This video doesn’t leave my watch later playlist. I watch it/listen to it all the time. This and a couple other long videos are like that. All on dialogue too. Thanks a million mate seriously.
Heh heh love it - Adam Levy merlot scene recalls Laurence Olivier snails-oysters bathhouse monologue censored from 1960 "Spartacus." Powerhouse scenes from Billy Wilder. Great vlog mate!
Great class, Karel! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge :-) Still here for your wise words soon to be five years after Immersion ;-) Cheers from Norway!
Just came across your channel, I’m hooked. Immediately subscribed. Thank you for taking the time to put this together. Looking forward to watching more.
Firstly, I really appreciate your videos. Great work. But I had to drop a comment, being a huge 'The Wire' fan. The example you gave regarding subtext, I found it hard to agree with. It was filled with layers. To me the subtext in this example was the demonstration of good po-lice. Both Bunk and McNaulty communicated with each other throughout the entire scene by using a phrase or a variation of that one phrase, only themselves understood (Friendship Subtext). No other officer in their department would have discovered the shell casing at the end of the scene (Natural Police Subtext). The case they built on Barksdale's crew wasn't enough until this discovery breakthrough to further support the wire tap, which also became quintessential to Barksdale's nephew story arc. We could talk about Baltimore being a subtext in the scene, or allowing the landlord to observe and be part of a crime investigation. I could be way off base regarding what the Subtext criteria is in your example, either way, I had to add a comment and would love to learn more. I think It's one of the best scenes from The WIre!! 😄
Now I re-watch my own video, because you make excellent points. When THE WIRE celebrated its 20th anniversary a few years back, I wanted to create a series of videos about it. But I had so much to say and so little time that nothing happened! Today, I would rather use that drinking scene at the end of the pilot as an example of subtext. David Simon writes subtext EVERYWHERE, but particularly the teasers of each episode are brimming with it. Thank you for your comment. I really appreciate it, and it's inspired me to go back to THE WIRE and do that video about that drinking scene. :) Cheers, Karel
swearing is interesting, is it the easy way out to express or do we not know how to express without swearing. I try not to use swearing and trust me i have a foul mouth personally but I try to see if I can create an emotion with no swearing and let the audience swear for me. Excellent presentation. Thank you for your time .
Profanity in screen drama is merely a reflection of reality. It's up to the writer how realistic they want to make their dialogue. I personally wouldn't shy away from it, certainly not if it is already part of my vocabulary.
Hey Brad, I think subtext is used because we do it in real life all the time. We rarely address the difficult subjects head-on... Thank you for your question! And please consider subscribing. Thank you. :) Cheers, Karel
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This video doesn’t leave my watch later playlist. I watch it/listen to it all the time. This and a couple other long videos are like that. All on dialogue too. Thanks a million mate seriously.
Thank you for the kind note!
Heh heh love it - Adam Levy merlot scene recalls Laurence Olivier snails-oysters bathhouse monologue censored from 1960 "Spartacus." Powerhouse scenes from Billy Wilder. Great vlog mate!
Thanks, Mickey! And thank you for subscribing.
There's more goodness to come, if time and circumstances allow.
Cheers,
Karel
Great class, Karel! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge :-) Still here for your wise words soon to be five years after Immersion ;-) Cheers from Norway!
You're so welcome!
Just came across your channel, I’m hooked. Immediately subscribed. Thank you for taking the time to put this together. Looking forward to watching more.
Same …. As a upcoming cinematographer
great class, thank you so much
Glad you liked it!
excellent - cheers
Firstly, I really appreciate your videos. Great work. But I had to drop a comment, being a huge 'The Wire' fan.
The example you gave regarding subtext, I found it hard to agree with. It was filled with layers. To me the subtext in this example was the demonstration of good po-lice. Both Bunk and McNaulty communicated with each other throughout the entire scene by using a phrase or a variation of that one phrase, only themselves understood (Friendship Subtext).
No other officer in their department would have discovered the shell casing at the end of the scene (Natural Police Subtext). The case they built on Barksdale's crew wasn't enough until this discovery breakthrough to further support the wire tap, which also became quintessential to Barksdale's nephew story arc.
We could talk about Baltimore being a subtext in the scene, or allowing the landlord to observe and be part of a crime investigation. I could be way off base regarding what the Subtext criteria is in your example, either way, I had to add a comment and would love to learn more.
I think It's one of the best scenes from The WIre!! 😄
Now I re-watch my own video, because you make excellent points.
When THE WIRE celebrated its 20th anniversary a few years back, I wanted to create a series of videos about it. But I had so much to say and so little time that nothing happened!
Today, I would rather use that drinking scene at the end of the pilot as an example of subtext. David Simon writes subtext EVERYWHERE, but particularly the teasers of each episode are brimming with it.
Thank you for your comment. I really appreciate it, and it's inspired me to go back to THE WIRE and do that video about that drinking scene. :)
Cheers,
Karel
Great channel!
big Thx
Great!!!
swearing is interesting, is it the easy way out to express or do we not know how to express without swearing. I try not to use swearing and trust me i have a foul mouth personally but I try to see if I can create an emotion with no swearing and let the audience swear for me. Excellent presentation. Thank you for your time .
Profanity in screen drama is merely a reflection of reality. It's up to the writer how realistic they want to make their dialogue. I personally wouldn't shy away from it, certainly not if it is already part of my vocabulary.
Question: Is subtext used to create familiarity with the audience like nostalgia to increase view retention along with visuals ? Brad from Jamaica 🇯🇲
Hey Brad,
I think subtext is used because we do it in real life all the time. We rarely address the difficult subjects head-on...
Thank you for your question!
And please consider subscribing. Thank you. :)
Cheers,
Karel
@@TheStoryDepartment thank you for responding and I am already subscribed. 🇯🇲🙏🏽
They’ve actually done studies, films with good subtext, have a better box office performance.
Do you have a reference on this? I'm interested.
Good writing is underrated. Dialogue is what makes people remember movies, quote them and recommend them
The start confused the hell outta me, was unsure what I was watching.
I must say I had the same response when I saw it the first time!
Cheers,
Karel
what film is the first example clip from?
I forgot! I found it on Vimeo, where it was one of the lowest ranked videos of their entire collection. I'll look it up for you!
Cheers,
Karel
I found it. It's called "Demur": www.imdb.com/title/tt2363531/
wait what does 'scripted' mean in this context?
What is the context? (timestamp?)
Typically it just means that it was not improvised or ad-libbed, but written by the screenwriter.