Chris Broussard on D'Antoni's comment that Harden is the 'best offensive player ever' | UNDISPUTED
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- Chris Broussard joins Skip Bayless, Shannon Sharpe and Joy Taylor to discuss Houston head coach Mike D'Antoni's comment that James Harden is the 'best offensive player ever'. Broussard gives his take on Mike D'Antoni's system and how it's made players better.
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Chris Broussard on D'Antoni's comment that Harden is the 'best offensive player ever' | UNDISPUTED
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Is James Harden starting to establish himself as an all-time great?
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED Yes, And put up numbers like this.. You damn right he can.
Top 50 for sure, all time great? Come on now
some of these comments are pissing me of. i can tell a lot of u just started watching basketball 3-4 years ago cuz no one that has seen dwade in his prime would ever say such stupid things by putting harden over him. I would take Dwade in his prime anyday over James harden. if u see how wade dominated in the playoffs when it really counted before his knee started giving up on him u would understand why he is top 3 after Jordan and kobe. He was literally a guard that was so effective in the paint without even a proper 3 point shot but still won the scoring title in 08 at 6'4! do u realize he would have won mvp that season if the heat roster wasnt so trash they just decided to give it to lebroin that season. And dont get me started on the playoffs, for all of u that dont understand what it means to be a winner go check his stat line in the playoffs especially the year lebron chocked in his first season in Miami. Wade literally was dropping stupid numbers in the finals again just like in 06 when he showcased THE GREATEST FINALS PERFORMANCE SINCE MJ, yes that is a fact.
Malik Geresu agreed but saying he deserved there mvp over lebron is pretty silly, Miami wasn’t near as bad as Cleveland... but back to the real topic here d wade was absolutely incredible before the knee issues, his performance in 06 wasn’t the best since mj it rivals mj at any time during his finals dominance
can you guys start showing the viewers at home the clips as well. kind of akward looking at skips neck
Look at Shannon defending Jordan and kobe against anyone not named LeBron lol
shady shady hahahahaha
Lmaooo facts
shady shady cause those guys on the same level
😂😂😂
That's because LeBron and MJ are so far ahead of almost anyone else. The only other in the convo are Kareem, and arguably Kobe, Wilt. Magic.
Remember when D'Antoni said Gallinari was the greatest shooter he's ever seen? 😂 😂
Silenced PP7 LMAO
Silenced PP7 Damn, you got a good memory 😂
Silenced PP7 😂😂
Yea... he's always been delusional.
Underrated comment 😂😂😂😂😂
Dwayne Wade is slept on. He is the 3rd best SG EVER
ekb0106 James Harden is already better.
jenise jackson no he is not kid lol, wade a better defender and just as good if not better offense with 3 rings
Daniel Loomis offensively I'd put James slightly over Wade cause James is a much better outside shooter and overall shooter than Wade. But Wade is def better all around player than James no question
No ones questioning that. If harden wins a few chips he could easily go down#4.
C Taylor
there’s
jerry west
Clyde drexler
George Gervin
And y’all are crazy forgetting about ALLEN IVERSON
Pretty impressive how they don't get lost in Joy's chest.
What I like about Harden is that he makes it look so easy on the court. It’s almost like he has a lackadaisical element to his game. Hard to explain, it’s like he’s in a pickup game or something.
It is because of his body language when he is playing. He catches the person off guard because initially he is quiet and then BOOM he explodes with speed and plus he is a lefty so it is hard to guard. How he switches from slow then becomes so explosive is what catches so many people off guard
Without those BS foul calls he get's, he wouldn't be half the scorer he is.
Actor supreme. Other than that, he's an unstoppable force.
Period.
James Harden is a great offensive player, but if he's off, as he's been in the playoffs, he has a really hard time finding other ways to impact the game. Kevin Durant is much deadlier because he can beat you so many ways offensively, as well as defensively.
facts
James Harden has much more ways what are you talking about?
yup he's definitely struggling😂
CJ Chewjore KD don't play defense he roaches. Harden had way more up his sleeves than KD. I never seen a KD step back or euro.
dbritton89 that’s because you’re a fcking kid that just started watching basketball 2 years ago.
