▶ Comparison of T2: Judgment Day 4K HDR10 (DNR) vs T2: Judgment Day 4K Skynet Blu-Ray Edition

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  • @kthx1138
    @kthx1138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    It's a shame they can't simply give us the resolution increase--they've got to monkey with the color and contrast. Leave it the hell alone--it looks great in the Skynet Edition!

    • @nolann3815
      @nolann3815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ohhh STFU LOL

    • @QFilmz
      @QFilmz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@nolann3815 why you telling him to STFU when he’s right ?

    • @K1NGDANG3R
      @K1NGDANG3R 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "They" = James Cameron lol

    • @JohnDoe-uu2zs
      @JohnDoe-uu2zs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly Mike

    • @Jorge_Ambruster
      @Jorge_Ambruster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also, remember, this are screen captures from two very different color spaces. HDR is Rec 2020. Non HDR is Rec709. They are made to "match" but you always sacrifice the look of one to get the other to match

  • @BeforeiSleepFilms
    @BeforeiSleepFilms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Darn! Some shots were changed for the better but most look washed out on the 4k. Really seems to change the whole mood of the scenes. Thanks for the comparison work!

    • @sermerlin1
      @sermerlin1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean... You would need an HDR display in order to look proper. I just don't get it how can these 2 be compared.
      Yes you can "color correct" tone map it back to SDR but still it will be lacking due to it being made for HDR and not SDR. I haven't seen the 4k version yet but something tells me that those "washed out" colors are actually the colors that are only seen on HDR WCG displays.

    • @FiftyShadesOfDave6603
      @FiftyShadesOfDave6603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sermerlin1 I have the 4k and it looks just as washed out as this video shows. The teal colour overcasts every scene and makes the contrast look flat and muddy. The colour timing is completely off and something tells me it done that way for the 3d conversion.

    • @SketchTurnerZero
      @SketchTurnerZero ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FiftyShadesOfDave6603 4k doesnt mean HDR

    • @amvlabs5339
      @amvlabs5339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nah that sounds like bullshit to me @@sermerlin1

    • @sermerlin1
      @sermerlin1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amvlabs5339 nah.

  • @sunstudiosyoutube
    @sunstudiosyoutube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I actually gave my 4K away after a few viewings ... couldn't get over the color changes that were made. Those beautiful warm LA vistas were cooled down so much - didn't feel like the same film to me I grew up with since '91. So jarring. A real shame because I loved the resolution upgrade as well as seeing the 3D presentation in the theatre (looked glorious). Preferred viewing now is the 2015 blu that came out as a promotion before Genesys (which is a slight boost over the Skynet Edition - which I kept for the features).

    • @swordfish356dt
      @swordfish356dt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed

    • @mikeg2491
      @mikeg2491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I keep all my Terminator Lasediscs, DVDs and Blu-ray’s because each sacrifices something to gain something else. Same with T1 where the first DVD has the mono soundtrack but no HD picture. Even have a rare Japanese LD of T2 with the original print that has no color timing that JC freaked out over and had pulled.

    • @golluns
      @golluns 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You just had to configure the TV to display warmer colors!

  • @sarlaccbreath7701
    @sarlaccbreath7701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Wow that’s like night and day! Literally. All the night shots look like daytime in 4K.

    • @E101ification
      @E101ification 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that a good thing, though?

  • @gjk2012
    @gjk2012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    What a shame with the 4k version. It looks like they tried to brighten all of it including shadows with an unnatural orange teal. I want the shadows to be dark black not brighten it with orange. It completely changes the atmosphere of the movie. And this was approved by Cameron? Funny thing is the 4k version of Predator was a definite upgrade from the Ultimate Hunter Edition while the 4k version of Terminator 2 is a downgrade from the Skynet Edition.

    • @DyslexicGod
      @DyslexicGod 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Predator remaster was crap looked like wax figures DNR'd to death

    • @killer92173
      @killer92173 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When the 4K remaster of Alien came out, that was excusable because Alien is a very dark lit movie and you can definitely see more details while the blacks are also deep as well. This just looks like they turn up the brightness while giving it a tint of Orange. It just looks wrong.

    • @DuaneCarltonMerrittmusic
      @DuaneCarltonMerrittmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You clearly don’t know how lighting and shadowing works then

  • @kpag3030
    @kpag3030 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    The 4K looks overbrightened and washed out to me

    • @E101ification
      @E101ification 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And greener.

    • @dailydoseofeverything7141
      @dailydoseofeverything7141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      both of them are 4k one just has hdr

    • @shanelandstrom4469
      @shanelandstrom4469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dailydoseofeverything7141 The Skynet version is blu ray which is 1080, not 4k

    • @lancecarl8649
      @lancecarl8649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A tip : you can watch movies on Flixzone. I've been using them for watching a lot of movies lately.

