9/11 Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro Comparison | PlayStation (PSX) September 11, 2001

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    The original version of Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro was censored after the events of September 11, 2001 in New York. This video is a combination of both original and edited content presented in higher quality than our original video of it from 10 years ago.
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  • @Taylasto
    @Taylasto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    GIVE ME THE JUUL SPIDER-MAN
    GIVE ME THE JUUL!

    • @yavuzsahin3003
      @yavuzsahin3003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Or this one dooouuiiieesss!!!!

    • @camilajennifer4818
      @camilajennifer4818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@yavuzsahin3003 TONIGHT, ELECTRO DANCE WITH THE GODS! HAHAHAH AHAH HAH AHAHAHHAHA!

    • @musicobsessedasian9594
      @musicobsessedasian9594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@yavuzsahin3003 ok how about trade

    • @greenweeaboo8924
      @greenweeaboo8924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      did max ever go to an english class back in school?

  • @sonic-oe3yi
    @sonic-oe3yi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +349

    In the post 9/11 version the fight should have been in the Empire State building so they could keep the "Top of the world" thing.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      That actually could have been a good alternative, but it might have required more programming work. This fix was simply a re-skin and an added bridge.

    • @sonic-oe3yi
      @sonic-oe3yi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@GameRaveTV Yes, making a whole 3d model totally different from the past one can be a headache, and it would require to change the dynamic of the battle a bit, but anyway it would have been cool to see

    • @xenonmaster6668
      @xenonmaster6668 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      GameRaveTV they wouldn’t have to fit the “top of the world” line and wouldn’t have to change of textures if they just added the Empire State Building.

    • @chiconube1693
      @chiconube1693 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      The top of the world thing only makes sense with the World Trade Center because when you’d visit the observation deck they’d call it “being on top of the WORLD” because you’re on top of the World Trade Center and you’re at the highest spot of the city.

    • @themolecularman00
      @themolecularman00 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      There was a fight with Hammerhead

  • @coasterboy234
    @coasterboy234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    Thats actually very funny that spider man fights electro on the world trade center because
    When James Cameron was trying to make his spiderman movie it was going to have electro , and they would fight on top of the world trade center

    • @ComicWriter-ml3qt
      @ComicWriter-ml3qt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Coaster Boy thank god that didn’t happen given how obviously bad the movie would’ve been with a director who didn’t understand the character.
      James Cameron is a good director, but a good director doesn’t automatically mean the movie is gonna be good. Otherwise, the Star Wars prequels would’ve been good, and Stephen Spielberg wouldn’t have fucked up the 4th Indiana Jones movie.

    • @coasterboy234
      @coasterboy234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea thats true

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      James Cameron didn't write that draft, someone else did and he attached his name while making a new one.

    • @ezrabridger252
      @ezrabridger252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ComicWriter 2020 I think the prequels have a found a lot of appreciation as of recently. Especially from the kids now young adults who grew up with them.

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ezrabridger252 Cause they were kids and had terrible choices in media not understanding how a movie is supposed to work.

  • @hmwpyro18
    @hmwpyro18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    What sucks was I had the 9/11 version when I was a kid. One Christmas, my brothers and I got a shoe box filled with bootleg versions of PS1 games from Indonesia, and that version was one of them. Parents ended up getting rid of those games when I turned 13

    • @gedeonnunes5626
      @gedeonnunes5626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I got to play the pre-9/11 one, too! And in my memory, the buildings were much further appart. Here in Brazil, the PS1 and PS2 were only the most popular consoles of their respective eras due to how easy it was to pirate their games. In fact, Playstation's capilarity as a brand here to this day is mostly due to it, to piracy XD
      Btw, I'm sorry to hear about your story :/
      my parents separated when I was 12 and I only got past it in my early 20's. Other than that, I really miss the games I played in my old PS1. Some of them were lost, some of them were rendered useless due to how much I played them, 5 of them were stolen and resold by a then classmate of mine (and to this day I regret borrowing them to him, but was never brave enough to bring it up as this guy was taller than me and I was a very insecure child). Hope you're fine, Pyro18

    • @yankees2319
      @yankees2319 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @World Gta San Andreas sthu

    • @homeoftek5844
      @homeoftek5844 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We must be the same age, then. I was 13 yrs old in 8th grade when the towers were knocked down. Me and the other students saw the attack on TV that morning and got out early. Scary times

    • @johnnyboy-ws3we
      @johnnyboy-ws3we ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gedeonnunes5626 was you'r birth year 1989 just like me cause i myself played that game butt it was not mine it was at neighbor's house

  • @artemis1993
    @artemis1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Wow, i suddenly realized i had the original pre 9/11 version as a kid. Never knew how lucky i was.

