RotMG: The Realm Rework is Coming

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  • @TSPage
    @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +32

    After some discussion and feedback. I would like to add to the idea of limiting access to areas of the realm based on power level (8:15) I think the mechanic should only apply to new players. (ex. Below 10 stars)
    This idea is to make the new player experience more friendly and to prevent them from getting rolled before they understand the gameplay loop. It should not restrict how an experienced player plays.

    • @FaortLecring
      @FaortLecring ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It will very much rescrict how an experienced player maining only one class plays.

    • @FaortLecring
      @FaortLecring ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No but it actually feels extremely condescending. New players constantly meet bosses they can't pass and they still try over and over again because its not interesting to do what you already can to them. And as a guy who leads a guild of mainly very new players, none of them would like such a change. Advicing not to go to areas - ok, but restricting is nonsense, especially with how hard it might be for new players to reach star because they usually run only a couple of specific "easier" classes, they wont be able to pass it for a long time (some of the most active players in my guild are

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FaortLecring Honestly really fair point. Part of this though would be allowing progression if they do have a certain power level. So if they are 5 stars with an 8/8 they would have 0 restrictions if that makes sense.

    • @Hoowwwww
      @Hoowwwww ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TSPage i play this game because of challenge, not because i get babby sited, to me the realm rework sounds like a boring forced tutorial.. very bad idea
      i want to do hard content the way i want, i want to challenge my skills, DECA should stop trying to limit that
      they approach the problem the wrong way imo
      look at Path of Exile, i can do red map at lvl 70 with bad gear, and that's why this game is awesome, because you create the challenge for your self, the game is designed in a way that the progression feel natural yet you still have the choice
      DECA should do something similar
      guide the player to the content they should do, but don't restrict them
      quests could be split in 2, "recomanded for power level, and current threats of each zone", so now i can pick what difficulty i want
      - i am new, i'll stick to what is recomanded to me
      - i am experienced, i think this mid tier is good enough for me
      - i am a NPE, i want to challenge the hardest content of the game with my own skills, this danger zone quest seems good for me
      beacon could be colored so player can identify where THEY WANT to go, and WHAT THEY WANT to do
      ROTMG is about challenge and accesibility, not about baby sitting and restriction...

    • @ChimpWhisperer
      @ChimpWhisperer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not a bad idea, but I don't think noobs should be barred from entering veteran biomes. It should just be a warning on the notifications tab if you enter a biome way above your power level, but you should still be allowed to enter any area. Additionally, this warning could be disabled in settings so you aren't annoyed on every PPE.

  • @arrowsrotmg2502
    @arrowsrotmg2502 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Very well put together video! I’d be pretty speculative on the biome restrictions dependent on the character power level. Or if they do implement any restriction it’ll be only so that you can’t immediately tp to the hardest biome on a fresh character. This update still has a lot potential that hasn’t been released and I’m super excited!

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally agree! Peep the pinned comment as I’ve pulled back a little on the initial take.

    • @robbierotten2024
      @robbierotten2024 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as they give a “difficulty warning” of kinds, it shouldn’t matter. That way new players don’t teleport to some place completely impossible for them to fight in

    • @PlasmaPulsade
      @PlasmaPulsade 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      awsome

  • @TSPage
    @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you have any questions about changes or ideas I discussed, I read every comment and will respond!

  • @alistaircookie6927
    @alistaircookie6927 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'd love to say gatekeeping the higher end content in the realm behind power level is a good idea, but for a veteran player, I think that takes a lot of fun out of the game. A lot of the current meta for PPE style gameplay at least is becoming skilled enough to handle the end game content without good gear or good stats in order to get some decent equips before going back to max. I think removing the option for new characters to skill check late game content in hopes of quicker progression ultimately nullifies risk for better players and only adds extra hours of what will quickly become more stale garbage if done incorrectly.

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree to a large part, and I don't think the gatekeeping should be excessive. A 0/8 with t0 gear shouldn't be able to access the adept biomes imo, but once they hit level 20 with like t3's (power level like 25 or something, then they can progress) then make the veteran section something like power level 40 (very reasonable equips and can still be 0/8). With how difficult the veteran section will be I think that fresh 20's with 0 equips will only be able to leech.
      Edit: Or they could make it to where only beacons are power level locked so that you have to travel to deeper regions.

