The most interesting matchups for me are Todo vs Nanami and Hanami vs Mahito. For the latter, I went with Mahito since Hanami never displayed her domain. As for Todo vs Nanami, it's a coin toss IMO. However, if you give Playful Cloud to Todo, he should have an overwhelming advantage. The boost it gives to its wielder is insane.
1)Assuming that Toji(full arsenal) and 3f Sukuna are somehow relative, who'd win in a actual fight? 2)The next matchup is Toji vs Jogo. I often see people compare those 3 so i need your opinion
1) It's not an assumption. It's stated twice that they are rivals in speed. People just cope that Megumi is dumb because... Reasons. It'd favor sukuna due to his open domain and sure hit not needing a target with CE. 2) Jogo is stronger, but Toji has counters for pretty much everything he has. Toji likely wins mid diff due to compatibility.
Hmm. Panda vs Maki is a interesting one.Can Maki take all three of Pandas lives?Panda,in gorilla Mode,was able to punch Geto and evade some of his punches,this alone for me a bigger feat than what maki has ever done in S1. Yuji vs megumi is also a dilemma for me.Lets exclude Makora as we haven't seen it in S1(though he tried to summon it),still his incomplete domain might cause a problem for İtadori.Multiple nues,totality wolf,shadow clones etc.He can't destroy the domain as finger bearer did either.Yuji also haven't seen megumis domain,so there is a element of surprise. For me it's %50 %50 and we lack enough data to compare them.İtadori also went aganist much stronger opponents,so there is that. I agree about Todo>Nanamin and Mahito>Hanami. Sukuna vs Jogo is also questionable.Gojo said he "might" be able to stronger current sukuna.Yet there were things gojo didn't know about sukuna.Such as sukunas domain being a open one,this changes a lot as we have seen in satoru vs sukuna. Jogo probably had more CE but that's it. In general a good list,better then most in the internet.
Panda using Gorilla Mode on Geto is anime only, and either way, Mechamaru, who is semi grade 1, had enough firepower and durability to compete with a much experienced and arguably stronger Gorilla mode Panda. Maki was able to react to sneak attack from Hanami and hits harder than Itadori Post Todo training. I agree. Megumi vs Itadori could go either way. The average sorcerer knows about Dismantle + Cleave + Flames. Those parts of Sukuna's CTs are public knowledge at the time, and he is also regarded as the strongest sorcerer that ever lived. On the other hand, Gojo hand't even seen Jogo use his CT. Just appear out of nowhere and start talking. If anything, Gojo knew more about Sukuna than he did Jogo.
@@guesswho8556 Fair enough for Panda vs Maki. Satoru has the Six eyes. So he can easily tell ones CT just by looking.Both the way it works and the strength of it. So,he knew Jogos both CT and CE.Also his speed. Second one is that,which i have already said,he doesn't know about sukunas open domain and we know it matters.Winning the domain battle is a decisive factor for the victory in general. Sure it doesn't necessarily mean sukuna would win the domain battle.Saying Jogo>Sukuna is just as alright for me. I just think that there are some arguments for the opposite side too.Thats why i find it questionable
good top, in my opinion Hanami and Mahito could be interchangeable, but I don't give it much thought either. Random question that arose from a debate I saw a few days ago and I wanted to know what you thought in particular. Mahoraga vs Deku from the manga, who do you think will win?
Deku punches really hard I think. Weakened All Might could cause the weather to change with a single punch. Forgot how strong that feat actually is but it should be stronger than Red (which can one shot Mahogara) imo. Deku can also tank those blows, so as long as mahogara isn't waaaay faster than him, deku should win mid diff.
Solely based of season 1 feats I would have hanami over MAHITO and jogo due to some statements and I would have hanami and jogo above sukuna 3F but MAHITO below sukuna 3F
Inverted spear of heaven and soul split katana are good counters for Rika and cursed spirit manipulation, so if speed is equalized he might have an edge. Overall, I think geto and yuta clear. Kenjaku could react multiple times to piercing blood at point Blanc range which is likely a hypersonic feat. Toji on the other hand is like mach 3? Dagon and Megumi could react to him. They also clap in the power department
@@guesswho8556So basically Toji falls far behind in terms of power, but can go toe to toe with special grade sorcerers due to the versatility. Maki doesn't have the ISOH though, that's a big disadvantage for her. Aside from CT, can it negate the DE and CE as well?
