She was harmed and not benefitted from being there. They wrecked her life, made her lose her job and reason for moving, gave her PTSD and robbed her insurance for thousands. They should be in jail.
I was at Brandon regional down the road from Tampa, I needed help and instead I was held against my will, in unacceptable conditions, there was another patient that kept walking into my room, disturbing me, then another patient shit all over my bathroom, like a poop grenade went off, never got cleaned for day and a half, had to have an outside source call in to get it fixed. The doc? Absolute shit head that literally never listened to any of my actual issues and blamed something entirely different. Gave me ptsd, luckily for me I had vacation to use or ide probably have been fired as well. These places are for human life, they are for profit, and it’s disgusting and unacceptable
I am a victim too! This happened to me 20 years ago! HOLD THESE PEOPLE, HOSPITALS, ETC accountable! I will never ever be able to seek healthcare again without first taking measures to prevent a panic attack. It ruined my trust in healthcare. It’s so vulnerable too because sometimes people are under the impression that patient automatically is wrong and facility is automatically right….
Same… I’m also traumatized so bad I didn’t go in for even a probably fractured foot and it’s stuck with a ball of scar tissue now. You know what though? Worth it. It’s scary to be a single woman with no one around. I didn’t watch it but I’m assuming she was alone when this happened? There’s a clear pattern :/
Same thing happened to me in 2010 and I was not able to find an attorney to help me at the time. The hospital is in sun Valley California and it's called Pacifica hospital.
@@anniesshenanigans3815 Great point! I hope she got a large settlement because it takes a lot of courage to overcome the stigma and stand up against this as well as tell her employer about it, notwithstanding the news.
@@anniesshenanigans3815 probably fired for job abandonment, but sure there is more to that story than we are told. Its insanely hard to get fired in a government job.
Yeah there was another case of 286 people held in a facility for several months somewhere and lawyers and sheriff's had to come to get them out. They were charged with frivolous billing and basically just used them as bodies to bill and never needed services.
In 1996, I was held in a place like that for 3 days just because my bf and I were arguing and someone called the cops. It was terrifying cuz there were seriously ill people in there. I’ve never been suicidal, but after that experience, even if I did “need help” I’ll never go to a place like that again.
It happened to me too. Just know that you are not alone, so many of us are victims in its time that these facilities own up to the abuse that they routinely inflict and charge for.
I’m sorry…I had a similar experience as as yours years ago when my narcissistic mother called the cops on me to have me arrested and committed, all for telling her in an argument that she should’ve aborted me. The cops read my journals in the psych-ward intake area as I helplessly watched. I was yelled at by a female doctor to strip naked because I left my underwear on. I had to walk the hallways with my butt hanging out of the H gown for all to see. The bathroom had a huge gap between to door and frame so anyone standing there or walking by would see you going to the bathroom. I was accused of wanting to become a prostitute. I was given no food for my one night and one day stay. I was only released after a psychiatrist lectured me to stop giving my mom (abusive narc) such a hard time and being terrible to her. I had some suicidal ideation that I did not talk about with anyone (still do), but was really wanting to die even more after that horrible experience. It must be mind blowing how many other people share this experience.
@@threefreaksonaleash6619 I wrote and deleted three replies cuz it’s so horrible what can I possibly say, I’m sorry nobody was there to protect you. Mothers aren’t supposed to treat you that way. Facilities like that place shouldn’t exist.
Hilarious, they keep people who are not ill to profit off of, meanwhile, they refuse to help people who actually need help, and release them. All praise the MONEY GODS!!!
Financial Divination is their Alchemy that Fates us all. Spherical Cows producing that Nitrogen Boom Boom and Genetically Inferior Grains for biofuels. Science died when the Secular movement started diddling the child heirs with this DEI crap stealing the nations. If usurpers cannot take a hit at accredited scientists ie the throne because its too damn militarized with obfuscation then their attacks will always fall unto the cradle, that's Socrates right there. A man takes criticism to protect the children, and they learn by the vestiges of waste thereof.
If you have insurance and mental health problems, dont seek help. Thats my take away from these stories, she isnt the only one. One psychiatrist even had commitment orders already signed, to “save time”, as he put it. Profit and healthcare are bad bedmates.
Illinois nurse here. I am disgusted with how our Healthcare system and insurance companies function. They 100% do not care for your wellbeing. They care about the bottom line. That is why we never have enough staff. Don't let them lead you to believe there is a shortage of nurses! Many years of continued understaffing by management is causing nurses to avoid working at certain jobs. Nursing homes are some of the worst offenders. Not to mention the cost passed down to the consumer! My recent 6 hour ED visit consisting of an abdominal CT, CBC, CMP, Urinalysis, a 1000ml bag of 0.9 normal saline and a 1x dose of IV push morphine cost over 17,000$! Thankfully I'm insured! You wonder where that money goes? Look up how much hospital and Healthcare facilities CEOs make annually!
I have had the same thing happen to me. I was at Largo Medical Center - Indian Rocks campus, and a local doctor from Largo manipulated the wording of the conditions of my release under the Baker Act. I apparently was not ready to leave according to him. The local drug addicts and homeless, some of whom actually needed help, were booted in less than 36 hours. I on the other hand having insurance at the time, was kept for a full 5 days. The actual crazy in that unit was making me crazy. After I was discharged, the bill from the hospital to my insurance said I had a private room. There was nothing private about having some stranger stare at you from a bed 6 feet away from you. Now I would rather mentally suffer than to seek "help".
Yep, also kidnapped because I checked myself into The VETERAN'S ER for a serious health scare, and they needed to do a biopsy for Cncer. They decided while I wait for the results they should dump me in the asylum "just so in case the results came back positive." They had no oversight in there, the nasty ghetto nurse serached the contests of my purse than dumped it in the trash as if this was jail (Cant even do that in jail), they refused to let me call anyone, refused to give me representation and I learned the other people in there hadnt seen daylight in MONTHS!!! IT WAS TENNESSEE.
Let me take 3 guesses... Moccasin Bend, Mcfarland, or the state hospital? Either that or it was veterans only. TN has notorious mental hospitals. Thank God Mcfarland was shut down! I was a victim of mcfarland
Wowzers!! So sorry to hear that… awful I wonder if it’s too late to file a complaint with the state medical licensing board. Or even just letting your local news stations know… one of them might pick it up and investigate so this doesn’t continue
@@ddlang2514 And where does this mythical organization get the money to pay the skilled labor? And the utilities? And the machines and tools used for diagnostics? And the property taxes? And the business insurance? And the medical malpractice insurance? And the trash removal? And the investors? And the furniture? And the maintenance staff for unskilled labor? And the advertising needed to promote their facility? And the plethora of other things I haven't thought of yet?
@@brkbtjunkiewell no they can remain in the system but not on a payroll obviously because they're not clocking in, it's just that we want them to be guaranteed a job when they are discharged from the hospital stop acting $tup!t
The hospitals also deny people their normal diabetes meds so they can charge you 300% mark up on insulin injections. i watched them purposely make my father's blood sugar go too high, literally gave him koolaid and packs of sugar, just to then demand he take an insulin injection he normal doesnt need. Making his body see saw from high to low, trying to make perfect numbers in a person that never has perfect numbers. Did it to his blood pressure too. refused him his normal medications then made his heart almost stop, he was down to 40 bpm. These poorly trained profit focused medical staff are a joke. The industry is ruined. You get abused for your money, not helped.