  • @yaboicdog
    @yaboicdog ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rather than omit them from entering an area not recommended to them via the power level scale there should be a warning. Say like if each new biome could display it's name and power level upon entering and display an additional warning sign next to its power level if your's is below that.
    Edit: it could appear in a similar box to the tips

    • @yaboicdog
      @yaboicdog ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe even go as far to leave a constant blinking warning sign on the edge of your screen when in X biome/dungeon

  • @thomasbenjafield1050
    @thomasbenjafield1050 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    great ideas and points shared by many in the community. Thank you for platforming this across to the developers to potentially have the ideas heard

  • @mathician977
    @mathician977 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this update is gonna be so good I can feel the rework coming inside me

  • @justusoakes7402
    @justusoakes7402 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome video! It’s good to have professionals like you making content!!!!!

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well I wouldn’t consider myself anywhere near professional but I will take it haha.

  • @Zzzek
    @Zzzek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video made me happy, realm is a very special heartwarming game for everyone who grow up playing, maxing and losing 8/8 chars I will hop back on realm when they update the map 100%😅

  • @riversaesthetic3344
    @riversaesthetic3344 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    make sure to like guys i want more content like this 😅

    • @gtristan5441
      @gtristan5441 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like women

    • @Maskuh8
      @Maskuh8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@gtristan5441if you didn't you could be mentally ill

    • @Maskuh8
      @Maskuh8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless you are a wome of course

  • @beaubridges7251
    @beaubridges7251 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think there should be teleportation markers/ check points, where it is a struggle to climb to the higher floors or areas

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So from what it looks like, beacons will be active for the entirety of the realms lifespan once they are reached.

  • @sebchoof
    @sebchoof ปีที่แล้ว +5

    awesome vids matey glad youre back

  • @MsCherryKiss
    @MsCherryKiss ปีที่แล้ว +2

    some great discussion! I've been out of RotMG for a while, but maybe will return someday :) I think I'd like to hear about what the rework actually does when it comes out first though.

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว

      I will be one of the first to post! If it's good and worth returning for... I'll let you know. If it's ass... you'll know.

  • @ferreira800
    @ferreira800 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Incredible content, coming back to the game on your name

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome back!

  • @cubostar
    @cubostar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the idea of an NPC to give quests, but I think this already exists with the tinkerer. There are quests that require multiple marks from different dungeons, and it has not been successful in enriching the maxing experience.
    Your proposal gave me an idea though: what if dungeons didn't drop stat potions, but instead dropped a currency that can be exchanged for stat potions by this NPC? The amount of currency from a dungeon complete can scale with dungeon difficulty, and potions like life/mana can require more of this currency than speed/dexterity. This allows people to max by doing whatever dungeons they want to run!

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think with the tinkerer the main issue is accessibility. Because you have to go to nexus, hold 3 marks and then also go to vault to get chest rng…
      My hope would be no marks, and he can drop potions on the spot.
      I like the concept of what you’re saying, however this doesn’t encourage a variety of play. I like people “doing what they want” but that would also fall into the trap I mentioned in the video. Once the most efficient method is discovered people will just grind that over and over if speed is their concern.

  • @LiamCarroll-w8d
    @LiamCarroll-w8d ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree but also disagree on some points... the current gameplay loop of -- find a busy realm, sit on the beach chatting until teleportation cooldown goes away, teleport to dungeon call outs/tp to middle of map only to find empty glands, run around looking for sprite worlds, snake pits and atk potions so I can 3/8 and stand a chance at endgame -- is getting tiresome. Beacons would make solo realm clearing much more viable and enjoyable for small groups, but I could see it being min maxed by discord andy's if implemented poorly. I somewhat agree with biome restrictions for weak/new characters, but I think they should operate more like suggestions than restrictions. The game used to do a poor job at conveying difficulty of certain events and dungeons but if they keep on improving this like they have, we'll hopefully see less light blue stars getting insta popped by Avatar. If the quests and progression guide players to content on the brink of their ability / character strength it makes for a more enjoyable experience, personally I would like to see the game teach new players about the importance of maxing certain stats, like have a character quest tell them to max their speed for a reward. All of this already exists in a roundabout, sidedoor way with tokens, battlepass missions, etc.. but to have npc's or even just UI prompts to tell new players what to prioritize would be huge. Some of the most fun I've had on this game is running mid-game dungeons on under geared characters -- A new player stands a far better chance in a Cemetery with t8 gear than they do in a lost halls with an 8/8 and WC tops. Glad battlepass missions are pushing players to experience this type of content GIVE US PPE MODE ALREADY