  • @bugledayliarch9553
    @bugledayliarch9553 6 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    you forgot the cutscene
    after beating shocker spidey saved shocker then he swing to the building where you can see twin towers they cut it
    and the cut scene where spidey sneaking henchman when plane goes blow up and henchman said "everybody get down" was removed
    also different when you play save the plane in pre 9/11 they teach you how to stop the plane but in post 9/11 they didn't tell you what to do
    to much bug in post 9/11 even you in building you suddenly felt down

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Interesting, I'll have to check it out and add another video if it pans out.

    • @bugledayliarch9553
      @bugledayliarch9553 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      GameRaveTV
      also when you play "hanger 18" level
      behind spiderman background was plane after blown up but changed to vence
      like first level or third level you can see twin towers background

    • @Di3mondDud3
      @Di3mondDud3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bugledayliarch9553 im assuming the pre 9/11 version is the one to play? I loved spiderman 2000 as a kid and ive always wanted to play the sequel

    • @ezlu77
      @ezlu77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was never able to stop that damned plane hahahahah I was 6 at the time

    • @joeypeawood4656
      @joeypeawood4656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah that plane pissed me off as a kid, I guess now I know why I had no idea what to do. Thanks for the info

  • @acesartgallery9117
    @acesartgallery9117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Thank you so so much for making this video! I think it's so important to keep something like this alive, especially because we no longer have the twin towers with us. I understand it was censored at the time out of respect for the victims, but if you ask me, I think it's more disrespectful now-a-days to pretend that it never happened to begin with. History is always best remembered, not forgotten. I think it would be cool if they could somehow find a way to re-release the original version.

  • @theguardian3920
    @theguardian3920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Man I always thought the final duel taking place on top of the twin towers made it so much more epic.
    I was just taking a trip down memory lane watching the game cutscenes and man, such a simple yet great story. By the time I got the the scene of “Top of the World” and I noticed the screen goes black, and I was like “WAIT, I clearly remember that the scene played a clip where you can see Electro on top of the towers” and I started watching different videos and all the ones I could find on youtube are the same. Yet, I knew I was right! So I finally found this video. So glad to know I was right haha and yeah, it’s kinda sad. But I did honestly prefereed the original version

  • @busterthejedi8446
    @busterthejedi8446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    You forgot the scene where Spider-Man encountered Thor after fighting Electro.
    Speaking of which, wouldn't it be cool to see Thor help in the fight against Electro?

    • @JahinAlam
      @JahinAlam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's why the Daily Bugle says Thor saves from Electro's menace

    • @Yonatan_Max
      @Yonatan_Max ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The cutscene was lost on the cutting room floor, but recently someone found a picture of the cutscene with the waybackmachine on the activision website

  • @Indead
    @Indead 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Crazy to see man, thanks for the schooling as always Jason.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      At your service! Next episode of GRTV will hopefully provide more insight to the actual game, but I'm sort of struggling through it.

  • @Hercowisky
    @Hercowisky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Hey guys. There IS a scene with Spiderman & Thor talking right after beating Hyper Electro. It does exists. It never made it into any version, but I saw it once on Activision's webpage back in the day. I'm trying to find it. Any help is appreciated so we can all enjoy this missing gem!

    • @AlexYBITW
      @AlexYBITW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Always heard about it but never saw it !

    • @UncreativeaDude
      @UncreativeaDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      how can I confirm this?

    • @Machado-hh1fj
      @Machado-hh1fj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yes I saw it in the game into my copy11

    • @Hercowisky
      @Hercowisky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Machado-hh1fj can you record it? Do you still have it?

    • @hu45stuff24
      @hu45stuff24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Machado-hh1fj do you still have it?

  • @서경현-l2b
    @서경현-l2b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro now affected with the 9/11 Terror, where the final battle was originally take place in the World Trade Center, but later changed into generic building in the final build of the game. A similar method also occurred to Disney and Pixar film Monsters, Inc., where the CDA (Child Detection Agency) blew up Harryhausen's in the storyboard and comic book. However, it was later changed into the CDA placing a force field against the restaurant in the finalized version of the film due to the aforementioned 9/11 Terror.

    • @ChristianFrates1997
      @ChristianFrates1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Don’t forget Lilo & Stitch and Men in Black 2.

    • @서경현-l2b
      @서경현-l2b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ChristianFrates1997 I didn't see these films were affected within the 9/11 Terror, unless I could see Wikipedia to find out.