God forbid you end up there with real medical problems. I have similar experiences only my medical issues are mostly genetic and autoimmune. They made me VERY sick. The meds they forced me to take made me have seizures. Then they claimed the seizures were all in my head. I have Juvenile Myoclonic Epilepsy... def not faked!
So true!!! As someone who works in mental health, I can agree that some places don’t care about their patients and the reason why I’ve left some companies due to it! I will only work for reputable and honest doctors.
It's a complete nightmare. False imprisonment for profit and legally allowed to do it...abuse in these facilities are extreme and without accountability...Staff will try to provoke a "negative outburst " and then keep them longer...all to bill the insurance.
Yes exactly! Been there done that myself and it was a nightmare! I was treated like I was a criminal. You have to "fake" that you are better and no longer having a problem or you will never get out. It's all about the $$$$$$$$.
Sadly this is very common… “dumping” as well from hospitals to assisted living facilities/nursing homes especially whenever someone doesn’t appear to have any family or friends.
The mental approach is absolutely horrendous, the games they play in your face gaslighting and insulting you, to provoke you while they hold you captive is not talked about enough, can you imagine being abused in a place you went to for help but instead get abused and no one is going to believe you since you’re there for mental health anyway… let’s also talk about how careless they are when it comes to circumstances leading to emotional distress, and how some people are victims of crimes that are criminal matters inducing an emotional distress vs just conveniently stamping someone schizophrenic? I’m happy that she had a support system that aided her with a lawyer often time’s recourses that the poor cannot afford to handle these injustices.
Back in 92 I had my daughter admitted to a hospital for psychiatric issues. I thought they would help her and that I would be able to find out what was going on with her. But nope. They kept her for 30 days which is how long Medicaid would pay. She was 12. (I found out a few years ago that she started having sex at 11 and I still don’t know with whom). So I guess that was her issues and what I needed help getting thru to her about. But they were all about the money. Also, I found out just a couple of years ago that she had no idea why she was there. I feel like such an awful mother but all I wanted was help for her. I will never trust anyone like that again. I saw a documentary on that hospital years later. They only cared about money and helped no one. I can’t remember the name. It was in Charlotte.
Yep, similar happened to me in TN. Same thing, 30 full days cuz thats what insurance covered. My issue was not even mental... i had severe migraines. The hospital was shut down for many violations, some committed against me. First, they left me in seclusion with no water for simply asking a question. I was so dehydrated my lips were cracked and bleeding. Then they kept not feeding me and giving dumb excuses why i couldnt get a tray. They told other patients not to share food with me, but they did anyway. Medicare mandated therapy for us at least 3 times a week. I was there 30 days and we only got 1 therapy session. They were shut down shortly. I wish i would have sued, but i figured they would just lie, and who do u believe... a hospital or a "mental patient"???
You're a pos mother, hope you know that. Your support and nurture would've kept her away from a place and people like that. I bet you're also a single mom
They could make it worse, like let the government run it and have them start milking the taxpayers. They're far more greedy and wasteful. What do they care, not their money.
Doctors, nurses, psychiatrists, nursing home, psychiatric facility, rehab facility, prison, school and daycare staff, social workers and child protective services workers should all be required to wear body cameras while on duty. Period. Too many vulnerable people in those locations who either cannot communicate or advocate for themselves or will never be believed in a he said/she said situation.
Absolutely, 100% accurate. Know someone whose been through this nightmare twice and still hasn't been helped. But both times facility kept them for the maximum time insurance would pay and then discharged them. Problem unaddressed.
It's all about money. If you have insurance, they will keep you as long as your insurance will pay for it. This happened to me as well in 2014. Honestly if I had no insurance at the time, they would have kept me overnight and let me go. Once they take you to the "other" facility, you are locked in and nobody listens to anything you have to say. When you see a doctor, they push and push to get you to say you need to be there. they tell you to go along with the system in order to get out in a reasonable time.
Yep. I saw actual maniac crazy ppl let go in just a day or two, while they held those of us with good insurance 30 days even tho most of us were pretty sane. We just played cards all day and got yelled at occassionally. No therapy even tho medicare required it at least 3 times a week. It was a clear money scam.
I started out with just migraines and mild PTSD from a bad relationship... left 30 days later with severe epilepsy (from needless meds) and severe medical PTSD from maltreatment. 20 years later with serious medical issues i still am afraid and dread going to the dr. I had a literal heart attack and was still afraid to go.
They always keep you the max amount your insurance will pay. In AZ the doc said why should I care about unnecessary charges/costs since I don't pay for Medicare. I had to educate him that WE DO pay for it. Also unnecessary costs raise rates eventually but they don't care. AHs
I've seen a documentary about a couple of these women getting stuck for months and the doctor signing off on all these different mental illnesses and the second the cameras were in the face.The doctor released two of the women and I believe the one the other woman had gotten out already.
Even a 5150 hold is a 3 day max, and it has to be deemed by a "qualified clinician" that she is a danger to herself or the community. I don't think some girl just strolling in voluntarily to re-up her scrip quite meets that bar.
@@VideoGram13 any 'malpractice' case is hard to win. many lawyers would not take something like this on contingency..and most people can't foot the bill to pay for a lawyer out of pocket. she had a better case since she lost her job and benefits....I am permanently disabled due to misdiagnosis of MONO and improper treatment that led to severe harm. I have limited mobility and am mostly home bound....and could never sue because I could never find a competent doctor to testify I was mistreated. they all DENIED i was even injured even though test show the damage...
That's a common practice for Florida using the baker act frivolously. There was a case where a social worker who was arrested for drunk in public was committed for an extended hold and it took exposing the doctor's immigration fraud, history of malpractice, and history of racism to learn it wasn't worth the trouble.
Bingo it's amazing to me that people don't look at where they do business. I think heathcare systems should be required to be not for profit. That being said I live in the area and I know there are not for profit choices in the area.
The "For-Profit" aspect is actually good because it allows the necessary funding to quickly build up the infrastructure to provide enough products & services for a large number of people in a Big City. ...I think the real problem is that they were allowed to keep her against her Will without a Court Order: 1st of all, that is NOT mere Civil: ...It's Criminal. 2nd: Why the fvck do they need _SECURITY_ unless they're doing something _WRONG_ ??? ...The sinister aspect here is that they _KNOW_ what they're doing is _WRONG_ ...which is why they have hired *_Security:_* To protect themselves against the *_Karma_* that they deserve !!!
Trafficking Legalized torture, trafficking Intentional infliction of harm Utterly irresponsible and illegal; violation of every ethical principle in their profession The operators and handlers must be very proud.
@@natas12rm supposedly you get a free lawyer after the 20 days, but yes they largely just go with the alleged doctors. The only person I know of actually agreed to stay a little longer. The facility felts she needed about 1 more week and she agreed. She has repeatedly been a a danger to herself and another time was in for 3 months and was almost sent to the state hospital longer.
