I had one pre ordered but cancelled because of longer than expected wait. When it comes out I will probably get one. I’ll message you if you want to use it for a review.
I have the Exsence 2021 for seatrout fishing and JDM Vanquish for brown trout fishing, I really prefer the solid higher resistance 0 freeplay substantial feel of Exsence over the Vanquish featherlight spin. The higher power drag, better bearings, more grease etc is all there for specifically salt water fishing.
Hi, I received my vanquish today and I find that the handle has a bit of jiggle on it at the connection to the body. It maybe internal. Is this typical you think? Thanks.
i dont know.. maybe if its really little. if you have any other reels, should be less than any of them. These reels are not known to have quality control issues..
Hello, can you help me? i purchased the c14 exsense from japan it has 9 bearings and is c14. The reason i got it was price and the reel is suppose to be unique it suppose to start up and stop fast to finesse weary fish....i am aware amazon has a scam reel named exsense bb this is not what i have. So my question is is the c14 9 bearing reel the same as magnesium reel with just lighter ?
someone sent me a stella for review... so that should come out in a couple of weeks. I am planning on buying the cardiff too, the New one, the F4, when that comes out
assuming u watched the video and u understand the differences... it depends... I can see a scenario where the Exsence would make sense for freshwater. I hate the high gear ratio but i love the all black look. If u don't mind the higher resistance and higher gear ratio and prefer the look - thats totally fine. Also, if some website has the exsence significantly cheaper than vanquish, they again it would make sense to go that route. Mayte there are other scenarios. I pointed the differences. Then its a matter of whats more important for you.
@@ifishcatfish thank you honestly I love the look of it. I’ve been watching your videos and been learning from you. I got the new vanquish 23 c2500SXG and it’s amazing paired it with a Expride B I was thinking for my second build the Stella but some videos I seen Pointed out that the Exsence in some ways is better then the Stella. Not sure if you mentioned that as well but I love your vids and how informative it is
exsence is in absolutely in no way better than stella, that is 100% certain. Maybe its a little lighter because half the body is plastic and stella is all metal, but im not sure thats advantage for bass fishing.
Good review. Just picked up a brand new vanquish for 300 and I feel great about it. Pretty much shielded bearings and 2 extra felt washers in the drag. Nothing better or worse just preference.
Hi victor, found your channel last week and really love it even though I’m mostly a bass fisherman. But, that’s about to change. Your excitement for pan fish has really made me want to try more pan fishing. I just ordered the Vanquish from digitaka and am now searching for a nice rod to go with it. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for the entertaining and educational videos. I’ve learned so much and hopefully, soon, I will be out in the water doing some serious bluegill fishing. Looking forward to the next video.
finding a rod for vanquish will be difficult. For reel you have 2 or 3 choices and they will all be reviewed in detail. But for rods there are hundreds of choices, and they rarely have a decent review
@@ifishcatfish yes, there are so many rods to choose from, but, researching is part of the fun for me. That’s why channels like yours is so helpful. I’m narrowing it down though. Thank you.
Hi Victor now that you have reviewed the Luvias Airity. I wanted to ask between this and the Luvias, which one is smoother and more refined? Im currently on the market for a new reel since yesterday I had an accident on the Jetties and my reel got dragged on the water by a big fish while I was setting up my umbrella and never resurfaced.
Didn't realize that the body was exactly the same as the Vanquish. The Exsence is somewhere between the Stella and the Vanquish but it's obviously closer to the Vanquish! Great review as always, thanks for the good content! PS I actually recently got the reel myself and made a short video on it too. The one thing I disagree is that, at least for me, it feels like a much stronger reel then the vanquish. True, it is very similar to the vanquish, but it is a saltwater reel and the more sturdy handle gives the reel a different feel. Here is my video below if you want to see it: th-cam.com/video/4C5jkUwLmek/w-d-xo.html
Exsence is not in the middle. There are no differences with Vanquish other than those in the video. And if you mail me a Stella, we can look at that as well. I've never had a stella in my hands.
I can't speak for the 21' Exsense but I have the 17' Exsense and it's a beast of a reel. Smooth, Strong, GREAT drag. I use it for hauling Bass with soft plastics. I would never dream to use my Vanquish to even attempt the hook sets and power needed for this technique. I use my Vanquishs' for Trout and light line fishing. And YES, I like it better than my 19 Stella.
