Her arc is so good, her beat down against sports maxx is one of the most satisfying and raw in JoJo, with every blow she lands you can feel the emotion. I especially love in the dub how she says "they're all for MY Gloria" Instead, made me cry a bunch :^).
You should’ve seen the Jojo panel at Anime Impulse. Tiana Camacho mentioned how that one scene hit close to home. She told me before when I met her at a different convention, but she fully explained it during the panel
I like how Ermes's revenge is portrayed as completely justified and in the anime (I don't remember if this also happens in the manga) Gloria's spirit appears and hugs Ermes after she finishes Sports Maxx, a lot of revenge stories take the whole "taking revenge makes you just as bad" angle which isn't necessarily bad but it is nice to see a revenge story that doesn't take that route (and yes Polnareff's revenge story is like this too).
It's like that way in the manga too, isn't it? Jolyne goes through the whole "Hermes no revenge isn't worth it" and she's just like "nah fuck that this dude killed my fucking sister I'm not letting that go" and she defeats him and there aren't any real lasting consequences for doing so. She's incapacitated for the entire Ultra Security House Unit arc, but by the end she's fully recovered and there are no lasting injuries from the fight. For all intents and purposes every version of the Limp Bizkit fight is on Hermes's side.
Yeah, revenge isn't necessarily a bad thing. But it can destroy you as a person. She never fell too far, and she had friends who were equally willing to help as well as carry her out of the darkness.
Revenge can often destroy a person and Ermes didn’t deserve it that. Even after losing her sister she managed to find new loved ones and it brought out the best in her
Ermes is the Polnareff of part 6, she wanted revenge for her sister that was killed because she wanted to protect her... and after the reset, Ermes can live in peace because her sister lived. A good ending for the character and the whole part.
@@sed4512 Nope. Nothing in Ermes life was influenced by Pucci, only Sports Max. After the reset, Eldis (the alternative) had a better life so her sister didn't died.
I feel like a theme of Kiss that was missed in this video was the aspect of slapping a label on something to duplicate it, while overall damaging the original. I personally read this as a call out to Gene and Paul's drove to pit the Kiss branding on everything and anything for merch, to the point that most people these days view Kiss as a brand rather than an actual band.
Ermes has one of my absolute favorite beatdowns in all of Stone Ocean, and is how she absolutely destroys Sports Maxx: The next punch is for Gloria, and the next one And the next one And the next one And the next one And the next one And the next one
@@Shxdxe I don't hate it either and I actually love the ending, it was risk taking but positive risk taking. I just don't like the part as a whole. The JoBros are weak, the enemies/enemy stands are not memorable, Jolyne had to carry the part, the whole Dio/Jotaro angle seemed like retconning "oh here's an interaction Dio happened to have BEFORE part 3 that is now the reason P6 is happening"
@@Yami_Spirit this!! Yeah like I do really like the Part 6 characters but they’re by far the most forgettable. Also, even though Dio looked so pretty in Part 6, it kinda feels like Part 6 was just an excuse to bring him back
Hermes is a great gal and i'm glad she didn't let her revenge kill her off as it usually does for people both irl or not. Glad you're making a video on her :D
Ermes is such a great character because of clean revenge. No one else was killed or harmed irreprebly on her path to avenge her sister, only Sports Maxx and his zombies. It was satisfying in the way Inigo Montoya's is, how Polnarref's almost was. Giving up on revenge or revenge leading to ruin is something you see so often, but rarely ever the cases were it goes right and people want and remember that. Ermes' story is great and god if I don't have a big fat lesbian crush oh her.
that true. well joylne and f.f was hurted. also a hooker was brutally murdered by flaccid pancake : sports max. even I don't swing that way joylne,Hermes,foo fighters? are my hot version of Charlie angels.when I readed the manga. espically unknowly? put sticker on his head? god that part? I imaged what he felt. that what I do when I read and play games,write,watch. but? invisible ghost zombies with super strength and climb the walls and ceilings. and punch to. the female hooker? that was cool. also kiss got same stats as star platinum. also brutal. when jotaro gives you his I'm the judge look. but? I'm trying grow my beard part underneath. to look like Hermes. and my upper moustache above my lip? to look like Scott Thompson from kids in the hall. also strings+stickers+plankton= good support team and combos. just my opinion.
I like how her story of revenge wasn't just one of self destruction but was rather righteous justice. Other than that she's probably on the low scale of anyone's favorite jobro.