@@110311DONTWANTCHANNE idk what you mean? They send you to court after or during the 72 hours they “legally” can kidnap you. They don’t give you an attorney either.
@@wifibum3904 They aren't 'helping', if they are falsely imprisonining people, how many people are they POISONING? How many people are they sexually assaulting after sedation? How many people's pain medication are they switching out with tap water? Billions of dollars of fraud don't just stop at fraud.
...Unfortunately, you cannot do that: ...Corporations have made massive donations over the years to Politicians, who then ensure that their (the Hospital's) best interests are protected. ...Specifically, there a Rule of Legal Procedure that penalizes you if you don't accept a settlement offer. ...That is why most people are forced into settlements (by their own Lawyers). ...But yeah, I definitely agree with your sentiment tho: ...And if you actually do make it to Trial, then it's very likely that you can seek extra, *_Punative damages_* !!!
She is 100% right. It is profit over people in our medical system which is already extremely overpriced for the "care" you get. I had a doctor dismiss me as a patient recently because I rescheduled two appointments in 4 years. When I tried to go to another doctor in that same practice, they wouldn't see me because this %#@ dismissed me and I have a tumor on my hand and I can't go to ER because I can't afford it, so I'm stuck just treating myself and hope it is a benign tumor and not cancer. I have contacted doctors all over where I live, and none of them have new patient openings until January 2025.
I have heard of this kind of thing before. 2 friends (in TX & FL) reported that they were subjected to repeated medical treatments that not only did not help their condition but made it worse. Only to find out that the treatments were expensive and covered by their insurance. One was $800 a day.
I can attest to the state of the medical industry, especially “behavioral health,” in Florida. It’s corrupt, criminal and pathologically inhumane. I was also kept against my will in a facility for a very long time, subjected to all kinds of abuses from both patients and staff, lied on from the top down and very narrowly escaped the system. Much gratitude to the very few rare souls who saw what was happening and risked their careers for me. I will always remember you.
Not her fault. Stories like this have taught me how to protect myself and my family. It’s ok to go to the emergency room. Just be prepared to walk out without the help you are seeking. Don’t ever be admitted to a hospital unless you need immediate surgery.
The ER doesnt get to maliciously imprison people for feeling like their time was wasted. They offer a service to the public, if they dont want the job they should quit. It isnt a fucking TV show, its just a job. Either do the job fairly or quit.
Huntsville Alabama does the same thing the probate judge gets people committed to the local mental health facility and he's also a board member and guess how bad the facility is run because they are on a shoestring budget but they treat you like you're a criminal, you can not have visitors, you can only use the phone at two times a day
“The company that owns the hospital that owns The hospital tells us they never make decisions for financial reasons” right because companies make decisions based on good will and charity
The Respondent by Greg Ellis is a wonderful book on the subject of Mental Health for Profit. The book includes forwards by Alec Baldwin and Johnny Depp. I listened to the book regularly while enduring human torture in Florida. Florida has been ignoring human rights, civil rights and property rights since the 1980’s. I’m a Straight Inc victim and was present when Princess Diana and Nancy Reagan visited the abusive facility.
even so, unless a person is a threat, YOU CANNOT INVOLUNATRY ADMIT THEM. you can let them sign themselves in or refer them to outpatient. i have see ads where they say they can get an appointment within 24 hours outpatient in my area. ERs should have an 'urgent' list for outpatient care.
@@iGame3D it often is for physical conditions, but regular urgent care doesn't handle psych. I have heard of 2 psych urgent cares in my state within 45 minutes of me.
@johnleebass True, and they shoulda referred her appropriately; needing meds adjusted is NOT criteria for involuntary admission into an acute care psych facility.
FL one of the worst states to have mental health issues. You gotta be careful what you say. Something similar to this happened to a veteran in Gainesville through the Gainesville VA, after it happened he ended up committing self offing a couple years later. Held against his will etc. happens all over the country, but this story isn't unique for FL.
I have PTSD from being hospitalized. They said all of this stuff, and as soon as my husband left it was a complete 180. They forced me to take medications, they kept taunting me and saying they didn't know when I would be let out, and when my husband came to visit me I was so drugged out of my mind, I couldn't explain to him what was really happening. They treated me like a prisoner, showering with the door open and no privacy. Horrible, horrible, horrible treatment. Oh, by the way I had to pay for this treatment out of pocket after the fact... it was over $20k. I wish I was joking.
We had a dentist do procedures that were not necessary on my family because they just wanted to charge the insurance. This happens all too often. Everyone should watch their own backs and get someone else to watch with you in case something goes south like this example.
And watch out for dental schools as well. I learned the hard way how to word questions. NOT "Is this procedure necessary?" Yes, but NOT because I needed it - but because the student dentist needed to complete "x" number of that procedure in order to graduate. I had numerous procedures performed there to MY OWN DETRIMENT.
Two years ago I was wrongfully admitted to North Tampa Behavioral Hospital. The ER I visited misdiagnosed me with schizophrenia (which I never even met the criteria for) and I ended up being admitted there. I was actually experiencing something neurological and had two seizures before being admitted, as well as struggling to fall asleep at all for multiple days. When I had my third seizure at the behavioral hospital, the staff all accused me of faking it, despite convulsing, briefly losing consciousness, and even having a nosebleed afterward. They then used my seizure as an excuse to keep me for 7 more days. I needed neurological treatment, not behavioral treatment, but they would not let me leave and I felt like I was gonna die there. After they finally let me go I gradually recovered on my own without even taking the Olanzapine they prescribed me. Needless to say, I left way more traumatized than I was going in. It also left my family with a big financial burden and we're still struggling financially because of the effect this had.
You are surprised but if you have any experience with people who have been institutionalized you would know this happens all the time. Patients with no insurance who need a longer stay are released, while insured patients who don’t need it may get a second hold order after the first one expires.
This is absolutely horrible! The healthcare system is terrible. I've been in medical for over 25 years, and I'm not surprised. Unless she was in a probationary period and her state is an at will state, how were they able to fire her? Theses companies have no compassion for employees anymore.
Yep! That's exactly what happened to me and my son! instead, they didn't put us in a facility and rob or 3 house compound. They stole our entire compound, everything inside and our vehicle, and trafficked us. We refused to comply and sued the whole secret society! They tried to control our narrative or how we survived and even poisoned us for figuring out the transnation organized crime network! omg. Things are not what they seem!
This is unacceptable what they did to her! Florida ranks in the bottom 10 states for mental health care. Overall ranks 41st in the nation for healthcare. Moving here from Kentucky it's been quite the eye opener to see the difference in healthcare here vs. back home. As the saying goes here, it's a sunny place for shady people...
Sure does! I drove my mom to a psychiatrist appointment and waited in the car…. She came running outside😂because they said that they wanted to commit here and would call the ambulance to pick her up😐 We laugh about it now but it’s really scary… apparently she told the doctor that she was extremely depressed and she disclosed on paperwork that there are weapons in the home… they were trying to take her right there on the spot! And of course she had top tier insurance so they couldn’t wait to pad a huge bill😠🙄😤
It's happened to me before. My mom and I went get my medication adjusted at a local mental health facility because I didn't have an appointment lined up with a psychiatrist for a month. The insurance mental health coach suggested it since the idea was to see a psychiatrist sooner. But they ended up keeping me on a hold for five days even though there was no sign I was suicidal.
