Understanding Call Me Maybe

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    About a decade ago, Carly Rae Jepsen's career exploded. She went from being a reasonably successful artist on Canadian radio to an international superstar practically overnight, all thanks to one lucky break. After the lead single for her sophomore album happened to catch the attention of another Canadian pop star, the world immediately fell in love with it, setting her on a journey that would see her local hit become an international sensation. But what makes it so dang catchy?
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  • @12tone
    @12tone  ปีที่แล้ว +314

    Some additional thoughts/corrections:
    1) I've seen the thing I've described as popping tones called "free notes", but that's boring and it's also not widely used anyway, so why not just make up my own name? Not that I did that. Totally real music theory term, I promise. I would never lie about music theory terminology.
    2) To clarify, when I said "we're in a key that contains B, but isn't very likely to use it as the focus of its melody," I meant in reference to the bass part. My point there is that G, the key laid out by the static line, _is_ likely to pull a melodic emphasis on B, and is thus a better key to read the melody in. Dunno if that came across.
    3) I didn't want to get too deep into this in the video 'cause it wasn't the point, but for what it's worth, I suspect the rise if hybrid tonality in modern popular music is likely due to influences from hip-hop and EDM, both styles that decenter strong keys and frequently take more abstract approaches to their tonal vocabulary.
    4) I should mention that, for most of the verse phrases, you could also read the accents as falling on the second, fourth, and seventh syllables, rather than first, fourth, and seventh. ("I _threw_ a _wish_ in the _well"_ instead of _"I_ threw a _wish_ in the _well."_ ) That makes sense written down, but listening to her delivery, it doesn't sound like the correct parsing to me. Still, your mileage may vary.
    5) The demo at the end, where I lined up the guitar line with the vocal melody, suffers a bit from the fact that all three guitar layers are mixed together on the same track, so I can't avoid also changing the note pattern on the riff behind it. I don't view this as a big deal, and I still think it sounds significantly better, but I wanted to acknowledge the limitation.

    • @phillipsiebold8351
      @phillipsiebold8351 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Popping tones is probably more appropriate, especially when you are talking Canadian music, especially with relation to Canadian fiddling. This might also provide an answer to your mystery in that there is the concept of spooling that appears in Canadian dancing that can appear in phrasing. You don't trudge on towards a climax, keeping all your elements to that build up, but you drop off so that you can rise higher to the next, higher climax.

    • @TheMister123
      @TheMister123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey, did you switch mics around 11:42? Your voice changes quality subtlely, somehow.

    • @fredashay
      @fredashay ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm. I've always thought this was just a simple pop song, but you gave me a new appreciation for how complex it really is!
      I'm gonna go listen to it carefully after watching your video...

    • @richardfox668
      @richardfox668 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      putting the guitar line back in the end chorus would complete the emotional lift but this isn't a completed emotion, only a completed action. she's given him her number but the story isn't over, as we don't know if he will actually call. So mission accomplished but not completed, she's left with the glow of that success without the closure of them actually getting together.

    • @prapanthebachelorette6803
      @prapanthebachelorette6803 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardfox668nice speculation!

  • @Thinginator
    @Thinginator ปีที่แล้ว +236

    This isn't just a pop song. It's THE pop song. Growing up if you asked me what the most genre-defining pop song of all time is, I would answer with "Call me maybe," and that's still my answer today. It perfectly tows the line between simple enough to get stuck in your head and complex enough to never grow old and be forgotten. If I met someone who had never heard a pop song before, this is the first thing I'd play for them as THE example of what pop music is.

    • @julielappano4531
      @julielappano4531 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think it's on the same tier as ABBA's dancing queen

    • @defeatstatistics7413
      @defeatstatistics7413 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@julielappano4531and ABBA's Gimme Gimme Gimme

    • @Nooticus
      @Nooticus ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed!

    • @Nooticus
      @Nooticus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not quite abba level in the level of musicality in my opinion, but pretty close!

    • @a13z.
      @a13z. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd play them "What does the Fox Say?" immediately after. It would be the equivalent of showing them "the definitive documentary" (probably something with Attenborough) and then "This is Spinal Tap" immediately after.

  • @Insert_Bland_Name_Here
    @Insert_Bland_Name_Here ปีที่แล้ว +1155

    This song and "Toxic" by Britney Spears really demonstrate that you can make complex Pop music that's still easy to listen to and catchy as hell.