    • @CreatEr1n
      @CreatEr1n ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@서경현-l2b The scene spaceship chase scene in Lilo and Stich originally featured an airplane and took place in a busy city. It starts with the main characters hijacking a 747. Jumba flies the plane recklessly. It's a turbulent ride in which you see everyone aboard the plane frantically bracing themselves for impact as they whiz through skyscrapers. The plane hits a building at one point. The animators transformed the plane into a spaceship and had it fly over trees in a tropical area. The imagery is eerily similar.

    • @서경현-l2b
      @서경현-l2b ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Erin Stevens now what I'm get it. Men in Black 2 was effected within the 9/11 Terror, and what changed?

    • @CreatEr1n
      @CreatEr1n ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@서경현-l2b I have no idea. Lilo and Stitch is the only one I know about. The original Lilo and Stitch scene is on youtube if you're curious about it

  • @RockyMSK
    @RockyMSK 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Haha! Looks like I played original version long time ago. In Russia, we didn't have fixed one:)

    • @xenonmaster6668
      @xenonmaster6668 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      RockyMSK probably because your not in the US where the tragedy happened.

    • @xenonmaster6668
      @xenonmaster6668 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Big Ounce interesting.

    • @AlexYBITW
      @AlexYBITW 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xenonmaster6668 I've only played the fixed version, and I'm in France. Now I was 7 in 2001, but I remember my parents buying me the game when it came out
      They fixed it for every country I think

    • @kirillassasin
      @kirillassasin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep, I have original version as well. In Russia we didn’t censored it.

    • @VortexYoutube
      @VortexYoutube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      в данной ситуации хорошо, что пираты переводили игры как можно быстрее :D

  • @almostshawn3230
    @almostshawn3230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Final Version: Why am I running so much? I should be swinging around.
    OG Version: Ohhhhhhh

  • @awesomeblasto63
    @awesomeblasto63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Plots twist electro start 9/11

  • @edu_moonwalker
    @edu_moonwalker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This reminds me of that controversial teaser for the first Spiderman movie at the time, that chopper glued by the webs between the twin towers.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That trailer has now gone viral here on TH-cam.

  • @GigaBoots
    @GigaBoots 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cool video. Thanks for doing this, I never knew.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're welcome! Stick around for more fun. I'll actually be doing a review on the game for the next episode. :)

  • @mart5610
    @mart5610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn those buildings are close to each other

  • @9ALiTY
    @9ALiTY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I hear that Pickle Guy's Voice on Spongebob

  • @LITTLE1994
    @LITTLE1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Wow, the original version had them ACTUALLY fighting on the Twin Towers! But I still wonder how I can find that copy...

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They are out there, but usually in collector's hands.

    • @Wolfie_-xz7hs
      @Wolfie_-xz7hs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You can download the August 2001 Proto from Hidden Palace or you can just find it online and you could probabaly burn the .iso file

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GameRaveTVso there’s no way to easily ID them?

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@darthkurland Outside of the hole punched copy, checking the files on a PC, or doing the AUNTMAY code and checking level names, no.

  • @MrStrangermoon
    @MrStrangermoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this legendary nocturne game music

  • @brikbardo4825
    @brikbardo4825 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Does Anybody know how much these are going for nowadays?
    Tried looking on Ebay and all they have are the "fixed" Versions.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Hey Brik - not much. I know of at least 3 people, myself included, who paid $100 or less for theirs. Considering how minimal the changes are and the rom being available if you look, there really wasn't any ludicrous value associated with it.

    • @luizeduardo._.
      @luizeduardo._. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      lostmediaarchive.wikia.com/wiki/Spider-Man_2:_Enter_Electro_(Pre_9/11_Version)
      There you go :D

    • @dv3050
      @dv3050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was lucky and have had both these games since I was a kid they were my favoraite!

  • @aomcastor2
    @aomcastor2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn, I think I played the Pre 9/11 version then. My memory of when I played the game is always fuzzy, but I cannot believe that these games came very close to the Spiderman movie. It felt like I played the games about 3-4 years prior to the movie and the tying game, but I guess this is how it feels remembering growing up.

  • @misterred6920
    @misterred6920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the original version as a kid i can also remember the name of the last mission against Hyper Electro was named "Top of the world"

  • @AnisterStarlight
    @AnisterStarlight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I know this was for gameplay wise, but the towers weren't that close to each other like in the game.

    • @zax246
      @zax246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They had to be because of how web swinging works. And they outright stated that it's supposed to be trading centre. Imagine trying to release a game when the disaster occurred. Changing the name wouldn't cut it: The wound is too fresh.

