It's impossible to make something everyone wants. Having the LP2 and LP3 is a fair path. I have a 2 and plan to buy a 3 as well and rotate between them. I have a 1 yr old son now and am happy about the camera. Great job guys, thank you for listening to your users.
I'm not a marketing guy, but maybe they could avoid the feeling of the III being better than the II by removing the numerals and giving these devices different names-something that differentiates them without implying a predecessor and successor relationship.
Exactly, i contacted them but they currently have no progress on this. If these 2 where on them i would buy in An instant... Also Europe warehouse would be great... Because the price nearly doubles because of customs and taxes
I think Light having different devices at different levels of being disconnected is what is needed for sure. I like that LPIII has more features and LP2 has less. So you can choose your own adventure kind of haha. Either way these are way better than smartphones.
Wow replaceable usb-c charge port! Another example of how thoughtful this company is. Made for humans who don’t want to live a sci-fi lifestyle. Definitely buying one!!! And LYFT rideshare?! Killer
Really excited about the camera function in this. I saw somewhere that Joe had a Blackmagic camera so I know these guys are going to really dial the camera in on LP3. The fact that it's got an actual shutter button is amazing
Cheers, we do love cameras - our Light III commercial was shot on a SonyA7SIII, our Light Phone II videos were all using the Digital Bolex (a fellow crowdfunded project) and we did use the og blackmagic pocket for all of our original Light Phone videos.
I like how Jose didn't interrupt while they were explaining the intricate details of the product. Most interviewers have a nag of unnecessarily interrupting and spoiling the flow of the speaker.
The only thing I really need is to be able to have my bank app on my phone. That what keeps me from switching to a dumb phone. I'm a truck driver so unpacking my laptop just to check or move money is to inconvenient
I believe 2FA/MFA is pretty important feature for anyone to move to light phone, this is one reason that a lot of folks might still need to carry around a secondary device to just login into platforms on their computers that use MFA/2FA. I hope the light team prioritizes this.
A black and white OLED display is BRILLIANT. I'm surprised it's taken well over a decade for a phone manufacturer to consider utilizing that technology. Could be related to the push for more color, more resolution, etc. but I recognized it as a huge benefit on smaller devices that offered one. Looking forward to the Light Phone III.
I feel sad they leave the E-Ink, it does not feel right.. E-Ink is coming out with new developments and even color on more and more readers and even screens for video now... E-Ink gives a unique atmosphere to write on and read from that Oled cannot... If the camera is a unique and high-end camera, then is a different situation to have an OLED.. but how good is the camera really compared to buying a camera to use for street photography?!
@@JardindeDieu I think the Asian guy is nice but he is 100% the business guy who drives the Lightphone to now become just a new trend product for maximum sales and not for the goals they first set out to support the End-User with mental health support and be free of the stress screens give us in themselves, social media or not on them!
The difficult part for me is simply the price, even with the preorder since im broke 😂, I love the form factor, software, and the freaking rotary encoder!! But I wouldn’t even mind preordering it’s just I want to also see where things go. I already love this phone too much but I just wonder if I’ll ever be able to buy it 😅.
Great video! Pre-ordered today! Will be my first Light Phone. So excited, I've been 5 years with a smartphone and I've been too productive on it to the point of overwhelm. I really appreciate how sincere the creators of this LP are. One of the many reasons I chose this phone over others.
they should really cut to the chase and enable app side loading. there's no way they can integrate the many essential utility apps that people use. they should just let it up to the user to decide what they want on their phone. personally there is a lot of work related apps that i can not work without, and that's just how life is. having two phones is not proper. also wasn't this 399 or am i imagining things? now it's 499
is this screen right? But they got two models.. is it this 60 hz screen you will use for the LP3? th-cam.com/video/4eqsj3X4RaE/w-d-xo.html or the mobile display (5.7~6.7 inch) can reach 120 Hz ? 3.92 inch AMOLED PCAP 1080 X 1240 MIPI Thanks!
I really like the look of the phone, and like the concept. The only issue I have with it is not having email and WhatsApp. I need email for work, and when I travel WhatsApp is my go to messenger. Can we get those as options?
I’m excited for all the potential tools they can bring with the new hardware I love the way they’re implementing the turn dial and camera. I hope they can bring some sort of health tools someday! I bought two apps for Calorie and Weight lifting tracking. I use them to keep track of sugar, sodium and macros and my exercise weights sets and reps and work out volume/intensity. I’m on the fence, I really want to buy the LPIII but I’m not sure I can make it work long term atm because of apps I need for health tracking, and my job. Using an Apple Watch, leaving my iPhone 12 mini at home, and using a LPIII primarily seems too complicated and I need to lean off of the Apple ecosystem more. Right now I think upgrading my GPS Apple Watch SE to a LTE model will work better long term to disconnect for me right now. I love the company’s mission and that they’re willing to support devices 5+ years and have different tiers for being disconnected. I think it would be really cool if Light made another model down the road as a standalone smartwatch/phone. The size screen really helps me be more present, and keep my hands/pockets free when running, kayaking, or weight lifting and not worry about it falling out of my pocket.