    • @vitormelomedeiros
      @vitormelomedeiros ปีที่แล้ว +72

      YES. Call Me Maybe and Toxic are two of the most legendary pop songs ever, instant classics that are surely still gonna last for a very long time

    • @satyris410
      @satyris410 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      both bangers absolutely.

    • @BGL19283
      @BGL19283 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      This is some thing I genuinely take issue with when people make, and have made for decades, broad sweeping accusations that all pop music is bad, when we have clear examples of genuine, creative people making music in a pop style that is absolutely generation, defining, and stands the test of time. Whether it's created by some background force and performed by known person, or it's performed and written by an individual by themselves, it doesn't matter the pop genre in itself is no different from any other genre. It's just the one currently co-opted by corporations, which almost every genre has faced in the past

    • @theaddictofgaming9174
      @theaddictofgaming9174 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This song? This song ain't complex at all. I love it, but it's really not

    • @samuelitooooo
      @samuelitooooo ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think this explains why I instantly clicked with Japanese 80s city pop, because this is the default, rather than the exception.

  • @dkerwood1
    @dkerwood1 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    In defense of not using the guitar line: the guitar line and the post chorus are actually the high point of the song. The post chorus actually represents her happiness of finding something she never knew she was missing. This recontextualizes the final chorus into the fun excitement that she's having now that she finds herself complete. Adding that guitar part here would take away from its impact on the post chorus. The post chorus is the exploding balloon; the final chorus is the confetti inside- lighter but made meaningful by what caused it.
    Moreover, it just sounds bad over the chorus. The chorus needs the space between the staccato notes to capture the energy. The legato guitar line works counter to that energy.

    • @jamietaylor4260
      @jamietaylor4260 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Just posted the same thing. On a dance floor, the post chorus is where everyone starts jumping. It's the peak, for sure.

    • @hudy323
      @hudy323 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Totally agree, the guitar is nice but feels like fall/wistful/nostalgic and even on top of that it feels old, like something that would be on a soundtrack or montage. Not wrong, but not fresh

    • @somniloquous0
      @somniloquous0 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I feel like the simplest explanation for not including the guitar line is that it would just be too much and would clutter up the arrangement. given that the whole song (other than said guitar line) is instrumentally based on just two themes, i think it's fair to assume the producer was aiming for potency through economy

    • @MattnUska
      @MattnUska ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@somniloquous0I agree. I think the guitar would make it sound cluttered.

    • @stubbsmusic543
      @stubbsmusic543 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow! All this deep, insightful "analysis" with doodles too!

  • @rmdodsonbills
    @rmdodsonbills ปีที่แล้ว +161

    It wasn't until you separated out the various instrument lines that I actually noticed how intricate they get in this song. I've always thought of it as sort of a guilty pleasure, but I'm finding a new appreciation for it. It's better than I've ever given it credit for. Thanks!

    • @rmdodsonbills
      @rmdodsonbills ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ghost_mall heh, I never actually felt all that guilty :)

  • @kylenorthrop8735
    @kylenorthrop8735 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I know this channel mostly dissects the musical choices of songs, but I have always been impressed with CRJ's lyrics and the way that they subvert traditional pop music. The speaker always has the agency to pursue who she wants romantically in a way that yes, exists in pop music, but is not the norm. Classics such as "Run Away with Me" and "Call Me Maybe" all give CRJ the upper hand in the situation. A recurring theme throughout her entire catalogue is being confident enough to make the first move and speaking up for her own needs.

    • @davineuskens21
      @davineuskens21 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's cool, I dont know much about her music, but I know she has very loyal fans

  • @pr0m3th3us7
    @pr0m3th3us7 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    In every pop/rock song that has a string section, that string section carries the song. Call Me Maybe, Eleanor Rigby, Iris, Bittersweet Symphony, every single one just wouldn't work without the strings.

    • @sjoerdassenberg7293
      @sjoerdassenberg7293 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I wouldn't say *every*... but yeah it's done a lot. For some reason, even though you didn't mention it, the string part from viva la vida is stuck in my head now. lol.