    • @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan
      @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@zax246 also some levels are named "Crash Flight", "Aces High", "Downward Spiral" which would bring bad memories and grief to all 9/11 victims

    • @Samm0th
      @Samm0th 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HonestFarmerLigue1Fan I knew about the titles and always thought that "the downward spiral" it's a reference to the band Nine Inch Nails...

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zax246if these two games were ever remade or remastered, I think that enough time has passed for them to be released unedited.

  • @gedeonnunes5626
    @gedeonnunes5626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I'm nearing my 30's and only now I find out that the version I played was the pre-9/11 one! In my memory, the buildings were much further appart. Here in Brazil, the PS1 and PS2 were only the most popular consoles of their respective eras due to how easy it was to pirate their games. In fact, Playstation's capilarity as a brand here to this day is mostly due to it, to piracy XD
    That was a great video, thanks for sharing it.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Welcome to the channel. :D

    • @aSome1
      @aSome1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      bons tempos de maratonar o 1 e o 2...

    • @Machado-hh1fj
      @Machado-hh1fj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tua versao tinha a cutscene do Thor?

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Machado-hh1fj Olá! Obrigado pela pergunta. Pelo que eu sei, a cena de Thor foi completamente cortada de ambas as versões do jogo, mas é referenciada pelo jornal.

    • @ivojose16
      @ivojose16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cara eu nem fazia ideia que a versão censurada tinham as torres juntas. Eu joguei com elas separadas, e lembro ainda da cutscene das torres.

  • @fivejedis
    @fivejedis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did the original versions actually make it to circulation? Or did people just mess with the files to get this original version? Been trying to find a original copy but can't find any, could also be that the people selling them aren't checking which copy they are selling so hard to know what you're getting.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the question! There seem to be mixed answers to that. In an interview with I think IGN, an Activision representative said they had pulled all copies from the production line. Some folks have claimed they had it. It's possible that like the Syphon Filter variant, some got to distribution warehouses and missed the recall. That select few would have made it out.
      As for sellers, I can guarantee 99% of sellers don't know about it from a non-collector angle. That's not a bad thing; we're just the minority. Thankfully it seems the value hasn't spiked - It's been relatively super cheap to buy when it exchanges hands. Most probably feel the few seconds and some text changes don't warrant the hype and search.

  • @The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane
    @The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wait, hold the phone! So you're telling me there were 2 different versions of Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro? Well Jesus Goddamn Christ I never knew that! I remember renting this game back in 2001.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Indeed there was.

    • @mr.pendleton7121
      @mr.pendleton7121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GameRaveTV was the uncensored version ever released?

    • @arciks11
      @arciks11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mr.pendleton7121 I had a bootleg version that bundled 1 and 2 together (they did it by cutting out all CGI cutscenes) and the version of 2 had WTC. So somehow pre 9/11 version was more widespread in bootleg circles.

  • @alvis_studios
    @alvis_studios ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s kinda curious that the final battle for the James Cameron’s Spider-Man film was gonna take place on the World Trade Center, I guess Neversoft tried to reuse this idea for the game

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The original movie trailer having the helicopter stuck between the towers via Spidey's webbing was also in play. Just a huge landmark to use in a huge property.

  • @apedestrian3899
    @apedestrian3899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wait, HOLD ON, they made a sequel to Spiderman 2000 and I never knew!?! I must have been through that game a hundred times on N64 wishing there was another. What!?!

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Welcome to the other side. :D

    • @otheryoutubeChannel
      @otheryoutubeChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Holy shit lol wish there was a 3rd one so I could experience that 😂😂

    • @genyakozlov1316
      @genyakozlov1316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@otheryoutubeChannel The PS2 first movie game plays similarly enough to be considered the third one, and the PSP version of Spiderman 2 is almost like the fourth one.

    • @patrickliterallymebateman9892
      @patrickliterallymebateman9892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me on the contrary I always played Spider-Man 2 in my childhood never knew about the 1st one

  • @NitroNEXT
    @NitroNEXT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a kid, I hated that they used that obvious stock music track for the cut scene.

  • @chubbz5873
    @chubbz5873 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still can't believe that they made the twin towers into a final boss arena. Especially the cutscene shot of it when Spiderman knew where Electro was going.