@@guesswho8556 Genuinely, how? Naobito was only second to Gojo in speed, which should well include both Yuta/Geto. Yet Toji can deal with him. I don't really think the speed alone would make that much of a difference
@@imranabdirafikov3847 we don't know that toji is comparable to Naobito in speed. Maki couldn't see human naoya move once he reached max speed and she still defeated him by figuring out his CT and anticipating his trajectory by faking an opening. Toji could be way slower than yuta and still beat Naobito just because he can use the right strategy.
That's assuming sukuna can break cast it and break jogo's barrier before he gets one shotted. He didn't destroy unlimited void instantly in the manga either.
@@guesswho8556 thats mainly because Gojo has by far the most refined and likely the strongest domain in the whole series. As for speed if he can keep up with Mahoraga (he says Mahoraga might've beaten me not you wouldve neg diffed me) he should have no problems with keeping up with Jogo
@@muratticugaratti1571 refinement doesn't determine how vulnerable a domain is to attacks from the outside. That is determine by how hard it is to exit the domain.
mmm no? Nanami can match Itadori's Black Flash spam, and with Overtime he is considerably stronger than him. Collapse also caused a Magnitude 2 Earthquake during the fight against Mahito. Hanami would just get one tapped by Mahito's domain, and as far as we know, she can't harm Mahito. 3 finger sukuna above jogo? Gojo said Jogo was stronger.
@@guesswho8556 1:"considerably stronger" isn't the difference between 80% and 120%. Also yuji scales to hanami in speed who's not only kept up with jogo during their fight with gojo(who he had no reason to hold his speed back during btw, as gojo was already statue blitzes faster than both of them), but is also confirmed to be only technically "weaker" than jogo because of elemental disadvantage. Jogo perception blitzed nanami . 2:was referring to stats, forgot mahito had that soul immunity. Going by that logic mahito should be above jogo also though, as jogo cannot kill mahito(domains just make it so your attacks always hit btw, not disable techniques as shown during the entirety of gojo vs sukuna and explained numerous times.) 3:gojo not only said probably, but also has quite literally ZERO knowledge on 3 finger sukuna other than potential word of mouth of megumi who got perception blitzed by him while casual, post domain, and heartless. Sukuna also considers losing to mahoraga as heartless, post domain, and 3 fingers as merely a possibility instead of 100%. And mahoraga shitstomps jogo unless you want me to explain such also.
@@NO-zb3fz 1. Yes. Considerably stronger. Nanami punches as hard as FULL POWER Shibuya Arc Itadori. Add to that his Ratio technique, which can harm people stronger than Nanami himself, or Collapse, which caused a magnitude 2 earthquake and season 1 itadori gets likely killed in one or 2 blows. Gege never said that Hanami was "only" weaker than Jogo due to elemental disadvantage. He even said that Kenjaku would struggle against Mahito/Jogo but not Hanami. J Jogo only blitzed a weakened Nanami that was weaker than Megumi with his burned out CT at the time. 2. Jogo is way faster than Mahito and can simply overpower him with his more refined and powerful domain. 3. Megumi didn't get perception blitzed. Nue literally reacted to and blocked an attack from behind from sukuna. Gojo also fought 1 finger sukuna and knows 20 finger sukuna rivals him. He can accurately gauge how strong sukuna would be if he got a 3 times amp. Mahito also said that Jogo has more CE than that same sukuna, and kenjaku that he might rival 8-9 fingers. 3 different statements placing Jogo above 3 finger sukuna. I don't know what mahogara has to do with jogo. You know Jogo could also beat Mahogara if he used his domain right?