    • @d_mickey
      @d_mickey ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I like the band version of tonight tonight better personally

    • @Steveofthejungle8
      @Steveofthejungle8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Drops of Jupiter

    • @ShadowWizard123
      @ShadowWizard123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Stop The Train ✋️

    • @moimeme6533
      @moimeme6533 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Come On Eileen

  • @daviddalby6217
    @daviddalby6217 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    I mean, CMM is alright, but for CRJ's true masterpiece "Run Away With Me' is the hero that wins it. Jesus Christ, that song is so fucking good.

    • @crimsonhawk52
      @crimsonhawk52 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Everything on Emotion (both sides) is instant classic. Your Type or maybe Boy Problems is my favorite, cant decide

    • @leftovernoise
      @leftovernoise ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Run away with me is honestly one of the greatest pop songs of all time. The whole album is banger after banger

    • @daviddalby6217
      @daviddalby6217 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Emotion/side B and Dedicated/Side B are all excellent albums, and Cut to The Feeling is also spectacular. CRJ is a modern marvel.

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sungazer's arrangement of 'Run Away With Me' takes that song to a whole new level!

    • @daviddalby6217
      @daviddalby6217 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@InventorZahran I love Adam Neely, but I really don't like that arrangement. The OG version of RAWM is perfect. It's one of those songs that should never be covered, because you won't better it (see also 'Another Girl Another Planet' by the Only Ones)

  • @muffinthefennec
    @muffinthefennec ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I love the instrumentalism of this song, that part being developed by fellow Canadian and Mariana's Trench singer, Josh Ramsay. I love Josh and his band, his blend of punk, pop, and in some cases softer metal works extremely well. Josh Ramsay is probably one of the most underrated musicians of our generation

    • @JamesOKeefe-US
      @JamesOKeefe-US ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Absolutely! Trencher for life :)

    • @ellenk560
      @ellenk560 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed, and even he feels the weight of this song, as he says in Pop 101: "They say where's the next hit, baby? God, how could I top Call Me Maybe?"... His songwriting and arranging just blows my mind.

  • @Viviantoga
    @Viviantoga ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The idea that 12Tone may have just implied that Guitar String/Wedding Ring would have been a stronger single from that album amuses me in a way that very few things can achieve.

  • @musicbydemarcus
    @musicbydemarcus ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Call me maybe truly is pop gem! The chorus/post chorus are a work of art. The production and arrangement really help to show the emotions the song is trying to convey

  • @ViltrumiteIsRite99
    @ViltrumiteIsRite99 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    SO CALL ME MAYBEE
    Wow, great timing. 10 years ago, this track was always on the radio during 8th grade. Catchy beat. 🤙

    • @profbbfab6211
      @profbbfab6211 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Apparently it's timeless, I'm a teacher and a month ago it was all the rage in of my 8th grade classes

  • @sfhenno7846
    @sfhenno7846 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I find myself wondering if the new acceptance of poly-key ideas comes from the birth of sampling? So many of the geniuses to pioneer that worked solely by ear, so they'd find complimentary loops that work "well enough" and treat the interesting conflicts as sort of blue notes. It makes sense that, since our pop music foundation is so heavily influenced by that, it's become part of our vocabulary. I think it's great because it's artists building by sound and not necessarily by rule, even though the "rules" generally end up illustrating and shaping the process as well.

    • @MalloonTarka
      @MalloonTarka ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I obviously can't speak for others, but my process is very much based on what I think would sound good. I mostly use the rules as a good source of inspiration, not a code to live by.

    • @sfhenno7846
      @sfhenno7846 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MalloonTarka I think that's awesome. I feel sampling has offered a way to return to thinking within sound, which is opening so many doors for artists such as yourself simply because the popular-music ear is expanding (again) to embrace new flavors. And it doesn't negate the rules at all because they exist to describe what's happening musically, not entrap us.

    • @amandacapsicum686
      @amandacapsicum686 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes! I think you're right. It is also probably related to the use of sequencers which let you pitch an entire chord up or down without changing it between major and minor.
      I Feel Love worked in this way, a song which influenced the development of both EDM and Pop in the post electronic landscape.
      There's a video out there that calls it Chord Planing but I can't remember who by.

    • @sfhenno7846
      @sfhenno7846 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amandacapsicum686 Oh thank you, I'll have a look for the video. I totally hear what you're saying, and even have a personal obsession with I Feel Love because of how "modern" it sounds. I hadn't put in into context with its influence so I have more digging to explore. Which is awesome. Thank you.