  • @djembe7900
    @djembe7900 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is really entertaining content, this makes me want to play ROTMG again hehe :)

  • @Razord12
    @Razord12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video & music! But isn't the NPC quest reward system basically already there in the form of seasonal missions which give potions already?

  • @respectedmastermind
    @respectedmastermind ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hype

  • @cebmofroz
    @cebmofroz ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro comes back after a year and just starts blessing us with banger after banger wtf

  • @avivion1782
    @avivion1782 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid, just came back to rotmg after years of not playing

  • @1999_reborn
    @1999_reborn ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll come back from my 2-3 year hiatus when this happens

  • @seatedgamer
    @seatedgamer ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for reminding me to comeback to this game after enjoying my life
    but really thanks for the videos

  • @healsgood9147
    @healsgood9147 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid, really good summary of the realm rework. Just curious, what makes you think they'll release the realm rework "soon after" motmg? I hadn't heard that

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kinda relative. I have reason to believe they are targeting the release by the end of 2023 or early 24.

    • @healsgood9147
      @healsgood9147 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TSPage i agree, it's a fair assumption. Was just wondering if they made a statement on release date that I had missed. Thanks

  • @jwag301
    @jwag301 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as someone who just started this game 2 days ago i wish there was some type of recommended power for things. I always die getting 1 shot by something that is way stronger than me but i have no idea how strong stuff is till it hits me..

  • @imperialscout5566
    @imperialscout5566 ปีที่แล้ว

    CDIRK I'd NOT completely outclassed. IT is a direct competor to Avarice as its easier to use and the DPM of both are still nearly equall .That is my 1 nit pick.

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, they did buff a lot of them so it wasn't as big of a point. But ray katana...

  • @kaled8839
    @kaled8839 ปีที่แล้ว

    this idea is great and DEFINITELY NOT blatantly stealing from aced games with their beneath the nexus's ideas

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven’t played in like 3 years so I wouldn’t know. Although I was keeping up with BtN for a while. I just hadn’t seen anything at all recently.

    • @kaled8839
      @kaled8839 ปีที่แล้ว

      @TSPage theyve been really dry on updates for the past 2 years, but biomes has been present since the first testing session 3 years ago or something around that time. hell some of the biomes deca showcased are almost 1 to 1 copies of BTN's biomes, but of course no one knows about it since BTN is very underground as of now

  • @sissel02
    @sissel02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If rotmg is good at something is that the game doesn't need to communicate to the player how the difficulty curve of the game works, it's intuitive and lets the player explore and experiment with the environment. Locking advanced areas behind forced "power walls" is unnecesary and goes against the open world nature of the realm. Why would you want to streamline the most open content of the game? To teach players? I'd say that in such case the game should show, not tell, and just let the players see what the game has to offer and how the difficulty scaling in the realm works even if it's punishing (punishment is how fun learning curves work in games, it's what non verbal tutorials use).

  • @ShardstapoRotmg
    @ShardstapoRotmg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Somewhat decent character" while holding some items ive never had lol

  • @tuturu9419
    @tuturu9419 ปีที่แล้ว

    When is the release date of the rework I search but didn't find anything

  • @BatmanBeyondZ
    @BatmanBeyondZ ปีที่แล้ว

    Hopefully they changing white bag drop chances too

  • @Ricky-nr8cu
    @Ricky-nr8cu ปีที่แล้ว

    Excited for the future

  • @Trenchologist
    @Trenchologist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video

  • @henrycardona2940
    @henrycardona2940 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope they update the Marks system too.