I will for sure preorder. I won't get rid of my iPhone but what I plan on doing is to keep my iPhone for banking (that's where I have my 2-factor authentication software).
My biggest thing is I do not want access to the hotspot. Having unlimited unrestricted access to the internet is the exact opposite reason that I want a light phone. I know you can hit a switch to turn the hotspot on and off but I don't want that temptation. I want to be able to disable the hotspot all together and have it be extremely difficult to re enable.
@@JoseBriones That's what I've done for the last several years with my light phone 2. It sucks though to miss out on literally everything else because light phone has an unrestricted hotspot that lets you completely bypass everything your trying to avoid. I have a modem that throttles and blocks a lot at home. With the hotspot I can bypass all of that in an instant and I'm distracted as ever in the never ending void of the internet. Which I thought was the exact opposite of what light phone was about? I pre ordered the light phone 3 because they will apparently have a good fix for this, if not I will sell the phone and stick with the light phone 2. Sure would be a shame though because i really want a light phone 3.
If you want a smartphone, get a smartphone. Why try and turn a “dumb” phone into a smartphone? Defeats the purpose. Calls, text, clock, alarms, timer, calculator and long battery life are all the basics I need. All in my opinion, anyway. I do like e-ink for a display.
It would be nice if Light Phone could cut a deal with a carrier so that the carrier would also offer and sell the Light Phone offering financing plans etc. - US Mobile would be a great choice
You know a feature I miss? The IR blaster from my Note 3. Using your phone as a tv remote was EPIC. Really thinking about getting one of these. But, I'm concerned that the GPS won't be reliable enough for a trucker.
The hardware and aesthetics are top notch, but I wonder if people just want the looks and are not particularly interested in the light software and would be better served just installing android and users modifying it for their own needs
Considering how expensive the phone is, and that it's a minimalist device, I find it odd that they decided to include a finger print sensor and NFC instead of just reducing cost by omitting those things. I'm not suggesting this would make the phone cheap, but it would make it less expensive. Finger print sensors make practical sense on smartphones because they're frequent use items, with people glued to their devices. In my opinion, if you're considering adding a finger print sensor, it may be a smell that you're at odds with the concept of digital detox. I am somewhat biased and don't use finger print sensors. But on that, I do wonder how many Light Phone users were yearning for the Finger Print sensor and / or NFC? I would guess, and perhaps I'm wrong, that most Light Phone users would have preferred a headphone jack instead of both the Finger Print sensor and NFC.
The future of security (2FA) likely will require biometrics, so this will account for that. Pins and passwords won’t be stable for much longer with computing power step changes. Seems thoughtful to include imo
Agree 100 percent. Digital detox doesn’t include tap to pay and biometrics. Basic is better in my opinion. I’m ok with the new display and added camera, I just hope they don’t move too far toward mainstream tech or at least give us the ability to disable them completely.
Great interview. Just my two cents. I really hope they put a lot of thought into the camera tool. I think it is a very cool improvement, but I also think it could work against itself and take away from the “digital detox” people love about the Light Phone II. I would like to see two different functions. 1. The ability to send a picture directly through a message. Meaning directly through the message tool itself. Go to a thread, select camera icon, take photo, send photo. 2. If taking general memory photos with the device, only be able to review them through the dashboard or email at a later time.
This seems pretty nifty, and a potential replacement to my current Palm PVG100 someday... As others have said, 2FA is a requirement for my work, so I hope they implement that. (Honestly, I'm not interested in Spotify since I use mp3s, and not in Lyft, since I cycle use public transit) One nice-to-have is a step counter, to allow folks to break free of their activity trackers and smartwatches, but since they didn't mention it, I'd guess that's not in the cards. As opposed to social media stuff, step counting is one really cool beneficial thing phones have brought to the table. The lack of a wrist strap attachment is also a miss, in my opinion, but not the worst in the world.
I just bought the Light Phone II this year and so I won't be switching anytime soon, but I'm glad they are coming out with this new option. I also have found that I'm more present when I don't have a camera on my phone, but there are also times it would be helpful. I did buy a digital camera, I just am not good at using it haha. I can't get it to focus lol, probably user error. Love the new directory tool. Glad they are not planning on replacing the light phone II, I think that's still the best option for me.
The button/wheel could have multiple uses. click once to activate volume control, click twice to activate brightness and something else when it hasn't been pressed/clicked.
I preordered one, but I wonder if they will also sell screen protectors or phone cases! I will refuse to use the phone until they come out with them! As I drop my phone quite often. Right now I use a leather phone case wallet from Hand and Hide on etsy! Omg its saved my phone and protected it so much! Plus I use it as a wallet. I just hope Hand and Hide can make some too! I like their leather phone cases! I use mine as a mini purse 😅
In Barcelona (Catalonia) we have a lot of restaurants that only have the menu in QR and my iPhone 6 can’t read them, so I have to rely on my wife’s phone.