  • @ssatva
    @ssatva ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It almost feels like the ending empties out a bit, almost as if the intent were to leave you wanting more? Which for an earworm is kind of brilliant.

  • @AlaskaSkidood
    @AlaskaSkidood ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I wonder if the climax chorus section was left intentionally smaller in order to end the song leaving the listener wanting for more? If the song had a perfect dynamic cycle, it would have felt more complete at the end. However, with leaving just a little bit of potential energy out, it makes the listener feel like there's more to the story. Maybe you continue listening to the album? Maybe you hit repeat? Maybe it's stuck in your head for the next 68 hours?

    • @rmdodsonbills
      @rmdodsonbills ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think you might be on to something there. I've been paying attention to the songs that get stuck in my head and it's not the ones that I've learned/memorized/internalized, it's songs that the music parts of my brain are working on, like I don't know all the lyrics or there's a tricky melody, or something like that. Maybe not bringing to the logical conclusion induces your brain to keep coming back to try to work it out.

    • @mrsteamie4196
      @mrsteamie4196 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@rmdodsonbillsooooo I like the conclusion you guys have come to! I'll have to keep an eye out as well, that's curious. I wonder if any musicologists or psychologists have ever written on similar points?

  • @Dog-Jet
    @Dog-Jet ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Underrated, Carly has multiple bangers on every album

  • @markowalski1
    @markowalski1 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Carly Rae Jepsen is so underrated, absolutely my favorite pop singer.

  • @garfeeble
    @garfeeble ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the fact i listened to this 2 days ago for the first time in YEARS and then this video comes out is scary to say the least

    • @ocean_0602
      @ocean_0602 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Carl Jung’s concept of synchronicity :)

    • @garfeeble
      @garfeeble ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ocean_0602 THAT SOUNDS COOL IM GONNA RESEARCH IT NOW

    • @silkyz68
      @silkyz68 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Algorithm knows

  • @trademarkshelton
    @trademarkshelton ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You threw it out very briefly and casually, but I was struck when you said, "For me, the goal of analysis isn't to get inside the artist's head, it's to get inside a listener's." It's a cool thought that wasn't ever really posed to me in any of my music classes, but it makes a lot of sense. After all, as much as you want to understand how a piece of art was made, it's just as important if not more so to understand what makes it have an effect on the audience.

  • @IsaiahBoutz
    @IsaiahBoutz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is nobody going to talk about the chimera ("combination") at 6:06? I almost started crying... again!

  • @colinmunro3158
    @colinmunro3158 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Call Me Maybe was so prevalent on Canadian radio stations in the summer of 2012 that to this day there are people who initially liked the song who wish to never hear it again.

  • @carubnut
    @carubnut 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That subtle reference to FMA is crushing it all.

  • @0nYxJester
    @0nYxJester ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay, that FMA chimera was completely unnecessary and absolutely perfect.

  • @elitettelbach4247
    @elitettelbach4247 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve always loved Call Me Maybe, but this video gave me an even deeper appreciation for it! Very fun presentation style. Loved all the doodles!

  • @TheDutchCreeperTDC
    @TheDutchCreeperTDC ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In the venn diagram with one circle showing people who are into music theory and the other circle showing people that like the song Call Me Maybe the overlapping section is probably not that big so I think it was really interesting and brave that you decided to make a video about it anyway and that's exactly why I decided to watch it.
    While I do think most musical ideas in this song are very tame you have to admit they're used very effectively and it made me think of the pixies a lot and how they use dynamic changes and simple motifs based on repetition, which is not a comparison I would've ever expected to make before watching this video.

  • @johnydl
    @johnydl ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the point at the end was to be a little disappointing, not every crush and longing is reciprocated, and the music video ties well into this point, she gets the excitement and nerves, goes out of her way, makes a fool out of herself and feels good doing so, but it didn't work out this time, and there's always another chance to try again another day or on another listen, I think this is one of the reasons why it's such an easy listen on loop song, I certainly did so for several weeks

  • @rustygray5058
    @rustygray5058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's awesome that you did a more recent pop song. A lot of people who do musical breakdowns tend to think that all the good music was made when they were kids and nothing since then has been worth listening to.