First, she needs to be given her job back, or her pension, since so much time has passed. I hope she's got legal action working on that. Second, she knows what she's talking about, as do all of us who work in health care. Insurance will not approve a stay unless the charting indicates an approved reason. If Ms. MacKenzie was not a danger to herself or others, there wasn't even cause to Baker Act her. As a clinical social worker, she'd have known exactly what to say and not say. Employees are trained in how to document just enough improvement for the insurance to believe the treatment is helpful, but not so much that they will say the patient is ready for discharge. And insurance is always looking for a reason to end the authorization for a hospital stay. There was all kinda' lying' going on in her chart!
Yep. I once saw they were putting me down as OCD because i wanted to brush my teeth after their nasty meals 🙄 dont dentists say to brush after every meal?
I have seen this at Kaweah Delta Hospital in Frb 2018. A young man was held inpatient for 9 months for "Bipolar Disorder " - He had MediCaid/ Medicare. Truth was, he was Autistic and Gay. I saw a female patient had just been admitted approached by an intake rep and told that they "didn't have any more MediCaid beds." I was inpatient because I had a breakdown after witnessing horrible DV and having to intervene- after I had left a similar situation 5 months prior. I was diagnosed as Bipolar. I was discharged about 7 days later. I asked for a neuropsychological evaluation to be conducted. I don't have Bipolar Disorder. I have CPTSD from experiencing Domestic violence. Truth is- MediCaid will only ever pay out on a primary diagnosis of Bipolar Disorder or Schizophrenia. Their justification is because these conditions require medication management. Imagine NOT truly having either Disorder, being gaslit into believing you do, and finding out later through higher level evaluation- that you don't, and that medications were never necessary, and were causing more harm than good.
The thumbnail is Katee Sackhoff. I'm not doing this anymore. They closed down the mental health facilities in the 70s, One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest. There are drug rehab facilities for drug abuse, I'm still not paying for that.
A friend of mine in delaware, her mother and sister have antagonized her since her early teen years when we first met. Every year she was held against her will because they used it to control her. Sad.
My father was kept in a facility when he was found in a different state lost with dementia. He was there for 21 days, the limit on his insurance policy. As soon as that limit was up, they could not get rid of him fast enough. They would not release him to us until the 21 days had elapsed. It’s all bout the money.
They did the same to a Family friend 6 yrs ago West Michigan. Pine Rest Christian hospital. She was only losing her hkmr,on the street. Not even suicidal. Just asking for housing help. They held her 18 days! Turned her out on the street, average cost I learned for18 days?About $25000. That $25000 then could have rented her a safe apartment for probably 2 to 3 yrs plus. She wasn't then nor now suicidal. Just worried to be Homeless at age 60!!🤬🤬
As a person with who had a family member go through this, I totally agree. I had gotten a lawyer who acknowledged this to be true. Justin Drach was the lawyers name.
This is America..profits over people ..always and without exception
Capitalism?
It happens all over the world. Not just in America.
Especially if you have good insurance 😮
@@ManChan-w5poligarchy dressed up as capitalism
You think america is bad😂😂😂😂. You greenhorn.
She was harmed and not benefitted from being there. They wrecked her life, made her lose her job and reason for moving, gave her PTSD and robbed her insurance for thousands. They should be in jail.
You’re ass! This nuts telling you what you want to hear!
They all play victim and the blaming game !!
She looks crazy ! Dead eyes 👀
Agreed. Nothing will ever come if it. Guaranteed.
Part and parcel of democracy, she voted for this or her sister did.
🎉😂🎉
@@Babu-kr3cr Bon Voyage Elliott Abrams Apes 🔥
I AM for Hire
I was at Brandon regional down the road from Tampa, I needed help and instead I was held against my will, in unacceptable conditions, there was another patient that kept walking into my room, disturbing me, then another patient shit all over my bathroom, like a poop grenade went off, never got cleaned for day and a half, had to have an outside source call in to get it fixed. The doc? Absolute shit head that literally never listened to any of my actual issues and blamed something entirely different. Gave me ptsd, luckily for me I had vacation to use or ide probably have been fired as well. These places are for human life, they are for profit, and it’s disgusting and unacceptable
I am a victim too! This happened to me 20 years ago! HOLD THESE PEOPLE, HOSPITALS, ETC accountable! I will never ever be able to seek healthcare again without first taking measures to prevent a panic attack. It ruined my trust in healthcare. It’s so vulnerable too because sometimes people are under the impression that patient automatically is wrong and facility is automatically right….
Same… I’m also traumatized so bad I didn’t go in for even a probably fractured foot and it’s stuck with a ball of scar tissue now. You know what though? Worth it. It’s scary to be a single woman with no one around. I didn’t watch it but I’m assuming she was alone when this happened? There’s a clear pattern :/
Same thing happened to me in 2010 and I was not able to find an attorney to help me at the time.
The hospital is in sun Valley California and it's called Pacifica hospital.
🥱🥱🥱🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄!!!!
@@mineralbunny8736you got dead eyes 👀 in your profile picture should look up what that means! Ok 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴
@@winning3329omg your crazy 🤪 you hate to admit that ok 👌
They falsely imprisoned her for sure. How awful that she was fired! American medicine is messed up beyond belief.
getting fired over a medical emergency is illegal, I hope she sued her x employer as well!!
@@anniesshenanigans3815 Great point! I hope she got a large settlement because it takes a lot of courage to overcome the stigma and stand up against this as well as tell her employer about it, notwithstanding the news.
@@anniesshenanigans3815 probably fired for job abandonment, but sure there is more to that story than we are told. Its insanely hard to get fired in a government job.
Yeah there was another case of 286 people held in a facility for several months somewhere and lawyers and sheriff's had to come to get them out. They were charged with frivolous billing and basically just used them as bodies to bill and never needed services.
@@PoorMansAlmanacNews and what happened in that csae? what city/ dates? outcomes?
In 1996, I was held in a place like that for 3 days just because my bf and I were arguing and someone called the cops. It was terrifying cuz there were seriously ill people in there. I’ve never been suicidal, but after that experience, even if I did “need help” I’ll never go to a place like that again.
🙄
It happened to me too. Just know that you are not alone, so many of us are victims in its time that these facilities own up to the abuse that they routinely inflict and charge for.
They aren't "ill". They are traumatized abused and profited off of just like you were.
I’m sorry…I had a similar experience as as yours years ago when my narcissistic mother called the cops on me to have me arrested and committed, all for telling her in an argument that she should’ve aborted me. The cops read my journals in the psych-ward intake area as I helplessly watched. I was yelled at by a female doctor to strip naked because I left my underwear on. I had to walk the hallways with my butt hanging out of the H gown for all to see. The bathroom had a huge gap between to door and frame so anyone standing there or walking by would see you going to the bathroom. I was accused of wanting to become a prostitute. I was given no food for my one night and one day stay. I was only released after a psychiatrist lectured me to stop giving my mom (abusive narc) such a hard time and being terrible to her. I had some suicidal ideation that I did not talk about with anyone (still do), but was really wanting to die even more after that horrible experience. It must be mind blowing how many other people share this experience.