I feel for the photos, they should make so you can only view them if you have it connected to a laptop or other device if you intend to have them printed, as the other darkside of tech is only ever having memories digitized. Lets print our photos like we used to!!
Today preorder light phone 3...I am early waiting for getting this device...payment app mostly using in India...please develop payment app for light phone 3
It's just my opinion but, it feels like the actual problem of modern "smartphone" is that it has App Store and 3rd party developers/companies want their profits from it. So if Light Phone is support basic functions with distraction free manor, which means it does have Camera and music player but none of those SNS or those apps that consistently trying to remind me they're there, it looks nice. I'm South Korean so I can't buy it I guess but...idk, hope I can have a chance to get it one day.
LPII user here. Can we get some footage of keyboard use / responsiveness? I like my LPII but I find myself avoiding texting back to a problematic degree because of how horrible the response time of the e-ink screen. Interferencewith communication experience is a big problem for a communication device. Im optimistic from the side-swiping footage, but Id like to see texting/typing. Voice to text is ok, but it is no substitute for my personal needs, and misses my intonation, injects bad punctuation, etc. In short, its sometimes useful, but not a sufficient replacement for good text input. Thanks,
I really want a III but I can't afford to pay $400 now for a phone in January. I'll probably wait until my current phone breaks and then get a II or III depending on when.
I love everything about this phone but without Whatsapp it would be irresponsible to switch for me. Without the group chats i would miss basically every friends and family get togethers.
same here with WhatsApp, but I'm still gonna buy and try to use it as my main phone. I'm still gonna keep my iPhone for WhatsApp and my plan is to check it like once a week/check WhatsApp web when I'm on the computer. So I'll still be able to read potential family/friends group chats, just not instantly.
Market opportunity imo. we need more suppliers to support Light with accessories. Making phones is hard enough. I’d take better software and reliability over them spending limited resources on a brown case… (start an online shop and create one)
Thank you Jose, Joe and Kai for your time to make this livestream! I have the Light Phone II and it was so cool to hear more about the company and how you worked to design the next Light Phone. I am considering the switch just for the camera feature and was super glad to hear that it is being designed with your values with the goal to make it a tool not a distraction 👍
Coming back to ask if there is plans for a giveaway for the Light Phone 3. I thought you mentioned it in a previous video that you might do a giveaway in this live so I'm wondering if I missed it or is there plans for one later?
still contemplating on if LP3 will be my first Lightphone or not. LP2 seems neat, but the slow e-ink display, navigation, and lack of other things seems too much for me. i'd love to see them condense down what the LP3 is to them in a video. hearing the possibilities and stuff here are cool, but i really want to know what makes the LP3 the LP3 and makes it different from the LP2 in a more brief way. i currently use a 902KC for the past year and i love it, but the texting is super bad lol so having a LP of some sort would instantly improve that. cant wait to see more followups to this and hopefully a LOT more details before that pre-order deal is up (otherwise I wouldnt buy at $799 tbh).
thanks Joe for this video, initially ordered then cancelled but after watching this video i reordered again as i'd really love to support the company and having it more like all black mode and only colour on photos/camera mode is like having an eink to me anyways which was the pushback for me in the past. looking forward to getting my phone next year and i wont even care if it gets delayed and maybe even my birthday gift to myself instead if it gets pushed to feb.
Yes I think email is important too and I don't really see a difference between an email and a text as far as digital detox is concerned. If this phone had emails, online banking and whatsapp this would be the perfect phone in my opinion.
Yeah I kind of think it's odd because I actively avoid my email on my phone, but sometimes I get an email I'd otherwise miss. It's not like social media where I'm doom scrolling for hours
I hate to be blunt but the idea of customers needing to be “educated” on why $800 for an extremely limited phone is reasonable is icky to me. We understand that you have costs as a business, but so does every business; if you’re selling what’s effectively a nice dumb phone for the same price as a full on iPhone, you’re severely limiting your market to people who have enough money for a second phone, who want to digital detox, and who aren’t willing to buy a regular dumb phone. It’s just not appealing at $800, and I don’t think it’s just sticker shock-it’s common sense from a consumer perspective.
I would make a health app - women’s health calendar trackers, activity like steps, HRV, etc from a smart device - for Light OS if opened up. Agree, Spotify first.
Nowadays many people use the social apps to manage their "phone book". Using data to call, to find people... actually is easier than maintaining a phone book for different platforms or different sim cards. I think that's a simple and low cost to call solution as well.
Idk I don't look at photos for entertainment- and it's often a part of text communication. I only ever open my photos when I'm trying to show someone something, and I'd like to be able to do that
Can't wait, I love everything about this company. I love my Light Phone 2. The only issue I see with this Light Phone 3 is the speaker grill. It will collect dust and dirt and will be incredibly difficult to keep it clean. I had the Razr phone with a similar grill and it ended up looking grubby and impossible to clean.
