Answer to your question: epiphone factory got machines that work to precision and exact, well gibson got that too, but not for the customshop, in the custonshop, gibson works like the old school, all handbuilded, so you dont got exact things
The thing with the headstock Logo is the fact, that the Furnier from the epi is with a cnc mashine and filled with the Same material as the frets. On the Gibson the they carved the Gibson logo and the Diamond by hand. Thats thats why you have the little extra space thats filled with glue
Israel Vazquez Zerecero I have an Epi bullseye and curious about how the neck feels compared between your two. I think the Gibson has a thicker feeling neck but have no way to check it out myself. Also the bridge pup is closer to the bridge than on the epiphone not sure but that also may affect the tone. Thanks
I hate to say it but im digging the Epiphone more ...minus the shape of the headstock lol..and that camera is really good .you can see that the Gibson strings are in pretty rough shape. Nice vid man👍
id like to mention the epiphone has a clear coar fret board, and smaller fret wire. the gibson has bigger fret wire and a bare fret board. the smooth fretboard and smaller frets is fine for a lighter string, and lighter strings are easier on your hands. i got old man hands. LORD IOMMI uses light guage strings.
gibson does real mothr of pearl inlays on the head stock thats why you see the roundings. epiphone uses a flat vernier that has the logo name diamond and the black backing all in one.
‘You see that on all the Gibson custom shop’… Because Gibson still haven’t worked out that nitro lacquer doesn’t bond properly to the mother of Pearl or the glue they use.
Have you seen a difference between Korean and Chinese epi camos, particularly the weight. I've owned both and got rid of the chinese as it felt so much cheaper and lighter even with the real emgs. I just wondered if anyone else had a similar experience?
I own several high end imports, and the Korean stuff is very hard to beat. I own a Korean les Paul standard, with a beautiful flame top. It's an actual maple cap and the guitar is at least 9 lbs. It sounds and plays as good as any Gibson I've owned or worked on.
Have you seen the headstock of the Zaak's silhouette image it's different?? the Epiphone silhouette has the headstock of the Epophone and the Gibson has the Gibson headsotck
Hey nice video. Just getting started back into playing after 25 years and I'm looking to not spend more than a few hundred dollars and after watching your video I think I'm just going to go with the Epiphone. Considering it's probably about a 10th of the price. Any amp small combo amp you recommend? I heard that the PV viper 2 is a nice combo amp
Go for it! If small combo/practice amp is what you're looking for, I'd say just grab one that's a deal from any of the major brands that is pre-loaded with effects for you to play around with and is portable & convenient for transport if you want to rock out somewhere else. Cheers dude!
Thank you for getting back to me. These Zack camo Epiphone versions you can pick up for 300 bucks. I think that's a good starting point for me. What do you think?
I agree after a certain point. Like any les paul over 2500 you're paying for a novelty in mu opinion, however there is magic in a Gibson les paul. They feel way better than epiphones. I love epiphones I own gibsons and epiphones but my Gibson les paul has a spark to it that epi doesn't
gibson is not gibson anymore man ,they became lazy and their quality is up to ....i own two late 50 ties gibson guitars.well u cant compare.epiphone anyday.
I can vouch for all the info here as well - I currently own this Gibson, it is my second ZW Camo and I also have a LP Custom Bullseye. Another important difference is that the Gibsons have binding over fret edges. Neck profiles are different as well - Gibson is like a 50's neck, very chunky, the Epi is thinner. Gibson is also a fair bit heavier than the Epi. I also have one each of the Korean made ZW Customs as well (Bullesye, Camo and Buzzsaw all Unsung plant mid 2000's) - They all have the extra wood in the heel on the back of the neck.