    • @hayeslorenzo8624
      @hayeslorenzo8624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lance Carl definitely, have been watching on flixzone for since november myself :D

  • @jimsmith8797
    @jimsmith8797 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Idc I just got 4K edition and it's sharp as hell. Could careless if it's not the best. Plus $7.50 at target

    • @Nish84
      @Nish84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Its sharp, but no grain.

    • @johnny05100
      @johnny05100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude you’re not kidding. Looks sharp and just how I like it

    • @Free-JackWolff
      @Free-JackWolff 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't more either but I'm keep my Blu-ray as well.

    • @maulcs
      @maulcs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's blurry/waxy as hell, a DNR nightmare. Honestly, people who "like" this garbage are why companies keep getting away with these travesties. Thankfully we finally have a quality version of Predator after the Ultimate Hunter DNR debacle - maybe T2 will eventually get fixed as well.

    • @vrtrunky552
      @vrtrunky552 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maulcsDamn, don’t you love objectivity.

  • @brianboardwell1986
    @brianboardwell1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you don’t want overused DNR don’t buy the Skynet edition. Make sure it’s the 2015 blu ray.

  • @miniroll32
    @miniroll32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    StudioCanal: Okay Jim, time for another T2 release. Shall we revise it or restore it?
    Jim Cameron: Yes.

    • @williamdriver1959
      @williamdriver1959 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didint approve this transfer.

  • @Laissez-faire402
    @Laissez-faire402 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I remember people bad mouthing the Skynet Blu Ray release back in 2009, but i honestly don't see the problem with it.

    • @duncandonuts5268
      @duncandonuts5268 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because they removed all the grain with DNR in the Skynet Edition and 4K transfer. Smoothed out everyone's skin and loses detail in the picture quality. Generally frowned upon.

  • @Franniiv3
    @Franniiv3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great comparisons, I have the Lionsgate, Optimum and Skynet BD's and I prefer the USA Lionsgate, which is the oldest of the ones I have. Barebones HD source, no tweaking or 'correcting' just the film as we all saw it on VHS but n HD 'As far as I can tell anyway'. BTW Grain is essential, it's literally the light! I think some confuse grain with tape artefacts. I have a soft spot for the 2001 Momentum DVD, it's how I've watched it the most for the past 20 years!

  • @stasiuwong
    @stasiuwong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's strange that the UHD captures of the bar scene are wildly inconsistent in luminance and saturation, like a see-saw.
    I see the BD is a little hot in the white levels, but the reduced whites in the UHD seem dull or flat.
    👍Thanks for the comparison; I'll stick with the Skynet BD this time.

  • @TCFan25
    @TCFan25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Besides the waxy, washed out looking feel of the 4K, the one thing I also find detracting is the highlighting of shadows, particularly those cast on the character's face - ie Sarah at 4:42. Doing so removes the darker undertone element of the film.

    • @phaolo6
      @phaolo6 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Incredible.. it's so bad it looks like amateur work 😓
      EDIT: however, now I wonder if OP just used the HDR source improperly 🤔

  • @IANC4EVER
    @IANC4EVER ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the 4k version makes some shots look like the foreground character has been 'green screened' into a fake background. Compare @3:33 to @3:45 for example.
    Better detail yes, but my eye kept preferring the Skynet version...👎
    So glad you do these comparisons 👍👍 Thanks.

  • @krishnaprasath
    @krishnaprasath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I own the Skynet Edition blu-ray and its the best....

    • @tph2010
      @tph2010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doesn't the 4k come with the Skynet Edition Bluray?

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nope !

    • @NumaanTahir
      @NumaanTahir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tph2010 well sorta there's two versions taken from the skynet version If I can remember and what they do is still use the 4k version whilst adding scenes from the skynet edition you'll know if it's the deleted scene when the colour changes from the 4k version to the original version on blu ray

  • @AlexThorn
    @AlexThorn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Idk... I watched it last night and was incredibly disappointed. I instantly noticed how everything looked like an Instagram light filter was on the movie. And especially noticed during the stunts that it looked like a digital face was put on to the stuntman to look like the original actors. It... I regret buying it. Trash transfer in my opinion.

    • @abdullahshaker17
      @abdullahshaker17 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this the blu ray remaster you talking about or 4k ?

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      4K !

    • @abdullahshaker17
      @abdullahshaker17 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ohh Okay. I bought the remaster of Terminator 2 Judgment Day on Blu-Ray couple of weeks ago. I'm happy with what I got. I personally think the movie looks better than ever.

    • @AlexThorn
      @AlexThorn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I came to a 4k Blu-ray review to complain about the regular Blu-ray... Yup... That's what this comment is about. Yes, it's about the 4k transfer. That's the point of this video.

    • @blitzkriegfreddy5717
      @blitzkriegfreddy5717 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It looked awesome on my Qled although I remember watching it on a 13" tube tv when I was a kid lol

  • @LizBarbarian
    @LizBarbarian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    VHS WIN!