Cancelled my preorder because I didn't realize you had to sent all your texts and contacts to the phone via their servers. Thats far too much of a privacy violation for me. Really wish they would let you load a contacts file over USB, makes no sense.
@@JoseBriones Is it just a one at a time thing? It would suck to create hundreds of contacts, but thats still better than using a dashboard privacy wise. It's just strange since contact files are fairly standardized. I'm still paying attention to updates so I can potentially change my mind because I love how it looks and the idea of it. Especially if I could develop my own solutions to some things via the SDK.
@@somberrhombus Just to make sure it's clear, there is currently no history (calls/texts) ever shared with the dashboard ever, it's just not possible at all right now. The dashboard is the only mechanism currently for importing batches of contacts or adding optional tools. We're open to alternative methods of side loading but as a small team using the dashboard website was a universal way to support all of our users as with our original Light Phone we had a dedicated desktop app and it was very hard to support every operating system ongoing. The Light Account/dashboard is optional, but you are not able to add tools/import contacts without it currently. We understand that may be a deal breaker - we can certainly refund your pre-order no problem, just email us or reply to your order confirmation. Thanks for watching and considering!
It's impossible to make something everyone wants. Having the LP2 and LP3 is a fair path. I have a 2 and plan to buy a 3 as well and rotate between them. I have a 1 yr old son now and am happy about the camera. Great job guys, thank you for listening to your users.
I'm not a marketing guy, but maybe they could avoid the feeling of the III being better than the II by removing the numerals and giving these devices different names-something that differentiates them without implying a predecessor and successor relationship.
Spotify and WhatsApp would take this from a "cool idea" to a "must-buy" for me.
I agree, im on the fence atm
Exactly, i contacted them but they currently have no progress on this. If these 2 where on them i would buy in An instant... Also Europe warehouse would be great... Because the price nearly doubles because of customs and taxes
+1
Same
I second this! If anything, I would prefer Tidal, as their mission is much more in line with Light Phone, but would not complain if it were Spotify!
Please provide a Spotify tool - thank you 😊
I think Light having different devices at different levels of being disconnected is what is needed for sure. I like that LPIII has more features and LP2 has less. So you can choose your own adventure kind of haha. Either way these are way better than smartphones.
Wow replaceable usb-c charge port! Another example of how thoughtful this company is. Made for humans who don’t want to live a sci-fi lifestyle. Definitely buying one!!!
And LYFT rideshare?! Killer
Really excited about the camera function in this. I saw somewhere that Joe had a Blackmagic camera so I know these guys are going to really dial the camera in on LP3. The fact that it's got an actual shutter button is amazing
Cheers, we do love cameras - our Light III commercial was shot on a SonyA7SIII, our Light Phone II videos were all using the Digital Bolex (a fellow crowdfunded project) and we did use the og blackmagic pocket for all of our original Light Phone videos.
I like how Jose didn't interrupt while they were explaining the intricate details of the product. Most interviewers have a nag of unnecessarily interrupting and spoiling the flow of the speaker.
Just doing my part :)
The only thing I really need is to be able to have my bank app on my phone. That what keeps me from switching to a dumb phone. I'm a truck driver so unpacking my laptop just to check or move money is to inconvenient
I believe 2FA/MFA is pretty important feature for anyone to move to light phone, this is one reason that a lot of folks might still need to carry around a secondary device to just login into platforms on their computers that use MFA/2FA. I hope the light team prioritizes this.
hearing that there’s someone on the spotify team who rocks a light phone 2 is so great lol
Yes - give us Spotify on Light Phones - NOW FOLKS
A simple music solution like Spotify would be amazing. At least letting us have offline playlists from them if they don't want infinite streaming.
Spotify and WhatsApp & im sold.
I love then idea of this phone. However, my family is spread over 5 countries, so wattsapp for me is 100%.
A black and white OLED display is BRILLIANT. I'm surprised it's taken well over a decade for a phone manufacturer to consider utilizing that technology. Could be related to the push for more color, more resolution, etc. but I recognized it as a huge benefit on smaller devices that offered one. Looking forward to the Light Phone III.
Please provide a Signal tool - thanks dudes
I feel sad they leave the E-Ink, it does not feel right.. E-Ink is coming out with new developments and even color on more and more readers and even screens for video now... E-Ink gives a unique atmosphere to write on and read from that Oled cannot...
If the camera is a unique and high-end camera, then is a different situation to have an OLED.. but how good is the camera really compared to buying a camera to use for street photography?!
I see this as a compromise on the company's principles and hope it stops at III.
@@JardindeDieu I think the Asian guy is nice but he is 100% the business guy who drives the Lightphone to now become just a new trend product for maximum sales and not for the goals they first set out to support the End-User with mental health support and be free of the stress screens give us in themselves, social media or not on them!
