant than virginshaming in an American high school setting.
Also if the bullied outcast girl had money and was so wealthy, why was'nt she put in private school or homeschooled?
That was my FIRST question! She's about to graduate anyway, and although it's maybe too late to enroll at a new school, why not just hire private tutors for that final semester? Her dad apparently can offer college tuition to some random girl on a whim; a tutor's hourly rate is, guaranteed, a cheaper and wiser investment.
My thing is, if she was so much wealthier and “better” than Mandi, why wasn’t SHE the most popular girl in school? Just because she’s not super thin and clumsy? That’s not how actual high school works at all.
Maybe she used too but got bullied there too
@@cheesecake134 I mean, in real life people get bullied for no reason, but bad luck. It does not really matter who you are you can get bullied either way. That is like the one thing I do not agree as a viewer. Children (teenagers) can be bitches no matter what. Being rich and white does not automatically mean that you are immune to bullies.
Because then the plot would make sense!!!!
Ooh let me add to the weird high school sex trope discourse. The Atlantic or Vanity Fair had a good article on this, but basically teens and young adults (s/o to my 20 something year olds) have way less sex than their parents and there parents parents. Which tracks as for why the people making this movie have no clue how much dating culture has shifted. In the 1950s post WWII young people were more concerned about losing potential partners to the draft so they began dating more and investing in relationships which was a departure from the old courting and casual dating sphere. That generation of high schoolers had the most sex and the highest teen pregnancy rate. So years of over correcting perhaps and you get us people who were super busy with extracurricular activities like sports, clubs and the economy shifting pressuring kids to be more dedicated to school. It all has changed our amount of free time which is essential as well as shifted attention away from dating. Studies show everyone over estimates how sexually actively their peers are consistently though most likely due to media like this.
That’s so interesting and honestly explains a lot
Low-key fascinating
~fascinating~
Yep, I remember that back when I was in High School (the 90's) there would be at least one teen pregnancy in half the classes, plus two ones in two classes.
Now I'm a teacher and there is exactly ONE pregnant student out of 70 classes.
How to spot a teen movie in the 2000s?
LAYERS
There must be LAYERS!
Onions have layers.
I had to do that
I'm glad we moved on from thar
In the hair, in the clothes! Everything layered all the time
i think you mean 2010s tbh
like an onion
The main character was such a "I'm not like other girls" trope. At least Cady in the original's reasons for not knowing High School etiquette wasn't because she wasn't "like other girls" it's because she was homeschooled in a foreign continent. And also, why is EVERYONE calling them Plastics now? Plastics was a private nickname/insult that only Janis, Damian and Cady knew about.
I... Thought the whole school called them that, tho?
@@francinesmith7884 they called them that bc they’re fake like plastic
Cady wasn't "not like other girls", Cady was "not like any normally socialized American kids". That's a HUGE difference that clearly flew over the sequel's head.
The only thing I didn't like about mean girls the original was that that made Africa seem like a continent where animals just roam around and where there's no real infrastructure. ALSO where the hell did Cady come from in Africa, Like... We have countries my guy. And not the mom giving African kids(again, which country are you speaking about?) nutrition bars to help them gain weight. Because everyone in Africa is starving apparently...
Side note: sorry in advance for spazzing under your comment
@@theroroberts3949 Totally agree with this!
THANK YOU - the virginity trope NEVER made sense to me. Went to multiple high schools from moving around and had friends at different schools. Never once heard of a school where it was scandalous to be a virgin. So dumb.
Same.
Fundamentalists I’m pretty sure are funding 90% of this rumor because it’s another way to make themselves look good and holy and put down everyone else
I read somewhere that's it's because boomers were much more sexually active than our generation and they probably think that's still how it is.
Exactly because most people in high school are virgins. The kids who are sexually experienced, are the minority - and it’s why they are usually the centre of gossip/ nobody gives a f* about a virgin
This movie is so Disney that it had the “Everything has changed since mom died.” Trope
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I think Disney can make a good teen film this is just hhh
Inside of the school remind me of Disney original movies, like lemonade mouth I think, radio rebel and maybe 16 wishes but a bit dull looking
this made me remember i went over to a friends house for the first time and we watched mean girls 2 because she said it was “better than the original mean girls”. i didn’t realize it at the time but it was such a big red flag 😭😭
How did that friendship turn out
This is hilarious that you said it was a red flag😂
I really want to know more
@@anyone1111 it is tbh
She was never your friend
I was happier when I forgot about this movie's existence.