  • @warsthemarvel8608
    @warsthemarvel8608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Spiderman: "Where would you go to be on the Top of the World? I'm Coming Electro, your power play ends tonight!"
    Electro: "HAHAHA! TONIGHT ELECTRO DANCES WITH THE GODS!!!!
    HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  • @starrythestar
    @starrythestar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I do not like that to consider that 9/11 happened and I get the reason it was altered but, I liked the original version of this game better. The idea that you are on top of the tallest towers made clear sense and real vibe to a final battle. It also made the game more difficult.
    I wish that 9/11 did not ruin the gameplay and make everything quite meh. Hopefully the structural idea of twin towers as a structural design gets ruined over 9/11 and things settle down after a few decades although there are no guarantees. Hopefully all terrorism get eradicated soon in the Middle East.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Sadly terrorism is home grown as well. Theodore John Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, Robert E. Chambliss, and more are all in the same boat as those who attacked the Towers. For some people, regardless of race or sex, violence is the only way they know how to act. Considering the history of humanity, it doesn't seem like violence will ever be itself history.

    • @starrythestar
      @starrythestar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@GameRaveTV I understand and I am aware of such tragedies. However, like I said before I liked the original version of the game better and we should learn from 9/11 but we should not dwell on it. Yes, a new enemy will come and we can't eradicate terrorism or violence. We can believe in the good of ourselves and not stereotype the idea of twin towers being related to 9/11. Next time something traumatic occurs, I hope they sell the new version until the fear dies down at some point.
      Although this game got medium rankings by critics, I bet that if they remake the game and did not censor out the final battle and ending (though I could understand if they kept some of the other areas of censorship) it could get better reviews. I know they wont do it but still, showing the twin towers before the destruction is something that is mostly irrelevant to 9/11. If it depicted the towers getting bombed then yes it should stay censored.

    • @mckdink
      @mckdink 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The sad truth is Terrorism will NEVER die... We can eradicate every radical group from the world, there will always be lunatics that will rise up in its place again
      Same with people like Osama & Sadam... yeah they're dead & gone, but are they truly? Their philosophy & legacy will stay for the next generation of monsters & psychopaths to embody.... Terrorism will never end and that's the sad unfortunate truth... hell we're still dealing with domestic terrorism here in our own country
      The most we can do is stand tall against it

    • @shiny460
      @shiny460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Holy shit they "ruined the gameplay" because they added a fucking bridge and removed a line of dialogue?
      You guys are morons for real

    • @its_sherv
      @its_sherv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@shiny460 I think he didn't referred to that, he meant that the gameplay was ruined because you don't have the sensation of being in the twin towers, which made this battle even better. Though i still think "ruined the gameplay" was an exaggeration

  • @insteument-allover3572
    @insteument-allover3572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wonder what was going on in the towers that made others destroyed it :( . Envy?

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The towers were a national symbol, almost used extensively to know you were in New York when watching various media. Ironically, the original Toby McGuire Spider-Man's first trailer even featured him web-slinging a helicopter between the two towers. It would be like someone destroying the Eiffel Tower, Taj Mahal, or even Mount Rushmore.
      Besides its symbolism, it was also a major business hub for a lot of people, agencies, and companies. I believe a major emergency command center had been moved there as well after previous attacks.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GameRaveTVif these two games were to be remastered or remade, I think enough time has passed for them to be uncensored.

  • @juancarloslemus2866
    @juancarloslemus2866 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No te mms! hoy 11 de sep del 2024 lei la noticia que habia una versión 11/9 de este juegazo, vi tu vídeo y la neta siempre supe que yo si habia jugado el juego sin censura hahahaha, no sé como diablos a mis manos cayó una versión "copia" del juego, en su tiempo lo adquiri en un "tianguis" cuando tenia como 11 años, justo antes del 11/9 lo jugué, el disco se perdió cuando vendi mi PSX pero hoy me di cuenta que siempre jugue una versión sin censurar, cuando vi la escena final de las torres en mi PSX siempre pense que habían metido la escena como un "homenaje" jajajajajaja

  • @G_Zus_PSN
    @G_Zus_PSN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just beat this today on my Vita. Had the censored version apparently. Came to check out the differences.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to the channel! :D

  • @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan
    @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    9/11 also affected some of the level names, "Crash Flight" became "Wind Tunnel", "Downward Spiral" became "The Corkscrew", "Aces High" became "The Gauntlet", and the final battle was changed from "Top Of The World" to "The Best Laid Plans". All these to avoid any references about The Twin Tower, the plane crashed against it and all victims who commited suicide by jumping down the building.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep, that's pointed out in the video - the titles are dotted with yellow highlight - I failed to mention to look for that in the video. :)