  • @tomaszmazurek64
    @tomaszmazurek64 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For the post-chorus guitar part, I have three main reasons. They are all based around the core dilemma of pop songs - how to have as much repetition as possible, but without making the song boring.
    1. Avoiding noticeable repetition. In loop based music there is a rule of thumb that somewhere between the third and fifth loop people start noticing the repetition - and you have to change something. The exact moment depends on the phrase, genre, how audible the phrase is etc. When I was listening to your mock up, even my "producer intuition" kicked in with "this would get repetitive fast". Listening closer I think the phrase is repeated 4 times verbatim during the post-chorus, so repeating it four more times in the following chorus and four more times during the second post would make it overstay its welcome. Removing it from chorus solves this easily.
    2. Audibility of the phrase. An interesting thing about this guitar phrase is that it isn't all that audible - the tail end of it sinks below the "so bad" in the vocal and we clearly hear only the soaring high notes at the start. Guitar and vocal fighting for attention is a pretty cool effect on its own in such an emotionally charged moment, but it also has the side effect of hiding the repetitiveness of the guitar section. Now with regular chorus lyrics being rather sparse, less intensive and lower in pitch, this wouldn't happen, the phrase would be audible as a whole and its repetitiveness would be more noticeable. I guess they would have to rework it for that context and with song coming for the final chorus they didn't want to introduce new melodic material.
    3. Identity of the section. Until you've pointed it out I didn't even notice the post-chorus was based on arrangement of the chorus, just with new vocal melody and a guitar part. I thought of this section as of a genuine bridge. But I feel like playing the guitar part also throughout the final chorus would've given the trick away, making it more noticeable that this is the chorus in disguise and making it all feel more repetitive.

    • @MuriKakari
      @MuriKakari ปีที่แล้ว

      Purely as a listener, the post-chorus without the guitar felt like she'd been working herself up and rehearsing and that post-chorus felt like where she actually said it.

  • @GiacomoBocca
    @GiacomoBocca ปีที่แล้ว

    6:05 the drawing for the word “combine” made me shiver… nice reference

  • @lemonpug6582
    @lemonpug6582 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Sheik drawing was perfect!

  • @CSXIV
    @CSXIV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a Mashup of the backing track of "Call Me Maybe" with the vocal track of NIN "Head like a hole." (They called it "Call me a hole.")
    The only thing more insane then the fact this Mashup exists is the fact that it works.

    • @allwaysareup
      @allwaysareup ปีที่แล้ว

      Ashley O - "On a roll" strike your fancy too?

    • @EilonwyWanderer
      @EilonwyWanderer ปีที่แล้ว

      The only thing more insane than the fact that it works, is the fact that it works... for karaoke!

  • @peristeronic37
    @peristeronic37 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As far as why she didnt include the guitar in the final chorus, I think it's representative of what she "missed" before theyre together. The chorus obviously is from the perspective of just as she approaches him while the post chorus is after they are together reflecting on before. She specifically says "before you came into my life I missed you so bad", and if you enterpret the guitar part as their deeper emotional connection then it only follows that the part would be missing when she first goes to approach him. The guitar part is literally missing from her life until after she's gotten to know him.

  • @johncenter4858
    @johncenter4858 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reason 4 : they just wanted to repeat the same same thing to really burn it in our head for the rest of our live. God I hate/love it !

  • @---rm8do
    @---rm8do ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember going on some field trip and hearing a bunch of my friends singing this at the top of their lungs while marching down the hotel hallway after I woke up. I hope I never forget this.

  • @somniloquous0
    @somniloquous0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    imo (iirc) this song, Teenage Dream and Digital Love all create a thematically-relevant sense of longing by mostly avoiding unambiguously resolving to the tonic chord

  • @thea-beez7693
    @thea-beez7693 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never had an earworm worse than this one! The chorus was literally stuck in my head for an entire summer and it was nothing short of pure torture.

  • @crunchyteardrops4663
    @crunchyteardrops4663 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s pretty satisfying is that the music video’s resolution goes along with the lack of guitar in the chorus! When Carly finds out her new infatuation is never going to feel back for her, I feel like she looses that longing. Just a theory on my part though

  • @invinciblebear94
    @invinciblebear94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so glad you analyzed this song, because it gives me (and it looks like several other fans) such a brilliant segue to calling for you to breakdown some of Marianas Trench’s greatest hits and albums. Josh Ramsay the Lead Singer and Frontman of that band co-wrote this song, and their albums (several of which are seamless transitions from start to finish) listen more like an opera or a musical theater soundtrack than individual songs and I’ve longed for a greater deep-dive into their music for a very long time. If I had one wish it would be to see a staggering majority of their music broken down and analyzed on this channel, but that would admittedly be quite an undertaking. I would absolutely settle for several deep dives on albums or pieces that tie into the others. There’s a lot of iteration on older music as they made more which is always fascinating to get to see; an artist revisiting their works and reimagining them under new circumstances with new themes to emphasize.