I would say that your reviews are very thorough and you pay close attention to detail and aren’t afraid to be critical…..that said, you forgot to mention the sound of the drag!! Thankfully we got a chance to hear it when you lost that huge fish! Hahaha
i didn't want to go there, with all the time i spent on that recently : ). But its actually pretty interesting, because the clicker under the spool is the same, yet the drag sound is different, and actually nicer than the Vanquish. I think the different spool has different acoustics.. has more cuts and maybe thats why u can hear it better..
Hi Victor, recently started watching your channel and it is quite refreshing... esp. your laid back matter of fact delivery. I recently bought a Luvias 3000XH from Digitaka and it noted Made in China as opposed to Made in Japan. I found out from further research that the 1st batch was MiJ but later batches weren't. I'm sure this is just an assembly thing right as all parts will be sourced from wherever it can be made cheaper/better? - comparative advantage (economics). Like the iPhone is made in China/Taiwan. I am looking at adding a 3000 size Luvias Airity and Exsence (maybe Vanquish also) based on your reviews. Keep up the great work!
Thank you! Yes, there doesn't seem to be a difference in quality of assembly between the reels assembled in Japan and the ones assembled in China. And yet, when it comes time to resell them, i am sure the ones made in Japan will resell higher : ). I have a Presso, which is the same reel, and it is made in China. It feels very nice.
@@ifishcatfish tnx for the prompt reply Victor. You put me at ease... anything Made in Japan is tops. 😉 In terms of the resale I'm not worried as I never sold my gear to buy new gear. Glad the Presso worked out great too... I might look into it too.
Hello, your videos are quite good, you contribute many ideas that they like. There are videos that are translated into Spanish but others don't, I don't know why. A greeting from Spain
You have a serious reel fetish😋Btw, I can’t stand 2lb test line. That junk is coming off my reel. And, I love using a drop shot. I’m far more accurate casting. I’m way to lazy and sight impaired to tie 2lb that will not break at the hook.
I always watch the reviews even if I have no interest in buying the product. Very good analysis. That shout of frustration at the end - I think we all can sympathize!
i dont know about 'greatly', but will lose some weight for sure. But at the end i think its aluminum vs carbon... so the knob can take you only so far..
Digitaka list 4 Exsence 2021 spinning reels, two of them are very similar, the 3000MHG and the C3000MHG. Slight difference in gear ratio but the latter is 15 gram lighter. Anyone who knows why? The "C" is for compact so I guess the C3000 has a 2500 body (2000?) but then what is the 3000MHG based on - a 4000 body or? Is there even a regular 3000 body?
Great Review, I guess the best equivalent to seabass in the US are stripers (although hybrids more closely match the size) Exsence is mostly a brand name there is excense rods, exsence lures, excense line..
@@ifishcatfish I have an excense rod for fishing in the Mediterranean Sea crazy expensive but crazy good. I would send you my Daiwa luvias airity but I live on the other side of the planet..
Thanks for the information... I'm definitely getting an exsence for more durability and in my opinion 10 grams weight difference is nothing compared to the extra protection. Besides the drag really matters when you target monsters like me.
I know I've said before that I had this reel, but returned it and got myself a Daiwa Luvias Airity a few days ago. Japanese model (3000s-cxh) which is not officially for sale in European countries, unless you pay a ridiculous amount of cash (+600 euro). It's like a certate but much improved. Worth the extra cash? Yes! Much lighter and design aesthetics is even more beautiful. Hands down to daiwa here, they make the most beautiful reels that beats Shimano. If you ever get the chance, look into the Daiwa Luvias Airity. They got a wide range of models from the 1000 model (150g) to more heavy (200g) for the 4000 model. Btw great review, after using mine for a bit I didn't like it after all, atleast not for the cash it's offered for, since i got the airity for the same price (430 euro).. ;-)
@@ifishcatfish Hi mate, this luvias I'm fishing a lot with, but I want to buy another this year, so If you didn't do a review yet, I think I can send it over depending where to as shipping can be really expensive from Holland.
Good review, but this is not apple to apple to compare Vanquish 2500 vs Essence 3000. Although they have the body “size”. But actually the internal of Shimano 2500 size is same as 1000/2000 size reel . The internal of 3000 Vanquish have multi drag felts system too. They are same design for the drag.
No. The 2500 size does not have 1000 internals. Thats not even possible if the body is 2500 as the mainshaft is shorter. U may be getting confused with soecial size 2500FC but the whole body of those reels is 1000, not just the internals. The internals are not swappable between 1000 and 2500.