@@threefreaksonaleash6619 I wrote and deleted three replies cuz it’s so horrible what can I possibly say, I’m sorry nobody was there to protect you. Mothers aren’t supposed to treat you that way. Facilities like that place shouldn’t exist.
Hilarious, they keep people who are not ill to profit off of, meanwhile, they refuse to help people who actually need help, and release them. All praise the MONEY GODS!!!
Financial Divination is their Alchemy that Fates us all. Spherical Cows producing that Nitrogen Boom Boom and Genetically Inferior Grains for biofuels. Science died when the Secular movement started diddling the child heirs with this DEI crap stealing the nations. If usurpers cannot take a hit at accredited scientists ie the throne because its too damn militarized with obfuscation then their attacks will always fall unto the cradle, that's Socrates right there. A man takes criticism to protect the children, and they learn by the vestiges of waste thereof.
The irony!
No one needs that kind of "help."
Women and democracy IS DEMOCRACY!
PART AND PARCEL!
🎉😂🎉😂🎉
This is important to know about. The medical industry is a business, they will charge as much as they can
The best you can do is make sure you go to a non profit healthcare system.
If you have insurance and mental health problems, dont seek help. Thats my take away from these stories, she isnt the only one. One psychiatrist even had commitment orders already signed, to “save time”, as he put it. Profit and healthcare are bad bedmates.
Illinois nurse here. I am disgusted with how our Healthcare system and insurance companies function. They 100% do not care for your wellbeing. They care about the bottom line. That is why we never have enough staff. Don't let them lead you to believe there is a shortage of nurses! Many years of continued understaffing by management is causing nurses to avoid working at certain jobs. Nursing homes are some of the worst offenders. Not to mention the cost passed down to the consumer! My recent 6 hour ED visit consisting of an abdominal CT, CBC, CMP, Urinalysis, a 1000ml bag of 0.9 normal saline and a 1x dose of IV push morphine cost over 17,000$! Thankfully I'm insured! You wonder where that money goes? Look up how much hospital and Healthcare facilities CEOs make annually!
🎯
an ephemerial theoretical bottom line. written by A.I . lol
I have had the same thing happen to me. I was at Largo Medical Center - Indian Rocks campus, and a local doctor from Largo manipulated the wording of the conditions of my release under the Baker Act. I apparently was not ready to leave according to him. The local drug addicts and homeless, some of whom actually needed help, were booted in less than 36 hours. I on the other hand having insurance at the time, was kept for a full 5 days. The actual crazy in that unit was making me crazy. After I was discharged, the bill from the hospital to my insurance said I had a private room. There was nothing private about having some stranger stare at you from a bed 6 feet away from you. Now I would rather mentally suffer than to seek "help".
private does mean no other patient. 2 beds is usually referred to as semi private
@@110311DONTWANTCHANNEthis is all you have to contribute to the conversation? Seriously 😳. Totally missed the point.
5 days? You got lucky. My insurance paid for 30 😫
Yep, also kidnapped because I checked myself into The VETERAN'S ER for a serious health scare, and they needed to do a biopsy for Cncer. They decided while I wait for the results they should dump me in the asylum "just so in case the results came back positive." They had no oversight in there, the nasty ghetto nurse serached the contests of my purse than dumped it in the trash as if this was jail (Cant even do that in jail), they refused to let me call anyone, refused to give me representation and I learned the other people in there hadnt seen daylight in MONTHS!!! IT WAS TENNESSEE.
Did you get a lawyer?
Let me take 3 guesses... Moccasin Bend, Mcfarland, or the state hospital? Either that or it was veterans only. TN has notorious mental hospitals. Thank God Mcfarland was shut down! I was a victim of mcfarland
Wowzers!! So sorry to hear that… awful
I wonder if it’s too late to file a complaint with the state medical licensing board. Or even just letting your local news stations know… one of them might pick it up and investigate so this doesn’t continue
How long would she have been held if her family did not have a lawyer?
Profit should not be involved in healthcare period.
Really? Then how do the doctors, nurses, and other medical staff get paid?
🎯🎯🎯
@@thatguyrich9822 They still get paid even though the organization is non-profit. Non- profit doesn’t mean the skilled labor is free.
@@ddlang2514 And where does this mythical organization get the money to pay the skilled labor? And the utilities? And the machines and tools used for diagnostics? And the property taxes? And the business insurance? And the medical malpractice insurance? And the trash removal? And the investors? And the furniture? And the maintenance staff for unskilled labor? And the advertising needed to promote their facility? And the plethora of other things I haven't thought of yet?
It should be illegal to fire someone when they are in a hospital or getting medical care.
So a person goes into a coma for 6 years should stay on the payroll? 😂
@brkbtjunkie That’s obviously not what they meant
@@brkbtjunkiewell no they can remain in the system but not on a payroll obviously because they're not clocking in, it's just that we want them to be guaranteed a job when they are discharged from the hospital stop acting $tup!t
@@brkbtjunkiethat "joke" didn't hit huh? That was moronic😂.. straight Idiocracy with no chaser! 🙄
Why? Nobody has the “right” to a particular job…Maybe there was cause we didn’t hear about..
The hospitals also deny people their normal diabetes meds so they can charge you 300% mark up on insulin injections. i watched them purposely make my father's blood sugar go too high, literally gave him koolaid and packs of sugar, just to then demand he take an insulin injection he normal doesnt need. Making his body see saw from high to low, trying to make perfect numbers in a person that never has perfect numbers. Did it to his blood pressure too. refused him his normal medications then made his heart almost stop, he was down to 40 bpm. These poorly trained profit focused medical staff are a joke. The industry is ruined. You get abused for your money, not helped.
God forbid you end up there with real medical problems. I have similar experiences only my medical issues are mostly genetic and autoimmune. They made me VERY sick. The meds they forced me to take made me have seizures. Then they claimed the seizures were all in my head. I have Juvenile Myoclonic Epilepsy... def not faked!
it even happens in non profit hospitals. a woman in NY was held and given anti psychotics when she only had the flu.
So true!!! As someone who works in mental health, I can agree that some places don’t care about their patients and the reason why I’ve left some companies due to it! I will only work for reputable and honest doctors.
THEY ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MENTAL HEALTH PATIENTS PERIOD REGULATE THEM BETTER
I was abused at one now I suffer from long term mental illness
It's a complete nightmare. False imprisonment for profit and legally allowed to do it...abuse in these facilities are extreme and without accountability...Staff will try to provoke a "negative outburst " and then keep them longer...all to bill the insurance.
yea all you have to to is cry in frustration and begging to get out and they consider that enough to keep you longer.
Yes exactly! Been there done that myself and it was a nightmare! I was treated like I was a criminal. You have to "fake" that you are better and no longer having a problem or you will never get out. It's all about the $$$$$$$$.
And throw you in seclusion for just breathing 🙄
Sadly this is very common… “dumping” as well from hospitals to assisted living facilities/nursing homes especially whenever someone doesn’t appear to have any family or friends.
If they did nothing wrong, why did they settle?