  • @thetraveller1246
    @thetraveller1246 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Time to break out my CRJ CD. Stop judging me

  • @JM-co6rf
    @JM-co6rf ปีที่แล้ว

    one of the GREATEST pop songs of all time

  • @Fly0High
    @Fly0High ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the instrumental of this music on my ipod and I can say it's annoyingly easy to get stuck in it for hours in a loop... thanks

  • @juanvillagar2958
    @juanvillagar2958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:08 "combined" don't remind me... the fact you sneaked that there lmfao (iykyk)

  • @DeGuerre
    @DeGuerre ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:18 I hear that as Eb7 with an added or suspended 9, which sounds perfectly consonant.

  • @Belbecat
    @Belbecat ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol the picture for "combining" things...... I choked 😂 and the Aphrodite heart for "weak", I see you

    • @Belbecat
      @Belbecat ปีที่แล้ว

      I usually just listen to your videos, but just realised from watching this one how much of an anime/manga and gamer you are too. That's cool 😏

  • @EthanHein
    @EthanHein ปีที่แล้ว

    THE CHORUS OF THE CHORUS

  • @baosia
    @baosia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know, this was so interesting I wanted to share it with my friend Nina, but she disappeared around 6:07... She's probably fine though, she's got her dog Alexander with her

  • @nthSonata
    @nthSonata ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't hear this song without thinking about the mashup of it and Head Like A Hole

  • @valviform
    @valviform ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm neither hesitance nor excitement, but a secret third thing

  • @nickwaters9869
    @nickwaters9869 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn it. I have to go listen to it a bunch of times now.

  • @injustanotherguy
    @injustanotherguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analysis.
    I was missing somethong important - this song is obviously meant to be enjoyed at 2x speed (not necessarily meant by its producers, but definitely meant by providence).
    I think an analysis on 2x would be a great follow-up

  • @katinasoleil
    @katinasoleil ปีที่แล้ว

    while we’re here talking about iconic pop songs, I would loooove to hear your analysis of “Crazy in Love”

  • @thornels
    @thornels ปีที่แล้ว

    The hybrid tonality really explains why I (a bassist) keep disagreeing with my band on the key of a song

  • @ViolentSpring
    @ViolentSpring ปีที่แล้ว

    CRJ has like two dozen absolutely perfect pop songs in her catalogue...at least that many!

  • @jordonbrennanmusic3
    @jordonbrennanmusic3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, love your channel. Wondering if you'd ever do a John Mayer song? He's got some interesting harmony snuck into a lot of his songs. Cheers!

  • @sevaspirin843
    @sevaspirin843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My explanation for the missing guitar isn't so much musical but more about the meaning of the song. I think it's meant more to break the dynamic of the song and restart it - over time we're attracted to many people and it doesn't work out with all of them, so this part signifies that this "process" can very much be restarted and repeated rather than a once in a lifetime love at first sight thing

  • @meghanhenderson6682
    @meghanhenderson6682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you know you've fallen too deep into analysis videos? You watch one about a song you've just barely managed to get away from. The ear worm is back.

  • @Leg3nd-27
    @Leg3nd-27 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda unrelated, but my handwriting is really bad. So I think it’s really impressive he’s able to draw these little cartoons and images with a sharpie all on one paper without messing up. My shaky ass hands can barely write my own name and keep it legible

  • @briancheetham9134
    @briancheetham9134 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just re-listened to the song and I think I understand what you are saying about the chorus at the end. But…I think if you add the extra instruments on that last chorus, the ending of the song-which is already very abrupt-would leave you feeling like you were in a car crash. I think the effect of the way it ends in the original recording, the listener is in kind of a daydream, what would happen if I just gave my number to this complete stranger. The abrupt end is when you snap out of the daydream. I don’t think the second chorus was supposed to crescendo the way you wanted it to. Daydreams don’t crescendo, they just sort of take you away for you know, 3 mins 13 seconds or so and then fizzle out.