  • @Swaggaccino
    @Swaggaccino ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmmm seems like Skynet edition can't do darkness as well as 4k edition but 4k edition seems to have more washed out colors. I do love the resolution bump. Absolutely stunning upgrade for the clarity.

  • @bradenhogan2
    @bradenhogan2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I actually like the 4K version but only as a longtime fan who was interested in seeing how the movie might look if it were released today (what with the orange and teal effect and all.) For someone who hasn’t seen it, I would recommend the Blu-Ray as it is closer to the theatrical experience, which I think is important to preserve. Here’s hoping Dark Fate will live up to the legacy of this all time great sequel. Honestly, I wish they included both versions of the film in the 4K release, but I guess James Cameron really wanted us to watch his updated version from now on.

    • @adanrios7951
      @adanrios7951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have the skynet version on bluray - but digital version of the 4K remaster - I actually like the look of the 4K remaster (but to each his own) it seems like Cameron wanted to make the blue more prevelant.

  • @jeffcrenshaw9932
    @jeffcrenshaw9932 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Madame Tussaud’s Arnold! Wow DNR really makes him look waxy!! Hate it in comparison, but if you only watch the 4k UHD then eventually you won’t realize how much detail is killed by the DNR.

  • @9114SouthCentralAv
    @9114SouthCentralAv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A great example of a truly fucked up 4K transfer. Adam Greenberg’s Oscar-nominated cinematography is RUINED.

  • @robschneider8310
    @robschneider8310 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Im amazed at the difference. I thought 4k was mostly about resolution and Hdr made a bit of a difference, but evem without a 4k hdr display, the difference seems major. Do the remasters are always so well done?

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      For Already at the time, the picture was fantastic, but with the supervision of James Cameron and his director of photography, they reworked everything. Only problem is that there are people who love the image via DNR and others who hate. that one. absolutely.

    • @E101ification
      @E101ification 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It's not well done. The differences you're seeing are the result of altering the colour palette and excessive DNR. The colour palette didn't need altering and the colour you're seeing is not _closer_ to the "real life" colour of the scene but actually further away from it.
      As for the DNR to remove the film grain, film grain is part of the original recording, there's no magical way to remove it and get a "clean" version of the visual - DNR is essentially just smudging the image until the grain is so mixed into itself it becomes uniform. Not only are you actually _losing_ detail by doing this but it creates a "waxwork" effect, making people look like wax figures.
      Basically, a few filmmakers like Cameron (who, in case you weren't aware, has totally lost his mind in recent years) think a smooth image is more important than an authentic one, so they DNR the hell out of their releases, sacrificing detail for smoothness which completely negates the point of a 4K resolution, so they do some quite drastic changes to the colour palette to make you think you're getting an "improved" image when you actually aren't.

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Unfortunately this is the case, but basically I agree with you !

  • @LILGHETTI
    @LILGHETTI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Let's hope Jim Cameron doesn't go ham on other 4k movies like terminator 1 or aliens! I prefer the blu-ray because I'm used to seeing it on DVD all the time, Time to upgrade! Great comparison video

  • @bumblefritz
    @bumblefritz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The 4K seems to have a lot of noise reduction and some over exposure going on.

  • @johnDingoFoxVelocity
    @johnDingoFoxVelocity 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can i ask you a question does your 4k comparison have VRR and VRRC turned on or off.
    For new people new to 4k please turn off VRR and VRRC
    Its messes with color sync.
    If you have these turned on.
    VRR. Variable refresh rate limits the 4k refresh rate.
    VRRC Variable refresh rate color limits color spectrum
    Dont trust any review on youtube until they do this.

  • @ELcinegatto87
    @ELcinegatto87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The studio 4K while not perfect, is NOT THAT BAD, infact a lot these A/Bs look WAY better on the official 4K release. I won the 4K version along with tons of other UHDs and standard Blurays. I don't mind DNR, they probably went a little too far on this one. But then again overly grainy is not good either, it's all about finding the right balance for the film.

  • @hawaiidispenser
    @hawaiidispenser 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm watching in 4k and I see virtually no resolution increase at all on the 4k edition. All I see is the color saturation and brightness raised.

    • @ofb-jq5lc
      @ofb-jq5lc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The human eye can not distinguish resolution past 1080p 2K, especially as one gets older and eyesight is compromised. 4K is a big scam. It is just messing with the colour and contrast settings to give a false impression.

    • @MrQuicheProductions
      @MrQuicheProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ofb-jq5lc huh you clearly can, it just depends on your screen and the way it was filmed

  • @franciscomaidana9172
    @franciscomaidana9172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Skynet > 4K

    • @davherex
      @davherex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      2015 Blu-ray > Skynet > 4K

  • @Highbudget
    @Highbudget 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Blu ray looks like the definitive look to me, seems like they changed things for the 4K just for the sake of making it look a bit different and to justify a 4K release

  • @azazellon
    @azazellon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Shame, guess I'll stick to the VHS version or older DVD releases.