@@guesswho8556 1:If you can't prove and quantify that the difference between end of season 1 itadori and start of season 2 itadori in raw power is the difference to the extent you say it is, then it does not matter. Also stop bringing up the earthquake feat, it's ass and magnitude 2 radiated waves over such a small area has been calc'd to be small building level consistently. Also it's been flat out said jogo is TECHNICALLY STRONGER and then it goes into why, aka the elemental disadvantage. All it took was a google search bro. Also nanami even by the end of the fight stayed from weaker than dagon but able to stay relevant-weaker than dagon but able to stay relevant even after dagon took borderline zero damage throughout the fight, meaning the difference was miniscule at best. Jogo then perception blitzes. 2:Once again can't kill him. 3:what do you call getting blitzed so badly someone randomly pops up into your vision from multiple meters away while attempting to visualize them??? Also megumi just flat out stated numerous times toji was blitzing him similar to sukuna did, and he keeps up via prediction. Also gojo has zero knowledge on 20 finger sukuna and whether he rivals him other than boogie man folktales, don't be dishonest bro. Also not only does ce NOT equal ce output, but kenjaku said he was being generous making the statement unquantifable. Also mahoraga similar to toji have statements of being similar to 3 finger sukuna. Toji scales to maki who blatantly outsped mach 3 naoya numerous times and reacted to him after his movement(I swear to god if you start talking about it being prediction only I will bring out like 4 different scenes of her catching up to naoya and practically teleporting from him), mach 1 naoya outsped a yuji(and choso but he doesn't really matter ig) who has a FAT scaling chain to or above hanami in speed, hanami is relative to jogo in this department as stated on the point earlier. Therefore mahoraga blitzes and oneshots.
@@NO-zb3fz Nanami = Shibuya Itadori Tier strength + Ratio + Collapse + Revealing one's hand vinding bow. You have no evidence of season 1 itadori ever beating Nanami at full Power. If Mahito gets constantly damaged by jogo's domain he will simply run out of CE and die, so yes, it kills him. Toji never blitzed Megumi. Megumi evaded him the 2 times toji attacked him despite being unable to sense his Cursed Energy, which is what sorcerers use to predict attacks in the first place. Nue also reacted to 3 finger sukuna and was praised for it. Megumi never said he couldn't see Toji, just that it was really hard. Gojo already admitted that Sukuna would give him a hard fight. He is saying that same guy at 15% might be weaker than someone he just met and hasn't even displayed his full arsenal, whereas most of sukuna's CTs are public knowledge at the time. All Mahogara has is that he would have likely beaten 3 finger sukuna. That's it. Jogo can still beat mahogara if he ever traps him in his domain. The chances of victory aren't zero, so again, I don't understand why you even bring it up. Maki never outsped Naoya. She was blatantly slower. It isn't until she relies on her instincts that she can predict and evade his movements through precognition. In raw speed they are comparable, or outright slower than naoya. Human Naoya isn't Mach 1 in travel speed. It's literally stated that his max speed is subsonic. Hanami isn't relative to Jogo sorry. Already confirmed that only mahito and jogo would give kenjaku a hard fight.
Just updated the ranking a bit in anticipation for the Season 2 Top.
It'd be great. And will you make a manga list?
@@imranabdirafikov3847 when the manga is concluded
In the original video I had Hanami above Sukuna. 💀I was anime only sorry
The most interesting matchups for me are Todo vs Nanami and Hanami vs Mahito. For the latter, I went with Mahito since Hanami never displayed her domain. As for Todo vs Nanami, it's a coin toss IMO. However, if you give Playful Cloud to Todo, he should have an overwhelming advantage. The boost it gives to its wielder is insane.
1)Assuming that Toji(full arsenal) and 3f Sukuna are somehow relative, who'd win in a actual fight?
2)The next matchup is Toji vs Jogo. I often see people compare those 3 so i need your opinion
1) It's not an assumption. It's stated twice that they are rivals in speed. People just cope that Megumi is dumb because... Reasons. It'd favor sukuna due to his open domain and sure hit not needing a target with CE.