It makes sense since she's one of the jobros to get the least screentime and her arc resembles Polnarref's even if it does differ. So she's the weakest link, Kakyoin who got shafted hard got more screentime and there's no way she could compete with Bucciraiti or Gyro who took over their respective parts and just had a lot more going on. She's still amazing, I love her, and at least she's a better love interest to Jolyne then Anasui is.
@@1337speakcow even polnareff got more out of his arc. He got to kill vanilla ice after his quest against centerfold not to mention she tends to underestimate the situation at hand when she punches Raquel thinking he was talking nonsense or calling out maiden heaven as some sort of cheap trick despite the pucci display light show. Even getting herself caught between two automatic doors in the process ( which was hilarious by the way). But she seems like the dependable friend you can count on. She's older and tends to know her way around the block.
Loved your final comment about found/blood families. Really nails home a lot of themes in Stone Ocean that are constantly overlooked by general disdain for the part.
I remember getting extremely invested emotionally and physically with Ermes beat down of sports max, I still rewatch that beatdown to this day whenever I need a pick-me-up. It highlights one of my favorite things about Jojo’s in general is just how invested you can become in some of these characters that you barely spend time. It’s a sign of really good writing and I love it
Hey! good timing. Just started watching stone ocean and up to where Ermes gets her stand. Also found it super funny this is one of the stands they localized, but it literally has it’s original name written on it’s chest
Love a good revenge story. Ermes and Kurapika have some of the most fantastic revenge plots in anime / manga. I love loyal she is to justice and Jolyne's mission
Kiss’ ability is very reminiscent of D4C. Either being partially inspiring it or Kiss actually tapping into different dimensions in away. Just something I notice.
Polnareff and Hermes are so alike. Both sought revenge against the man who killed their respective sisters when they were failed by the justice system, and succeeded in the revenge.
In my opinion Ermes's biggest problem as a character is that she completes her character arc and avenges her sister too early in the story. Her start is standard, her revenge arc is really good, and after that she does practically nothing in the story. She doesen't even have a reason to got after Pucci, well, except of course that she's friends with Jolyne (which could be built better) and that she wants to avenge F.F (which in the manga she doesen't even have a scene to show her reaction to her death)
Considering he tried to kill her and her friends multiple times before she got her revenge against Sports Maxx, I'd say she has full reason to help go after Pucci
@@javiermedina9392 "Avdol thought to himself that there is evil in this world that must be eliminated" Yep, pretty simple reason not gonna lie, his motivations could definetely better, *but* they're also definetely clear and stated
hey do you want to make an analysis video for Kakyoin Noriaki? I couldn't find anything about him on your channel 😅 I love that character and I really like your analysis videos, and I'd be happy to watch a deep dive into his character.
I liked Tiana Camacho as Hermes. She fit her tough and savvy personality with the rare funny moment. She did great but had a few bad lines, mostly just her saying the localized stand name.
One thing her chin tattoo thing did was to remind me of Cleopatra and how she had that fake beard thingy to be treated and referred to as equally as a male pharaoh
Bro piece of advice for future videos - don't put a red bar like that near the bottom of your thumbnails. Saw this video on my recommended and figured I'd already seen it so i scrolled past it lol. Good thing I came back to check bc this video should be good.
All Ermes was missing from Polnareff's life was coming back 2 parts later and exposing the secret of the boss' stand... Well I guess she was in part 8 so half of that was done.
Her arc is so good, her beat down against sports maxx is one of the most satisfying and raw in JoJo, with every blow she lands you can feel the emotion. I especially love in the dub how she says "they're all for MY Gloria" Instead, made me cry a bunch :^).
You should’ve seen the Jojo panel at Anime Impulse. Tiana Camacho mentioned how that one scene hit close to home. She told me before when I met her at a different convention, but she fully explained it during the panel
agreed
@@susie1175 is there a recording of it somewhere online? I haven't been able to find one on TH-cam :(.
And then she doesen't do anything more
(Except for that moment of the Underworld fight, and bring Jotaro to the fight)
L dub
I like how Ermes's revenge is portrayed as completely justified and in the anime (I don't remember if this also happens in the manga) Gloria's spirit appears and hugs Ermes after she finishes Sports Maxx, a lot of revenge stories take the whole "taking revenge makes you just as bad" angle which isn't necessarily bad but it is nice to see a revenge story that doesn't take that route (and yes Polnareff's revenge story is like this too).
