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- A demonstration of how I framed 2x6 wood walls on a roofed patio to create a new room and expand living space. This is video #5 in my porch conversion series.
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Porch Conversion Video Playlist
Vid #1: Remove Siding Demolition
• Remove Vinyl Siding.. ...
Vid #2: Remove Brick Demolition
• How To Remove Brick.. ...
Vid #3: Pour Concrete Over Old Concrete
• Pour A Concrete Slab O...
Vid #4: Add Anchor Bolts Into New Concrete Floor
• How I Epoxy (Glue) Anc...
Vid #5: Framing Walls To Enclose Old Porch Space
• How I Framed Walls To ...
Vid #6: Rough-In Electrical Installation
• How To Run Wire in New...
Vid #7: Installing Plywood Sheathing
• Installing Plywood She...
Vid #8: Installing Windows
• How I Installed Window...
Vid #9: Installing Sliding Glass Door
• Installing A Large Sli...
Vid #10: Exterior Siding Installation
• HardiePlank Siding, In...
Vid #11: Insulation and Drywall
• Installing Insulation ...
Vid #12: Installing Plank Flooring
• Install Engineered Vin...
These walls needed to be stick framed in place one piece of lumber at a time. This strategy differs from an often more common approach where walls are built on the ground and raised into place. Standing framed walls was not an option here so I show my techniques on how I built these walls one piece of wood at a time. I simply needed to incorporate some design planning, a few tools (saw, drills, measuring tape, etc), and 2 X 6 Lumber.
Porch Conversion playlist
• Porch Conversion To Ho...
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A demonstration of how I framed 2x6 wood walls on a roofed patio to create a new room and expand living space. This is video #5 in my porch conversion series.
Tools and materials: (Amazon Affiliate Links)
Stainless steel screws: amzn.to/2yNstlo
Circular Saw: amzn.to/2x9R53N
Drill: amzn.to/2zBRTA5
Impact Driver: amzn.to/2zDuVII
Porch Conversion Video Playlist
Vid #1: Remove Siding Demolition = th-cam.com/video/6dkWLkV5KD4/w-d-xo.html
Vid #2: Remove Brick Demolition = th-cam.com/video/rnIKqe40nEI/w-d-xo.html
Vid #3: Pour Concrete Over Old Concrete = th-cam.com/video/zrcwuhsHCA8/w-d-xo.html
Vid #4: Add Anchor Bolts Into New Concrete Floor = th-cam.com/video/OTEVIL_HcOg/w-d-xo.html
Vid #5: Framing Walls To Enclose Old Porch Space = th-cam.com/video/IBOOc8Eq1UM/w-d-xo.html
Vid #6: Rough-In Electrical Installation = th-cam.com/video/X2vWtlUe2dw/w-d-xo.html
Vid #7: Installing Plywood Sheathing = th-cam.com/video/MshTywiDSmk/w-d-xo.html
Vid #8: Installing Windows = th-cam.com/video/8E8EKAHbTA0/w-d-xo.html
Vid #9: Installing Sliding Glass Door = th-cam.com/video/rwQpJGRzW28/w-d-xo.html
Vid #10: Exterior Siding Installation = th-cam.com/video/25uyLRWP1os/w-d-xo.html
Vid #11: Insulation and Drywall = th-cam.com/video/IKuZ_HphYHE/w-d-xo.html
Vid #12: Installing Plank Flooring = th-cam.com/video/T5c0zXwEUHo/w-d-xo.html
I’m doing the same when it came starting the permit, did you draw up the whole house or just the area that’s enclosing.
I enclose my patio by watching all your videos. Thank You Soo Much..
This video is so well-done and helpful - explanations, pacing, information, camera work...all excellent! Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the supportive comment.
Very easy to understand and follow for anyone with even a small amount of experience. Thanks guy!
Thanks for watching and the supportive comment.
Thank you for your video! It has assisted me greatly in building my room on my porch!
You're very welcome! Let us know how your new room addition turns out.
Truly appreciate the way you explained why you did something. Nicely done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amen, ha! Very creative work. So is the narration. If only my porch was a wee bit larger....
Thanks for the comment Matt. This porch was about 10' X 12' if that helps put it in perspective.
Excellent demonstration. Thanks!
Thanks Bob
@@MrKistel You are welcome. You have a gift for "showing and telling" hot-to construction. I like that you kept things on topic and moving along quickly--"just the facts," so to speak.
This is the video I’ve been looking for Great job
Awesome, thank you!
Cool tip with the counter pulling screws!
thanks!
You make it look so easy!
Video editor had to cut out a bunch of swear words in post-production. HaHa!