Same
I think anyone who watched is better of forgetting (that includes me)
I forgot about the movie but I remembered that I hated it
Same. This movie occupies that weird place where I forget it exists until I'm reminded of it, I get angry for a while, and then forget it exists once again. It's not even entertainingly bad in the way some bad movies are, it's just...so lazy and poorly written.
Same
“Cheating on her boyfriend in the locker room.”
Uhm. Excuse me. But Regina is cheating on Aaron with Shane Omen in the projection room above the auditorium.
😂
gretchen possessed me out of nowhere for the entirety of your comment 😭
In the North-shore Lions Costume
@@tabathaarria9558 same 😂
@@autumnrose9655 while they both are in the costume
Except for the days when Coach Carr is up there with Trang Pek. 😬
I don't understand the fact of somebody being a virgin in highschool being scandalous. In my highschool it was the opposite. It's more scandalous to NOT be a virgin because you're in freaking highschool!!
Oh same, those who lost virginity in middle school were the ones gossiped about and ostracised. Kind of shitty too.
Hello Indian
@@Noelciaaa well middle school... Not saying it's right to bully people but it's good that it doesn't get celebrated
@@dreamyclown7185 yeah. The ideal situation would be people just not gossiping, period.
IFKR-
not going to lie, "it was like all my girl hormones had kicked into overdrive and i was out for blood" got a solid laugh out of me. what on earth is this writing.
"On Wednesdays we wear pink" but we'll make an exception since Saturdays are bad movies and a beat 💗💗💗
Ong bruh
Well said
I’m watching this on a Wednesday 👀
What made Regina George work as a character was how realistically intimidating she was. Yes, she did awful things, and said some shitty things as well, but it was never in a straight forward manner. She would compliment someone then gossip about them in the same minute, and it felt so natural. Her on and off switch between bitchness and fakeness made her a force that couldn't be broken. She was always calm, always on point, and always had an attack back, that's what made her so intimidating yet admirable. She was confident, and manipulative, she knew people's weakest points, and used it to her advantage. She was written to be a human that came from a human world where everyone wasn't cartoonishly dumb.
Mandy is so cartoonish, it hurts. The whole world of the sequel doesn't make sense. If your character doesn't intimidate the audience, you know you did a bad job, cause Mandy was more hilarious than scary. It's so funny how the creators of the second movie think that's how teens act, dress, and say.
In conclusion, never touch mean girls again, never.
i could swear that this is the difference between movies written about women by a woman versus by a man. Idk who actually wrote mean girls 2 but im like 90% sure they were some middle aged man. Mandy was wayyyy too direct in her bitchy mentality and lowkey was a joke while Joe was trying WAYYYYY too hard to be "different." In the original mean girls Regina George was a true bully. Was never direct enough to get into trouble or be directly proven to have done something, but was obvious enough so that you would know it was her who did it. I think a major difference between Mandy and Regina is that in real life when there is a bullying situation between girls, the bully a lot of times is like Regina (sneaky, backhanded compliments, talking behind your back but not to your face, turning people against you) however nobody in reality is like Mandy (or at least nobody who would be a bully would be like Mandy).
Regina's mean girl was so real, the way she would twist Cady's head before she became a plastic was so spot on. Being nice to her but indirectly insulting her then talking behind her back, getting her in a phone fight (or at least misunderstanding) with Gretchen, kissing the guy she liked just to get under her skin and keeping him around for Cady to see, all while pretending to be her friend. That's what most shows and movies don't get right about the mean girl trope because she's not actively out to get you, she brings herself up to be superior even if it means making you else feel inferior.
current high school senior here! nobody cares if you’re a virgin!! people only gossip if you sleep around, even then nobody really cares for the most part
Yeah, I was abstinent in high-school (not that long ago) and no one gave a crap. I just didn't get approached by creeps as much since they knew I wouldn't put out, so winwin.
Yeah for the most part nobody cares whether you sleep around or are a virgin in high school. It's really nobodies business and not that interesting.