2) Jogo is stronger, but Toji has counters for pretty much everything he has. Toji likely wins mid diff due to compatibility.
the beatdrop when sukuna entered was damn godly
good boy
My top 15(only season 1 feats)
Runner up-Nobara Kugisaki(post black flash)
15-Maki Zenin
14-1st Finger Bearer
13-Noritoshi Kamo
12-Eso
11-Toge Inumaki
10-2nd Finger Bearer
9-Megumi Fushiguro
8-Yuji Itadori
7-Aoi Todo
6-Kento Nanami
5-Mahito
4-Hanami(no domain expansion feats)
3-Sukuna(3 fingers+domain expansion)
2-Jogo
1-Satoru Gojo
Interesting you went with the approach of Jogo > Sukuna (3 Fingers). Wasn't expecting it
😢always bet on jogoat. (Gojo also said that Jogo was stronger than sukuna at the time)
@@guesswho8556 Gojo said he's "probably" stronger. Get the facts right
@@See-BeeBee123 nah, I'd win.
Case dismissed
@@guesswho8556 "Kukuku."
Hmm.
Panda vs Maki is a interesting one.Can Maki take all three of Pandas lives?Panda,in gorilla Mode,was able to punch Geto and evade some of his punches,this alone for me a bigger feat than what maki has ever done in S1.
Yuji vs megumi is also a dilemma for me.Lets exclude Makora as we haven't seen it in S1(though he tried to summon it),still his incomplete domain might cause a problem for İtadori.Multiple nues,totality wolf,shadow clones etc.He can't destroy the domain as finger bearer did either.Yuji also haven't seen megumis domain,so there is a element of surprise.
For me it's %50 %50 and we lack enough data to compare them.İtadori also went aganist much stronger opponents,so there is that.
I agree about Todo>Nanamin and Mahito>Hanami.
Sukuna vs Jogo is also questionable.Gojo said he "might" be able to stronger current sukuna.Yet there were things gojo didn't know about sukuna.Such as sukunas domain being a open one,this changes a lot as we have seen in satoru vs sukuna.
Jogo probably had more CE but that's it.
In general a good list,better then most in the internet.
Panda using Gorilla Mode on Geto is anime only, and either way, Mechamaru, who is semi grade 1, had enough firepower and durability to compete with a much experienced and arguably stronger Gorilla mode Panda. Maki was able to react to sneak attack from Hanami and hits harder than Itadori Post Todo training.
I agree. Megumi vs Itadori could go either way.
The average sorcerer knows about Dismantle + Cleave + Flames. Those parts of Sukuna's CTs are public knowledge at the time, and he is also regarded as the strongest sorcerer that ever lived. On the other hand, Gojo hand't even seen Jogo use his CT. Just appear out of nowhere and start talking. If anything, Gojo knew more about Sukuna than he did Jogo.
@@guesswho8556 Fair enough for Panda vs Maki.
Satoru has the Six eyes. So he can easily tell ones CT just by looking.Both the way it works and the strength of it. So,he knew Jogos both CT and CE.Also his speed.
Second one is that,which i have already said,he doesn't know about sukunas open domain and we know it matters.Winning the domain battle is a decisive factor for the victory in general.
Sure it doesn't necessarily mean sukuna would win the domain battle.Saying Jogo>Sukuna is just as alright for me.
I just think that there are some arguments for the opposite side too.Thats why i find it questionable
Music is still a fucking banger, especially paired up with that Sukuna timing.
owo
Will you also do s2?
yes. This is just a remake of my old list
good top, in my opinion Hanami and Mahito could be interchangeable, but I don't give it much thought either.
Random question that arose from a debate I saw a few days ago and I wanted to know what you thought in particular.
Mahoraga vs Deku from the manga, who do you think will win?
Deku punches really hard I think. Weakened All Might could cause the weather to change with a single punch. Forgot how strong that feat actually is but it should be stronger than Red (which can one shot Mahogara) imo.
Deku can also tank those blows, so as long as mahogara isn't waaaay faster than him, deku should win mid diff.