Exsence doesn't come in UL sizes, its a bass reel. Probably the difference with Vanford is irrelevant. Exsence just looks nicer, being all black, but other than that probably doesn't matter
very tough call.. probably vanford, but not due to mechanics or gears and not even due to lower resistance, as both reels have near 0 resistance. I like the flat line lay and it works better for polyester lines. I also like that it is very easy to open and clean and regrease, or change bearings or whatever. It is very user friendly inside. Daiwa is nasty to open, even without magseal.
You make extremely informative reviews. Thank you very much. Could you please share your observations on the lubricants used for the expensive models. What are the factory lubricants used by Shimano originally?
Great video interested in purchasing one of these reel for myself. I do mostly UK sea bass fishing with upto 20 gram surface lures and shallow divers would you recommend one over the other for myself ? And is the any play in the handles of the vanquish thanks
I’ve watched all of your reel videos and I respect your opinion highly. I have never owned a shimano spinning reel. I want to get one to compare to my daiwa. For bass fishing would you say exsence for $100 more than twinpower? I feel like luvias airity blows all these out of the water for ultralight but I have to know.
for Bass, i would go with the aluminum frame of Twinpower. Some extra security during boat runs and high stress hooksets. The exsense is more finesse. If you are used to heavier weights due to bass fishing, and for me 1/8 is very heavy, then you will indeed prefer the Exist Airity. But try tossing trout magnet on 1/64 jig head and you will find the extra resistance annoying.
The million dollar question: With a $300 budget, what ultralight reel would you recommend? JDM or American? Nice video btw... I miss your trout videos..lol... I fish mainly for trout here in so Cal. They stock big ones up to 10lb!
I would recommend the new 2021 Soare, even though it hasn't come out yet. I already know exactly what it is. Fall trout season is almost here. More trout videos coming
that depends on a thousand things. I have plenty of low end rods in my rods playlist - just pick the one u like. As for reel - thats daiwa legalis LT 1000
i find that my reels that are suppose to be waterproof aren't as smooth as my so called freshwater reels. i attribute this to friction from the o rings placed in critical areas to keep the salt water out.
yes, since its a vanquish. And a good thing to learn is check all of these things on the shimano website. GO to Shimano japan and Daiwa japan and save those two websites in favorites. All of these questions check there yourself. Even I don't remember all features because to tell u the truth i don't care for most features. I go to their website and check things myself as i refuse to remember all this nonsense
Excellent review as always. Are you planning on reviewing or have any thoughts on the Abu Garcia Zenon? I know you prefer Daiwa and Shimano, but this sounds like an amazing ultra light weight reel on paper
smoothness is the same. Grease doesn't change smoothness. If anything, thick grease makes things feel smoother initially. Resistance changes with grease, but people don't care enough for resistance to open this expensive reel
@@ifishcatfish that makes it sound really good. Too bad it's a black painted old ultegra variant. I'd kill for the new ultegras to look like this though.
@@ifishcatfish I thought these numbers were S/N for first 50k or 100k units... until now. Had a Stradic Ci4+ with 3xxxx and TPXD with 3xxxx numbers on them as well, still have Ci4+ FB without number and sold a TPXD without that number. Just wondering what they stand for.
@@jairusaudwin2605 its just a 3000 size reel. Its up to you what you are gona use it. What about bass fishing? White bass, lake trout, saltwater fishing..
Hi Victor coming to you from Vancouver Island where I have much salt water experience. Magnesium corrodes very easily and looks bad in short order. Generally it adds about a $100 per reel.ight strong but will turns to dust used In salt water. Freshwater no problem at all. Also it seems like plastic chrome is to big of a expense for Shimano and Daiwa for their customers. I miss the good old days with luxurious plastic. chrome. Hope this helps any confusion.
Certate is a heavy aluminum reel, comparable to Twinpower, not Exsence. Daiwa doesn't have a reel like the exsense. Their reels are either aluminum for heavy duty, or carbon for finesse. This is on a magnesium frame, that is in between in terms of strength and weigth
Luvias airity and exist have magnesium body. I have a certate it is by far the smoothest reel I own, second is the Exsence , I own the model before the one in your review. The cI4 Exsence I had got geary after 2 years of light use, I got rid of it, it was really just a ci4+ Stradic with a couple of extra bearings and a different paint job. I played with the luvias airity in the shop I can confirm it is super smooth like certate just much lighter.