Awesome work, I should be uploading my guest house construction footage soon. Thanks for inspiring me.
thanks and best of luck with your guest house addition project
Me gusta esos tips ,me atudan mucho para mis travajos gracias x mostrar sus conocimientos les agradecí
Gracias por el comentario
What a beautiful thing
thanks
I like that they way you start and finished it
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Cool video. No irritating music!! Definitely watch the rest!
Thanks David and thanks for watching the rest of the video series regarding converting a porch into a new room living space.
@@MrKistel I actually watched all the rest last night. You did a wonderful job. And your family will really enjoy it 👍
Really well done video thanks
Thanks for the flattering comment Rick, hope the video was helpful in some way for you.
Supposed to nail it
Nice review
Well done. 2 thumbs up
awesome thank you
Nice job mate! Considering basic tool usage.
Thanks for watching and commenting
It's nice to see someone do it right.
Thanks for watching and the comment Donnell
Das ist ein gutes Video !
Vielen Dank
Joe, I am impressed with your precise measurements and attention to all the details to construct this properly. You are a fine builder and craftsman. I am hoping to do this to an area under my steel roof wrap around porch. Are you available in Northwest New Jersey?
Thanks for the kind comment regarding the new addition wall framing video. Unfortunately I am not available however I wish you the best of luck with your building project.
Nice framing job! Like the use of screws instead of nails, more time but better quality and stability.
Thanks MAC, Screws were the ideal fastener for the house addition framing project.
We use screws for everything we build. They are more secure and eliminate having squeaky nails in flooring over time. The other thing is, if you need to take something apart, it's easy to do and the wood can be reused in most cases. I like the Torx screws.
Great job videoing
Thank you! It is nice to hear when video and production efforts are noticed. Often times it takes more effort for the production side of these videos then the work I am actually demonstrating.
Man you got skill bro.
Glad you think so, thanks! Have a great week.
A good video Thanks
Awesome, Thanks
Thank you!
You're welcome!
i feel like i'm watching ron hazelton's video on his four season porch video...exact same...lol love it..very good video.
Awesome, his video is great! Thanks for watching and the comment.
Hi! Your videos are so helpful and very grateful for them - May I offer feedback - would you be able to list out the tools and supplies you use in more detail? For example, had to pause to find out the epoxy, etc. Thanks for your time 👏
Thank you for your kind comment and insight. I do try to list items in the text description areas under videos published but I can definitely work on being more consistent and detailed. Thanks again.
very nice
Thank you the new room addition build project definitely added some usable space in the house.
This looks so great. I wish we had someone like you to hire in California.
Thanks for the flattering comment. Hope you get a chance to watch the two playlist I created for this project so you can see the entire project from start to finish.
Wish you was in AZ. I can't find any one that will help me unless they want to charge me a arm and leg. I am looking to do something like this for my birds so the can have sunshine year around.
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How did you attach the 2x4 to the wall after you removed the brick?
Looks Great bro, this will be helpful for me to convert a 12 x 12 deck into sunroom/pantry area. keep up the good work.
Awesome, Best of luck with your project. Here is a link to the entire video playlist showing the porch conversion to new addition in case it might be helpful th-cam.com/video/6dkWLkV5KD4/w-d-xo.html
Thank you bro. I appreciate it. I will take a look at the entire process. thanks again.
Maybe take some before and after pics or vid and post it up on your channel when complete. Would love to see how it turns out.
I am currently enclosing my deck as well however I am not quite sure how to tackle the existing floor. I have 5/4 pressure treated deck boards spanning the entire floor not concrete as you have. The deck floor is in perfect shape and looks very nice however now that it will be enclosed I don't think this type of floor will be suitable for an indoor living space. Can I just lay a 3/4 plywood subfloor directly on top of the existing deck or what would you suggest??
great! looking how to build a breezeway between a house and garage but they are 2 separate heights...and have to connect rooflines, any suggestions would be helpful loved your video!
Thanks for watching and the comment. It is tough to comment on your project not being familiar with it. Perhaps there is a local engineer on contractor you can have take a look. Keep me posted with how it all works out. Thanks
Can I do this on a covered flagstone patio? What bonding agent is best for making sure water doesn’t deep in under the walls?
I have a breezeway 6 feet by 20 feet along the back of my house with one side and one end open. I think it was designed to let you walk from the garage to the back door and stay under the roof. I want to enclose the open side and end with windows to make a mudroom and breakfast nook. This video makes me think I could do it.
O wow, best of luck with your project.
Great video ...my question is ,1 the other post will be not corner but 1/4 from 10 ft but I'm doing the idea ... thanks again... hoping for your kind response
Thanks for the comment but I am not sure I understand your question.
Which country and suburbs are you from that was great,and a very clear explanation .
Thanks Frank, this was a project in the US
Great Job! Could you share the plans provided for HOA/Building Permits?