Omg callmekevin I'm a huge fan
Makes sense. Like 80% of the students at school are virgins too. I don’t see why people would care. Especially when everyone is basically on the same boat as well. 🤷🏻♀️
I was in high school when Mean Girls came out and no one cared then either. It’s such a stupid trope, and it’s persistent portrayal in media is causing young people to feel like there is something wrong with being a virgin more than their peers are!
On top of *everything* I hate, there's the ending. It's just SO. BAD. In the actual Mean Girls, there's rehabilitation and humanity. It shows development and capacity to change, rather than "ahhh queen villain person got a bad ending yay." There's genuinely more character depth in the ending of Mean Girls than there is in the entirety of this knockoff.
The “fashion” in this is *off* . Like in the original everyone was actually dressed well for their characters and it looked good.
This looks like someone raided the set of a Disney tween comedy and then tried to force a bunch of 20 something actors into the clothing from Claire’s that are supposed to be for 13 years olds.
And most of the hair stiles they decided to give them emphasize the actors faces in a way that makes them look like they are in their 40’s 😖
Nothing looks right in this 🙃
You’re right but you’re wrong for that 💀 you didn’t have to drag them like that
@@__L__837 they absolutely needed to drag them like that
That was a sophisticated read 📚lol
Wait does Claire’s actually sell clothes🤣 ? Cause I def missed that
@@chanela.7786 yes, and they're ugly
If they had to make a sequel they should have had some of the original characters come back as teachers and helplessly have to deal with mean girls way more out of control than they were.
That would've been really interesting.
Right!! Or could have extended the story to Reginas little sister. It could been like a “pass the crown” sequel.
Yeah, Like Sister Act 2 style!
Or maybe about their college life
Istg fanfic authors did better job creating sequels than them💀
I HAAAATE the trope where a financially disadvantaged character does something marginally morally questionable that has some negative impact on a wealthy character who then goes “whyyyyyyyy.” Bitch I’m broke, hell
🤣🤣🤣
Right. I would’ve told the girl her daddy paid me just to keep it a buck, but yessir I would’ve taken that money the fuck
@@ayannabranchcomb7535 right. Like “girl I woulda been friends with you regardless but your daddy is bout to pay for my college. *cues Twerkulator*”
@@alexandragreen7990 LMAOO just like that. Matter of fact sis lets work together so we both get what we want
Just dance and say "this is America", rich take advantage of the poor all of the time.
I have also always hated the 'virginity is shameful' thing too. in middle school it gave me such anxiety watching movies like that and then I got to high school and yeah no one cared. I think statistically most teenagers are virgins all through high school anyways. and looking at is now as an adult I find it highly irresponsible that adults were in some way influencing teens to think they had to have sex to fit in.
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I feel you.
I think Virginity in adulthood too is nothing to look down upon. It’s a person’s own choice whether they want to have sex, and as vulnerable of a position that puts people in, I’m surprised by the number of people that don’t understand not wanting to jump into sex just for the sake of the experience.
@@broomhilder couldn't agree more!
YES
@@broomhilder Seriously, thank you!
The outfits in this movie made me so angry. The fashion in the OG Mean Girls was so iconic but here it just reminds me of Radio Rebel or 16 Wishes but at least the outfits in those movies were iconic in their own way
The mean girls in both Radio Rebel and this movie dress the same. If they had the same stylist I wouldn’t be surprised.
"I'm 26, I'm the perfect age to play a high school sophomore"
"I will fart in your salad"
PLEASE SIS IM DYING
The wardrobe is so bad in this movie. The Mean Girls outfits were trendy for the time and encapsulated the character’s personalities well. Meanwhile in this movie, the outfits don’t show the growth of characters, they’re not trendy for the time period, there’s no thought to their individual color palettes, and they’re just plain ugly.
@@not_acidicAlchemist the clearance rack at that!
@@not_acidicAlchemist omg julia cudney
I died when she said "Who is this girl? A bad ass biker chick?"
Me:"She's driving a scooter. Not a Harley. It's not that deep...🤣"
😂😂😂😂😂
I wish she was a bad ass biker chick, because that would imply she's actually like 22 and just got held back a whoooooole lot somehow and would give her character some kind of actual individuality. Like Never Been Kissed but the adult woman is actually there legitimately and has to deal with highschool with at least a few people knowing she's not a teenager
It's a good movie
The only reading I get out of that line is that she has a crush. Otherwise like??? What's the insult? Where's the bite?
