This scene is actually incredible, you feel the passionate anger from Nick Nolte against the other parents but once they start speaking you also feel their side too
The English root of “arrogant” and “arrogance” is “arrogate” (which itself comes from Latin by way of French) and means “to claim for oneself,” and in the sense of “questioning ones’ ‘betters'” comes from the early 1500's. An English antonym of arrogate is “abdicate” as in ignore, give up, flee, run away from, ones’ duties and/or responsibilities. For me, this puts being accused of arrogance in a whole new light. I absolutely will not abdicate my right to assert myself in questioning what anyone tells me I must simply accept based on their status, position, rank, or supposed expertise.
I support the parents.they want their child to not live without basic human dignity.He was a vegetable.What life is that .Nobody would want that.Its easy to ask how could they but would you want to be living that way?Only if we are in their position we can talk.maybe we will fight and maybe we won't.
Oh thank god I’m not the only one that thinks this. These parents were cruel to keep Lorenzo living even though he could barely move, speak, basically imagine the one guy from the Metallica one music video. That’s Lorenzo
@@Carousel5883 Spoken like a person who lives in darkness! The Odones LIVED IN LIGHT because they had FAITH! Something you can't understand because you're so used to living in the darkness and lies of today's society. By the way Lorenzo was NOT a vegetable! Only people who live in darkness see he's a vegetable. Maybe you should research what happened to the real Lorenzo after this movie and then you'll realized he was NEVER a vegetable!
@@Carousel5883 imagine if you had a child with this condition during this era when people hardly knew anything about it. Would you simply accept they would die? Or would you fight like hell to give them every chance at a good life? There are other situations that could leave people in a vegetative state (like a car accident that leaves you in a coma) but that doesn't mean they should be viewed as vegetables. They are still human. If it were my son, I'd fight till my last breath.
If we waited for doctors to always come up with the answers, we’d lose a lot of ideas for treatments, and a lot of people wouldn’t live long. Some terminal diseases are so complex that you have to educate yourself on the symptoms, causes, and treatments so that you’re as close to being knowledgeable as the doctors treating you; if what they prescribe you doesn’t work, you should have the knowledge to question it, and be listened to rather than preached to like a priest to a choir.
It's an unfortunate reality that genuine scientific research takes time, otherwise you risk making the patient worse with an untested hypothesis. Remember that in another part of the movie, the Adone family subjected their son to chemotherapy because they thought it might help. But instead it horribly lower the quality of his life and did nothing to combat his ALD.
this has an important message, never get the last word from a doctor, I say this as someone who suffered from a disease all his life, there are doctors who can have mistakes, mistakes like any human being, and we are talking about the medicine that is a huge business for pharmaceutical companies, be very careful in trusting, always question everything
You know, I didn't know about this until I watched the movie "Paul", it was a refrence they used towards the end and I had no idea what they were talking about. So I looked it up and found out how much harder it is to understand it. I'm goin to have to watch the movie ..
I like that this showed the other parents' perspective and pain. And in some ways, they're not wrong. Lacking the Odone's education and scientific understanding, they don't feel competent to discern the difference between a legitimate evidence based therapy and pseudoscientific nonsense, so they consider it wise to defer to doctors. And honestly, in a world of anti-vaxxers and Jenny McCarthy, this scene hits differently in 2023 than it did in 1992.
you are your own advocate, you are the only one who has interest in your own well-being. not institutions or business whose sole interest is their bottom line. thanks to internet, knowledge is readily available to anyone who is seeking!
¡BIEN DICHO, CAMARADA! Esa es una de las tantas diferencias entre las lenguas latinas y las germanas. A este fenómeno se llama en lingüística: Falsos Primos. Palabras que suenas similar, pero tienen significados muy distintos. El alegato del padre aprovecha la acepción "buena de la palabra". Lo quiero como mi abogado cuando me acusen de Arrogante. 31-5-2024
I'm medical doctor- so the history take interesting me well. Hungary (Magyar)- i think so- ..........an interesting, special and......problematic country ....but I have not specially girl too much- so I dont know, WHY such it my country............Really- why? What have taked Lorenzo.....or his oil (erucan- acid taked something there.....) I dont understanding nothing in my country. Why, why, why......this is the status- have sombody understand something for thees??? How, why, when, etc. I'm so sorry that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
'Has it occurred to you that maybe he doesn't want to be around anymore?' 'Has it occurred to you that maybe he does want to be around with you as his parents even though you may want him dead to end his suffering?' 'Has it ever occurred to you that you don't know what he is thinking? Perhaps he loves you even though you may not love him enough to keep you alive. Perhaps he wants to stay alive in his suffering just so that he can be with you. Perhaps he is afraid of dying and he wants to be close to his parent. We don't know but we do know that Jesus know what we are thinking and feeling because he suffered horrendously while his Mother watched horrified. God know about suffering and his mother know what is like to see a loves one suffer horribly. Go to Jesus for the answers.