It's like that way in the manga too, isn't it? Jolyne goes through the whole "Hermes no revenge isn't worth it" and she's just like "nah fuck that this dude killed my fucking sister I'm not letting that go" and she defeats him and there aren't any real lasting consequences for doing so. She's incapacitated for the entire Ultra Security House Unit arc, but by the end she's fully recovered and there are no lasting injuries from the fight. For all intents and purposes every version of the Limp Bizkit fight is on Hermes's side.
The anime added Gloria's ghost, but yeah, both anime and manga have Ermes's great speech about vengueance
Yeah, revenge isn't necessarily a bad thing. But it can destroy you as a person. She never fell too far, and she had friends who were equally willing to help as well as carry her out of the darkness.
It's like Gloria went down to say thanks.
I love Inigo Montoya he still has his desire for revenge, but he controls it. He is a man of honour who seeks vengeance without harming the innocent.
Revenge can often destroy a person and Ermes didn’t deserve it that. Even after losing her sister she managed to find new loved ones and it brought out the best in her
Ermes is the Polnareff of part 6, she wanted revenge for her sister that was killed because she wanted to protect her... and after the reset, Ermes can live in peace because her sister lived. A good ending for the character and the whole part.
Isn’t she also the JoBro though?
@@gameb9oy
Yes! Like Polnareff, what a surprise!
I thought only Pucci was erased after the Universe reset. Did Pucci have influence on her sisters Death?
@@sed4512
Nope. Nothing in Ermes life was influenced by Pucci, only Sports Max. After the reset, Eldis (the alternative) had a better life so her sister didn't died.
maybe thats why i liked her
I feel like a theme of Kiss that was missed in this video was the aspect of slapping a label on something to duplicate it, while overall damaging the original. I personally read this as a call out to Gene and Paul's drove to pit the Kiss branding on everything and anything for merch, to the point that most people these days view Kiss as a brand rather than an actual band.
Omg that’s hilarious tho. Kiss merch goes hard
Ermes has one of my absolute favorite beatdowns in all of Stone Ocean, and is how she absolutely destroys Sports Maxx:
The next punch is for Gloria, and the next one
And the next one
And the next one
And the next one
And the next one
And the next one
I would've given at least one for the dad
It's like it's parodying Jagi's defeat in HNK
Alright, just say it now Meti: You love Part 6
"You like Stone Ocean, don't you, Meti? 😏😏"
Glad you are bringing love to Part 6 which you used to hate years ago but now you seem to appreciate it now.
Honestly, I’m kind the same. Well, I never hated part 6, just thought the ending was very disappointing. But it’s slowly starting to grow on me
@@Shxdxe I don't hate it either and I actually love the ending, it was risk taking but positive risk taking. I just don't like the part as a whole. The JoBros are weak, the enemies/enemy stands are not memorable, Jolyne had to carry the part, the whole Dio/Jotaro angle seemed like retconning "oh here's an interaction Dio happened to have BEFORE part 3 that is now the reason P6 is happening"
@@Yami_Spirit this!! Yeah like I do really like the Part 6 characters but they’re by far the most forgettable. Also, even though Dio looked so pretty in Part 6, it kinda feels like Part 6 was just an excuse to bring him back
agreed
@@Yami_Spirit honestly the DIO retcon is worth it since we got pucci out of it
Hermes is a great gal and i'm glad she didn't let her revenge kill her off as it usually does for people both irl or not. Glad you're making a video on her :D
Ermes is such a great character because of clean revenge. No one else was killed or harmed irreprebly on her path to avenge her sister, only Sports Maxx and his zombies. It was satisfying in the way Inigo Montoya's is, how Polnarref's almost was. Giving up on revenge or revenge leading to ruin is something you see so often, but rarely ever the cases were it goes right and people want and remember that. Ermes' story is great and god if I don't have a big fat lesbian crush oh her.
that true. well joylne and f.f was hurted. also a hooker was brutally murdered by flaccid pancake : sports max. even I don't swing that way joylne,Hermes,foo fighters? are my hot version of Charlie angels.when I readed the manga. espically unknowly? put sticker on his head? god that part? I imaged what he felt. that what I do when I read and play games,write,watch. but? invisible ghost zombies with super strength and climb the walls and ceilings. and punch to. the female hooker? that was cool. also kiss got same stats as star platinum. also brutal. when jotaro gives you his I'm the judge look. but? I'm trying grow my beard part underneath. to look like Hermes. and my upper moustache above my lip? to look like Scott Thompson from kids in the hall. also strings+stickers+plankton= good support team and combos. just my opinion.