I think it’s important to know that the original mean girls is based on a book based on female friendships & the psychological warfare within those friendships. like each character is an archetype within the structures of those friendships. that’s why it feels nuanced and is grounded despite how campy/dramatic it can feel, and that’s why also a sequel doesn’t work if it doesn’t understand the material in the first place LOL
Whoever wrote the sequel did not understand the assignment!!!!!
exactly. the reason why the original is so good, is because all the mean girls act like real people, they act nice and then talk shit behind your back. meanwhile maddy (or however you spell her name) is so comical. you can't try to make a mean girl, and then just make her a comical supervillain. what the sequel didn't understand is that the original movie isn't about making fun of girly-girls, it's about how young women treat themselves and each other, it's about misogyny, what kids go through in that age etc. and then the sequel is just about this quirky girl making fun of other girls- which isn't the point. in the original, when she came to the new school, she didn't have an opinion on girls or femininity, but in the sequel she does, she already has found her style and what she likes, she isn't like a blank canvas with no real opinions like in the original
i'm sorry i ranted, but this sequel really annoys me, there could have been some kind of potential with this, but they instead made it a cheap knock-off
@@anyrija. no you hit it right on the nose!! especially about how the main character in the sequel having established opinions & thoughts on femininity!! and that could've been SO GOOD to have an introspective take of her liking typically masculine things bc they're simply her taste, and a nuanced depiction of how easy it is to hate femininity, when the reality is that what a lot of us find distasteful isn't actually the color pink; its the reaction to pink and its softness being labeled as something awful when its just a normal color. nonetheless, the mean girl wasn't even "mean" like the way regina george was (aka having privileges that come from high-performing femininity, using that to tear down other women, but also being a victim of the system bc as much as she was terrible, it was easy for her to lose her title bc appearance is so fickle yet treated so valuably). sequel girl was like a disney villain in a poorly-shot coming-of-age film LOL. nonetheless, the idea that the opinion of the love interest in the sequel even matters... i hate it, but even that could've been great on seeing a very nuanced take on how performative the "not like other girls" can be if you don't deconstruct it for yourself.
"You ate two funnel cakes, a hot dog, and a bag of kettle corn on our first date...what happened to that girl I met in shop class?"
So she's changed in a bad way because she's worried about her health now? XD
Because she’s THIN so she’s already “healthy”. A fat girl would never be praised for eating that way. And she also dressed in more feminine Alt fashion
I know!!I can only imagine all the sugar affecting her teeth and depending on the persons skin, sugar can cause acne too. So like...? Be healthy if you want. Recognise your sugar intake if you want. Nothing wrong with that lol.
@@ReplyGuy22345 as a thin girl myself I have to agree
Dude just thinking about eating all that makes my stomach hurt. One time I got sick just eating one funnel cake by myself
I mean he’s talking about what happened to the girl he met don’t get me wrong I hate the entire movie but that’s what they meant
so we not gonna talk about how literally half this cast has been on disney channel? johanna was on camp rock (as the mean girl ironically), mandi was on cory in the house, abby of course was on wizards of waverly place, & hope was on the show ‘jonas’ I-- like why all of them😂
And Chastity was on H20 (not a Disney show but still a kids show)
currently in high school: nobody cares if you have sex, drink, or smoke it’s really not that big a deal it’s a personal choice some of my friends are stoners and some of my friend are and plan to be sober for the rest of their lives
it makes me so angry that high school movies and tv shows continue to make virginity and sex the main plot point when there are SO MANY other things to talk about in relation to high school
Stoners 😭
I wish my school were like that.
I wish I could relate. The people at my school were overly judgmental but then again it was a small school.
Is your school like an average high school? I'm not an american so I don't really know what affects a school's culture other than the public/private stereotypes
She's not like other girls she doesn't let men assault her
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Pretty sure she invented feminism
yup and other girls just let it happen :|
lol but she dated a dude who was super sexist towards her
@@haleyh.8278 in the words of Mama Ken "can't be woke all the time, there are hours in which we sleep"
But I'll be damned if I don't keep one eye open
Kennie: Oh I am 26 I am the perfect age to play the sophomore.