Pretty accurate
thanks
Solely based of season 1 feats I would have hanami over MAHITO and jogo due to some statements and I would have hanami and jogo above sukuna 3F but MAHITO below sukuna 3F
Why you don't revise old lists of fate franchise ? 😅
Which ones
How current maki scales to jjk 0 Yuta/Geto? I remember she was the weakest out of the cast
Inverted spear of heaven and soul split katana are good counters for Rika and cursed spirit manipulation, so if speed is equalized he might have an edge. Overall, I think geto and yuta clear. Kenjaku could react multiple times to piercing blood at point Blanc range which is likely a hypersonic feat. Toji on the other hand is like mach 3? Dagon and Megumi could react to him. They also clap in the power department
@@guesswho8556So basically Toji falls far behind in terms of power, but can go toe to toe with special grade sorcerers due to the versatility. Maki doesn't have the ISOH though, that's a big disadvantage for her. Aside from CT, can it negate the DE and CE as well?
@@imranabdirafikov3847 he can toe to toe if, and only if, speed is equalized.
@@guesswho8556 Genuinely, how? Naobito was only second to Gojo in speed, which should well include both Yuta/Geto. Yet Toji can deal with him. I don't really think the speed alone would make that much of a difference
@@imranabdirafikov3847 we don't know that toji is comparable to Naobito in speed. Maki couldn't see human naoya move once he reached max speed and she still defeated him by figuring out his CT and anticipating his trajectory by faking an opening. Toji could be way slower than yuta and still beat Naobito just because he can use the right strategy.
Sukuna>Jogo
Hanami>Mahito
No
Sukuna would decimate Jogo even at 3 fingers
Reason ?
@@nguyenlehoang1234 His domain is still barrierless
That's assuming sukuna can break cast it and break jogo's barrier before he gets one shotted. He didn't destroy unlimited void instantly in the manga either.
@@guesswho8556 thats mainly because Gojo has by far the most refined and likely the strongest domain in the whole series. As for speed if he can keep up with Mahoraga (he says Mahoraga might've beaten me not you wouldve neg diffed me) he should have no problems with keeping up with Jogo
@@muratticugaratti1571 refinement doesn't determine how vulnerable a domain is to attacks from the outside. That is determine by how hard it is to exit the domain.
seeing yuji in top 10 puts a smile on my face
hopefully it ends up happening after the recent chapters
Mei Mei?
What did Mei Mei do in Season 1?
@@guesswho8556 I don't know. Say me. Where is Gakuganji in this list? He had a fight with Juzo.
@@МаксимМихеев-ю2ь off screen. We don't know how strong either of them are either.
@@guesswho8556 You are kidding, right? Mei Mei showed feats in Shibuya, Gakuganji after that.
@@МаксимМихеев-ю2ь S E A S O N 1
Sukuna, yuji, and hanami should be 1 spot higher. Other than that I have no disagreements.
mmm no? Nanami can match Itadori's Black Flash spam, and with Overtime he is considerably stronger than him. Collapse also caused a Magnitude 2 Earthquake during the fight against Mahito.
Hanami would just get one tapped by Mahito's domain, and as far as we know, she can't harm Mahito.
3 finger sukuna above jogo? Gojo said Jogo was stronger.
@@guesswho8556 1:"considerably stronger" isn't the difference between 80% and 120%. Also yuji scales to hanami in speed who's not only kept up with jogo during their fight with gojo(who he had no reason to hold his speed back during btw, as gojo was already statue blitzes faster than both of them), but is also confirmed to be only technically "weaker" than jogo because of elemental disadvantage. Jogo perception blitzed nanami .
2:was referring to stats, forgot mahito had that soul immunity. Going by that logic mahito should be above jogo also though, as jogo cannot kill mahito(domains just make it so your attacks always hit btw, not disable techniques as shown during the entirety of gojo vs sukuna and explained numerous times.)
3:gojo not only said probably, but also has quite literally ZERO knowledge on 3 finger sukuna other than potential word of mouth of megumi who got perception blitzed by him while casual, post domain, and heartless. Sukuna also considers losing to mahoraga as heartless, post domain, and 3 fingers as merely a possibility instead of 100%. And mahoraga shitstomps jogo unless you want me to explain such also.
@@NO-zb3fz 1. Yes. Considerably stronger. Nanami punches as hard as FULL POWER Shibuya Arc Itadori. Add to that his Ratio technique, which can harm people stronger than Nanami himself, or Collapse, which caused a magnitude 2 earthquake and season 1 itadori gets likely killed in one or 2 blows.