TwinPower XD is the aluminium body version of the Exsence. It was the same in the previous models also , Exsence magnesium TP XD aluminium body, TP had also had a carbon drag.
I have review of TP, not XD, and it has aluminum body. I haven't had a chance to play with Luvias Airity yet, but a subscriber said he will mail me one for review, so i will check it out in next few weeks
Is someone buying the new Presso reel? I want to review it but can't buy it..
I've had my eye on this one as well. Specifications look good. But to be put on mailing list notification not available either.
I had one pre ordered but cancelled because of longer than expected wait. When it comes out I will probably get one. I’ll message you if you want to use it for a review.
It’s made in China, probably not as good as the 17
@@spencerb891 i still want to review it
@@ifishcatfish you and I both know it’s not going to be as good as the 17
I have the Exsence 2021 for seatrout fishing and JDM Vanquish for brown trout fishing, I really prefer the solid higher resistance 0 freeplay substantial feel of Exsence over the Vanquish featherlight spin. The higher power drag, better bearings, more grease etc is all there for specifically salt water fishing.
Good feedback. Usually Shimano has a reason for doing these differences and u described them well
What sizes are the reels and what size rods do you have them on? Just curious as im in the market for both trout and seatrout combos. Thanks
@@RikkiHockey Exsence 4000 on Shimano Lunamis 90ML and Vanquish 2500 on Megabass Great Hunting Whip Twitch
Victor, I am very happy that you purchase reels, to just review them and don't keep them. I am still enjoy my Daiwa Legalis.
thanks D ! : )
Hi, I received my vanquish today and I find that the handle has a bit of jiggle on it at the connection to the body. It maybe internal. Is this typical you think? Thanks.
i dont know.. maybe if its really little. if you have any other reels, should be less than any of them. These reels are not known to have quality control issues..
I got questions.. vanquish are suitable for saltwater? Or its design for freshwater only ?
yes, suitable. Although too expensive for that. I would use something like stradic fl for that
Hello, can you help me? i purchased the c14 exsense from japan it has 9 bearings and is c14. The reason i got it was price and the reel is suppose to be unique it suppose to start up and stop fast to finesse weary fish....i am aware amazon has a scam reel named exsense bb this is not what i have. So my question is is the c14 9 bearing reel the same as magnesium reel with just lighter ?
no, totally different reel. The magnesium excense and the excense bb have no common parts. Completely different reels, and big difference
I don't like the new Shimano reels. They look dated, old. They need a revamp.
I'm in love with the new Daiwa MQ design.
but Shimano is easy to open. Have u tried to open those MQ designs? u need the tools and then u still have to deal with the mag fluid...
@@ifishcatfish lol you crack me up. I buy reel to fish not open up! I'll leave that up to you. Nice video.
When will you review Stella or Cardiff CI4+?
someone sent me a stella for review... so that should come out in a couple of weeks. I am planning on buying the cardiff too, the New one, the F4, when that comes out
@@ifishcatfish That's great I'm looking forward for the reviews! :)
Master I fish I have a question….is it dumb to buy the exsence for fresh water ???
assuming u watched the video and u understand the differences... it depends... I can see a scenario where the Exsence would make sense for freshwater. I hate the high gear ratio but i love the all black look. If u don't mind the higher resistance and higher gear ratio and prefer the look - thats totally fine. Also, if some website has the exsence significantly cheaper than vanquish, they again it would make sense to go that route. Mayte there are other scenarios. I pointed the differences. Then its a matter of whats more important for you.
@@ifishcatfish thank you honestly I love the look of it. I’ve been watching your videos and been learning from you. I got the new vanquish 23 c2500SXG and it’s amazing paired it with a Expride B I was thinking for my second build the Stella but some videos I seen Pointed out that the Exsence in some ways is better then the Stella. Not sure if you mentioned that as well but I love your vids and how informative it is
exsence is in absolutely in no way better than stella, that is 100% certain. Maybe its a little lighter because half the body is plastic and stella is all metal, but im not sure thats advantage for bass fishing.
@@ifishcatfish thank you for the info now I know
sadly i got the 2019 model.. i wanted to get the 2020 model
one is a stradic, and one is a Vanquish : )
Good review. Just picked up a brand new vanquish for 300 and I feel great about it. Pretty much shielded bearings and 2 extra felt washers in the drag. Nothing better or worse just preference.