Wade, Kobe, Jordan, Lebron etc. all made their names in the playoffs, and by playing both ends of the court. Harden is very good, but if he ever wants to be in that conversation, he needs to play better defense and actually show up when your team needs you, not in some meaningless regular season game.
LeBron doesn’t play no D, it looks like he can because he has the size, quickness and jumping ability but he is a great defender.
Really, how the freak is a Coach saying his best player, is the best at anything news? Lame topic
Cause it's a pretty obvious lie
Freaking unfreaking believable
I love the relaxed atmosphere/nature of this show. Genuinely enjoy watching no matter the topics, the relationship between Skip, Shannon and Joy feels genuine and authentic unlike Stephen A and Max on the other show which feels toxic at times. Anyone else think this?
Too damn hot. Yes! Love their honest friendship and banter!
underrated the amount of info and stats these guys remember, even if they're used in the wrong way
Joy ... Omg 🔥
Grownsimba25 yea Joy beautiful lol.
is Joy not suppose to talk? I heard her show and she's smart, witty, funny and knows her stuff. Why have her there and not say anything?
Grownsimba25 go get a girlfriend
I understand that, what I'm saying is that she would be better suited contributing to the discussion instead of just moderating.
does anyone else just stare at Joy the whole time?
So disrespectful of Wade, unbelievable.
Wade is overrated
i honestly cant believe he had the audacity to say that
Wade is not overrated, in fact he's underrated.
Random Bike Trips Wade first team offensive and defensive type player harden is not and Wade could not be guarded in his prime...crazy fast...Kobe Rose and Wade best elite players with speed I saw Iverson as well...
"Wade is overrated." Yes we get it, you started watching baskeball in 2015. FOH.
HARDEN IN MICHAEL JORDANS ERA WOULD BE EXPOSED
He would cook defenders because haven't seen anyone play like him
Shawn69 KB Stop it Jordan is way better than Harden not even close
MINK he would cook Jordan did you see the evolution of double step back 3s lol. Harden can jack up 3s and shoot 40%. Harden can shoot more 3s than the entire team in 90s in 1 season. The only weak part of Harden game is he doesnt play any defense. But offensively he will shock those 90s boys just like how MJ shock them with his athleticism.
MJ would get exposed in today’s era
The moment happened December 30th, 1984 lmao
Thumbnail says it all lmaooo
James Harden against playoff teams (if the playoffs started right now) shoots a lowly 42% from the field. But to Harden's credit I disagree with what Broussard said about Dantoni being the coach. Harden was an MVP candidate in 2015 before Dantoni arrived.
We're in a league where teams need at least 2 or more all-stars to compete for a championship. Last year Houston was projected as an 8th seed in the West, and they ended up with the 3rd best record in the NBA. They lost to a Spurs team that was in a higher seed, had 2 all-stars, and the best coach of all time. Look what at Harden's rockets are doing right now with CP3's help.
Mr. Clutch_6 LaMarcus wasnt an all-star last year, he was a shadow of what he is this year. Second, Kawhi didnt play in game 6 last year cause of injury, same with Tony Parker their starting PG at the time. You point isnt valid, everything was set up for the Rockets to win gane 6 at home, but the epic 2-10 for 10 pts 6 TO and 6 fouls meltdown of their superstar... Again, made me rofl.
He was definitely an MVP candidate that year but curry earned that MVP.
He is the benefiter of lots of phantom fouls so his numbers look good but he is not on MJ or Kobe level of offense and post foot work etc.
TheRebuilt1 he's averaging 10FT a game...
The Knight of Awesomeness
And shoots 87% from there
Church Service yeah that's my point if a good portion of your points are from FTs then how can you be the greatest offensive player...
TheRebuilt1 he is on offense but not defence
TheRebuilt1 neither of them have a better handle than harden. Give and take
Mike must have amnesia he must forgot what Kobe use to do to his suns teams
Kobe shoot under 45% for his career lmao. But i agree haren overrated
Murda SheWrote you know 45% is a one average for guards right? Kobe wasn’t a 6’9 Big body like Lebron or post players are. Yeah, he threw up a lot of bs shots, but Kobe is one of the best shooters.