Gege never said that Hanami was "only" weaker than Jogo due to elemental disadvantage. He even said that Kenjaku would struggle against Mahito/Jogo but not Hanami. J
Jogo only blitzed a weakened Nanami that was weaker than Megumi with his burned out CT at the time.
2. Jogo is way faster than Mahito and can simply overpower him with his more refined and powerful domain.
3. Megumi didn't get perception blitzed. Nue literally reacted to and blocked an attack from behind from sukuna. Gojo also fought 1 finger sukuna and knows 20 finger sukuna rivals him. He can accurately gauge how strong sukuna would be if he got a 3 times amp. Mahito also said that Jogo has more CE than that same sukuna, and kenjaku that he might rival 8-9 fingers. 3 different statements placing Jogo above 3 finger sukuna.
I don't know what mahogara has to do with jogo. You know Jogo could also beat Mahogara if he used his domain right?
@@guesswho8556 1:If you can't prove and quantify that the difference between end of season 1 itadori and start of season 2 itadori in raw power is the difference to the extent you say it is, then it does not matter. Also stop bringing up the earthquake feat, it's ass and magnitude 2 radiated waves over such a small area has been calc'd to be small building level consistently. Also it's been flat out said jogo is TECHNICALLY STRONGER and then it goes into why, aka the elemental disadvantage. All it took was a google search bro. Also nanami even by the end of the fight stayed from weaker than dagon but able to stay relevant-weaker than dagon but able to stay relevant even after dagon took borderline zero damage throughout the fight, meaning the difference was miniscule at best. Jogo then perception blitzes.
2:Once again can't kill him.
3:what do you call getting blitzed so badly someone randomly pops up into your vision from multiple meters away while attempting to visualize them??? Also megumi just flat out stated numerous times toji was blitzing him similar to sukuna did, and he keeps up via prediction. Also gojo has zero knowledge on 20 finger sukuna and whether he rivals him other than boogie man folktales, don't be dishonest bro. Also not only does ce NOT equal ce output, but kenjaku said he was being generous making the statement unquantifable.
Also mahoraga similar to toji have statements of being similar to 3 finger sukuna. Toji scales to maki who blatantly outsped mach 3 naoya numerous times and reacted to him after his movement(I swear to god if you start talking about it being prediction only I will bring out like 4 different scenes of her catching up to naoya and practically teleporting from him), mach 1 naoya outsped a yuji(and choso but he doesn't really matter ig) who has a FAT scaling chain to or above hanami in speed, hanami is relative to jogo in this department as stated on the point earlier. Therefore mahoraga blitzes and oneshots.
@@NO-zb3fz Nanami = Shibuya Itadori Tier strength + Ratio + Collapse + Revealing one's hand vinding bow. You have no evidence of season 1 itadori ever beating Nanami at full Power.
If Mahito gets constantly damaged by jogo's domain he will simply run out of CE and die, so yes, it kills him.
Toji never blitzed Megumi. Megumi evaded him the 2 times toji attacked him despite being unable to sense his Cursed Energy, which is what sorcerers use to predict attacks in the first place. Nue also reacted to 3 finger sukuna and was praised for it. Megumi never said he couldn't see Toji, just that it was really hard.
Gojo already admitted that Sukuna would give him a hard fight. He is saying that same guy at 15% might be weaker than someone he just met and hasn't even displayed his full arsenal, whereas most of sukuna's CTs are public knowledge at the time.
All Mahogara has is that he would have likely beaten 3 finger sukuna. That's it. Jogo can still beat mahogara if he ever traps him in his domain. The chances of victory aren't zero, so again, I don't understand why you even bring it up.
Maki never outsped Naoya. She was blatantly slower. It isn't until she relies on her instincts that she can predict and evade his movements through precognition. In raw speed they are comparable, or outright slower than naoya.
Human Naoya isn't Mach 1 in travel speed. It's literally stated that his max speed is subsonic.
Hanami isn't relative to Jogo sorry. Already confirmed that only mahito and jogo would give kenjaku a hard fight.