Hi victor, found your channel last week and really love it even though I’m mostly a bass fisherman. But, that’s about to change. Your excitement for pan fish has really made me want to try more pan fishing. I just ordered the Vanquish from digitaka and am now searching for a nice rod to go with it. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for the entertaining and educational videos. I’ve learned so much and hopefully, soon, I will be out in the water doing some serious bluegill fishing. Looking forward to the next video.
finding a rod for vanquish will be difficult. For reel you have 2 or 3 choices and they will all be reviewed in detail. But for rods there are hundreds of choices, and they rarely have a decent review
@@ifishcatfish yes, there are so many rods to choose from, but, researching is part of the fun for me. That’s why channels like yours is so helpful. I’m narrowing it down though. Thank you.
Hi Victor now that you have reviewed the Luvias Airity. I wanted to ask between this and the Luvias, which one is smoother and more refined?
Im currently on the market for a new reel since yesterday I had an accident on the Jetties and my reel got dragged on the water by a big fish while I was setting up my umbrella and never resurfaced.
I would go for airity over this but vanquish over airity because vanquish has no resistance
Can’t wait to you catch some nice ones on it! Thanks for your effort on your reviews!
Hooked up a king salmon TWICE. Lost every time..
Great vid. You should check out the Daiwa Kage MQ LT.
Didn't realize that the body was exactly the same as the Vanquish. The Exsence is somewhere between the Stella and the Vanquish but it's obviously closer to the Vanquish!
Great review as always, thanks for the good content!
PS I actually recently got the reel myself and made a short video on it too. The one thing I disagree is that, at least for me, it feels like a much stronger reel then the vanquish. True, it is very similar to the vanquish, but it is a saltwater reel and the more sturdy handle gives the reel a different feel. Here is my video below if you want to see it:
th-cam.com/video/4C5jkUwLmek/w-d-xo.html
True, comparison to the Stella would be very interesting
Exsence is not in the middle. There are no differences with Vanquish other than those in the video.
And if you mail me a Stella, we can look at that as well. I've never had a stella in my hands.
I can't speak for the 21' Exsense but I have the 17' Exsense and it's a beast of a reel. Smooth, Strong, GREAT drag. I use it for hauling Bass with soft plastics. I would never dream to use my Vanquish to even attempt the hook sets and power needed for this technique. I use my Vanquishs' for Trout and light line fishing. And YES, I like it better than my 19 Stella.
I like how he pronounce three as it is in the Bulgarian language.
i stopped trying, lol : )
I would say that your reviews are very thorough and you pay close attention to detail and aren’t afraid to be critical…..that said, you forgot to mention the sound of the drag!! Thankfully we got a chance to hear it when you lost that huge fish! Hahaha
i didn't want to go there, with all the time i spent on that recently : ). But its actually pretty interesting, because the clicker under the spool is the same, yet the drag sound is different, and actually nicer than the Vanquish. I think the different spool has different acoustics.. has more cuts and maybe thats why u can hear it better..
Hi Victor, recently started watching your channel and it is quite refreshing... esp. your laid back matter of fact delivery. I recently bought a Luvias 3000XH from Digitaka and it noted Made in China as opposed to Made in Japan. I found out from further research that the 1st batch was MiJ but later batches weren't. I'm sure this is just an assembly thing right as all parts will be sourced from wherever it can be made cheaper/better? - comparative advantage (economics). Like the iPhone is made in China/Taiwan. I am looking at adding a 3000 size Luvias Airity and Exsence (maybe Vanquish also) based on your reviews. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
Yes, there doesn't seem to be a difference in quality of assembly between the reels assembled in Japan and the ones assembled in China. And yet, when it comes time to resell them, i am sure the ones made in Japan will resell higher : ). I have a Presso, which is the same reel, and it is made in China. It feels very nice.
@@ifishcatfish tnx for the prompt reply Victor. You put me at ease... anything Made in Japan is tops. 😉
In terms of the resale I'm not worried as I never sold my gear to buy new gear. Glad the Presso worked out great too... I might look into it too.
Hello, your videos are quite good, you contribute many ideas that they like. There are videos that are translated into Spanish but others don't, I don't know why. A greeting from Spain
interesting...
I have not put subtitles on any of my videos.... not sure how they are translated..