    • @nolann3815
      @nolann3815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No one cares.....

    • @NeoConnor1
      @NeoConnor1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You cared enough to comment.

  • @ShamrockParticle
    @ShamrockParticle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great comparisons, thanks!
    Some scenes look better in 4k, but the overemphasis on teals and oranges do distract at times.
    The bar scenes do look smokier...
    And I like some of the brightness ramped up.
    But denim is always blue, not teal or green.
    Or the sky. At least on Earth, regardless of say or night.
    The skynet lab going from blue to teal is horrid... and 4:35 the contrast/shadow detail for Sarah also seem off, but the latter showed those scenes were already teal.
    4:48 the explosion starts too yellow, but the new version is muted and dour.
    Yeah, all in all, the previous transfer looks better. :(

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      First of all, thank you very much for your very interesting comment. However, you should know that this video was posted at a time when the HDR option did not yet exist on TH-cam. This is why you see this kind of problem regarding colorimetry. In addition, this film was entirely criticized by some or all fans. And unfortunately James Cameron's films then became very harsh with criticism, which I sometimes find unfair. But hey......we can't change the world !!!

    • @ShamrockParticle
      @ShamrockParticle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Mymoonization thanks much for the info!! (I got the disc and popped it in straightaway, without looking at the details on the box. This might be the first without HDR that I've seen 🤯. )

  • @gavbob7879
    @gavbob7879 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great comparison video again, I own the 4K disk and I think it looks great..everyone to their own I suppose

  • @LukeLovesRose
    @LukeLovesRose ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what sucks most about the DNR on the latest Terminator 2 4K transfer?? T2 revolutionized DVD home video with T2: Ultimate Edition DVD.
    T2 deserves so much better.

  • @GacMan47
    @GacMan47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should compare the 4k to the recent Blu-ray release. Better encode so it looks better and clearer in my opinion. Uses AVC instead of VC-1. The cover is Arnold on his bike with T2 in big letters behind him. Also has the Lossless audio that's on the 4k.
    The Skynet edition is inferior.

    • @raminybhatti5740
      @raminybhatti5740 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that's the Canal+ Blu-ray in Europe. Wonderful release.

  • @luisa.belmares5716
    @luisa.belmares5716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I'm ok with the use of DNR, but I don't like the color correction.

    • @killercaritas9442
      @killercaritas9442 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Luis Pimentel also looks a bit smoky

    • @goodsuc81
      @goodsuc81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For me it’s the other way around

  • @MrNiceKnife
    @MrNiceKnife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was my 1st blu ray in 2006 and also 1st 4K. I like the 4K overall but there are some scenes that are distracting with the DNR especially on John’s face in one scene. What’s the best version of this on Blu-ray? I haven’t seen my original one in ages and haven’t even tried the blu that came with the 4K. Great vids too man. You deserve more subs.

    • @djsoulfilter
      @djsoulfilter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Best version on Blu-ray is the 2015 release.

    • @weesnaww
      @weesnaww 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djsoulfilter can you explain differences between 2015 blu ray and skynet edition? I'll Google it but if you're knowledgeable on it I'd appreciate any info. I have the 4k version (got it not knowing the issues) and want to invest in a more accurate blu ray

    • @djsoulfilter
      @djsoulfilter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@weesnaww They are the exact same transfer except that the Skynet edition has DNR used so you lose some of the film grain. The 2015 Blu-ray has no DNR and retains the film grain. Color grading on both Blu-ray’s are the same. It comes down to whether you prefer sharpness from film grain being preserved or a cleaner looking image (with slightly less sharpness) from DNR being applied to the film grain.

    • @weesnaww
      @weesnaww 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@djsoulfilter thank you! Yes I read up on it a little bit more now. Do you have any idea what version the 1080p blu ray that came with my 4k disk is though?

    • @djsoulfilter
      @djsoulfilter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@weesnaww sadly the 1080p Blu-ray that comes with the 4K packaging is a downconvert of the same 4K transfer

  • @Rock2005Star
    @Rock2005Star 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful!!
    So just to be clear, the blu-ray edition included with this 4K release is the SAME as the Skynet blu-ray edition?! Or are they different still?

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Different still !!!

    • @Rock2005Star
      @Rock2005Star 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mymoonization WOW!! Ok!
      I had a feeling you were gonna say that, so I went ahead and ordered the Skynet Blu-ray edition off Amazon even before you'd responded. lol
      This is because I compared the opening bar scene (based on a section of your video!) on my 4K disc to the accompanying Blu-ray disc, and they looked the same to me in terms of certain parts looking "smeared" or else blown out. So now I know to expect better from the Skynet video.
      Thanks moon!!! 👌👌👌🤘

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Rock2005Star Well Skynet is probably the best Standard BD edition for this movie !!