If you don’t want to use modern day medicine to get cured but instead go to “God” do it. Don’t encourage other people to do it. It’s reckless and ignorant. Fucking tool bag
@@Seek1878 Jesus is alive and He loves you. John 15:9-11 15:9 As the Father has loved me, so I have loved you. Remain in my love, 15:10 If you keep my commandments you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and remain in his love.
@@artsies7160 The tooth fairy will visit you and leave a coin under your pillow. Santa Claus sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake. He knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness's sake!
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Nick Nolte should have received an oscar for his performance . . . great acting
Fucking A, pal! You're right!
terrible accent tho
This scene is actually incredible, you feel the passionate anger from Nick Nolte against the other parents but once they start speaking you also feel their side too
This scene has superb acting. How everyone gradually reaching boiling point as civil as possible.
The English root of “arrogant” and “arrogance” is “arrogate” (which itself comes from Latin by way of French) and means “to claim for oneself,” and in the sense of “questioning ones’ ‘betters'” comes from the early
1500's.
An English antonym of arrogate is “abdicate” as in ignore, give up, flee, run away from, ones’ duties and/or responsibilities. For me, this puts being accused of arrogance in a whole new light.
I absolutely will not abdicate my right to assert myself in questioning what anyone tells me I must simply accept based on their status, position, rank, or supposed expertise.
This is a great comment 👍👍
Those parents just gave up hope before their kid was dead. The Odene's decided to be their child's hope. Awesome Movie!
I support the parents.they want their child to not live without basic human dignity.He was a vegetable.What life is that .Nobody would want that.Its easy to ask how could they but would you want to be living that way?Only if we are in their position we can talk.maybe we will fight and maybe we won't.
Oh thank god I’m not the only one that thinks this. These parents were cruel to keep Lorenzo living even though he could barely move, speak, basically imagine the one guy from the Metallica one music video. That’s Lorenzo
@@Carousel5883 Spoken like a person who lives in darkness! The Odones LIVED IN LIGHT because they had FAITH! Something you can't understand because you're so used to living in the darkness and lies of today's society.
By the way Lorenzo was NOT a vegetable! Only people who live in darkness see he's a vegetable. Maybe you should research what happened to the real Lorenzo after this movie and then you'll realized he was NEVER a vegetable!
@@Carousel5883 imagine if you had a child with this condition during this era when people hardly knew anything about it. Would you simply accept they would die? Or would you fight like hell to give them every chance at a good life? There are other situations that could leave people in a vegetative state (like a car accident that leaves you in a coma) but that doesn't mean they should be viewed as vegetables. They are still human. If it were my son, I'd fight till my last breath.
I don't think any of the parents in this scene are the "bad guys". They are both trying to handle a shitty situation the best that they can.
I felt so sorry for this family and what they had to go through
If we waited for doctors to always come up with the answers, we’d lose a lot of ideas for treatments, and a lot of people wouldn’t live long. Some terminal diseases are so complex that you have to educate yourself on the symptoms, causes, and treatments so that you’re as close to being knowledgeable as the doctors treating you; if what they prescribe you doesn’t work, you should have the knowledge to question it, and be listened to rather than preached to like a priest to a choir.
It's an unfortunate reality that genuine scientific research takes time, otherwise you risk making the patient worse with an untested hypothesis. Remember that in another part of the movie, the Adone family subjected their son to chemotherapy because they thought it might help. But instead it horribly lower the quality of his life and did nothing to combat his ALD.
@@UNLebanonso? What did you say with your comment? Absolutely nothing.
@@giovannitocco No, I did say something. Try reading it again within the context of the original post.
Medical researchers come up with answers usually more than doctors. And a lot of kooky people try and peddle bad ideas.
Excellent acting!