I suppose that only TH-cam will do it, it's a pity that you don't subtitle all your videos, because I quite like what you say.
You have a serious reel fetish😋Btw, I can’t stand 2lb test line. That junk is coming off my reel. And, I love using a drop shot. I’m far more accurate casting. I’m way to lazy and sight impaired to tie 2lb that will not break at the hook.
It can be a challenge, hehhe
I always watch the reviews even if I have no interest in buying the product. Very good analysis. That shout of frustration at the end - I think we all can sympathize!
all these video titles went through my eyes - Exsense vs King Salmon! Sigh..
If you switch the T knob for a paddle knob it would lighten the handle weight greatly.
i dont know about 'greatly', but will lose some weight for sure. But at the end i think its aluminum vs carbon... so the knob can take you only so far..
Digitaka list 4 Exsence 2021 spinning reels, two of them are very similar, the 3000MHG and the C3000MHG. Slight difference in gear ratio but the latter is 15 gram lighter. Anyone who knows why?
The "C" is for compact so I guess the C3000 has a 2500 body (2000?) but then what is the 3000MHG based on - a 4000 body or? Is there even a regular 3000 body?
That's batman's reel.
Great Review,
I guess the best equivalent to seabass in the US are stripers (although hybrids more closely match the size)
Exsence is mostly a brand name there is excense rods, exsence lures, excense line..
i have some exsense monofilament that i got from europe. It's a good line of products, deserves its own unique reel, not a repainted vanquish.
@@ifishcatfish I have an excense rod for fishing in the Mediterranean Sea crazy expensive but crazy good.
I would send you my Daiwa luvias airity but I live on the other side of the planet..
Thanks for the information... I'm definitely getting an exsence for more durability and in my opinion 10 grams weight difference is nothing compared to the extra protection.
Besides the drag really matters when you target monsters like me.
That king salmon must have hurt. Do you think that the old exsense not CI4 was just the old Vanquish?
No not even close
The old exsense is just a Stradic CI4+ painted black, with bearings under the spool.
I know I've said before that I had this reel, but returned it and got myself a Daiwa Luvias Airity a few days ago. Japanese model (3000s-cxh) which is not officially for sale in European countries, unless you pay a ridiculous amount of cash (+600 euro). It's like a certate but much improved. Worth the extra cash? Yes! Much lighter and design aesthetics is even more beautiful. Hands down to daiwa here, they make the most beautiful reels that beats Shimano.
If you ever get the chance, look into the Daiwa Luvias Airity. They got a wide range of models from the 1000 model (150g) to more heavy (200g) for the 4000 model.
Btw great review, after using mine for a bit I didn't like it after all, atleast not for the cash it's offered for, since i got the airity for the same price (430 euro).. ;-)
you wana send me that Luvias Airity for review?
@@ifishcatfish Hi mate, this luvias I'm fishing a lot with, but I want to buy another this year, so If you didn't do a review yet, I think I can send it over depending where to as shipping can be really expensive from Holland.
Where did you get the airity luvoas for that price? I am also in Holland
@@debeerbos imported through a friend with no import costs. European prices too high. I got my 3000cxh for 420 euro.
@@ferst5937 great deal, digitaka has good priced as well but no stock atm
Good review, but this is not apple to apple to compare Vanquish 2500 vs Essence 3000. Although they have the body “size”. But actually the internal of Shimano 2500 size is same as 1000/2000 size reel . The internal of 3000 Vanquish have multi drag felts system too. They are same design for the drag.
No. The 2500 size does not have 1000 internals. Thats not even possible if the body is 2500 as the mainshaft is shorter. U may be getting confused with soecial size 2500FC but the whole body of those reels is 1000, not just the internals. The internals are not swappable between 1000 and 2500.
The “kockoff” now or new generation would be the Vanford
What kind of line did you put in the reel?
old 6 lb shimano mono, but forgot the name. Fits perfect on the spool. If you put thinner line the spool may not fit all the way to the edges
love my vanquish 4000 and my twinpower 3000
Have you tried the Shimano Exsence XR and would you pick the Vanford over the Exsence XR?
Exsence doesn't come in UL sizes, its a bass reel. Probably the difference with Vanford is irrelevant. Exsence just looks nicer, being all black, but other than that probably doesn't matter
If we compare Vanford and Exence, can we say there is a clear difference?