Me: a B r O o D i N g H o T 25 y E a R o L d 𝓉ℯℯ𝓃𝒶ℊℯ𝓇ℛℛ𝓇ℛ𝓇ℛ𝓇.
(TeenagerRrRrRrRrRrRr)
Lmao
Favorite song❤️
I snorted when she said that, along with the hair flip
Best believe I sung this
Same😂
Oh god, I have to watch this video in chunks. Even a description of the plot of this movie makes me too angry to sit still.
It's Mean Girls for elementary schoolers with particularly low standards
I watched the movie and skipped majority of it cause it was so boring
Can we talk about how Mandi dresses like a sweet, 40 year old mom who got her fashion inspiration from a cute cupcake bakery?
Remember how in the first Mean Girls the costume designer expressed how clothes automatically describes a person?
These, these clothes did not describe the person
As someone who was 17 in 2011, I can confirm that no one dressed like that.
As someone who was 5 in 2011, even we didn't dress like that.
God, even the fashion is off. I remember Mean Girls having such a distinct and thought out wardrobe for all the girls, especially the plastics. Mandi just looks like a prep. I put up my middle finger at her
HA! Love the My Immortal reference :D
Mandi doesn’t even look like a prep, she looks like a twelve year old going to church most of the time.
Mandi Dresses Like A Disney Channel Extra
Mandi is how I dressed in middle school. And I sure as hell wasn’t a popular kid
mandi dresses like the schools mormon girl that isn’t allowed to pick her own clothes
"I dont want you to breathe the same air"
Regina George was never so direct and that's why she worked
Eta: the school allowed them to publish a story like that in their paper?
I still don’t understand why the producers of this movie thought that making a sequel to the cultural reset that is Mean Girls without having any of the main/iconic characters and themes would be a good idea.
There was absolutely no need for this. The chemistry of the cast is what made the movie iconic.
Just straight up greed is what it is. So many great franchises are ruined in this fashion 😢
...money
Truth be told they would never be able to afford some of the original cast members , and I highly doubt they would agree to appear in it lol
I wanna ask, did Tina wrote it? 😅 Was this movie part of the book
Tim Meadows used to be an SNL cast member! Probably explains his great comedic timing 😄
you should do legally blondes!! if I'm remembering right it basically copies the script of legally blonde but it's in high school about elle woods' cousins it's terrible
I literally forgot that movie existed but now I can hear the girl saying "A scuff mark?"
My cousin loves that film. I watched about 5 mins of it before being bored outta my mind
@@Firegirl483 oh gods I remember that movie- it was made by Disney right?
I distinctly remember watching this movie a few years back and having an out of body experience, at three quarters into the movie I stopped and said “wtf am I doing” then walked away... that’s what I call ✨self care✨
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I hate the “not like the other girls” trope, because I was raised by this movies and for a pretty long time I antagonized others girls and tried to be different and doing not feminine stuff so I could be respected by mans, so I have forced myself to like “manly” stuff and dislike “girly” stuff. Conclusion is that I learned more from Barbie than from teen movies that try to pass a feminist vibe with this trope.
Lemme guess you wore converse to the dance
RIGHT!!! I used to "hate" pink because I felt like I could never be successfully feminine (body issues) so decided to be the "cool girl" since I was already better friends with more boys when I was younger, despite wanting more girlfriends and wishing I could be the girly girl. I largely blame the fact that the girly girl was always the bully in films/showsv when I was young
@A D Yeah, it is really sad that we still cannot just be ourselves, whether it be rather "traditionally feminine" or more alternative, or most likely, a mixture of both.
Barbie Princess and the Pauper is what we actually need in life
Barbie movies have a better feminist message in them and it still doesn't feel as forced like in these type of movies. I believe it has to do with Barbie being a respectful protagonist to other girls if that makes sense idk
They act like most teenagers aren’t virgins, and it’s weird.
“I am 26, the perfect age to play a sophomore highschooler” idk why that cracked me up 😭😭 it’s so trueeeee tho
The movie reminds me of how I wrote essays in high school: get "inspiration" from some other work, start writing ideas, procrastinate, run out of time and shove all the ideas together.
“Hey did you know your dad offered to pay my tuition because we’re friends? Thats so friggen cool of him, me and my dad were having a pretty hard time.”