Tim Jones I had a feeling the neck profiles were different between the Gibson and Epi I’m thinking the new Wylde audio versions are closer to Gibson feel since Zakk actually plays that version. Have you noticed that the Epi bridge pup is mounted closer to the bridge? I’m wondering if you find a difference in tone especially if any for Epi have active EMGs? Thanks
@@timjones8754 I have an Epiphone camo Korean on the way with an I at the beginning of the serial. I understand it's the Saein plant rather than the Unsung. Do you know anything about the them?
I'm a Gibson player and fan, but the Epi just looks nicer. Much nicer. Just my opinion.
Answer to your question: epiphone factory got machines that work to precision and exact, well gibson got that too, but not for the customshop, in the custonshop, gibson works like the old school, all handbuilded, so you dont got exact things
Just picked up a Korean made camo for $550 shipped! I’m stoked to finally have one, even if it is an epi.
The thing with the headstock Logo is the fact, that the Furnier from the epi is with a cnc mashine and filled with the Same material as the frets. On the Gibson the they carved the Gibson logo and the Diamond by hand. Thats thats why you have the little extra space thats filled with glue
Good to know!
I Want the zakk cammo bullseye so Badly
I own a Gibson and a Epiphone Buzzaw and the Epi sounds, plays and feels as great as the Gibson.
Well said dude
Israel Vazquez Zerecero I have an Epi bullseye and curious about how the neck feels compared between your two. I think the Gibson has a thicker feeling neck but have no way to check it out myself. Also the bridge pup is closer to the bridge than on the epiphone not sure but that also may affect the tone. Thanks
OK guys, simple! The Epiphone is a sticker/stencil. The Les Paul is an actual INLAY done by the custom shop.
Love the comparison!! Hoping to get the Epi version soon :)
I hate to say it but im digging the Epiphone more ...minus the shape of the headstock lol..and that camera is really good .you can see that the Gibson strings are in pretty rough shape. Nice vid man👍
The e- b-g sting on the Epi is wound backwards
lol good eye Rob!
Gibson QC is the answer
id like to mention the epiphone has a clear coar fret board, and smaller fret wire. the gibson has bigger fret wire and a bare fret board. the smooth fretboard and smaller frets is fine for a lighter string, and lighter strings are easier on your hands. i got old man hands. LORD IOMMI uses light guage strings.
Nice video. I'm actually looking at buying a Korean version of this guitar right now.
That's great! We have one on the Essex Recording Studios official site for sale with hard case 👍
@@EssexRecordingStudios awsome. I'll check it out for consideration. Thanks.
Inlay crispness is because the gibson has a nitro finish. Checking man.
its hard to find a zak wylde epiphone theres too many phony ones now
There are a lot of fakes. I'm seeing more fake orange buzz saws than real ones
gibson does real mothr of pearl inlays on the head stock thats why you see the roundings. epiphone uses a flat vernier that has the logo name diamond and the black backing all in one.
Ok i didn't realise it was all a one layer veneer across the top of the headstock with Epiphone. Makes sense now
@@EssexRecordingStudios it is funny how it is cheaper but looks better and cleaner
What about neck shapes, while playing, do you feel same comfort between them?
Necks definitely feel different quality. The Epiphones have a thicker satin sheen coat on the neck
@@EssexRecordingStudios right, but it can be fixed by a luthier, what about the shape? are they the same shape?
‘You see that on all the Gibson custom shop’… Because Gibson still haven’t worked out that nitro lacquer doesn’t bond properly to the mother of Pearl or the glue they use.
its just that little logo on the head
stock that makes the gibson sell for thousands of $$.
Have you seen a difference between Korean and Chinese epi camos, particularly the weight. I've owned both and got rid of the chinese as it felt so much cheaper and lighter even with the real emgs. I just wondered if anyone else had a similar experience?
I own several high end imports, and the Korean stuff is very hard to beat. I own a Korean les Paul standard, with a beautiful flame top. It's an actual maple cap and the guitar is at least 9 lbs. It sounds and plays as good as any Gibson I've owned or worked on.