I wish someone asked about latest bluetooth (V5.4) I really hope it supports it.
I love my light phone! love you guys. It has changed so much for me.
What has it changed for you - please share some actual examples with us - thanks
If LP3 can support Signal, then I'm sold! Also 2FA. Because Okta, what my company uses, is the one huge reason I still need Android.
The difficult part for me is simply the price, even with the preorder since im broke 😂, I love the form factor, software, and the freaking rotary encoder!! But I wouldn’t even mind preordering it’s just I want to also see where things go. I already love this phone too much but I just wonder if I’ll ever be able to buy it 😅.
I always walk and listen to the Bible app on my phone, I am hoping there is a podcast I can listen to with the lightphone 3
I think the Bible in a Year podcast is available, but not entirely sure
Depending on the version you prefer, there is podcast called Listen to God’s Word using the Berean Standard version, that may be a blessing as well.
the Bema podcast with Marty Solomon is great!
2FA, RCS, Signal, NFC, music player, USB C and a solid camera; then I'm in.
Great video! Pre-ordered today! Will be my first Light Phone. So excited, I've been 5 years with a smartphone and I've been too productive on it to the point of overwhelm. I really appreciate how sincere the creators of this LP are. One of the many reasons I chose this phone over others.
they should really cut to the chase and enable app side loading. there's no way they can integrate the many essential utility apps that people use. they should just let it up to the user to decide what they want on their phone. personally there is a lot of work related apps that i can not work without, and that's just how life is. having two phones is not proper. also wasn't this 399 or am i imagining things? now it's 499
Sideloading would be nice
Would love a uk banking app! Any one I will switch to that bank, it's the one thing that makes me pick up my Pixel instead of my LP2
is this screen right?
But they got two models..
is it this 60 hz screen you will use for the LP3?
th-cam.com/video/4eqsj3X4RaE/w-d-xo.html
or the mobile display (5.7~6.7 inch) can reach 120 Hz ?
3.92 inch AMOLED PCAP 1080 X 1240 MIPI
Thanks!
I also just pre-ordered it. I am glad that more than 22000 orders have already been received.
does it support offline radio?
We don't know yet.
I really like the look of the phone, and like the concept. The only issue I have with it is not having email and WhatsApp. I need email for work, and when I travel WhatsApp is my go to messenger. Can we get those as options?
Those won’t come anytime soon.
@@JoseBriones does it mean are future tools? I would buy if that’s the case. Light phone seems to be well supported.
I’m excited for all the potential tools they can bring with the new hardware I love the way they’re implementing the turn dial and camera. I hope they can bring some sort of health tools someday! I bought two apps for Calorie and Weight lifting tracking. I use them to keep track of sugar, sodium and macros and my exercise weights sets and reps and work out volume/intensity.
I’m on the fence, I really want to buy the LPIII but I’m not sure I can make it work long term atm because of apps I need for health tracking, and my job. Using an Apple Watch, leaving my iPhone 12 mini at home, and using a LPIII primarily seems too complicated and I need to lean off of the Apple ecosystem more.
Right now I think upgrading my GPS Apple Watch SE to a LTE model will work better long term to disconnect for me right now. I love the company’s mission and that they’re willing to support devices 5+ years and have different tiers for being disconnected. I think it would be really cool if Light made another model down the road as a standalone smartwatch/phone. The size screen really helps me be more present, and keep my hands/pockets free when running, kayaking, or weight lifting and not worry about it falling out of my pocket.
I will for sure preorder. I won't get rid of my iPhone but what I plan on doing is to keep my iPhone for banking (that's where I have my 2-factor authentication software).
Will the lp3 be able to receive photos via sms?
Yes
My biggest thing is I do not want access to the hotspot. Having unlimited unrestricted access to the internet is the exact opposite reason that I want a light phone. I know you can hit a switch to turn the hotspot on and off but I don't want that temptation. I want to be able to disable the hotspot all together and have it be extremely difficult to re enable.
Get a plan without data
@@JoseBriones That's what I've done for the last several years with my light phone 2. It sucks though to miss out on literally everything else because light phone has an unrestricted hotspot that lets you completely bypass everything your trying to avoid. I have a modem that throttles and blocks a lot at home. With the hotspot I can bypass all of that in an instant and I'm distracted as ever in the never ending void of the internet. Which I thought was the exact opposite of what light phone was about? I pre ordered the light phone 3 because they will apparently have a good fix for this, if not I will sell the phone and stick with the light phone 2. Sure would be a shame though because i really want a light phone 3.
If you want a smartphone, get a smartphone. Why try and turn a “dumb” phone into a smartphone? Defeats the purpose. Calls, text, clock, alarms, timer, calculator and long battery life are all the basics I need. All in my opinion, anyway. I do like e-ink for a display.