“Hello, police? I think a girl from my school put sugar and coffee into my dads gas tank. Yeah she kinda has it out for me.”
“Did you tell everyone I was a virgin?”
The worst part about bad movies is how their conflicts are so easily diverted by common sense and conversation.
Yes omg 😭
I remember watching this when I was younger, my main takeaway was that Regina George felt like a real mean girl. Not just in the things she said, but her tone, the subtle comments, the body language. The mean girls in this movie feel like Disney channel caricatures of the high school bully
100% accurate description right here!
Rachel McAdams BODIED that role. She was the perfect mean girl, no other “mean” girl will ever compare to that. Cheryl blossom tried but failed. Id bring up the girl in this movie but who is this bitch? I don’t know.
I remember watching a movie where a dad paid a girl to be his daughter's friend. I never knew I'd actually watched mean girls 2 lmao never would i have thought it was the sequel to mean girls
@@__L__837 Don’t forget Heather Chandler, the mythic bitch. Heathers was a huge inspiration for Mean Girls. But even then, Regina was so realistic
"I feel like violence is occasionally the answer," Truly a wonderful piece of advice.
"My girl hormones went into overdrive" is the same vibe as "Are you on your period?".
And the movie keeps trying to claim it's feminist! That's the part that really gets me--"we hate & degrade women but like, GRRL PWR!!!"
A majority of the cast are Disney Channel actors which makes so much sense as to why this is so watered down and cliche... Disney definitely had a hand in this.
Also fun fact: the actor that played Jo actually played Tess (the mean girl) in Camp Rock, and she did pretty well, while the actor who played mandi played a super nice character in Cory In the House!
It was made by paramount not Disney. Also I partially think it's because they are used to acting a certain way for Disney and they felt like they had to be "edgy" for this except for Jennifer stone who is actually a good actress and has good delivery
Seeing all these Disney secondary actors reminded me that Legally Blondes exists with those twin girls from Suite Life.
Now that is a bad movie
Horrible movie one funny transition scene
At both of the high schools that I went to no one cared if someone had sex. It was more of the relationship drama that was gossiped about, and that only happened in certain circles.
Right? Unless there was some scandal with one of the faculty, I can't think of any "one thing" that a high school would collectively give a shit about.
When I found out the Rachel McAdams was wearing a lace wig for her role of Regina George!!!!!!
Now THAT’S how wearing a wig!!! Twilight had no excuse! 😭
What?? I loved her hair all the time. It was beautiful.
@@Im_thatsmartcat Her hair color at the time was close to Lindsay's. I'm glad they gave her a good quality wig and not one from party city 😨
THAT WAS A WIG??
They really did Taylor Lautner dirty with that monstrosity🤣
Lmfao is Abby played by the same girl who’s Selena’s best friend in Wizards of Waverly Place??
Yes
please put some respect on harper’s name
“She don’t even go here” is the one line I will always love and laugh about
I am so happy someone is confirming that mean girls 2 wasn't just an ABC family fever dream I had
SAME I THOUGHT I IMAGINED IT
While she was describing the movie, I realized I had seen it.. I completely forgot
@@kraziirenaii I saw it once and I actually remember being excited to see it
I never saw it fully but it gives me Disney Channel Original Movie vibes lol
it’s so weird bc in the original mean girls, the driving force was that they want to take down regina but cady also wants to fit in. suddenly in this new movie the mc doesn’t want to fit in and doesn’t care about taking down mandi and magically it’s supposed to be a sequel?
Even in my southern ass high school where everybody hooks up together, NOBODY CARES if you’re a virgin.
Like I remember one time a few of my classmates were going around being like “have you had sex?” And a lot of people were like “nope”. AND
NOBODY CARED
fun fact, this movie was filmed over the course of 22 days, which for those who don't know is a SHOCKINGLY short amount of time to film a movie
Yoooo. As someone who was “the girl with the dead dad” growing up, I always wondered why it was always only the mums that die in movies.
In my fantasy, I'm Regina but in reality I'm that 'Danny Devito girl' 🖐️😂
Danny Devito, I love your work!
@@sadsadtearsofaclown859 😂😂
As a recent high school graduate, I can tell you that teens still don't gaf whether or not somebody is a virgin.