I wish her character was more after that arc
@@PrixtoTNT , same here. but? she was injured. I understand long absence. but? kiss I love see more. also sad f.f died. now just thinking about it.
I like how her story of revenge wasn't just one of self destruction but was rather righteous justice. Other than that she's probably on the low scale of anyone's favorite jobro.
shes my favorite jojo😔
It makes sense since she's one of the jobros to get the least screentime and her arc resembles Polnarref's even if it does differ. So she's the weakest link, Kakyoin who got shafted hard got more screentime and there's no way she could compete with Bucciraiti or Gyro who took over their respective parts and just had a lot more going on. She's still amazing, I love her, and at least she's a better love interest to Jolyne then Anasui is.
@@1337speakcow even polnareff got more out of his arc. He got to kill vanilla ice after his quest against centerfold not to mention she tends to underestimate the situation at hand when she punches Raquel thinking he was talking nonsense or calling out maiden heaven as some sort of cheap trick despite the pucci display light show. Even getting herself caught between two automatic doors in the process ( which was hilarious by the way). But she seems like the dependable friend you can count on. She's older and tends to know her way around the block.
@@1337speakcow honestly I felt that Anasui and Weather were more important to the plot than Ermes and FF.
@@1337speakcow I fail to see any romantic tension between her and Jolyne at all
Loved your final comment about found/blood families. Really nails home a lot of themes in Stone Ocean that are constantly overlooked by general disdain for the part.
The constant use of the Ermes plush just spinning in place is hilarious to me
I remember getting extremely invested emotionally and physically with Ermes beat down of sports max, I still rewatch that beatdown to this day whenever I need a pick-me-up. It highlights one of my favorite things about Jojo’s in general is just how invested you can become in some of these characters that you barely spend time. It’s a sign of really good writing and I love it
Shimoneta after inventing [not the bad guy]:
💲💲💲
Hey! good timing. Just started watching stone ocean and up to where Ermes gets her stand.
Also found it super funny this is one of the stands they localized, but it literally has it’s original name written on it’s chest
Love a good revenge story. Ermes and Kurapika have some of the most fantastic revenge plots in anime / manga. I love loyal she is to justice and Jolyne's mission
Finally some Ermes appreciation!!
3:09 GODDAMNIT
Based Meti going back on his Part 6 hatred and seeing the light
5:02 does anyone remember alt-narancia and their strange theory that Ermes was transitioning into a man?
Yes! A video on Aniki Ermes!
SUPER NICE, love it when you talk about part 6!
Kiss’ ability is very reminiscent of D4C. Either being partially inspiring it or Kiss actually tapping into different dimensions in away. Just something I notice.
disagree but i see where you're going from
Been binging these while I work and saw this one suggested and thought “why didn’t this ever pop up before?” then realized it was an hour ago
I actually love the design and ability of kiss so much. Definitely one of if not my favourite in p6
FINALLY YOU MADE THE VIDEO EVERYONES (maybe just me) BEEN WAITING FOR
hope meti does Strength, its one of my personal favorites
It’s so nice to see another JoJo video from you!!
*ah yes the fight against "ultra supreme sporticum maxidong and is terrifying stand: Flaccid pancake*
Really enjoyed Ermes. Loved her revenge against Sports Maxx. I keep watching that moment over and over.
The one woman who can make stickers utterly badass!
Admitting Stone Ocean and Ermes are good ‼️
Revenge Characters are very interesting as you could end up as Ermes or Miller.
“She’s not my favorite character but I can definitely see why she might be someone else’s”
me :D
I was waiting on this for so long and I have not been disappointed.
Meti "I Love Stone Ocean" NTBG
Polnareff and Hermes are so alike. Both sought revenge against the man who killed their respective sisters when they were failed by the justice system, and succeeded in the revenge.
I love your channel intros
I´ve been waiting for this! thanks a lot!
Ohhhh yes thank you
Building a bastard:Caesar Clown
would be hella nice and interesting, Also it would be Meti's first One piece video
I still like the fact that you are using the old manga panel animations and not just slapping off anime scenes. Great video!
I think it is harder to get copyrighted that way too
Gotta say, the part 6 anime really seems to have flipped Meti’s opinions on the part as a whole.
Yknow, she's been compared to other Jobros but I feel that Hermes has a way more biting, cynical sense of humour.
Currently playing through blue lions route in fe3h and this rings so deep with dmitri
Hope to see a part 9 video some time this year
Ermes has the best revenge story in jojo in my opinion.