Because they know that they did something wrong
The mental approach is absolutely horrendous, the games they play in your face gaslighting and insulting you, to provoke you while they hold you captive is not talked about enough, can you imagine being abused in a place you went to for help but instead get abused and no one is going to believe you since you’re there for mental health anyway… let’s also talk about how careless they are when it comes to circumstances leading to emotional distress, and how some people are victims of crimes that are criminal matters inducing an emotional distress vs just conveniently stamping someone schizophrenic? I’m happy that she had a support system that aided her with a lawyer often time’s recourses that the poor cannot afford to handle these injustices.
Back in 92 I had my daughter admitted to a hospital for psychiatric issues. I thought they would help her and that I would be able to find out what was going on with her. But nope. They kept her for 30 days which is how long Medicaid would pay. She was 12. (I found out a few years ago that she started having sex at 11 and I still don’t know with whom). So I guess that was her issues and what I needed help getting thru to her about. But they were all about the money. Also, I found out just a couple of years ago that she had no idea why she was there. I feel like such an awful mother but all I wanted was help for her. I will never trust anyone like that again. I saw a documentary on that hospital years later. They only cared about money and helped no one. I can’t remember the name. It was in Charlotte.
Yep, similar happened to me in TN. Same thing, 30 full days cuz thats what insurance covered. My issue was not even mental... i had severe migraines.
The hospital was shut down for many violations, some committed against me. First, they left me in seclusion with no water for simply asking a question. I was so dehydrated my lips were cracked and bleeding. Then they kept not feeding me and giving dumb excuses why i couldnt get a tray. They told other patients not to share food with me, but they did anyway.
Medicare mandated therapy for us at least 3 times a week. I was there 30 days and we only got 1 therapy session.
They were shut down shortly. I wish i would have sued, but i figured they would just lie, and who do u believe... a hospital or a "mental patient"???
You're a pos mother, hope you know that.
Your support and nurture would've kept her away from a place and people like that. I bet you're also a single mom
I work behind the scenes and know this goes on all the time.
Health care for profit . What can go wrong???
They could make it worse, like let the government run it and have them start milking the taxpayers. They're far more greedy and wasteful. What do they care, not their money.
^oh boy let’s do nothing then. Don’t try to fix it, just pray to sky daddy you don’t have the misfortune of being held against your will.
Doctors, nurses, psychiatrists, nursing home, psychiatric facility, rehab facility, prison, school and daycare staff, social workers and child protective services workers should all be required to wear body cameras while on duty. Period. Too many vulnerable people in those locations who either cannot communicate or advocate for themselves or will never be believed in a he said/she said situation.
Made an example of my Dr, put him in prison for 5 years for Kidnapping. Also lost his medical lisence for life. $150,000 lawsuite.
Awesome 👍🏼😎
they keep you there until your insurance doesn’t pay anymore in my experience.
Absolutely, 100% accurate. Know someone whose been through this nightmare twice and still hasn't been helped. But both times facility kept them for the maximum time insurance would pay and then discharged them. Problem unaddressed.
It's all about money. If you have insurance, they will keep you as long as your insurance will pay for it. This happened to me as well in 2014. Honestly if I had no insurance at the time, they would have kept me overnight and let me go. Once they take you to the "other" facility, you are locked in and nobody listens to anything you have to say. When you see a doctor, they push and push to get you to say you need to be there. they tell you to go along with the system in order to get out in a reasonable time.
Yep. I saw actual maniac crazy ppl let go in just a day or two, while they held those of us with good insurance 30 days even tho most of us were pretty sane. We just played cards all day and got yelled at occassionally. No therapy even tho medicare required it at least 3 times a week. It was a clear money scam.
I've been in a couple. They definitely do keep you there for the money. And in the process of staying there you get ptsd.
I started out with just migraines and mild PTSD from a bad relationship... left 30 days later with severe epilepsy (from needless meds) and severe medical PTSD from maltreatment. 20 years later with serious medical issues i still am afraid and dread going to the dr. I had a literal heart attack and was still afraid to go.
They always keep you the max amount your insurance will pay. In AZ the doc said why should I care about unnecessary charges/costs since I don't pay for Medicare. I had to educate him that WE DO pay for it.
Also unnecessary costs raise rates eventually but they don't care. AHs
I've seen a documentary about a couple of these women getting stuck for months and the doctor signing off on all these different mental illnesses and the second the cameras were in the face.The doctor released two of the women and I believe the one the other woman had gotten out already.
Even a 5150 hold is a 3 day max, and it has to be deemed by a "qualified clinician" that she is a danger to herself or the community. I don't think some girl just strolling in voluntarily to re-up her scrip quite meets that bar.
believe me they will do it to anyone mentioning anything about meds or dying. They did it to me too.
laws vary by state, in my state they can hold you for 20 days without letting you see a judge, and weekends don't count
They literally just make stuff up to keep you past the hold. Esp if you have good insurance!
Which is why she got a couple of mils out of that ordeal. It's always wise to sue and get as much money as possible
@@VideoGram13 any 'malpractice' case is hard to win. many lawyers would not take something like this on contingency..and most people can't foot the bill to pay for a lawyer out of pocket. she had a better case since she lost her job and benefits....I am permanently disabled due to misdiagnosis of MONO and improper treatment that led to severe harm. I have limited mobility and am mostly home bound....and could never sue because I could never find a competent doctor to testify I was mistreated. they all DENIED i was even injured even though test show the damage...
This has always been the case. As long as its profitable for you to stay, they'll be happy to keep you.
That's a common practice for Florida using the baker act frivolously. There was a case where a social worker who was arrested for drunk in public was committed for an extended hold and it took exposing the doctor's immigration fraud, history of malpractice, and history of racism to learn it wasn't worth the trouble.
No insurance, u get an aspirin and a swift kick in the ass then dropped off at a bus station. Not a joke, this is real
Lakeland Regional in Lakeland FL did this to me for five days. It’s awful her job fired her over this.
A for profit mental health hospital-what could go wrong? ANY for profit hospital for that matter.
Bingo it's amazing to me that people don't look at where they do business. I think heathcare systems should be required to be not for profit. That being said I live in the area and I know there are not for profit choices in the area.
The "For-Profit" aspect is actually good because it allows the necessary funding to quickly build up the infrastructure to provide enough products & services for a large number of people in a Big City. ...I think the real problem is that they were allowed to keep her against her Will without a Court Order: 1st of all, that is NOT mere Civil: ...It's Criminal. 2nd: Why the fvck do they need _SECURITY_ unless they're doing something _WRONG_ ??? ...The sinister aspect here is that they _KNOW_ what they're doing is _WRONG_ ...which is why they have hired *_Security:_* To protect themselves against the *_Karma_* that they deserve !!!
Trafficking
Legalized torture, trafficking
Intentional infliction of harm
Utterly irresponsible and illegal; violation of every ethical principle in their profession
The operators and handlers must be very proud.
this is very common, and if you don't have access to a lawyer, you have no rights. my state can hold you 20 days without letting you see a judge
The judge just rubber stamps the doctors recommendation anyway. Hello?