Totally. I’m a sophomore and literally all my friends guys and girls are virgins. Nobody even talks about sex honestly
@@triana_7 same and i'm a senior now lol
Same it’s nobody’s business but yourself. No one in my school cares what you do
Mean girls 2 looks like an iMovie film I would’ve made in 6th grade and would’ve thought would be my big break in the film industry.
Lol. True. Nice toe nails 😂
Looks like the iMovie film I’m making in the 11th grade
It's more like Disney challenge movie, than anything.
"Asexual people exist." Me, an asexual, screaming because someone actually acknowledged my existence without mocking it.
Same!! It made me so happy
Nah you just can’t pull
@@ToxicPota projection
Same! This is the third time it’s happened! Cinema Therapy, Jessie Paige, and now Kenny!!
At both high schools I went to, the students saw being a virgin as a negative and if they found out you were a virgin they would just assume you're gay. It was stupid.
I will never forget. The first time I saw this movie it was on DVD. I used to walk to the library and rent movies from them. I took this movie, walked home, and popped into the DVD player. I got 50 minutes into the movie, turned it off, and walked right back to the library to return it. The librarian thought it was hilarious.
Rachel McAdams was 26 when she played Regina George, so you're perfect to play a mean girl Kennie!!! 😂😂😂
26!?!?!? She was 26!?!? I thought she was way younger then that,damn
Kennie girl you already got the eye roll down to play a mean girl in a high school movie you would steal the show
@@taylermiller5736 Lindsay Lohan and Amanda Seyfried were the only teenagers in the film, 17 and 18 respectively. Every other main cast high schooler was mid twenties. Shows how talented Amanda and Lindsay were
The 'teenage virgin scandal' trope is ancient. Shows like this make me think the script writer or producer was a teen during the time Little Darlings or Foxes came out and thinks that high school still looks like something out of the late 70s or early 80s. Back when they exploited actual teenage actresses in Hollywood.
Honestly this feels like a movie made by someone who never actually watched mean girls. But instead was told the general idea of what mean girls was about, but without any specific details. And they just so happen to have a script laying around and they just added a few scenes from what they heard to make it seem like it was a sequel to mean girls.
Can we also talk about the trope in these types of movies, that sends the message that it's important and good to be thin and pretty.... But also you're vain and bitchy if you watch what you eat, and pay attention to your diet?
Like women just can't win can they
(I also just personally hate this trope as somebody who finds having a healthy lifestyle important.. I hate how the trope demonizes paying attention to what you put in your body, and women who make a conscious effort to eat healthier... that's just ultimately such a dirty and gross message)
That’s so true tbh, it’s also apparent in how society will write off women who dress very feminine and wear and like colors like pink as ditzy or dumb or just plain bad, but also paints women who dress more masculine as doing it for the attention of men to be different than “the others.” And of course not even including the internalized misogyny many girls have as a result of these stereotypes, it leads to people like Janis in the first movie. People who have come to hate femininity because they believe that it is the problem and so they strip any of it from their personality or style, etc. I don’t know, it’s just. No matter what a woman does there will be large numbers of critics.
Isn’t the ‘girl wants to go to dead mom’s college but dad can’t afford it’ part of the original Kissing Booth plot?
Yes
Weren't her parents rich? And the mom alive tho?
@@KamillsWorld In The Kissing Booth? Nah her mom died in the quick backstory summary at the beginning of the first movie
@@MysticRumors at some point all these movies blur together in my brain
It's kinda the plot of many teen movies.
"Asexual people exist" "they should have made it a lesbian love triangle" I like what I'm hearing XD
Fr,when she said the ace part I got so happy,people tend to forget about us a lot
@@DC_let_the_Waynes_be_happy as an ace, yup
Yay, ace representation!!
Hello? Ace? Mentioned? Ace? Mentioned! Ace!
That’s literally all of these comments. (Including this one. (Asexuals together(yay!)))
Ace ace ace
"I'm 26, I'm the perfect age to play a high school sophomore" I chuckled
"Asexual people exist."
Say it louder for the people in the back!