It would be nice if Light Phone could cut a deal with a carrier so that the carrier would also offer and sell the Light Phone offering financing plans etc. - US Mobile would be a great choice
We'd be open to for sure. We do have some financing options as well using Affirm/ShopPay at our checkout currently as well
The 13 minute mark insights on supply costs makes me think supplies are simply too high. What a mess for any company, especially one starting out.
awesome!!
I really love their openess and transparency regarding the development and costs. I am really leaning towards ordering this phone.
Pre-booked my LP3 and eagerly waiting to try my hands on the Social Media Detox Device! 😊
You know a feature I miss?
The IR blaster from my Note 3. Using your phone as a tv remote was EPIC.
Really thinking about getting one of these. But, I'm concerned that the GPS won't be reliable enough for a trucker.
This is going to be awesome! An "analog" multitool, like the old stuff. Durable.
The hardware and aesthetics are top notch, but I wonder if people just want the looks and are not particularly interested in the light software and would be better served just installing android and users modifying it for their own needs
Be nice if Light would integrate T-Mobile digits app in tools. Having multiple phones with different numbers is not really feasible for many of us.
Signal app would make this a must buy for me.
I really would like to see it compatible with more countries in South & Central America and an Arabic & Spanish keyboard.
Not sure I can wait for the LP3 but I can't stand another day on my smartphone lol
I really like these guys. They seem to be enthusiastic about their product, and not really businessmen..
Maybe they addressed this and I missed it, but how about water and dust resistance?
For anyone else wondering, I found it on their website. It's got an IP54 rating.
Considering how expensive the phone is, and that it's a minimalist device, I find it odd that they decided to include a finger print sensor and NFC instead of just reducing cost by omitting those things. I'm not suggesting this would make the phone cheap, but it would make it less expensive.
Finger print sensors make practical sense on smartphones because they're frequent use items, with people glued to their devices. In my opinion, if you're considering adding a finger print sensor, it may be a smell that you're at odds with the concept of digital detox. I am somewhat biased and don't use finger print sensors. But on that, I do wonder how many Light Phone users were yearning for the Finger Print sensor and / or NFC? I would guess, and perhaps I'm wrong, that most Light Phone users would have preferred a headphone jack instead of both the Finger Print sensor and NFC.
Excellent point - NFC and Fingerprint sensor should be dumped
I like the nfc as I have been using it on my iPhone. I also like the sensor. I have preordered it.
The future of security (2FA) likely will require biometrics, so this will account for that. Pins and passwords won’t be stable for much longer with computing power step changes. Seems thoughtful to include imo
Agree 100 percent. Digital detox doesn’t include tap to pay and biometrics. Basic is better in my opinion. I’m ok with the new display and added camera, I just hope they don’t move too far toward mainstream tech or at least give us the ability to disable them completely.
I personally fail to see how Fingerprint unlock and NFC are going to significantly (if at all) contribute to any issues with digital detox.
Great interview. Just my two cents. I really hope they put a lot of thought into the camera tool.
I think it is a very cool improvement, but I also think it could work against itself and take away from the “digital detox” people love about the Light Phone II. I would like to see two different functions.
1. The ability to send a picture directly through a message. Meaning directly through the message tool itself. Go to a thread, select camera icon, take photo, send photo.
2. If taking general memory photos with the device, only be able to review them through the dashboard or email at a later time.
Please do the certification dance and make RCS happen
This seems pretty nifty, and a potential replacement to my current Palm PVG100 someday...
As others have said, 2FA is a requirement for my work, so I hope they implement that. (Honestly, I'm not interested in Spotify since I use mp3s, and not in Lyft, since I cycle use public transit)
One nice-to-have is a step counter, to allow folks to break free of their activity trackers and smartwatches, but since they didn't mention it, I'd guess that's not in the cards. As opposed to social media stuff, step counting is one really cool beneficial thing phones have brought to the table. The lack of a wrist strap attachment is also a miss, in my opinion, but not the worst in the world.
You guys have a lot to figure out in the next months, so it seems...
It needs Whatsapp, without it is useless
Please no QR code scanning - QR codes are a BIG security risk
How? The device has no browser. Can you explain?
I just bought the Light Phone II this year and so I won't be switching anytime soon, but I'm glad they are coming out with this new option. I also have found that I'm more present when I don't have a camera on my phone, but there are also times it would be helpful. I did buy a digital camera, I just am not good at using it haha. I can't get it to focus lol, probably user error. Love the new directory tool. Glad they are not planning on replacing the light phone II, I think that's still the best option for me.
The button/wheel could have multiple uses. click once to activate volume control, click twice to activate brightness and something else when it hasn't been pressed/clicked.
Was there a confirmation on the potential radio module?
Not yet
It is so awesome to hear how they are processing all these ideas for it, it kinda makes it like an adventure.