  • @beard-lx9wg
    @beard-lx9wg ปีที่แล้ว

    You can't just drop that FMA reference without warning omfg

  • @sasren_7613
    @sasren_7613 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe that the guitar part is not demonstrating a sense of longing, but something new to add in her life at the end of her confessing that she needs to work on. After all, you may get along, but you also need to work on building your relationship with someone. The guitar in the post-chorus is too different from the rest of the song with the slight overdrive to show that this is something she never had in her life before like in the song.
    In conclusion, she gets the boy with the guitar that still needs to be refined like her relationship. The lyrics even say “Before you came into my life…” meaning that he is now a part of her life.

  • @wyattstevens8574
    @wyattstevens8574 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:27 Paraphrased: the texture drop may seem like it would be weak... but it's a beat drop!
    And the line before the drop [my addition] could be read as a riser!

  • @steveloge8119
    @steveloge8119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally asking the real questions

  • @DanielQwerty
    @DanielQwerty ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that earworm is in the English language now

  • @WarrenGarabrandt
    @WarrenGarabrandt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:06 OMFG

  • @peabody1976
    @peabody1976 ปีที่แล้ว

    This song won't be stuck, since I have six other albums' worth of songs to choose from. (With an eighth on the way!) But this was a very enjoyable dive into the history of The Song. :)

  • @JCEurovisionFan1996
    @JCEurovisionFan1996 ปีที่แล้ว

    Queen Carly, why you made my childhood back again?

  • @damianoakes2592
    @damianoakes2592 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a shame she didn't become a big star after this song because she's really developed a lot as an artist since then. It's like if David Bowie became mostly only known for "Space Oddity" but still did Ziggy Stardust and Aladdin Sane. And, yes, I did compare Emotion to Ziggy Stardust, because it is that good.

  • @pyrokamileon
    @pyrokamileon ปีที่แล้ว

    the opening of this song always reminds me of a track from Zelda Skyward Sword... 😮

  • @nunyabizz3357
    @nunyabizz3357 ปีที่แล้ว

    the version stuck in my head is the PMJ version. Von really sold that song.

  • @finalfantasiser
    @finalfantasiser ปีที่แล้ว

    To me, the song with the post chorus feels like she’s daydreaming, imagining theyre getting married or something, and then we snap back to reality. Thats why the chorus returns to normal.

  • @garyhitt1462
    @garyhitt1462 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Josh Ramsey is a songwriting god on the same level as Prince. Cmon and fight me

  • @tiffanypierson9262
    @tiffanypierson9262 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take a look at Mikey Bustos. He's a Canadian Filipino that does parodies of famous songs

  • @franckpolia2991
    @franckpolia2991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you again for your work, making me realize i should not judge too fast a song. Big catchy pop hit is not necessarly bad boring sh*tty composing.

  • @carbonmonoxide5052
    @carbonmonoxide5052 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:48 Different instruments in a song can also exist in multiple keys at the same time WITH obvious contradictions-that’s just the blues.

  • @cudi313
    @cudi313 ปีที่แล้ว

    GOAT CHANNEL

  • @microstorm
    @microstorm ปีที่แล้ว

    I had forgotten about that scene in F.M.A.........

  • @actuallytom
    @actuallytom ปีที่แล้ว

    At 6:08, i see what you did there, awesome 😂😂😂

  • @birdworldist
    @birdworldist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The strings always kinda scared me

  • @kaiaruliffson7593
    @kaiaruliffson7593 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the full metal alchemist reference was out of pocket

  • @jacobsims5848
    @jacobsims5848 ปีที่แล้ว

    They're talking to each other, but two aren't listening just like when you meet someone new lol

  • @Tipsyweeb
    @Tipsyweeb ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Man I gotta ask, when are you doing wolfmother- joker and the thief, I gotta hear that yarn

  • @pentalarclikesit822
    @pentalarclikesit822 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not my main type of music, but here would be my explanation for the lack of the "longing" guitar line. The "longing" , the love is to a degree hidden in the background. That may be where the narrator hopes to get, and may be where they end up. But that's not where the narrator is *now*. Right now, in the timeline of the song, it's bubbly, flirty lust.