Worthy an Oscar definitely! 👏
this has an important message, never get the last word from a doctor, I say this as someone who suffered from a disease all his life, there are doctors who can have mistakes, mistakes like any human being, and we are talking about the medicine that is a huge business for pharmaceutical companies, be very careful in trusting, always question everything
Nike Nolte is just amazing! Amazing! Excellent movie. WOW
"Their is no money in the cure." I applaud Lorenzo's parents for what they did.
You know, I didn't know about this until I watched the movie "Paul", it was a refrence they used towards the end and I had no idea what they were talking about. So I looked it up and found out how much harder it is to understand it. I'm goin to have to watch the movie ..
Be sure to watch it all the way through....
I always wondered why was he always shaky in the research scenes.
I like that this showed the other parents' perspective and pain. And in some ways, they're not wrong. Lacking the Odone's education and scientific understanding, they don't feel competent to discern the difference between a legitimate evidence based therapy and pseudoscientific nonsense, so they consider it wise to defer to doctors.
And honestly, in a world of anti-vaxxers and Jenny McCarthy, this scene hits differently in 2023 than it did in 1992.
Who are you to say “they’re not wrong” ? Is better to stay silent instead of talking bullshit
One thing I like about this scene is I can understand where both sets of parents are coming from.
Susan Sarandon was definitely the new Bette Davis, they were so a like.
In fact, she played Bette Davis in that FEUD series produced by Ryan Murphy…
Yea he is hard core. Love him
I think this is the best scene👌👌👌👌
Yes because it shows how much stupidity there is in people who just thinks life is a scheme
My son use lorenzo oil in two year he was dead my son my life my hear I miss my son please diagnose disease 22 year of my son
you are your own advocate, you are the only one who has interest in your own well-being. not institutions or business whose sole interest is their bottom line. thanks to internet, knowledge is readily available to anyone who is seeking!
¡BIEN DICHO, CAMARADA! Esa es una de las tantas diferencias entre las lenguas latinas y las germanas. A este fenómeno se llama en lingüística: Falsos Primos. Palabras que suenas similar, pero tienen significados muy distintos.
El alegato del padre aprovecha la acepción "buena de la palabra". Lo quiero como mi abogado cuando me acusen de Arrogante. 31-5-2024
THE SPANISH WORD FOR LAWERANCE IS LORENZO
James Rebhorn is also very good in here.
To my dam opinion sounds like Bone Marrow problems without transplant maybe more worse without understanding??!!
Lorenzo's Oil pray for more answers
And now there is a gene therapy :D go go Skysona!
HUNGARIAN supervisors had spoken STOP the film. Whyyyy?
I have'nt matter for this briiliant film! ONLY at Hungary do'nt look for this film there- why? I don" know!!!!
You reply to your own comment....strange 🤔
@Zsuzsanna Varga lmaooo
I'm medical doctor- so the history take interesting me well. Hungary (Magyar)- i think so- ..........an interesting, special and......problematic country ....but I have not specially girl too much- so I dont know, WHY such it my country............Really- why? What have taked Lorenzo.....or his oil (erucan- acid taked something there.....) I dont understanding nothing in my country. Why, why, why......this is the status- have sombody understand something for thees??? How, why, when, etc. I'm so sorry that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jo reggelt
I don't like Dr House show.
'Has it occurred to you that maybe he doesn't want to be around anymore?'
'Has it occurred to you that maybe he does want to be around with you as his parents even though you may want him dead to end his suffering?'
'Has it ever occurred to you that you don't know what he is thinking? Perhaps he loves you even though you may not love him enough to keep you alive. Perhaps he wants to stay alive in his suffering just so that he can be with you. Perhaps he is afraid of dying and he wants to be close to his parent. We don't know but we do know that Jesus know what we are thinking and feeling because he suffered horrendously while his Mother watched horrified. God know about suffering and his mother know what is like to see a loves one suffer horribly. Go to Jesus for the answers.
If you don’t want to use modern day medicine to get cured but instead go to “God” do it. Don’t encourage other people to do it. It’s reckless and ignorant. Fucking tool bag
jesus is imaginary
@@Seek1878 Jesus is alive and He loves you. John 15:9-11
15:9 As the Father has loved me, so I have loved you. Remain in my love,
15:10 If you keep my commandments you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and remain in his love.
@@artsies7160 The tooth fairy will visit you and leave a coin under your pillow.
Santa Claus sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake. He knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness's sake!
Ivermectin
is sheep dewormer
@@Seek1878 And other things too....