  • @SporianSummit
    @SporianSummit ปีที่แล้ว

    Realm rework just screams darza's dominion for me

  • @xenoblade1068
    @xenoblade1068 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i dont like the biome lock idea, i feel like it would be annoying for no new players, all the other features sound kick ass

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve pulled back a little, peep the pinned comment and lmk what you think.

  • @linus5823
    @linus5823 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video! Instantly subbed 😊

  • @vivid.worker
    @vivid.worker ปีที่แล้ว

    thats well known! thank you!

  • @nachod9772
    @nachod9772 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good explanation and edition

  • @zzthedon4k
    @zzthedon4k ปีที่แล้ว

    There's no need to restrict players, maybe just have a warning (since there are those new Text bubbles for newbies they've implemented) for the first couple times you enter a biome that you're grossly underleveled/undermaxed for. Also I feel like they'll restrict teleporting for some reason. I don't know, being able to TP from the beach to what is supposed to be Exalt level content doesn't sit right with me; maybe you can only TP to someone within the same tier of biome as you? To avoid moving a lot, before you enter the Realm/wait in queue, you could just select which tier of biome you wish to spawn in (easy, normal, hard), with harder difficulties being locked out until you get a couple stars/experienced enough with the game.
    Also, Combat Levels could be used to HP scale things properly. Maybe a newbie could enter a fight he has no right being at, but he wouldn't negatively impact the other players THAT much, since the HP scaling is somewhat relative to his Combat Power (also encouraging stronger players to do their job). This way, SB could scale off of your Combat Level, and maybe getting high enough damage dealt on a boss could give you boosted loot (ofc, relative to your Combat Level) giving everyone a chance to get more loot for better gameplay.

  • @neortik7
    @neortik7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what musics you use they are so great !!! specially the first one !

  • @slepi75
    @slepi75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When Realm Rework?!?!

  • @daisyrose5787
    @daisyrose5787 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy

  • @lordcasper3357
    @lordcasper3357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when is this happening?

  • @Taehaus
    @Taehaus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good video

  • @noscopemonkey3369
    @noscopemonkey3369 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do we have a date for the update?

  • @ВадимЧехов-щ7ф
    @ВадимЧехов-щ7ф ปีที่แล้ว

    Deca would never kill disc runs

  • @zlazk8713
    @zlazk8713 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video dude, keep it up!

  • @Owlboi
    @Owlboi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    while gatekeeping and the elitist discord meta sucks, its really deca's fault for designing the game in a way that forces players to do this.

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, but I also think the majority of the structure that encourages it is older than deca.

  • @nathes998
    @nathes998 ปีที่แล้ว

    its the guy i played with on overwatch!

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably 😂😂

  • @J777ack
    @J777ack ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!!!

  • @kesilchen
    @kesilchen ปีที่แล้ว

    AWESOME VIDEO

  • @italoporfirio9355
    @italoporfirio9355 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice video thank you

  • @persibalmora7346
    @persibalmora7346 ปีที่แล้ว

    Save the realm campaign!!!!

  • @Jesyak
    @Jesyak ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, but damn it's so stereotypical for this genre... I guess that's why it caught on

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How so? Genuinely curious as I’m always trying to improve.

    • @Jesyak
      @Jesyak ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TSPage I appreciate that attitude and really enjoyed the vid :)
      Anyways, the editing of the video, including the visuals and transitions, were very similar to other essay-style vids I've seen. The same thing goes for how you read the script; sounds like it blends in exactly with the way others do it. Along with how you structured the video (using different music in the background for each section/topic, and sounding more upbeat/intense with your voice in the parts of the music that match such energy). Especially using Undertale/Classical music because that's what everyone seems to do in documentary-style vids these days.
      I know you said you're trying to improve, but the video was really good as is. It didn't overstay it's welcome, which I was not expecting for a 10+ minute vid, and it was put together quite well. This style of editing has been proven to work on TH-cam, so I'm sure you'll find success sticking with it and only making changes wherever you see fit :)
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Edit: Linking a few vids that display what I'm talking about...
      (Similar Essay-Style Speaking) th-cam.com/video/KOfv3F7WVFs/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=CadJones
      (Another Similar Speaking Style) th-cam.com/video/mukhzo9OIL8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TomO%27Regan
      Although the speaking in the videos is similar, your editing isn't.