Thanks, I believe there are some graphics shown in the full video here th-cam.com/video/FbF8-9KVP74/w-d-xo.html that may have been used in plans.
Great video! Would the very first consideration in this project is shopping for the windows and then use the windows sizes as the first parameter before you design on Sketch-Up?
Also why did you go with screws instead of nails. Do you need to pull permit in this city?
I did confirm the windows and their dimensions before completing a final design. I just preferred to use screws.
@@quocducnguyen Screws are easier to put in, and can be removed easily... and then can be reused, and modern coated deck screws have plenty of shear strength especially if you're using 2x6 framing like this.
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2x6 is great choice, more room for batt insulation, so we can get bat R90-R160 inside a house. No one can get that much insulation R value in a house except the 9-duice
Thanks Leonard, one off the reasons for choosing the 2 X 6 wood studs was for the extra insulation capability.
I watched all your videos. I am plan on doing this myself what length of tapcon screws did you use. And was wondering how well the structure is doing now?
What did use tapcon screws versus rebar and mesh to hold the concrete?
Thanks for watching the videos and the comment. The addition is holding up perfectly.
We're building a Sunroom in our backyard in our living
Sounds like an awesome project, keep us posted with how the process goes and thanks.
Hello Mate, Cheers from the land down under.
I am looking to do this as well.
How did you water-proof the bottom to ensure water doesn't sip through and the wood is not damaged.
Cheers,
Thank you. In part the sponge pad placed under the boards that lay on the floor helps. In addition when the siding is installed it is done so in a way it hangs over the wood making sure water passes by. See the remaining videos in this room addition project video series to get a better idea of how it all comes together.
Do you have any suggestions on enclosing a very small side porch (4ft X 6ft) with black iron railing and 3 concrete steps? I'm enclosing this porch for 2 outside cats! Thank you!
Sounds like a fun new room enclosure project. I do not completely understand your situation but perhaps you can just screen in the area in for the cats if the climate allows?
What if I don't have bolts already in the slab?
How much did this end up costing for materials?
Hey man great video very informative. Can I just ask why you used 2x6 wood for walls and had to notch them out to work with the top plate instead of just using 2x4 lumber?? Just curious
Thanks Andres. I used 2 X 6 framing mainly because I like a beefy wall and wanted the ability to add extra insulation. I think I had another particular reason for this project but I cannot recall of the top of my head.
@@MrKistel thanks so much for the info. Can I ask how much you spent on the whole project?? Looking to do something very similar and just want to know what I’m in for
Part B to my question, what do you think it would cost to have a company come out and do all that for you?
Wow, that is built like a brick SH&%HOUSE. Good Job.
Thanks Pete
When you make your plans, do you make the plans according to the windows you have, or do you make the windows fit the way you're going to frame it? Not sure if windows have standard sizes or are commonly custom made.
Great question! In this case I knew the dimensions of the windows before I designed the wall framing plans. I made the openings the appropriate size to properly fit the windows.
@@MrKistel Thanks. So I'm guessing most windows have standard sizes and I should draw my plans accordingly.
Where do you operate from, what state?
I'd like to build an enclosed front porch. I am curious if you needed a permit and inspection for this project.
Best of luck with your project. This particular project did involve a permit and building inspections.
MrKistel thanks! Looks good by the way!
MrKistel, How much did this project run you altogether. i am wanting to do something similar but need to know about how much it will cost. thanks so much
They are many unique variables to these types of projects and the cost for constructing a room addition will depend on many things. I would recommend trying to estimate all the materials and services you will need for your project to get a better idea and/or talk to a contractor to get an estimate. Best of luck, let me know if you move forward with the build. Thanks
I have the same size back porch and would like to use your renderings. Do you have a google doc you could share with me via email because I want to use your exact plan if you don't mind. My only other question is, how did you get the rebar into the concrete if the slab is prexisting?
Pease feel free to check out the other videos in this new room addition project for a reference (links in the video description area). No rebar was incorporated into the concrete. Best of luck with your project.
Sorry, didnt view all the videos yet so, which one do you recommend watching that includes how to frame in a door. Our old porch door was just hung on the 2x4 openings. There's no bottom plate or threshold!
The video that shows the sliding glass door installation may be helpful. Thanks
Any difference if your patio has Tile floor? I want to add a new wall ( with a window and door) .and make a enclosed hallway from a patio door to a connecting room under the patio roof.
I have heard of others who have framed new walls over tile with acceptable results.
My question is for the window opening?can I use 2x4 thats all I have,because I have a roof beam 3 1/2 x 7 1/4 and the size of the wall is 6'6" h x 8'8 1/4"(window size is 48"h x60"w)how can you help me? thanks for your kindness.
Be blessed..
Might be best to contact your local building department as they may have specific requirements. Best of luck.