Nah you just can’t pull
Thank you for speaking about that annoying "youre a virgin so youre an outcast" trope Kennie!! I always found it really disgusting and problematic that grown adults are always writing that trope about teenagers. Like if you think about it, and ADULT wrote a story where TEENAGERS having SEX makes them look GLORIFIED. An Adult wrote a story where a plotline is "this teenager - this KID, didnt have sex and thats seen as bad." Even if the ending message ends up being some weird 180 of that, its still really awkward and gross to me. I'm not even a prude but some of these movies are super shady with it. Absolutely bonkers that this still allowed to happen. The first movie handled it better as it was so over the top it really made you realize how dumb and gross the trope is.
girl they made the principal so creepy, he was so great in the first one and they really tried to creep him up here
Why did the costume designer dress the “Plastics” like they came out of a Limited Too ad? It looks so bad lol 😂
They were dressed for Disney channel
They just look like Justice threw up on them
Lmao I don’t remember anyone ever dressing like that. Especially not in 2011.
@@KC-ir9fn right? I graduated and turned 18 in 2011 (#TeamVirgo BTW), and I can NOT recall this junior miss Easter parade fuckery being worn by ANY girl I knew.
they look like girl defined fr
" what is she some kind of badass biker chic? "
* is on a moped *
Me: ??????????
My school also didn't give a damn about someones sexual activity
It was so confusing lol
Poor Tim Meadows. He must have had a surprise bill, or maybe he needed a new car.
as someone who has attended and currently attends public school, i can confirm, indeed, mandy would not survive a day. everyone would have made her cry and wanna transfer by the end of day 1
I honestly pretend this movie doesn't exist, only the og mean girls exists in my universe
High school teacher here - the way high school is portrayed in movies is so weird! More often than not, the popular kids are popular because (here's a shocker) they are generally nice to others! Also, I'm fairly confident teenagers don't care about being virgins half as much as movies say they do. Seriously, what is Hollywood's obsession with the sexual activity of teenagers? I've also found that kids usually don't get bullied because of the subjects they like or for being smart, they are bullied for how they act (socially awkward or neurodivergent kids more often than not).
This is just my experience, of course, but seriously, American movie school is super wild!
sequels are always kinda like an unplanned pregnancy except on purpose
I find it unsettling that movies like this would imply that being a virgin in high school means that you're behind. The underlying truth in these movie universes would then be the majority of characters already had sexual experiences in middle school. Yikes.
Dunno just also seems a toxic thing to suggest to actual teenagers, hey all the characters are having sex, you better get on that too. Which could pressure young adults into situations they may not want or arent even ready for.
can we talk about every character in this movie being played by disney channel actors that never get a lead role in the good movies?
Omg you’re so right! Wizards of waverly place, camp rock, Jonas, Cory in the house!
Kennie be paraphrasing and half-acting better than the actual movie
This makes me feel so seen I genuinely thought I was the only one who remembered this movie 😩✋🏾
I watched this movie last month because of curiosity, and now I regret it.
It's probably because anyone who knows this film existent tries desperately to forget it.
Can we talk about how mean girls 2 took 22 days to film 😃 22?! Twenty tw- ahem.. TWENTY TWO 🔊🔊🔊
No wonder it's so bad
Spat out my FOOD😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂
High School Musical was filmed in 24 days so they had no excuse being this bad.
A Fall From Grace beats that by being filmed in 5 days
@@devonmunn5728 we don't talk about that movie
I actually didn’t mind Mean Girls 2. When something is released straight to ABC Family or Lifetime, I naturally expect nothing from the movie.
“Straight to abc family” really tells you all you need to know
ironically enough, the actress who played jo did a better job as a mean girl in camp rock, the actress who played mandi did a better job as a regular girl in cory in the house and the actress who played abby did a better job as an energetic and eccentric girl in wizards of waverely place so this whole rotation has been miscast
Couldn't agree more lol
Yeah. That totally makes sense
"Raise your hand if you ever been victimized by Mean Girls 2"
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I think a more interesting story could have been if the new girl is the mean girl and when she arrives in the new school she starts stirring things up and the rest of the school is like "not this again, no way is this happening!"
I like that idea
That would actually be funny as fuck too lmaooooo she just starts drama just to entertain herself and sees her classmates as simple chess pieces
Oohhh so like reversed... i like this!!! Add on pls
Camp Rock is just the Disney Channel musical version of Mean Girls, so the fact that the main character in this was also in camp rock makes me laugh