    • @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan
      @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@GameRaveTV
      Syphon Filter 3 experienced similar things.
      1. The original cover art was Gabe and Lian enganged in a gunfight against unseen enemies, surrounded by gas. Due to anthrax scare, SONY pulled back all the game disc which had not been sold and alter the cover into close-up face of Gabe and Lian.
      2. One of the hardest levels in this game involving you surviving barrages of attacks from Afghanisan rebels (obvious reference toward Mujahideen, but SONY simply called them as Afghan Rebels).
      3. Weird enough, two player mode, you can choose to play in Afghanistan and there will be memoir about Afghan rebel leader encouraging his people to do Jihad by chasing foreigners out of their land or die trying.
      4. *This is not confirmed* But there is a rumor that in no.2 you are supposed to met/interact/kill/spy on Young Osama in Afghanistan and perhaps SONY changed it to avoid unwanted reactions.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I actually own both, and while I was aware off all the visual changes (the cover art, the edits to the manuals, etc) this is the first I recall hearing there were actual in game changes. I'll have to check this out and eventually do a video on it. Thanks for the heads up!

    • @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan
      @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GameRaveTV
      the gameplay changes are rumor and no one confirmed it yet. With Syphon Filter series dead, no one from SONY would bother to confirm it.

  • @harriettubman2717
    @harriettubman2717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Crash Flight!" OOOOOOOOOF

  • @shirokusanagi3901
    @shirokusanagi3901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I must have a weird version then. In mine, only two of the levels have revised names. I have Crash Flight! and Aces High, but I have the revised The Corkscrew and The Best Laid Plans.
    What's up with that?

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you take photos of the disc and the actual level select screen? You can send them to my contact info here on TH-cam.

    • @shirokusanagi3901
      @shirokusanagi3901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just launched the game for the first time in years. I was going off memory when I made my initial comment, and I was certain that I had Aces High and Crash Flight. It must've been a mandela effect thing or something because this is not how I remember it, but I do indeed have the post-9/11 version.
      Sorry to waste your time man, I thought I was onto something 😓😓

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shirokusanagi3901 Never apologize for a mistaken variant! It's better to investigate and happily prove it wrong than let it linger as a possibility. Research rules all! Thanks for the follow-up! =D

  • @RetroGaming-gp2ef
    @RetroGaming-gp2ef 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    So is the original one playable or not

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Completely playable. The discs were pulled from the assembly line.

    • @razorbulan
      @razorbulan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yes even mysellf find a pre 9/11 iso and play on a ps3

    • @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan
      @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@razorbulan
      I remembered playing The Fixed Version in 2002 (bought the original disc but lost it after I sold my PS1) and also Pre 9/11 version in 2013 (I downloaded the pirated version and played it with emulator, couldn't find the original disc of Pre 9/11 in any game store in my town)

  • @TheSteelStallion
    @TheSteelStallion ปีที่แล้ว

    0.43 isn't that music in Zero?

  • @Sheridan2LT
    @Sheridan2LT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Swear I remember the cutscene being different. I remember thinking it was weird there was a bridge, and thinking oh oh this is quite similar to WTC. Why isn't it correct. LOL I'm European.

  • @ivojose16
    @ivojose16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I didnt know about the fixed version. I played the original version when I was kid, and I remember jumping over the 2 places.

  • @falkreathguard7895
    @falkreathguard7895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think I have the pre 9/11 version... how much would that sell for?

    • @Wolfie_-xz7hs
      @Wolfie_-xz7hs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk maybe a lot, since this copy is kinda rare and you can only find ROMs of it

    • @elbarry7016
      @elbarry7016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wolfie_-xz7hs You mean ISO

  • @r2-kt743
    @r2-kt743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just hear Bastila Shan and Revan

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is it bad I had to google them? >_>;;

    • @r2-kt743
      @r2-kt743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GameRaveTV dr Watts was voiced by Jennifer Hale who voiced Bastila. Spiderman was voiced by Rino Romano who voiced Revan in Kotor

  • @NoctuaOlivae
    @NoctuaOlivae ปีที่แล้ว

    I still don't understand the logic behind these decisions. I get that people might be adverse to seeing depictions of the WTC right after the tragedy, but erasing any mention of it seems like the wrong way to go about it.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s probably more from a monetary standpoint. In current day, TH-camrs are usually shunned and criticized if they monetize a video about a dead person or tragedy after it happened.
      At the time, from an affected person’s point of view something like Spider-man would have come across as, “Hey, we know you lost your loved one, but for $40 you can see men in pajamas duke it out on their grave!”
      I was an hour outside of D.C. when it happened, and my then girlfriend had a friend who was across the street from the WTC. Her friend is still not the same, and her brother lost a friend in the towers. I can say unapologetically that it was the right move at the time to remove it.