Brenden Johnson
Harden was a greater shooter than Kobe
Church Service disagree back then you could make contact unlike today game where if you breathe on them its a foul
Lil Dagga he got eliminated by them innthe playoffs before😂😂😂😂😆😆😆 wtf you talkin about
Calling Harden the best offensive player is BLASPHEMOUS
Nobody gonna talk about Howard 30 30 game
Caleb Akinleye they did bro different segment
Wow 30,30 that's awesome
SOFT
Who is Howard
Caleb Akinleye ikr
4:50 such an important discussion. Always gets neglected when ppl compare stats between players nowadays and those in past eras.
20 ppg is easier to maintain now than it was 30 years ago. Most your points were from 2, and you had a harder time making those due to the physicality and bigger players clogging the lane.
This also branches off into rebounds and assists. When your teammates can score easier, that makes for more assists. And teams are stacking spot up shooters which crank out the assists. When less ppl are clogging the lane, less rebound specialists, that’s when these PGs get these high rebounds.
And just think if OKC would've kept him like with harden and KD and RWB would've put up 125 points at night but Houston is his home and he's talking advantage of it... MVB!!
Jay Lee then he never gets to whether he is at
Ha!!! Most Valuable Beard.
Who's RWB?
voetbal12 Russell Westbrook
Why not just RW? Lol. Or KDR or JHD?
Curry and KD are better offensive players, and that is two just in his generation.
Anthony Walker u are smoking good dope because curry not better than harden
thomassin58 yes he is
thomassin58 ur high, curry avg 30 on 50 40 90 and most of them was sitting 4th quarters and lead a team to 73 wins knock it off
thomassin58
curry 3point fg% in 2015-2016 season is 45% while shooting 50% as a whole fg%, higher than harden this season fg% which is 44% and 3point fg% 38%, with curry 3pt fgA is twice more than harden's. Curry lead the league in plus/minus in 4 years in a row, always rested in the 4th quarter when they are blowing team, and his ppg in that season with harden this season is only 1 point difference, with less foul calls than harden. In 2015-2016 season, his winshare is second in the history behind Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Not to mention other stats like P&R, secondary assist, etc
thomassin58 you could make an argument curry is the reason the league shoots so many threes. Yea he is
I love Chris but idk about passing Wade
I’ll take a prime healthy Dwade over this Harden any day
trevion sewell could never shoot ...harden pasted him 2years ago
trevion sewell facts
Harden>wade that’s just facts
Peter u a gsw bandwagon cheerleader lmfao
3-1 Lead L
saying Mike D'Antoni made harden good is false because harden was a mvp candidate (should have won) in 2015
Hes the best dribble dribble bribble isolation player in rucker park
Disagree Harden as much as I think Harden a great talent let's be real here dude shoots like 10+ FT, almost every game, on some of the most bogus fouls... I'm not discrediting him but almost every game I see you breathe on him Foul...
The Knight of Awesomeness
Jordan had seasons when he averaged 10 FTA a game as well
Church Service He only did it 2 times... And that's was when the game was Way More Physical
Church Service yea but when did we ever see MJ flopping for his calls? Just by talking about harden I’m sure I just fouled him.
The difference ain't getting the calls under the rules of the respective era. Difference between Harden and almost any other player is looking to the refs vs looking to score first, finding ways to get the call as your number one priority vs just balling and defenders not finding a way to stop you. As annoying as it is, that's not a knock on Harden either as it is a knock on the rules. Creating the contact yourself (especially but not solely when combined with flopping) should be changed to an offensive foul or at least a play-on
Shannon is always tryingg to put Lebron in the convo.
‘Imagine if he was 6”9 ooo skip I know a guy” 😂😂 I DIED
What makes Harden hard to guard is his flopping. Dude throws his head back and flails his arms when a defender gets near him. Half of Harden's points basically come from the free throw line, and many others because defenders have to stay 10 feet away from him so Harden doesn't reach out and touch their arm while shooting. Pathetic. Hopefully the NBA will create a rule penalizing him for faking fouls every game.