    • @Rock2005Star
      @Rock2005Star 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mymoonization Yes, it would appear so!!
      Even on Amazon, SEVERAL user reviews reference the Skynet Edition as being the most superior one of all, again over even the 4K version.
      Can't wait to get it now!

  • @Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r
    @Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They could’ve just gave us a 4K release of the Skynet Edition but instead we got this.

  • @theopenrift
    @theopenrift 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have very mixed feelings about the new DNR in the 4K Edition. On one hand, original film detail preservation is lost for a clean look, but on the other, the DNR is genuinely impressive for a remaster, especially because it reveals a hell of a lot of detail.

    • @schwartzy65
      @schwartzy65 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It also make ppl look like wax models... And that new color scheme is bad

    • @FPGNinja157
      @FPGNinja157 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@schwartzy65 nah, looks great man. You're tripping.

    • @schwartzy65
      @schwartzy65 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@FPGNinja157 it doesnt... It looks nothing like the film should and originally looked.

  • @SagaciousFrank
    @SagaciousFrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surely the 4K HDR colour grading can't be properly assessed via the SDR of TH-cam?

  • @thelastdefenderofcamelot5623
    @thelastdefenderofcamelot5623 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can tell some of the frames were a completely new scan and some that were unfortunately not able to be fully restored so it was using the same scan from the previous one.

  • @tshepp89
    @tshepp89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great vid! The 4K doesn't look good to me. Loses all the shadows. T2 had such great night shots!

  • @canalcenasdefilmesepicos5724
    @canalcenasdefilmesepicos5724 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pena que essa edição 4k não chegou aqui no Brasil so a skynet edition

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Você tem que escrever para a studioCanal porque eles são muito rígidos em termos de pressão internacional !!

    • @canalcenasdefilmesepicos5724
      @canalcenasdefilmesepicos5724 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Mymoonization não creio aqui no Brasil o blu-ray nacional foi distribuído pela universal Pictures e por si só já não vendeu muito bem e sobre o 4k nem chegou aqui os playrs que rodam esse disco pra falar a verdade blu-ray praticamente está morto aqui no Brasil

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@canalcenasdefilmesepicos5724 Que vergonha !!!

    • @canalcenasdefilmesepicos5724
      @canalcenasdefilmesepicos5724 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Mymoonization verdade

  • @404originalitynotfound2
    @404originalitynotfound2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice comparison video and thank you for making it

  • @_atinsy
    @_atinsy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All blud had to do was scan the original negative at 4k and maybe digitally fix some tears, scratches etc...
    But for some reason the people involved went ahead and messed with the color and contrast, smh...

  • @jfralick83
    @jfralick83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t understand why I’m seeing so much hate on this 4k UHD blu ray release. I’m watching on a Samsung QLED 55” and Xbox One X and it looks amazing. Is it that people aren’t calibrating the HDR settings properly on their televisions?

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No, it's because they DNR'd it all to hell and now there's no detail to the image. Everything looks flat and the people look like wax figures.

    • @jfralick83
      @jfralick83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rilumai I still have it on VHS, DVD and Blu Ray. What I saw looked excellent and loved every minute of it. But I can totally understand how some would feel and that it would take away from it’s original vibe. I just think it’s cool to experience it in a different light and if need be I can always go back to other formats to appreciate it in different aspects.

  • @kadenprows8079
    @kadenprows8079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This has got to be THE WORST 4K transfer ever done. A downgrade from the blu-ray in practically every way. So sad.

  • @action1392
    @action1392 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ну и параша с HDR!!! Когда перестанут портить шедевры этими игрушками со светом, цветом, 8к.....только портят исходники

  • @sasha_thewhite
    @sasha_thewhite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, I'm a little confused. You're comparing 4k to regular blu-ray or 4k mastered blu-ray. How did you get the Skynet Edition 4k? It does not exist, it is not necessary to deceive people. The Skynet edition has a different color correction.

  • @mexdrago3009
    @mexdrago3009 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still bought it because it was cheap. My dad lost the good version. It's not horrible, but the wax is there, and it is not warm. Cameron must have hated film grain. Feels a little wrong seeing sprites without grain. I got used to the color. All in all, I would buy a remaster, but Im not hating it either. lol

  • @RhysClark97
    @RhysClark97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    skynet edition for sure, its like the 4k version is trying to replicate the blue tint from the first film instead of letting the original lighting do its job

    • @MrCarpen7er
      @MrCarpen7er 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Skynet edition has the blue tint. And there's no blue tint in The Terminator. What the hell are you talking about?!

    • @RhysClark97
      @RhysClark97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrCarpen7er i mean i know what i watched and what movies i have seen so whatever dude, always gotta be one contrarian with a badly calibrated tv telling me im wrong.