  • @ThePrivateGamer19
    @ThePrivateGamer19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How can you tell if you own the original version of the game only by looking at the disc?

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can't, sadly. Easiest way is to toss it into a system, enter AUNTMAY as your password to unlock everything, and then look at the name of the last stage. The discs look identical otherwise.

  • @Wrestling316
    @Wrestling316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It would’ve been so much cooler had they kept The Original World Trade Center Boss Fight! (Not saying the game wasn’t goo!)

  • @tetshua_2127
    @tetshua_2127 ปีที่แล้ว

    yeah we definitely played the pre-9/11 version

  • @polrealfake
    @polrealfake 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The top of the new building reminds me of GTA 3's tallest tower, located awfully close to the irl World Trade Center.

  • @619AGT
    @619AGT ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any way that you could find the pre- 9/11 version of this game?

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes - though it is kind of a pain. There seems to be a decent number of copies that made it out. But the only way to confirm it is to either look at the files on a PC, or do the AUNTMAY password and check the level names.
      If you don't need a physical copy, the game was properly dumped and can be found on everyone's favorite archive : )

    • @Qsallor
      @Qsallor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think on the Internet archive

  • @Cheesecake-c8u
    @Cheesecake-c8u ปีที่แล้ว

    they also cut out the burning buildings concepts in the e3/prototype version of spiderman the movie game

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't know that, interesting!

  • @gypsyauh2o
    @gypsyauh2o 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So I actually was able to buy a pre 9/11 copy. I bought it online before it was in stores, from ebay. Later they stopped the shipment to make the edit. So I played the game like a month before it went on sale. The most glaring difference is one you didn't mention. The pre 9/11 copy has a final cut scene that sees Thor arrive on top the World Trade Tower to chat w/Spidey for a bit. In the post 9/11 copy Thor is removed, the only reference to him is the final Daily Bugle paper Spidey is seen reading before the credits, where he mentions that Thor took all the credit. It seemed like a random reference to most people, but Thor was actually originally in the game.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      gypsyauh2o good catch!

    • @timelymirror7826
      @timelymirror7826 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🧐 you were basically able to pre-order games from eBay back then

    • @Spider_Glider
      @Spider_Glider ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you still have the copy? It would be an amazing discovery if the cutscene was preserved.

  • @eastnewyorka22
    @eastnewyorka22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Is there anyway I can still find the original version?

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hello! If you mean actual physical version, more than likely yes, but the seller would have to know what they have.
      The ISO was released a while back, so If you have an emulator, you can do it that way as well. The changes are so minimal the real version shouldn't be worth that much. I think I paid under $100 for mine a while back.

    • @andrearovenski
      @andrearovenski 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Is the only real way to find the original just looking for black label versions and hoping for the best or is there any other note?

    • @eastnewyorka22
      @eastnewyorka22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks guys! I’ll hope for the best. On my own sub set collecting for games with the WTC in them.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The discs are 100% same visually. Unless you toss the disc into a PSX and type in AUNTMAY as the password so you can quickly see the Level names, the only other way is to toss the disc into a PC / Mac and check the SLUS / SCUS file dates. The 9/11 version will have it's date somewhere in August, where the fixed version will be somewhere in September.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're welcome - Syphon Filter 3 will be your worst nightmare for that then. :O

  • @javi9436
    @javi9436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The pre-11s version is the original one, and is better. The fixed version is censored a lot.

  • @hopefulfriend4163
    @hopefulfriend4163 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    damn I clicked on this thinking Electro caused 9/11

  • @MASSCAL01
    @MASSCAL01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Eerie to see this..

  • @harleyjackson3708
    @harleyjackson3708 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:45-0:50 This is exactly like the Leech Man theme from Resident Evil 0.

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that he’s basically still on the twin towers in the edited version is funny

  • @gregsanders8495
    @gregsanders8495 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey do you have a review of the first spider man

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the comment! Not yet, unfortunately. I am reviewing the entire US library, so it will eventually show up. :)

  • @jacobbailey4810
    @jacobbailey4810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would happen if they never removed the World Trade Center from the game?

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There would most likely have been backlash from a respect standpoint as well as calls for boycotting Activision's products. If the game was advertised or reviewed as having the boss fight where thousands of people died, it would have been seen as trying to financially capitalize on a tragic event and their deaths.

    • @jacobbailey4810
      @jacobbailey4810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GameRaveTV So pretty much a lawsuit?