    • @manwiththeafro
      @manwiththeafro ปีที่แล้ว

      blud gave 0 advice on how to improve

    • @Jesyak
      @Jesyak ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manwiththeafro because I'm not sure what he needs, as I said in my comment. This style of video does well on YT, so who am I to judge how to change it?

  • @darkrathwheito9818
    @darkrathwheito9818 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:50 my opinion is that this would change a lot, recently i saw a guy who popped around 20 public o3's getting nothing but pots when random 0/8's who leeched and just got their SB getting all the loot there was to get, just a letdown isn't it?

  • @marknighthunter3640
    @marknighthunter3640 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't like that because I love ppes and I can do a lost halls with t1 gear sooooo ya I don't mind if they don't give the quest but don't keep me out of end game just because I'm under gear and max

  • @damientorres8988
    @damientorres8988 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know it sounds terrible but I e died on so many 8/8’s I wish they’d just sell apples for 5$ I’d buy 😢

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว

      Level 20 potions are $5… idk about apples lmaooo

  • @topec1263
    @topec1263 ปีที่แล้ว

    although deca did nearly almost kill the game at one point.

  • @Tandoura
    @Tandoura ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Au server rejoice no more dead realms

  • @ultrariproach9230
    @ultrariproach9230 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fianally i can be nice at the game

  • @AStorys123-rl5xo
    @AStorys123-rl5xo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i stopped played when deca bought realm

    • @ShinyaTheNinja
      @ShinyaTheNinja 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      youre missing out

    • @SporianSummit
      @SporianSummit 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ShinyaTheNinja he really aint though, except for the fact that if you wanna do higher tier dungeons you'd better be in a discord server or you aint doing it generally speaking.

  • @lukeschmidt6559
    @lukeschmidt6559 ปีที่แล้ว

    i absolutely LOVE the fact that they are just copying nilly's realm word for word, honestly i like it because i LOVED rotmg pservers and it sucked when they all got taken down

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I only played on some of the earlier versions of Nilly’s but idr biomes being implemented like this. What year was that a thing?

    • @galoomba5559
      @galoomba5559 ปีที่แล้ว

      During the Kabam era I only played on Nilly because the vanilla game was unplayable F2P. It'd be nice if pservers made a comeback but it's probably unlikely now that vanilla is actually playable.

  • @renzobarbosa4718
    @renzobarbosa4718 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is more fun, deca fix exalt launcher in crash’s and disconnects

  • @Stewge.
    @Stewge. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still not here...

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeaaa…. :/

  • @teamxofcha0s61
    @teamxofcha0s61 ปีที่แล้ว

    The game is still a rampant mess with a lot of exploiters lol.
    Also Deca was actually founded on the basis of acquiring realm and revitalizing it (by an ex-employee of Kabam) to lay the foundation for Deca's live service model.

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True… but some of the stuff from back then was DIFFERENT kinda busted.

  • @anonimonovids
    @anonimonovids ปีที่แล้ว

    At this point RotMG should die and RotMG 2 come out

  • @kithkindeck
    @kithkindeck ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:30 terrible design. What if I WANT to challenge myself on an under geared PPE? No, the ''beef gate'' nature of the challenge is enough of a deterrent. If you can beat the cazadores behind goodsprings at lvl 2, then you deserve to take the shortcut.

    • @TSPage
      @TSPage  ปีที่แล้ว

      Make it a star requirement? Only players with certain stars can bypass the system. The idea is for new players to have a more linear experience because the current new player experience is very bad. However, when they reach let's say 15 stars they no longer have to be restricted like this.
      Maybe make it to where only beacons are power level restricted. So you can still travel to those areas, but you can't just instantly go there.

  • @benny5195
    @benny5195 ปีที่แล้ว

    all the updates just look stolen from ROTF

  • @jotalface4652
    @jotalface4652 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    didnt like the rework :c

  • @TheRagingSmurfGaming
    @TheRagingSmurfGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    the REAL DOWNFALL for this game was Deca.

  • @Bienebumsebiene
    @Bienebumsebiene ปีที่แล้ว

    Old ROTMG was much better.

  • @perrytimmerman7771
    @perrytimmerman7771 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video