    • @MrCarpen7er
      @MrCarpen7er 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RhysClark97 You don't know shit.

    • @RhysClark97
      @RhysClark97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrCarpen7er im sure you like to think that, that new 4k transfer is not good imo.

  • @lorenzoamer8456
    @lorenzoamer8456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone. Skynet edition or 2015 transfer? Which is better?

    • @lookitskazzy
      @lookitskazzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      2015. Every version after that has shitty color regrading by crackhead Jim and way too much DNR. The 4K version is especially awful.

  • @yadsar
    @yadsar ปีที่แล้ว

    They weren't kidding when they said that the 4k version looks like shit. It really does.

  • @Cyberdynepunk
    @Cyberdynepunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skynet edition blows the 4K out of the f###### water

  • @markpiche3100
    @markpiche3100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the Skynet Edition the special edition of blu ray version?

    • @ultragamingcom
      @ultragamingcom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      skyneyt is 2009 version old codec, 2015 is the improved normal bluray new codec,2017 is remastered dnr version.best out of three is 2015 version

  • @yosoyringodesanantonio8405
    @yosoyringodesanantonio8405 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stick with the HD Blu-Ray!
    The 4K looked bad! It’s been DNR’d To Death!

  • @cosmicfish1000
    @cosmicfish1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those highlights and white-spots from the lighting has been dulled down too much in the 4K version. Looks flat and dull. How can they mess this up?!

  • @samsondelighted
    @samsondelighted 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Each to their own and whatever, but some of you seem to be fooled by brightness.
    The 4k looks painfully washed out and the loss of detail is ranges from weak to terrible. Looks more like an upscale with a bad colour master than an actual 4k transfer

  • @turbinegraphics16
    @turbinegraphics16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4K looks a lot sharper but colours are weird. I don't have the bluray so I think it was worth getting 4k for this.

  • @CDubya.82
    @CDubya.82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every shot becomes what looks to be over exposed / too bright

  • @XenomorphLV426
    @XenomorphLV426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought Lionsgate edition was superior to Skynet due to no DNR?

  • @ninjawacker5442
    @ninjawacker5442 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great comparison, will have to collect this one. Had the 3D blu ray but the 4k looks much better

  • @RaytheonNublinski
    @RaytheonNublinski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should put a warning on the box if they’ve changed color grading. This is getting ridiculous. At least the matrix got fixed.

    • @TheHealthLife
      @TheHealthLife 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have to disagree, they screwed up the 4k matrix..when they are IN the matrix it is supposed to look green. NOW, it is all screwed up with a blue crap tint.

  • @shanelandstrom4469
    @shanelandstrom4469 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn't the fact that if you're not watching this in HDR void what the picture would look like if you WERE watching it in HDR? Does TH-cam even do HDR? I'm watching the 4k version and it doesn't look washed out at all like it does in this video. Seems to me there's a big elephant in the room no one seems to see when it comes to videos like these that compare HDR and standard dynamic range, kinda like if you watched a 1080p video to see the difference between 4k and bluray

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pardon me ???

    • @shanelandstrom4469
      @shanelandstrom4469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mymoonization LOL. I'm just wondering how this is a valid comparison. The bluray is standard dynamic range and the 4k version is HDR. As far as I know TH-cam doesn't display the picture in HDR, so the the 4k HDR10 isn't displaying in HDR10, or am I missing something?

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shanelandstrom4469 Ooooh now I get it Lolllll.......ok h
      ere is how I proceed to have the closest image to that found in a 4K Blu-ray. It’s a long process. First, I have to connect via a cable behind a housing that allows me to have the precise source that it will be indicated by metadata. Capable of rendering the images in real time, which exploits the metadata of the calibration station. We call this Content Mapping Unit - CMU) It's like a box that is plugged behind my Oppo 4K blu-ray and my brand new professional Canon DP-V3120 OLED monitor with MTI Film updates Cortex v5.2. Very important. Then you must also have software that allows you to work with different HDR sources. Like Dolby Vision and recently the HDR10+. Also via a metadata file, an XML file, which contains information about the entire program, and it’s this mastering (mapping). In the beginning it was not an easy part. There is another CMU I have, called CMU offline or CMO, which is not dependent on the resolution, but does not work in real time. We can have a 4K rendering in Rec 709 of an HDR PQ element with the metadata, but not in real time. Because TH-cam is not able to broadcast HDR native sources. For the moment. Therefore I have to go through a gateway that allows a colorimetry just and faithful to that of Blu-Ray UHD on TH-cam. There is another aspect not to be neglected. This is the quantization depth of 12 or 16 bit files and the SMPTE standard for HDR, the Rec 2020, is called 4K of course. Once everything is done, I finish via Final Cut Pro X for the transfer.
      Cheers !