@@natas12rm supposedly you get a free lawyer after the 20 days, but yes they largely just go with the alleged doctors. The only person I know of actually agreed to stay a little longer. The facility felts she needed about 1 more week and she agreed. She has repeatedly been a a danger to herself and another time was in for 3 months and was almost sent to the state hospital longer.
@@110311DONTWANTCHANNE idk what you mean? They send you to court after or during the 72 hours they “legally” can kidnap you. They don’t give you an attorney either.
Patient,:Doc, how bad is it.
Doctor: Yes. I need you to get this treatment.
Patient: Whats wrong?
Doctor: I need to pay off my golf course membership.
It happened to me too for 7 days. It’s a truly evil and corrupt mental health system. Pure wickedness
yep usually 7 is the amount insurance covers… they hold you until you aren’t profit anymore..
As my mama used to say when it comes to medical providers..."Someone needs to make their boat payments!" 💁🏽♀️
Sue the place into bankruptcy, and this will never happen again!
So other people can't get help? Great option.
@@wifibum3904 They aren't 'helping', if they are falsely imprisonining people, how many people are they POISONING? How many people are they sexually assaulting after sedation? How many people's pain medication are they switching out with tap water? Billions of dollars of fraud don't just stop at fraud.
...Unfortunately, you cannot do that: ...Corporations have made massive donations over the years to Politicians, who then ensure that their (the Hospital's) best interests are protected. ...Specifically, there a Rule of Legal Procedure that penalizes you if you don't accept a settlement offer. ...That is why most people are forced into settlements (by their own Lawyers). ...But yeah, I definitely agree with your sentiment tho: ...And if you actually do make it to Trial, then it's very likely that you can seek extra, *_Punative damages_* !!!
Im glad her family hired a lawyer.
She is 100% right. It is profit over people in our medical system which is already extremely overpriced for the "care" you get. I had a doctor dismiss me as a patient recently because I rescheduled two appointments in 4 years. When I tried to go to another doctor in that same practice, they wouldn't see me because this %#@ dismissed me and I have a tumor on my hand and I can't go to ER because I can't afford it, so I'm stuck just treating myself and hope it is a benign tumor and not cancer. I have contacted doctors all over where I live, and none of them have new patient openings until January 2025.
I have heard of this kind of thing before. 2 friends (in TX & FL) reported that they were subjected to repeated medical treatments that not only did not help their condition but made it worse. Only to find out that the treatments were expensive and covered by their insurance. One was $800 a day.
I can attest to the state of the medical industry, especially “behavioral health,” in Florida. It’s corrupt, criminal and pathologically inhumane. I was also kept against my will in a facility for a very long time, subjected to all kinds of abuses from both patients and staff, lied on from the top down and very narrowly escaped the system. Much gratitude to the very few rare souls who saw what was happening and risked their careers for me. I will always remember you.
Her first mistake was going to the ER for something that wasn't an emergency
Not her fault. Stories like this have taught me how to protect myself and my family. It’s ok to go to the emergency room. Just be prepared to walk out without the help you are seeking. Don’t ever be admitted to a hospital unless you need immediate surgery.
The ER doesnt get to maliciously imprison people for feeling like their time was wasted. They offer a service to the public, if they dont want the job they should quit. It isnt a fucking TV show, its just a job. Either do the job fairly or quit.
Glad you know you're into kidnapping as long as there is a half-a55 excuse
If you have a medical condition and your treatment isn't working, that could be an emergency
@@LibbyRal Serotonin Syndrome is no joke.
Huntsville Alabama does the same thing the probate judge gets people committed to the local mental health facility and he's also a board member and guess how bad the facility is run because they are on a shoestring budget but they treat you like you're a criminal, you can not have visitors, you can only use the phone at two times a day
Yes it's Florida they use the baker act for profit
“The company that owns the hospital that owns The hospital tells us they never make decisions for financial reasons” right because companies make decisions based on good will and charity
What a nightmare! 😭😭😭
This happens to thousands EVERY YEAR.... THEY KEEP DOING THIS FOR MONEY. ITS HELL ON OUR TAX DIME
The Respondent by Greg Ellis is a wonderful book on the subject of Mental Health for Profit.
The book includes forwards by Alec Baldwin and Johnny Depp.
I listened to the book regularly while enduring human torture in Florida.
Florida has been ignoring human rights, civil rights and property rights since the 1980’s.
I’m a Straight Inc victim and was present when Princess Diana and Nancy Reagan visited the abusive facility.
(ER NP here) ERs do not "adjust" (manage) patients' medications, especially psychiatric, unless they are admitted
even so, unless a person is a threat, YOU CANNOT INVOLUNATRY ADMIT THEM. you can let them sign themselves in or refer them to outpatient. i have see ads where they say they can get an appointment within 24 hours outpatient in my area. ERs should have an 'urgent' list for outpatient care.
@@110311DONTWANTCHANNE 💯
People think ER is like Urgent Care, where you walk in, get a prescription, walk out.
@@iGame3D it often is for physical conditions, but regular urgent care doesn't handle psych. I have heard of 2 psych urgent cares in my state within 45 minutes of me.
@johnleebass True, and they shoulda referred her appropriately; needing meds adjusted is NOT criteria for involuntary admission into an acute care psych facility.
Imagine the people that can’t afford a lawyer 😭
FL one of the worst states to have mental health issues. You gotta be careful what you say. Something similar to this happened to a veteran in Gainesville through the Gainesville VA, after it happened he ended up committing self offing a couple years later. Held against his will etc. happens all over the country, but this story isn't unique for FL.
Very good report
I have PTSD from being hospitalized. They said all of this stuff, and as soon as my husband left it was a complete 180. They forced me to take medications, they kept taunting me and saying they didn't know when I would be let out, and when my husband came to visit me I was so drugged out of my mind, I couldn't explain to him what was really happening. They treated me like a prisoner, showering with the door open and no privacy. Horrible, horrible, horrible treatment. Oh, by the way I had to pay for this treatment out of pocket after the fact... it was over $20k. I wish I was joking.
Unreal....they should do a full investigation into this sketchy place...God knows how many other people were victim to this
We had a dentist do procedures that were not necessary on my family because they just wanted to charge the insurance. This happens all too often. Everyone should watch their own backs and get someone else to watch with you in case something goes south like this example.
And watch out for dental schools as well. I learned the hard way how to word questions. NOT "Is this procedure necessary?" Yes, but NOT because I needed it - but because the student dentist needed to complete "x" number of that procedure in order to graduate. I had numerous procedures performed there to MY OWN DETRIMENT.
And you wonder why people didn’t trust doctors in 2020? 😂
Not the same thing MAGAt.
what's a doctor, all I've been seeing are pa's and nps
Two years ago I was wrongfully admitted to North Tampa Behavioral Hospital. The ER I visited misdiagnosed me with schizophrenia (which I never even met the criteria for) and I ended up being admitted there. I was actually experiencing something neurological and had two seizures before being admitted, as well as struggling to fall asleep at all for multiple days. When I had my third seizure at the behavioral hospital, the staff all accused me of faking it, despite convulsing, briefly losing consciousness, and even having a nosebleed afterward. They then used my seizure as an excuse to keep me for 7 more days. I needed neurological treatment, not behavioral treatment, but they would not let me leave and I felt like I was gonna die there. After they finally let me go I gradually recovered on my own without even taking the Olanzapine they prescribed me. Needless to say, I left way more traumatized than I was going in. It also left my family with a big financial burden and we're still struggling financially because of the effect this had.