JHatch65 I think you just fouled harden by just saying this.
Jhatch65 harden scores 8 of his 32 points a night at the line on average thats not half. Also MJ scored 7 points a game from the line oh wow MJ is pathetic good logic dude do your homeowork
Last night Harden shot 4 - 20 from the field, and 0-8 from three. He scored 21 points total (8 points from the field), but shot 18 free throws - ONLY 1 LESS THAN THE ENTIRE Detroit Pistons team. 13 of his points came from the charity stripe, WHICH IS MORE THAN HALF. Jordan never sought to get fouled like Harden clearly does. Seems like my homework is more accurate than you're willing to give credit to.
thats one game im talking season averages which makes way more sense. Thats like me saying one game MJ shot 1-15 from the field therefore he is inefficient. You have to look at per game averages lol
First of all, Harden shoots over 10 free throws a game, which is ridiculous. And when I said half of his points basically come from the free throw line, you do realize that I was not being literal, correct? My point was that he is hard to guard because the dude tries to get fouled almost every time he has the ball.
Im taking wade all day. If lebron bumass would have put atleast 5 more points each game in 2011 wade woulda had 2 finals mvp and 4 rings. Harden aint close but hes really good. Wade also plays d
Paul Bearer
U mean finals mvp cuz wade always had 1 more anyways
Burnaby 604 wade got one finals mvp brown got 3
Lol Lebron is better than Wade 😂😂
The best part of this show is definetly Joy Taylor.
James Harden dribble moves "Da Dat. Dada Dat Dat Dat". Lmaoooooo
Let’s see in the playoffs
Harden is now better than Kobe and MJ???? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I see Shannon finally giving Kobe & MJ praise because Harden is threatening LeBron "best ever" anything
harden is threatening lebron? uh what
thekillermike22 Goes 1.Lebron/KD
2. Lebron/KD
3. Steph
4. Harden
5. Kawaii when healthy/giannis/Westbrook.
Willie James harden not on lebrons level i dont care how good he is at offense
True
kawhi is top 3 when healthy. easily
Side note...Joy be looking so good. I love the wide shots they be getting
Joy over there looking like a succulent green apple 🔥😍😍🔥
Harden is offensive Juggernaut and can beat you like in four different ways and and he'll be a Houston great as well.
Jay Lee can't bear you in 4 different ways, he's a scorer
Already is a Houston great
He can be a Houston Great .. IF HE WINS ONE.
Alonzo Watches Vids T Mac is a Houston great and didn't win anything
Tyreck Says he will beat you at the 3pt line, at mid range, driving to the basket, he will beat you in the pick and roll, he will beat you with his passes with his dribbling with his high offensive I.q. and he will make you foul him cause you can't guard him forcing double teams leaving guys open for a pass from harden....
He does more than just score you casual
There y'all have it. Don't compare generations. No more LeBron and Jordan talk. Two different leagues. No big men nowadays, no hand checking, no defense really. Let it rest
ronny lopez these bronsexuals don’t realize that the paint is always wide open for lebron to waltz his way through in
these childen dont realize lebron has been dominating since he came in the league 15 years ago before the game became a 3 point shootout
You can make that case for shooters but lebron would be effective in any era
The player who is the most physically dominating player in the league would struggle in a more physical league? You must be high, Curry, Kyrie, Kemba, Westbrook and even Durant would have problems in the 90's, not a 6'8 250 pound freight train
The3pleThreat Westbrook would probably destroy that league. His mental game is on another level. LeBron is mentally weak, he'd crumble after he gets knocked down and begs for a call when there isn't one. Once he figures he wouldn't get the calls he gets now, he becomes a jump shooter, and a poor one at that.
6:27 is the funniest thing I ever heard hahahaha
"We dont even shoot this shot and I just made whatever it is in a row"
"The moment happened December 30th 1984"
😂😂😂😂
Joys cannons looking good in the green!!!!!