Classic Ermes Costello W
6:00
the stickers are definitely the most noticeable part……..nothing else……….
Yes! My favorite Part 6 character!
Bruno okuyasu and ermes are the holy Trinity
I’ve been hoping you’d cover her in a video!
In my opinion Ermes's biggest problem as a character is that she completes her character arc and avenges her sister too early in the story.
Her start is standard, her revenge arc is really good, and after that she does practically nothing in the story. She doesen't even have a reason to got after Pucci, well, except of course that she's friends with Jolyne (which could be built better) and that she wants to avenge F.F (which in the manga she doesen't even have a scene to show her reaction to her death)
Considering he tried to kill her and her friends multiple times before she got her revenge against Sports Maxx, I'd say she has full reason to help go after Pucci
Why does avdol wants to kill DIO?
@@javiermedina9392 "Avdol thought to himself that there is evil in this world that must be eliminated"
Yep, pretty simple reason not gonna lie, his motivations could definetely better, *but* they're also definetely clear and stated
Ermes is beautiful I agree meti
hey do you want to make an analysis video for Kakyoin Noriaki? I couldn't find anything about him on your channel 😅 I love that character and I really like your analysis videos, and I'd be happy to watch a deep dive into his character.
ah, yes
alternative prison wallet
Before I read part 6 I kept hearing I wouldn't like it but it's one of my favorite parts right behind steel ball run and diamond is unbreakable
W
tbh 5, 6 and 7 are my faves atm but if i had to pick between just the animes it'd be 5. 6 is fucking amazing but 5 just sort of squeeks a head abit
I liked Tiana Camacho as Hermes. She fit her tough and savvy personality with the rare funny moment.
She did great but had a few bad lines, mostly just her saying the localized stand name.
Thank you!!!
How can I click on a video from 12 seconds ago and there be muffuahs with 15 minute + comments? I'm scared and impressed
Is it alright if I request a video on Micah Bell from red dead redemption 2?
One thing her chin tattoo thing did was to remind me of Cleopatra and how she had that fake beard thingy to be treated and referred to as equally as a male pharaoh
Bro piece of advice for future videos - don't put a red bar like that near the bottom of your thumbnails. Saw this video on my recommended and figured I'd already seen it so i scrolled past it lol. Good thing I came back to check bc this video should be good.
Im still waiting for him to do Tooru and Wonder Of U or The Flow Of Calamity
of course she has become Jolyne's family, she's her wife and her husband's handler
Needs a sprinkle of spigkneeot to be Frank, Eric and James.
Ermes Class E
Hermes god of ATHLETES takes revenge on SPORTS Max 🤨
Where is the Shigekiyo Yangu episode???
Hes definetly in the top 10 best caracters.
I want revenge, yes it will fill my heart because that's all I want
Could we get a Kakyoin video?
tekken in literally the first video frame??? so based
Ermes is bae
Hehe Ermes ball/roll
I just realized, you have done a video on kendo rappa, but not muscular
Have you done a glory of type video of funny Valentine yet?
Exellent
Hey meti if you ever want to make a video about emporio please let me help you I know more about his background information than anyone
Someone finally understands my wife
The pad Hermes I’m glad it be I wish the pad jojo event was in america
Cool
Could you please talk about Miu Miu and her terrifying stand?
What stand? whos Miu Miu?
Find Emporio
1:53 "Hermés" is how you pronounce Hermes in french. So it's literraly Hermes's name.
Can you do Wonder of U
All Ermes was missing from Polnareff's life was coming back 2 parts later and exposing the secret of the boss' stand... Well I guess she was in part 8 so half of that was done.
I'm waiting and hoping for a video about Giorno.
I really want a girl like ermes
On avarage how much of the video prodction time is needed for you to come up with the opening alliteration?
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
3:08 among us
Make one on emporio if you havent
Most goated anime kid that isn’t
teen gohan
Serious question does this dude still hates part 6?
hi meti
You spelled best Jobro wrong in your title
Rock human lady :D
???
@@javiermedina9392 she cameo'd in part 8, in a rock human biology page.
@@BobbinRobbin777 yeah but that was just to reference how rockhumans get in society withou no one knowing
I thought you hated Ermes Costello. I recall you saying she is something that worked, just executed poorly.
well, people change their minds sometimes. guess that's what happened here.
Jolyne next?
You should do video on xenoblade characters.
Hermes is the hottest Joe girl.