If you watch this video you will know that this is the wrong question. You are really comparing Vanford with Vanquish
@@ifishcatfish I'm watching but I don't know English, I'm translating it, that's why I asked. 😂
@@umitkrl7625 excense is a vanquish with some small differences. Much better reel than Vanford
@@ifishcatfish thenks bro.
For UL fishing... if you take out the color portion of it... if it came down to it, would you choose the Vanford 2000 or Presso 2000.. & why?
very tough call.. probably vanford, but not due to mechanics or gears and not even due to lower resistance, as both reels have near 0 resistance. I like the flat line lay and it works better for polyester lines. I also like that it is very easy to open and clean and regrease, or change bearings or whatever. It is very user friendly inside. Daiwa is nasty to open, even without magseal.
You make extremely informative reviews. Thank you very much. Could you please share your observations on the lubricants used for the expensive models. What are the factory lubricants used by Shimano originally?
i dont know, and i have very expensive greases and its still hard to tell the difference after first 1 hour
All the TH-cam people have’s theses reels they said this is the best reel Shimano ever made I don’t know is it better than the vanquish
well now u know
Great video interested in purchasing one of these reel for myself. I do mostly UK sea bass fishing with upto 20 gram surface lures and shallow divers would you recommend one over the other for myself ? And is the any play in the handles of the vanquish thanks
i prefer Vanquish but some people the Exsence. Doesn't matter much obviously.
I’ve watched all of your reel videos and I respect your opinion highly. I have never owned a shimano spinning reel. I want to get one to compare to my daiwa. For bass fishing would you say exsence for $100 more than twinpower? I feel like luvias airity blows all these out of the water for ultralight but I have to know.
for Bass, i would go with the aluminum frame of Twinpower. Some extra security during boat runs and high stress hooksets. The exsense is more finesse.
If you are used to heavier weights due to bass fishing, and for me 1/8 is very heavy, then you will indeed prefer the Exist Airity. But try tossing trout magnet on 1/64 jig head and you will find the extra resistance annoying.
The million dollar question:
With a $300 budget, what ultralight reel would you recommend? JDM or American?
Nice video btw... I miss your trout videos..lol... I fish mainly for trout here in so Cal. They stock big ones up to 10lb!
I would recommend the new 2021 Soare, even though it hasn't come out yet. I already know exactly what it is.
Fall trout season is almost here. More trout videos coming
Any chance you wanna compare the 23 exsense? Been thinking of getting it for a steelhead / light surf rod
I am behind with everything.. i don't think so. I think Tackle Advisors is back, i hope he reviews some of these bass reels
@@ifishcatfish life is hard at the top
What reel do you like more stradic fl 2500 or vanford 2500
for bass - Stradic. For low stress applications - Vanford. If u gona be jacking these ridiculous bass hooksets, u need aluminum body reel.
What budget ultra light combo do you recommend for pan fishing
that depends on a thousand things. I have plenty of low end rods in my rods playlist - just pick the one u like. As for reel - thats daiwa legalis LT 1000
i find that my reels that are suppose to be waterproof aren't as smooth as my so called freshwater reels. i attribute this to friction from the o rings placed in critical areas to keep the salt water out.
there is some truth to what you are saying, but you are talking about resistance, not smoothness. Not everything is smoothness.
i'm sorry your wrong. resistance is when your wife tells you you can't go fishing !
@@rontruocchio5744 touche
Does the 21 have long stroke spool?
yes, since its a vanquish. And a good thing to learn is check all of these things on the shimano website. GO to Shimano japan and Daiwa japan and save those two websites in favorites. All of these questions check there yourself. Even I don't remember all features because to tell u the truth i don't care for most features. I go to their website and check things myself as i refuse to remember all this nonsense
Nice review as always.
There is exsence bb like ultegra
i have a review somewhere. Or maybe it was just unboxing
Excellent review as always. Are you planning on reviewing or have any thoughts on the Abu Garcia Zenon? I know you prefer Daiwa and Shimano, but this sounds like an amazing ultra light weight reel on paper
thats a perfect example of reel I WOULD LIKE to review, but don't want to buy. If you know someone who can mail me one for a couple of weeks..
4.9 oz or 5.4oz?
what are these weights? the reels? whichever i can get..
worthless comparison.
you could have said Why. Now your comment is worthless.
Always great review as usual 👌
Is new Vanquish coming out this or next year?
came out already
@@ifishcatfish where can i see?