Have you seen the headstock of the Zaak's silhouette image it's different?? the Epiphone silhouette has the headstock of the Epophone and the Gibson has the Gibson headsotck
I never noticed that!
Whats the difference when you plug them in?
Hey nice video. Just getting started back into playing after 25 years and I'm looking to not spend more than a few hundred dollars and after watching your video I think I'm just going to go with the Epiphone. Considering it's probably about a 10th of the price. Any amp small combo amp you recommend? I heard that the PV viper 2 is a nice combo amp
Go for it! If small combo/practice amp is what you're looking for, I'd say just grab one that's a deal from any of the major brands that is pre-loaded with effects for you to play around with and is portable & convenient for transport if you want to rock out somewhere else. Cheers dude!
Thank you for getting back to me. These Zack camo Epiphone versions you can pick up for 300 bucks. I think that's a good starting point for me. What do you think?
You should be talking about more of the different types of wood
Are indonesia camo zakk wylde is legit orginal?
No, there were never any Indonesian built Epiphone Zakk Wylde guitars
Also, are the neck profiles the same?
No - The Epi is thinner. Zakk likes a chunky neck so the Gibson profile is 50's - much like his Wylde Audio guitars.
@@timjones8754 wow. You'd think they'd be the same haha.
Do Epiphone still make these Bullseye Les Pauls?
No Zakk had his own brand Wylde Audio built by Schecter in Korea now. Chem them out! I have a video of their Warhammer on my channel
Essex Recording Studios I played a Wylde Audio back in 2017 and the neck was thick as a baseball bat! Great video, I’m subscribed!
The Gibson looks like MOP and the Epiphone looks like Pearloid. Gibson looks like trash
Yeah it's interesting how different the inlays look
Where can you order one of these from epiphone? I’m trying to find one.
These have been discontinued for quite a few years. You will have to find a pre-owned example for sale on eBay, Reverb or some other site
The name Gibson seems to have some sort of magic attached to it, but the magic is in the mind, not the guitar.
I agree after a certain point. Like any les paul over 2500 you're paying for a novelty in mu opinion, however there is magic in a Gibson les paul. They feel way better than epiphones. I love epiphones I own gibsons and epiphones but my Gibson les paul has a spark to it that epi doesn't
I'm really surprised that they make an epiphone and a Gibson model of this
That Gibson intonation looks a bit off to me
Who strung that Epi?
Dude the Gibson is Rosewood and the Epiphone is Indian
gibson is not gibson anymore man ,they became lazy and their quality is up to ....i own two late 50 ties gibson guitars.well u cant compare.epiphone anyday.
The pearl work on Gibson's headstock is really awful
YHW? AND WHY?
Just play the damn things 😅
I think epiphones sound better than Gibson. Sorry everyone that's just my opinion. Love you guys! Lol
Epiphone version is a fake! Can tell by the construction
Both guitars are genuine
I can vouch for all the info here as well - I currently own this Gibson, it is my second ZW Camo and I also have a LP Custom Bullseye. Another important difference is that the Gibsons have binding over fret edges. Neck profiles are different as well - Gibson is like a 50's neck, very chunky, the Epi is thinner. Gibson is also a fair bit heavier than the Epi.
I also have one each of the Korean made ZW Customs as well (Bullesye, Camo and Buzzsaw all Unsung plant mid 2000's) - They all have the extra wood in the heel on the back of the neck.
Tim Jones I had a feeling the neck profiles were different between the Gibson and Epi I’m thinking the new Wylde audio versions are closer to Gibson feel since Zakk actually plays that version. Have you noticed that the Epi bridge pup is mounted closer to the bridge? I’m wondering if you find a difference in tone especially if any for Epi have active EMGs? Thanks
@@timjones8754 I have an Epiphone camo Korean on the way with an I at the beginning of the serial. I understand it's the Saein plant rather than the Unsung. Do you know anything about the them?
Gibbo looks fake
The differences between it and the Epiphone can make it seem that way!