  • @thehound1138
    @thehound1138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does 4k version is extended like skynet edition or it's just a just theatrical one ?

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not theatrical version at all Uzzi !

    • @thehound1138
      @thehound1138 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mymoonization ty :)

  • @Justadrie44
    @Justadrie44 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well I got the 4K and it came with the blue-ray

    • @schwartzy65
      @schwartzy65 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bluray that comes with the 4k is from the same bad new master

  • @RedRanger2001
    @RedRanger2001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blu-ray all the way.
    The 4K is soft.

  • @jackychowYT
    @jackychowYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    why do i think the 4k version looks like a game cutseen

    • @E101ification
      @E101ification 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because they DNRd (digital noise reduction) the hell out of it to remove the film grain. Some people don't realize that natural film grain is actually GOOD and removing it just means removing detail and creating a "waxwork" effect - or, indeed, a videogame effect. The original Blu Ray of Predator was famous for having so much DNR that it looked ridiculous, thankfully the 4K version of that movie didn't make the same mistake.

  • @Raforeus
    @Raforeus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4k Version Looks much better at my 4k hdr beamer then the skynet edt. the vid here is not what youre see on screen belive me. the enhance Colour from the hdr is awesome.

  • @maulcs
    @maulcs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DNR disaster

  • @DIMEDAMAGE
    @DIMEDAMAGE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4k edition suffers from contrast issues affecting image depth.i will stick with my skynet version

  • @Magiktcup
    @Magiktcup 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why do the 4K versions always seem to get brighter? Be interested to watch the whole 4K version but i think the older darker gritter version is probably more suitable.

  • @canaridissident7309
    @canaridissident7309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All this garbage gives me the envy to go back to Laser Disc on an "old screen" TV ! Smaller, yes, but so much natural even if less defined. I am looking to build up a new set up that way.

  • @ethanberry9846
    @ethanberry9846 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Strange that two of the worst looking video transfers f to hit the 4k format are from James Cameron, this and True Lies look dreadful, it's even more annoying for True Lies as we never got a blu ray released, just about every studio has released T2 over the decades lol.

  • @arifeens
    @arifeens ปีที่แล้ว

    They didn’t only ruined the color but also zoomed in slightly. Totally unnecessary degrade by James Cameron. Disappointed.

  • @விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்
    @விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They messed the black levels in 4k version! Just compare Arnold's *BLACK* jacket at 3:13 with 3:21 Its like someone fucking poured acid on his jacket in the 4k version. TERRIBLE, i can't for the love of God understand who makes these terrible remasters!!

  • @nategardner8018
    @nategardner8018 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The 4K sucks. It takes out all the saturation of the sky net release

    • @bened22
      @bened22 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you know? By looking at an 8-bit video on TH-cam? Please ...

    • @mr.b9613
      @mr.b9613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bened22 I know because I own both editions moron, and the 4k one looks vastly inferior even on my 4k HDR Tv.

  • @wetakethetrips6313
    @wetakethetrips6313 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love the DNR. This is best Terminator 2 has looked in a long time.

    • @E101ification
      @E101ification 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You love the reduction of detail and making the characters look like wax figures? You should check out the 1080p Blu Ray release of Predator, you'll love it...
      FYI, film grain is part of the original recording, there's no magical way to remove it and get a clearer image. When you see film that's had DNR what you're seeing is a version of the film where the image has been "smudged" or "blurred" so that the individual grains become almost the same colour, making them invisible. But doing this also removes detail in the image - completely negating the point of a 4K resolution - and in this case has led to some excessive changes to the colour palette to disguise how unnatural the DNR has made the image look.

  • @blaggzear3152
    @blaggzear3152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have instant-bought the 3D Bluray. Love it so much! But this 4K Version - not really. just look at 4:58 - less colors, less details, less depth! What happened! OMG. i am really sad now. :-(
    but there are moments that look amazing! rich of more details, e.g. 5:55

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3D version is my favorite on this film tooooo 👍 !

    • @blaggzear3152
      @blaggzear3152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mymoonization I love to watch the 3D Version on my PS VR in a virtual Mega 3D Screen. It's a very fantastic experience..

    • @joepearson279
      @joepearson279 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If I bought the 3D version is there anyway I could disable some features to only see it in 2D but get the better transfer?

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no T1 in 4K only Remastered version :)

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well Joe if you don't like 3d and turn it off you can still watch it in 2D. But the transfer remains the same as the standard 2D version based on a native 4K scan. but for that it’s better to see it in 4K version directly !!!

  • @zacharylee1995
    @zacharylee1995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The First Two Terminator movies is a Masterpiece, I still haven't Seen Terminator Dark Fate Yet and I blamed my brother For that too 😢

    • @rashidhumine
      @rashidhumine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its probably for the best that you haven't seen it.. have you seen the reviews? people are saying its the worst Terminator movie of all time.