You are surprised but if you have any experience with people who have been institutionalized you would know this happens all the time. Patients with no insurance who need a longer stay are released, while insured patients who don’t need it may get a second hold order after the first one expires.
This is all to common . Healthcare needs big change and compensation to the many many victims and their families.
We need to help sue and get justice for everyone thats Been through this
Oh, what happens when those who are supposed to help and protect you becomes your predator, when money is involved!
The real miracle here: people look up from whatever dumb stupor they were in and ask “what _ever_ could've caused this mass shooting?” 🥴
This is why I rarely go to the doctor. I’ve had multiple family members who go for something minor and end up getting sicker after going.
And they let the homeless or uninsured out in 24 hrs
No accountability EVER.
This is absolutely horrible! The healthcare system is terrible. I've been in medical for over 25 years, and I'm not surprised. Unless she was in a probationary period and her state is an at will state, how were they able to fire her? Theses companies have no compassion for employees anymore.
Have you seen the film "I Care A Lot"? It's a bit absurd, but not divorced from all facts.
Yep! That's exactly what happened to me and my son! instead, they didn't put us in a facility and rob or 3 house compound. They stole our entire compound, everything inside and our vehicle, and trafficked us. We refused to comply and sued the whole secret society! They tried to control our narrative or how we survived and even poisoned us for figuring out the transnation organized crime network! omg. Things are not what they seem!
This is absolutely disgusting and shocking. So sorry that this lady went through this shocking experience.
This is unacceptable what they did to her! Florida ranks in the bottom 10 states for mental health care. Overall ranks 41st in the nation for healthcare. Moving here from Kentucky it's been quite the eye opener to see the difference in healthcare here vs. back home. As the saying goes here, it's a sunny place for shady people...
This is disgusting!! They ruined her life! Cost her her job. Wow. I have no words other than despicable
That happened to me at largo medical center. I was kept for 5 days even though i was not a danger to myself or others. Its all a money thing.
I ALWAYS ask for a brake down right from the gate of the bill so i can go over every little thing with my state insurance 😂 i never get messed with
Almost happened to me - but I had a lawyer. Cancel your mental health insurance
Typical thinking of someone with a Jew flag
This happens ALL THE TIME !!!
Sure does! I drove my mom to a psychiatrist appointment and waited in the car…. She came running outside😂because they said that they wanted to commit here and would call the ambulance to pick her up😐
We laugh about it now but it’s really scary… apparently she told the doctor that she was extremely depressed and she disclosed on paperwork that there are weapons in the home… they were trying to take her right there on the spot! And of course she had top tier insurance so they couldn’t wait to pad a huge bill😠🙄😤
Want out of those profit prisons? Cancel you insurance. It works.
That's why they don't give you phone calls.
It always blows my mind how harmful “help” can be sometimes.
It's happened to me before. My mom and I went get my medication adjusted at a local mental health facility because I didn't have an appointment lined up with a psychiatrist for a month. The insurance mental health coach suggested it since the idea was to see a psychiatrist sooner. But they ended up keeping me on a hold for five days even though there was no sign I was suicidal.
I thought this would be only for private facilities, but I hate it's with corporate means. It's horrible enough to have to get treatment.
Happened to me. No one believes you because "youre just crazy"
First, she needs to be given her job back, or her pension, since so much time has passed. I hope she's got legal action working on that.
Second, she knows what she's talking about, as do all of us who work in health care. Insurance will not approve a stay unless the charting indicates an approved reason. If Ms. MacKenzie was not a danger to herself or others, there wasn't even cause to Baker Act her. As a clinical social worker, she'd have known exactly what to say and not say. Employees are trained in how to document just enough improvement for the insurance to believe the treatment is helpful, but not so much that they will say the patient is ready for discharge. And insurance is always looking for a reason to end the authorization for a hospital stay. There was all kinda' lying' going on in her chart!
Yep. I once saw they were putting me down as OCD because i wanted to brush my teeth after their nasty meals 🙄 dont dentists say to brush after every meal?
@@AliciaGuitarDentists recommend brushing your teeth twice a day, not after every meal, unless maybe you have metal braces on your teeth.
@@TheBOG3 you'd make a great utilization review manipulator.
I have seen this at Kaweah Delta Hospital in Frb 2018.
A young man was held inpatient for 9 months for
"Bipolar Disorder " - He had MediCaid/ Medicare.
Truth was, he was Autistic and Gay.
I saw a female patient had just been admitted approached by an intake rep and told that they "didn't have any more MediCaid beds."
I was inpatient because I had a breakdown after witnessing horrible DV and having to intervene- after I had left a similar situation 5 months prior. I was diagnosed as Bipolar. I was discharged about 7 days later. I asked for a neuropsychological evaluation to be conducted. I don't have Bipolar Disorder. I have CPTSD from experiencing Domestic violence. Truth is- MediCaid will only ever pay out on a primary diagnosis of Bipolar Disorder or Schizophrenia. Their justification is because these conditions require medication management. Imagine NOT truly having either Disorder, being gaslit into believing you do, and finding out later through higher level evaluation- that you don't, and that medications were never necessary, and were causing more harm than good.
But they wouldn’t take my daughter for heroin addiction because she has no money.
She is in need of rehab, not a mental health stay.
@@wifibum3904where do you think rehab is 😂
She's not the first unfortunately and won't be the last. God bless
This same type of scam was just exposed in Michigan too
The thumbnail is Katee Sackhoff. I'm not doing this anymore. They closed down the mental health facilities in the 70s, One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest. There are drug rehab facilities for drug abuse, I'm still not paying for that.
There are still lots of mental hospitals. Are you trying to say she is lying and was in a drug rehab?
A friend of mine in delaware, her mother and sister have antagonized her since her early teen years when we first met. Every year she was held against her will because they used it to control her. Sad.
My father was kept in a facility when he was found in a different state lost with dementia. He was there for 21 days, the limit on his insurance policy. As soon as that limit was up, they could not get rid of him fast enough. They would not release him to us until the 21 days had elapsed. It’s all bout the money.
The statement from the hospital must have been written by a politician or a cop.
This isn’t the first time this has happened in Florida
i hope she can sue and get all that money the insurance paid BACK, but she gets to keep it herself.
There was a high school in Hancock NY that did the same thing. It was shut down after a federal investigation.
They did the same to a Family friend 6 yrs ago West Michigan. Pine Rest Christian hospital. She was only losing her hkmr,on the street. Not even suicidal. Just asking for housing help. They held her 18 days! Turned her out on the street, average cost I learned for18 days?About $25000. That $25000 then could have rented her a safe apartment for probably 2 to 3 yrs plus. She wasn't then nor now suicidal. Just worried to be Homeless at age 60!!🤬🤬
As a person with who had a family member go through this, I totally agree.
I had gotten a lawyer who acknowledged this to be true.
Justin Drach was the lawyers name.