I preordered one, but I wonder if they will also sell screen protectors or phone cases! I will refuse to use the phone until they come out with them! As I drop my phone quite often. Right now I use a leather phone case wallet from Hand and Hide on etsy! Omg its saved my phone and protected it so much! Plus I use it as a wallet. I just hope Hand and Hide can make some too! I like their leather phone cases! I use mine as a mini purse 😅
In Barcelona (Catalonia) we have a lot of restaurants that only have the menu in QR and my iPhone 6 can’t read them, so I have to rely on my wife’s phone.
I feel for the photos, they should make so you can only view them if you have it connected to a laptop or other device if you intend to have them printed, as the other darkside of tech is only ever having memories digitized. Lets print our photos like we used to!!
Pre-ordered yesterday!
Today preorder light phone 3...I am early waiting for getting this device...payment app mostly using in India...please develop payment app for light phone 3
QR and bar code tool would free me from carrying cards to the gym
It's just my opinion but, it feels like the actual problem of modern "smartphone" is that it has App Store and 3rd party developers/companies want their profits from it. So if Light Phone is support basic functions with distraction free manor, which means it does have Camera and music player but none of those SNS or those apps that consistently trying to remind me they're there, it looks nice. I'm South Korean so I can't buy it I guess but...idk, hope I can have a chance to get it one day.
The LP3 will work in South Korea
LPII user here. Can we get some footage of keyboard use / responsiveness?
I like my LPII but I find myself avoiding texting back to a problematic degree because of how horrible the response time of the e-ink screen. Interferencewith communication experience is a big problem for a communication device. Im optimistic from the side-swiping footage, but Id like to see texting/typing.
Voice to text is ok, but it is no substitute for my personal needs, and misses my intonation, injects bad punctuation, etc. In short, its sometimes useful, but not a sufficient replacement for good text input.
Thanks,
Check the timestamp that says mini demo. Kai showcases the speed there.
Please add microsoft authenticator
It is huuuge. I'm quite happy with Jelly Star and Olauncher.
Would love to see a USA American made Light Phone - please
and because it’s American made it comes with broken text input, AI assistant and non repairable!
I really want a III but I can't afford to pay $400 now for a phone in January. I'll probably wait until my current phone breaks and then get a II or III depending on when.
Keep in mind it’s going to go up to $800 pretty soon… it’s a pretty giant price tag long term.
What a stressful job. Truly a passion project
Just ordered mine. Thanks Jose.
We need Uber or Lyft app
Lyft may be coming.
@@JoseBriones Once it does I’m all in. Thank you!
Spotify can be addictive
Would this work with call forwarding to my watch? This isn't a possibility with the hardware of the LP 2.
Not sure, great topic though
I like how to know if the side loading apps would be easier on the Light Phone 3.
I love everything about this phone but without Whatsapp it would be irresponsible to switch for me. Without the group chats i would miss basically every friends and family get togethers.
same here with WhatsApp, but I'm still gonna buy and try to use it as my main phone. I'm still gonna keep my iPhone for WhatsApp and my plan is to check it like once a week/check WhatsApp web when I'm on the computer. So I'll still be able to read potential family/friends group chats, just not instantly.
I wish this works with Google fi
I wish this works with google fi
also a light brown leather case would look so good with the black industrial vibe of the LPIII
Leather is not environmentally responsible or vegan - maybe a faux leather
Market opportunity imo. we need more suppliers to support Light with accessories. Making phones is hard enough. I’d take better software and reliability over them spending limited resources on a brown case… (start an online shop and create one)
@hdtravel1 the fact it annoys the Vegans makes it even better
I’m gonna wait for the Daylight Phone.
Rumor is a Daylight phone is coming - using the same patented display technology as the tablet - should be cool
@@hdtravel1 yup. Can’t wait either!
I expect that if it even launches, it will just sport a stock Android experience. That is a different approach than from LP.
What’s the Daylight phone gonna be like? How do you know about it
@@almog3875 The founder of the company has talked about making a laptop and a phone with the same screen technology as the tablet. Should be cool.
Thank you Jose, Joe and Kai for your time to make this livestream! I have the Light Phone II and it was so cool to hear more about the company and how you worked to design the next Light Phone. I am considering the switch just for the camera feature and was super glad to hear that it is being designed with your values with the goal to make it a tool not a distraction 👍
Coming back to ask if there is plans for a giveaway for the Light Phone 3. I thought you mentioned it in a previous video that you might do a giveaway in this live so I'm wondering if I missed it or is there plans for one later?
Please add spotify
still contemplating on if LP3 will be my first Lightphone or not. LP2 seems neat, but the slow e-ink display, navigation, and lack of other things seems too much for me. i'd love to see them condense down what the LP3 is to them in a video. hearing the possibilities and stuff here are cool, but i really want to know what makes the LP3 the LP3 and makes it different from the LP2 in a more brief way. i currently use a 902KC for the past year and i love it, but the texting is super bad lol so having a LP of some sort would instantly improve that. cant wait to see more followups to this and hopefully a LOT more details before that pre-order deal is up (otherwise I wouldnt buy at $799 tbh).