Review the twin power xd
i reviewed the regular twinpower. How different can the XD be? One more bearing somewhere, and some extra seal? But body and gears will be same.
I like it better than my FJ
I can see that. My FJ was not perfect and I thought maybe it was my reel, but a lot of other people report similar sentiments.
Has anyone tried to replace the grease? Will it be similar in smoothness to the vanquish
smoothness is the same. Grease doesn't change smoothness. If anything, thick grease makes things feel smoother initially. Resistance changes with grease, but people don't care enough for resistance to open this expensive reel
@@ifishcatfish mine has a good amount of resistance and noise…
@@mount9860 where did u buy it?
JapanLureShop… i am contact with them. Their service is awesome
Hey man why do you think they are selling these for so cheap on ebay right now? Do you think the gears inside might be spent?
how cheap? new?
@@ifishcatfish so it claims to be brand new for 140 probably mid 160s with shipping.Its the bb series if that changes anything.
Duh it's the bb variant smh
@@stoutstazofknoweledg its changes everything. thats a black painted ultegra...
@@ifishcatfish that makes it sound really good. Too bad it's a black painted old ultegra variant. I'd kill for the new ultegras to look like this though.
To shallow
what now?
43429 is what mine says as well 🧐
then you are in good shape
@@ifishcatfish I thought these numbers were S/N for first 50k or 100k units... until now. Had a Stradic Ci4+ with 3xxxx and TPXD with 3xxxx numbers on them as well, still have Ci4+ FB without number and sold a TPXD without that number. Just wondering what they stand for.
@@najsuroviji i dont know what they mean
Hi
Like always great video and reviews.
Can you please recommend me on a rod and reel for using lures between 3 to 15 grams on salt water
for reel i would say Shimano Stradic FL 2500.
Have no idea for rod. I have no rods with this power.
@@ifishcatfish low or hi gear?
@@shimiavivi i prefer low but thats up to u
@@ifishcatfish thanks 😊
@@ifishcatfish do you have a review on daiwa ballistic?
I am looking for salt water finesse reel, any suggestion?
what's wrong with this one?
@@ifishcatfish i am looking for 500 or 1000 size. Exsence only comes in 3000 and 4000.
what about Vanquish? Did you watch the video?
Yes i think either vanquish or twin power. Btw i am wondering why would anyone need size 2000 or 3000 in finesse tackle set up.
@@jairusaudwin2605 its just a 3000 size reel. Its up to you what you are gona use it. What about bass fishing? White bass, lake trout, saltwater fishing..
Great Review as always 👌
I appreciate that
@@ifishcatfish have you ever tried varivas ajing master or 34 thirtyfour pinky Ester line ?
i dont remember the names, but i have reviewed a couple of varivas lines. You would have to look them up on my channel
@@ifishcatfish i buy those line after watching your reviews and its really accurate with your description thx man ✌️
Hi Victor coming to you from Vancouver Island where I have much salt water experience. Magnesium corrodes very easily and looks bad in short order. Generally it adds about a $100 per reel.ight strong but will turns to dust used In salt water. Freshwater no problem at all. Also it seems like plastic chrome is to big of a expense for Shimano and Daiwa for their customers. I miss the good old days with luxurious plastic. chrome. Hope this helps any confusion.
i dont have experience with that, but it is advertised as saltwater reel.
I think diawa certate Lt is best so far. In my opinion. Thanks for your videos
Daiwa luvias airity beats it, but certate best buy.
Certate is a heavy aluminum reel, comparable to Twinpower, not Exsence. Daiwa doesn't have a reel like the exsense. Their reels are either aluminum for heavy duty, or carbon for finesse. This is on a magnesium frame, that is in between in terms of strength and weigth
Luvias airity and exist have magnesium body. I have a certate it is by far the smoothest reel I own, second is the Exsence , I own the model before the one in your review. The cI4 Exsence I had got geary after 2 years of light use, I got rid of it, it was really just a ci4+ Stradic with a couple of extra bearings and a different paint job. I played with the luvias airity in the shop I can confirm it is super smooth like certate just much lighter.
TwinPower XD is the aluminium body version of the Exsence. It was the same in the previous models also , Exsence magnesium TP XD aluminium body, TP had also had a carbon drag.
I have review of TP, not XD, and it has aluminum body. I haven't had a chance to play with Luvias Airity yet, but a subscriber said he will mail me one for review, so i will check it out in next few weeks