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re not wrong.

  • @powerlevelvlog1089
    @powerlevelvlog1089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Electro:time to go twin tow I mean radomn building
    Spiderman:I know where he is going
    Electro:hahahahahahahaha
    Spiderman:your gone
    Electro:you try
    Spiderman:slap
    Electro:ded
    Spiderman:(「`・ω・)「

  • @joeylatz7611
    @joeylatz7611 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know the developers were low key pissed off that they had to pull the pre 9/11 copies off the shelves just to tweak the last mission and redistribute it back. Probably cost them a bunch of money out of pocket

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      They more than made up for it in public opinion and approval. Back when Activision still had some of their soul left.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GameRaveTVI do know that the second movie game contained the two beams of light that were at the site as a tribute to the lives lost that day.

  • @kieranwestphal
    @kieranwestphal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    does anyone know if the original release had any identifiable differences in packaging? different ISBN/serial number perhaps? I really want to track one down

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey Kieran!
      No, sadly. The disc art is 100% the same. The only way to tell the difference is to toss the disc into a PC and look at the SLUS file date, or type in "AuntMay" as the password to see the level select stage names.
      This is one of those variants where someone would need to know they have it by playing, rather then looking.
      Thanks for the comment, welcome to the channel! :D

  • @lanagrieve7721
    @lanagrieve7721 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The top-of-the-world thing only makes sense with the World Trade Center because when you’d visit the observation deck they’d call it “being on top of za WARUDO!”

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's why they removed the references in the censored version. : )

  • @francof2437
    @francof2437 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spiderman had a lot going on with the twin towers back in the 2000, afeccting not only this videogame but the first raimi movie too. Its a shame that trageddy just happened, so sad.

    • @francof2437
      @francof2437 ปีที่แล้ว

      Btw, while i was watching this i totally yelled "tonight electro dances with the gods"
      man these two games where gold, Rino Romano voice suits spidy soo good.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's such a great line. XD
      @@francof2437

  • @chinchindaisukiman
    @chinchindaisukiman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so even in the original version electro never says "top of the world"?

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just double checked, he does not. Spidey just happens to know it.
      And then in the Edited version, they remove Spidey saying it.

  • @timelymirror7826
    @timelymirror7826 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙂 almost 20 years since this game released

  • @undershaft8828
    @undershaft8828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could never understand this censorship. Like it's gonna cancel the terrorist attack and consequences.

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's more of a polite respect angle. Selling the game with the content could be viewed as exploiting and profiting off the hysteria of the tragedy.
      Like how people criticize TH-camr Creators who monetize their videos about other creator's tragedies.

  • @ChristianFrates1997
    @ChristianFrates1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dee Bradley Baker FTW!

  • @GiovanniAlckmimRusso
    @GiovanniAlckmimRusso ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit I do have the pre 9/11 version of the game 🤯

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      Disc only? Hole punched? Retail copy?

    • @GiovanniAlckmimRusso
      @GiovanniAlckmimRusso ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GameRaveTV Pirate disc. But it died in 2005

  • @jillvalentinedontcryformea8966
    @jillvalentinedontcryformea8966 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    so i played the og and have the digital Rom

  • @awadinho25
    @awadinho25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The original version is way better

  • @camilajennifer4818
    @camilajennifer4818 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What hell is wrong with Electro's voice?

  • @kevinfelten9059
    @kevinfelten9059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SPIDERMAN 2 ENTRER ELECTRO PS1 VS DREAM CAST V2"5 2021)😃😃

  • @lane0935
    @lane0935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why it's called 9/11 😂

    • @GameRaveTV
      @GameRaveTV  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For being the "Pre September 11, 2001" copy. i.e. before the World Trade Center attack in New York.

  • @oskarzimny2511
    @oskarzimny2511 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had original ver i Poland. Didnt even know that was WTC

    • @farazhuq5568
      @farazhuq5568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m from Bangladesh. Had no idea either. I had the pre 9/11 version as well.

  • @Andrew-wr9dm
    @Andrew-wr9dm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fixed Version, more like Broked Version, no offense, I mean I understand why they changed it, but still. The Terrace caused this "broke" version to happen.

  • @austinabercrombie1734
    @austinabercrombie1734 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d wish that they hadn’t fixed & edited the game after 9/11. U no; because I wanted 2 play the World Trade Center. Matter of fact; I’d wished 9/11 hadn’t happened that day itself.

  • @lityfity4197
    @lityfity4197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bruuh

  • @goth6irl
    @goth6irl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    oof