Yes i love her commentary ...
harden my guy, but he not the best offensive player
CheffClout agreed. My favourite player since kobe and he is not the best offensive player ever
Carl O harden right now he's not but harden can eventually equate to Kobe. Not surpass him though. You also gotta remember harden is an elite passer.
Sorry I could not focus due to the 2 lovely balls in green..
People forget how great dwade was , scoring, defense, an underrated playmaker, and one of the clutchest players ever... I wish he never got hurt.
No matter wat the topic is about on this show Shannon always brings up LeBron everytime never fails
He's just talking up his boy.
Just waiting until the playoffs
D wade number 3 SG of all time and thats a FACT. the disrespect is real
D Wade was a better shooting guard than Jerry West are you high or something
Guillermo Pi Lajes no
I am The Canvas in the 60s when the league was a joke. When the defensive three-second violation left sometimes the rim wide open. Where there were only 4 great players in total and rest were part time NBA players with regular jobs. Put MJ, D Wade, LBJ, Kareem, Kobe, Shaq, Magic and the list goes on... Could imagine what those guys would accomplished if they played in that period.
the D Wade vs Jerry West argument is literally today's version of LeBron vs Kobe. Kobe and Wade have more rings and success but Bron and West have more statistical accomplishments
Yeah but D Wade> J West, Lebron> Kobe
PhillyOjo wade has better stats and accomplisments than west. There's really no argument for west besides the titles
Right now top 5 SGs
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Jerry West
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Clyde Drexler
one of the greatest scorers in history and offensive supernova who makes the people around him better as well
Damn Chris Broussard is the GOAT, this guy always makes sense and never comes out of left field with nonsense.
Nash put in work without D'Antoni
Harden has a deeper arsenal of offensive moves and is impossible to guard. Not athletic but extremely skilled
kawhi clamps him everytime they play
to be the best you got to beat the best & that test will come very soon for James Hard
Thomars Carter
Already has an L against LeBron.
So much for that nickname, “Big Game James!” Lmao
Boi his offense is not even better than wilt chamberlain micheal jordan Kareem Abdul jabber Kobe LEBRON
Musa not don’t forget about Steph, KD, Kyrie.
Tommywood harden is a better offensive player than Kyrie
Lmao Skip trying to be sneaky with those Roid allegations at the end
“Ta da ta da da da” Shannon is the goat 🐐 😂
We gonna act like 7:53 aint happen lmaooooo
Since Kobe we have to admit Kevin durant is the best offensive player period it’s not even close
Harden being the best offensive weapon is the best joke I've heard in a long time
D’Antoni drinking that special Kool - Aid!
hardens my dude but he hasnt brought his team to the finals, until then hes not there just yet. mj, kobe, wade, bron, Curry, KD are all before harden imo...BUT if those shots fall, lol it'll be interesting
Kobe and Jordan must of not played
All i know is that whatever Chris say i listen and that's it!!
i like how Skip mentioned how he would be asking "hard" questions on Lebron's 17th/18th season hahahha
This is laughable. Those guys had twice as many skills. Harden relies on foul calls and feasts on today's rules. If Jordan and Kobe played today, they'd destroy the NBA with the range of skills they have.
D'antoni said J. Lin was one of the great players.
Boogie Loo I agree. The fouls calls that Harden gets is like he’s Jedi mind tricking the refs
maurice horton - it's ridiculous. It's not just Harden. All perimeter players today get ridiculous calls because of today's rules and foul interpretations. Guys like Harden and Lebron however get much more with their superstar status. It would be nice to see thee guys have to play through contact - so many plays at the basket today aren't legit plays and they just throw the ball up with no chance of converting because they know a foul call is coming. If MJ or any player from the past had this type of leeway, their numbers would be even more outrageous than they were.
What's even more ridiculous is how we live in a world where people, including NBA coaches feel justified in making bombastic statements and gross generalizations without evidence as nobody is ever held accountable - people need to call them out occasionally.
Boogie Loo LeBron should get more calls than he does. Driving to the hole the most in his career & averaging the least amount of attempts in his career. I think Durant gets more calls than LBJ.
Boogie Loo if if if if if if......stop it
Kobe played in today’s rules...