    • @zacharylee1995
      @zacharylee1995 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rashidhumine I'm am not going to bother seeing the reviews Mainly because I don't want to here Spoilers

    • @ReesesCupsAreGood
      @ReesesCupsAreGood 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The first 2 minutes destroys the whole franchise. No....seriously. they royally screwed up.

    • @Highbudget
      @Highbudget 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t ever watch it, I wish I never did

  • @phydicollscormain
    @phydicollscormain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While both transfers gets butchered by DNR, I rather go for the Skynet Edition to keep the colors I used to seen since the VHS times. I cannot trust how James Cameron approves this shitty transfer which ended up not trusting his future remasters (as he will butcher Aliens, The Abyss and True Lies next). How does he manage to screw up the transfer in the first place!?

  • @Ballowax
    @Ballowax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you look at all dat noise reduction

  • @tommey549
    @tommey549 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is not a Skynet Edition!!! You compare UHD 4k with remastered Blu Ray. Skynet edition has a completely different color palette.

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or maybe then your TV calibration is different 😉 !

    • @alexander_helmut
      @alexander_helmut 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mymoonization so is it the remastered version or the old one?

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Skynet transfer used in this edition is close to the Studio Canal print on the HD DVD version and an examination of the two yields some tweaking.

    • @alexander_helmut
      @alexander_helmut 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mymoonization so it is the old one

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes !

  • @SB992REBORN
    @SB992REBORN 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing is, guys, is that the 4K resolution looks/worked perfectly in theaters on the big screen, yet the look of the revamped resolution on home video just doesn't mesh well on a regular screen television, hence why in MY opinion, the 2015 release works for bluray while the 4K transfer was best for cinemas.... just saying, my opinion.

    • @schwartzy65
      @schwartzy65 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It not about the resolutio... Full hd and 4k looks very good in home setups like try should, problem is the dnr and new color scheme

  • @Vadergiggs
    @Vadergiggs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Skynet blu ray isn't 4K like the title says...right?

  • @winterbalm
    @winterbalm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so we have to buy several blurays of our favorite movies now 😂
    since every version is unique
    and the digital copies since they could be different too

    • @tbonetnt33456
      @tbonetnt33456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn’t that what collectors do anyway?

  • @Kthomasritchie
    @Kthomasritchie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm officially heartbroken.

  • @ThreechTHEdruid
    @ThreechTHEdruid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank god got skynet edt But just had to TaKe this to colection clearance bin 5euros

  • @simongilmore5618
    @simongilmore5618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We will never see a solid 4k of T2

  • @mykchek7
    @mykchek7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They both look hideous. With all the updated tek we got to make this CGI dream a Masterpiece they choose to milk us forever with bad transfers like Enter the Dragon and other titles. I would like to know where the best version of 4k of this is.. There's at least 10 different ones now

  • @formeitwastuesday.1515
    @formeitwastuesday.1515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, man. Total loss. Definition was terminated.

  • @6LOBO6
    @6LOBO6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Share the score man, Brad Fiedel's full score hasn't been released yet and doesn't have for when.

  • @djjuckah7117
    @djjuckah7117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The scenes or parts of the scenes screens that looks worse with HDR version has been solved whit the HDR10+ technology morons, HDR is by far the most incredible technology that came out since FULLHD, not only the color has been improved but the definition and other things by far. Stop talking nonsenses.

  • @tomvier9597
    @tomvier9597 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like they brightened it to compensate for dimmer polarized 3D.

  • @hzubovi1
    @hzubovi1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad job with the colour grade there. Really again. Why do people keep doing this

  • @markbennett4617
    @markbennett4617 ปีที่แล้ว

    when i see DNR ... I now know why your cry

  • @smithwesson1896
    @smithwesson1896 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skynet has all the deleted scenes?

  • @gustavofigueroa2.030
    @gustavofigueroa2.030 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TERMINATOR 2 JUDGMENT DAY ON ULTRA HD BLU-RAY+BLU-RAY HD+DIGITAL HD

  • @Alpa_Chino
    @Alpa_Chino 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    which version of T2 is the one they corrected all visible errors in the original version, like: missing warning plate on the back of the truck when T800 arrives, replacing Arnolds stunt face in the scene of jumping off the storm channel on a motorcycle, head of the second driver in a trunk in a scene of escaping from pascadero mental institution?

  • @thepiecesfit5049
    @thepiecesfit5049 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have excused the teal green color grading if it wasn’t for all the DNR. Give me a grainy 4K scan over this any day!

    • @me-sy4um
      @me-sy4um 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I personally think grain adds to the film.

    • @josephvegas3052
      @josephvegas3052 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Screw grain...it hideous abs distracts my viewing. I hate grain...this transfer is awesome!

    • @MATDMixes
      @MATDMixes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@josephvegas3052 You like having all the details removed? Each to their own I guess...