It would be nice to see a comparison video between the 2 and 3 😮
Ya lo reservé! También tú lo reservaste?
Reservado!
thanks Joe for this video, initially ordered then cancelled but after watching this video i reordered again as i'd really love to support the company and having it more like all black mode and only colour on photos/camera mode is like having an eink to me anyways which was the pushback for me in the past. looking forward to getting my phone next year and i wont even care if it gets delayed and maybe even my birthday gift to myself instead if it gets pushed to feb.
Guess I’m in the minority who thinks email on a phone is important. I’m not looking for a distraction just utility.
Yeah. It can be done on a schedule on a laptop. I understand why many would want it, but it's best to detach from it in my opinion.
Yes I think email is important too and I don't really see a difference between an email and a text as far as digital detox is concerned. If this phone had emails, online banking and whatsapp this would be the perfect phone in my opinion.
If it had these functions I feel like it would stop the need for a second device ie an Ipad or laptop which would enhance the digital detox...
Yeah I kind of think it's odd because I actively avoid my email on my phone, but sometimes I get an email I'd otherwise miss. It's not like social media where I'm doom scrolling for hours
I hate to be blunt but the idea of customers needing to be “educated” on why $800 for an extremely limited phone is reasonable is icky to me. We understand that you have costs as a business, but so does every business; if you’re selling what’s effectively a nice dumb phone for the same price as a full on iPhone, you’re severely limiting your market to people who have enough money for a second phone, who want to digital detox, and who aren’t willing to buy a regular dumb phone. It’s just not appealing at $800, and I don’t think it’s just sticker shock-it’s common sense from a consumer perspective.
I would make a health app - women’s health calendar trackers, activity like steps, HRV, etc from a smart device - for Light OS if opened up. Agree, Spotify first.
Nowadays many people use the social apps to manage their "phone book". Using data to call, to find people... actually is easier than maintaining a phone book for different platforms or different sim cards. I think that's a simple and low cost to call solution as well.
Please dont allow us to view the photos on the device!!!
Leave it as just a super useful tool, dont let us entertain ourselfs with it!
Idk I don't look at photos for entertainment- and it's often a part of text communication. I only ever open my photos when I'm trying to show someone something, and I'd like to be able to do that
Solution to most stuff is ditching their OS, go with android and lock theme & features with their custom UI.
Please offer this in different colors - I never buy black electronics devices
Can't wait, I love everything about this company. I love my Light Phone 2. The only issue I see with this Light Phone 3 is the speaker grill. It will collect dust and dirt and will be incredibly difficult to keep it clean. I had the Razr phone with a similar grill and it ended up looking grubby and impossible to clean.
That’s gotta be a serious concern. Maybe could use keyboard duster?
unfortunately without Spotify I cannot jump on this :(
I totally agree with you buddy - gotta have Spotify
@@hdtravel1not when they are raising the price and set on increasing the price to 15 by 2025.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it launches with Spotify. They literally just talked about how they’ve been working on it and it’s one of the most requested
that was my first thoughts but honestly, I bought an iPod classic for me and now I have all my music playlists from Spotify on it🥳
Will Audible be an available feature!? On the II or III?
No. Use Open Audible as an alternative to download your audible books to mp3. Then, use the music tool or podcast tool to play them.
Will there ever be a weather app included?
Maybe. But for now it only has the features that the Light Phone 2 has
Cancelled my preorder because I didn't realize you had to sent all your texts and contacts to the phone via their servers. Thats far too much of a privacy violation for me. Really wish they would let you load a contacts file over USB, makes no sense.
You don't have to use the dashboard if you don't want to. The phone is able to input contacts manually if you don't want to use the sync features.
@@JoseBriones Is it just a one at a time thing? It would suck to create hundreds of contacts, but thats still better than using a dashboard privacy wise. It's just strange since contact files are fairly standardized. I'm still paying attention to updates so I can potentially change my mind because I love how it looks and the idea of it. Especially if I could develop my own solutions to some things via the SDK.
@@somberrhombus Just to make sure it's clear, there is currently no history (calls/texts) ever shared with the dashboard ever, it's just not possible at all right now. The dashboard is the only mechanism currently for importing batches of contacts or adding optional tools. We're open to alternative methods of side loading but as a small team using the dashboard website was a universal way to support all of our users as with our original Light Phone we had a dedicated desktop app and it was very hard to support every operating system ongoing. The Light Account/dashboard is optional, but you are not able to add tools/import contacts without it currently. We understand that may be a deal breaker - we can certainly refund your pre-order no problem, just email us or reply to your order confirmation. Thanks for watching and considering!
@@thelightphoneIII thanks for the clarifications and response!
Excellent point buddy - something to consider - any cloud services do present a security risk to the user
I'm really surprised no one is asking for an E-reader option. Kindle is all this thing is missing.
I'm so confused. Who is this for? People that have no self control?
People that want a simple life.
please give me that...hehehe
Give you what buddy ??