Chris Broussard is always right
Those glasses 😂👍
I'm at 0:08 and I already know this is gonna turn into a segment of Skip's Love Affair w/ Michael Jordan... oh and a little bit of other players because I guess some of them can play offense too
Shannon looking sharp in that suit
A Lonell Da Flexx9od pun intended right ? Can’t just put that out there like that .
Bars
Of course pun intended. That suit is 🔥fire 🔥🔥 tho
Curry> harden
Kendall Marshall was averaging a double double in LA under D’antoni.
Damn JOY😍😍
Chris Broussard the man!
Steve Nash is one of the greatest shooters all time, and the dude was so unselfish and didn’t prefer to shoot. But he had Steph Curry level accuracy
But not quite as fast a release as Steph. I respect your comment but I don't think Steve Nash is comparable to Curry. Curry was hand-reared from birth to be the shooting machine he is today.
Bro are you high?
Darius Clark Nash shot 50-40-90 4X his efficiency was high he had playoff games where he scored 48-50 points he preferred to pass he could’ve averaged 20ppg or more. It’s a more PG scoring league now.
Nash didn't have the range of Curry or the pull-up ability Curry has. He definitely was a great shooter, but Curry is the best shooter ever in most people's eyes, and for good reason.
Darius, the volume argument is always hypothetical. You don't know what Nash's numbers would look like if he had shot more so you can't argue that. Truth is, he was a very tactical player. He wouldn't shoot the tre in someone's face, he looked for good opportunities. Steph Curry will straight up fire it from anywhere at any time, sometimes from 5 yards behind the line and often from angles that Nash would consider 'bad'.
I acuatly agreed with skip today
Kobe had a streak of 65, 50, 60, and 50 point games. . .
he's not even the best offensive player of his generation, let alone ALL of them. say what?!
Lynn W tell em how ya feel
ik Lebron is the best PLAYER of this generation.
Radhee James Wrong Obviously it's Sean Lee
Radhee James no
Lynn W name someone better 🤔🤔
Mark Jackson would say Steph and Klay is the greatest backcourt of all time when no one else believed them!
"He goes Dadda-Darararadda"
- Shannon Sharpe
I just love skip and shannons undisputed first take and d others nah good job
James harden LeBron james is a good offensive players
The best offensive player is clearly. Stephen Curry 🍛
This whole segment was a missed opportunity.
Yes all the greats take a back seat to Stephen Curry.
Go ahead come at this!
90s - Stockton-Jordan-Pippen-Malone-Olajuwon vs 2010s Curry-Harden-James-Durant-Davis
just about shows you how different the game is... from hard defence, contested two pointers and post domination to three pointers, ball movement, athleticism, team defence.
Shoots under 30% in go ahead shots and 41% in game 7s- Assassins mentality!
MJ, Kobe, Bron, Shaq, Steph... all better than Harden offensively
Harden can easily have as many points as mj n kobe if he had a team that was solely designed around him like kobe and mj did. Harden imo noone is as versatile as Harden is offensively.
Ghost Note so when did harden get a post game?
chris broussard need his own show
I personally think Harden is so hard to guard because of his complete offensive skillset AND the constant fear of fouling him. I don’t know about others but I think that’s pretty sad for one of an elite player’s most vital traits to getting past you is the fact that he is always looking for a way to fake contact and bump INTO YOU so he can go to get some nice free points. Many players pump fake and try to juke opponents into a foul but Harden’s style is so much less outplay and much more scummy and excessive.
James Harden is this the best at manipulating the referees thats why he looks so great have you watch James Harden's getting close to in the playoffs when he don't get the BS calls he don't have great games
Shaquan Newton
Because he get double teamed all the time in the past
Harden relies on how soft the game is to be a great as he is real talk. Dude is really good but unlike him put kobe and lebron in the 80s/90s they would still be the beasts they are. Harden not so much
OptimisticMan
You have NO evidence to justify that... that can never be proven
OptimisticMan Kobe did play in the 90's...
Finally Sharp mentioned the defense of yesteryear
broussard is 100% correct about todays game been saying it for the last five years