  • @Secretlyanothername
    @Secretlyanothername ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Between the frantic synth, high energy guitar static line, and punctuated strings, this is a bold tune. It's balanced by the vocals, but it also goes well against the heavy vocals of Trent Reznor in Pomdeter's infamous mashup. CMM was produced by Dave Ogilvie, who has a history with NIN, Marilyn Manson, KMFDM and others. It's why this song has a hint of excited aggression and caught us all by surprise. th-cam.com/video/1lkuDm_g2ig/w-d-xo.html

  • @ComradeJehannum
    @ComradeJehannum ปีที่แล้ว

    It's ok, I'll clear the original version from My head by watching the best cover of this song, A METAL COVER!!!!!

  • @iamalittler
    @iamalittler ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You bastard! You just HAD to bring Nina Tucker into this, didn’t you?

  • @LightPink
    @LightPink ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you analysis a mash up song?

  • @notoriouswhitemoth
    @notoriouswhitemoth ปีที่แล้ว

    At this point, I'm prepared to say hybrid tonality seems to be the rule more than the exception when it come to modern pop music

  • @margothutton
    @margothutton ปีที่แล้ว

    When I think of putting to words the Je ne sais quoi of enjoying certain music, I think of you. I'm a Nebula subscriber, and would you mind if I respectfully pitch you a video idea?
    Media has influenced our perception of orchestral instruments and music to the point that a movie score no longer needs a movie.
    It's just as common to listen to Swan Lake while studying as listening to The Shape of Water's score while studying. But when I try to tell people that my favorite genre of music right now is orchestral movie/game score *style* music such as Eternal Eclipse, they automatically ask "What movie?" I think it's hard for people to picture why an artist would compose something that *sounds* like a movie score without being paid by Hollywood™ or even *how* one would compose it without having the movie first. Even if they jump past that, now you're stuck imagining why someone would listen to something movie score-esque without a preestablished emotional connection to the movie.
    "Say "orchestral" and people hear in their mind Tchaikovsky and Wagner. Say "Concerto," people look at you funny. But back in the era of classical music (and by "Classical" I mean "Baroque"), if you watch enough ballets and operas, by 1723 The Four Seasons is like "Hell Yeah!" Nowadays, if you engage with enough movies and games, by 2023 Fate of the Clockmaker is like "*Hell* yeah!"
    Eternal Eclipse has the same *umph!* as Vivaldi. (Ooh there's your video title!)

  • @thornels
    @thornels ปีที่แล้ว

    The accentuation difference between the strings and vocal line in the verse wouldn't be polyrhythmic, but polymetric, right?

  • @pearl-may
    @pearl-may ปีที่แล้ว

    This has me wanting to go on and compare the original vs Andy Rehfeldt's metal arrangement (with the original vocals).

  • @pushibanana1178
    @pushibanana1178 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still waiting for Understanding Coloratura. I know it's a newer song but still, it's unique.

  • @mariobutera2295
    @mariobutera2295 ปีที่แล้ว

    Analyze the DMX mashup version!

  • @ShadowDrakken
    @ShadowDrakken ปีที่แล้ว

    After the first verse, the original lines stop sounding pensive and start sounding sneaking around like a stalker XD

  • @Gurlzup123
    @Gurlzup123 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you were to take apart any Marianas Trench song from Everafter and on, you would see Josh Ramsey's fingerprints all over Call me Maybe.

  • @robertwilloughby8050
    @robertwilloughby8050 ปีที่แล้ว

    Want analysis of "Twilight Cafe" please.

  • @chrisSo91
    @chrisSo91 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But there's still one part I don't understand, where it gets quiet and everything else goes away and then a talking pizza roll comes out of the radio and tells you to kill your wife

  • @santileonsteinberg1441
    @santileonsteinberg1441 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love it if you deconstructed River by Miley Cyrus and Bittersweet Symphony

  • @itsaustincook99
    @itsaustincook99 ปีที่แล้ว

    So when are you going to release a banger?

  • @BeersAndBeatsPDX
    @BeersAndBeatsPDX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, i just met you and this is crazy.
    Here's my labyrinth.
    I stole your baby.

  • @v1e1r1g1e1
    @v1e1r1g1e1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Music Theory... Music Theory... Music Theory... Music Theory... Music Theory... Music Theory... yeah, yeah, yeah....
    .... all I see is a cute little girl porcupine singing the chorus and doing some dance moves in front of a koala.