What design program did you use? I know this is from 6 years ago but the help would be appreciated
sketch up
earthquake proof, huh. lol. Great job, my critique in the future when doing major projects, spend the money and get some better tools, they will pay for themselves time and time again. Also, use some nails, screws shear when conditions arise, nails bend and conform with continued support.
thanks for the framing tips
Why does everything have to be better? The tools he had were just fine, what if he had just a nail and hammer? Would he need better nails and a better hammer? The job was done and it was good
Hey closed my back porch made it into dinning room but it's cold my furnace can't keep up. Might just install french doors and use it only for when we're about to eat? Idk any ideas
Thanks for sharing. The furnace system in your house was likely selected based on its ability to properly maintain the original house size. It may not be able to handle the additional space created from the new room addition. If that is the case it seems like adding a barrier like the doors you mention may be a good bet. Also the room can be better insulated if possible. Let us know how you proceed and thanks again.
Some how I feel my experience will differ lol
Best of luck with your wall framing project
Did you do the concrete slab
Thanks, and yes. The link to the video showing the concrete slab installation is in the video description area.
Where did the anchor bolts come from? At the start of the video they aren't there in the concrete, but they're there when you're ready to lay your sill plate?
Vid #4: Add Anchor Bolts Into New Concrete Floor
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I see, there are other videos where you pour an entirely new concrete pad on top of the existing one.
@@HaploBartow yes if you check in the video description area of this video you will see links to all the videos for this porch to new room conversion project.
How did you level slop to slab?
I used a water level. I demonstrate this in the concrete pour video related to this project. The link should be in the video description
Do you do come to El Paso Tx
sounds like fun
Thought this was framing in a patio not building a bomb shelter. That is solid asf.
Ya John, likely the strongest walls in the whole house. HA! Thanks for watching and commenting.
How can I have the drawing, I have similar porch.This is great
Thank you. What drawing specifically are you looking for regarding the porch conversion?
What app did you use to design the porch?
The app was almost certainly SketchUp. www.sketchup.com/
I need you help to do this one., Who is a General Constructor this?
Thanks, I hope my video series on this porch to room addition can suffice for my lack of being there in person.
Anyone know why the screws were stainless steel in some parts? I'm guessing the other screws were regular screws?
Stainless was not absolutely necessary for this project however I did utilize them for some of the framing. The remaining screws were decking type screws.
What design/CAD software did you use?
Sketch up
if you were in S. Cali I would hire you
Thank you for the flattering comment. I am sure there are many folks out that way that are more qualified then me. Best of luck with wall framing project.
I want to enclose my patio like this but my roof overhang goes about 4 inches into the patio where my wall would be (my patio has a slanted roof). Can I still enclose it? Do I just notch the 2x4s around the roof overhang?
Will, I am not sure I am clear of what you are asking. If you are referring to the beams that holds up your roof it would likely be easiest to build/frame the walls directly under the beams. That is what I did in this example. I used 2x6's instead of 2x4's so I had to notch the 2x6's to wrap around the beam which had a width of a 2x4.
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Here is a link to a picture. (Hopefully you can open it) The roof comes under the patio.
Thanks for your help!
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The other side
you used screws on the whole job ?
what is stronger nails or screws ?
what last longer screws or nails ?
I prefer screws as I feel they are better with securing over the long run. Many professional framers use nails though which hold up well when properly utilized. It takes more time and effort for screws but I do not mind that.
I used nails but in many different directions so no nails will pop out
That should be perfect, nice work.
Screws are fine as long as they are not subject to shear loads.
unless they are SPAX
Can this be done on an existing concrete slab on my patio?
This room was built on top of an existing concrete floor after we poured additional concrete on top of it to make the new floor level with the living space floor. This is the video we made of that process that may help you determine if you are able to do something similar or not. Thanks th-cam.com/video/zrcwuhsHCA8/w-d-xo.html
would this still work if there was no screws inside foundation already?
not sure I understand the question
Are the stainless screws used to frame structural. I’ve learned that screws are brittle and that’s why you’re supposed to frame in nails and not screws. Are those special stainless framing screws? Can you share the product because I’d like to use it?
Hardware product info is provided in the video description. Local building authorities were fine with using screws to frame this room addition.
@@MrKistel thanks for your reply
Wondering what the cost turned out to be? (materials not time/labor/tools)
The wood framing part of the project was one of the less costly components. The cost of the lumber and fasteners were the main cost here and the room did not require a significant amount of framing wood.
Did you need to pull any permits for this?
Permits were pulled for this project to convert the porch into a new room addition.
what was the approximate price of this project? thank you.
Thanks for commenting. The total price of a room addition project will vary greatly depending the unique variables to each project. I hope the converting a porch into a living space videos were helpful for you.
Why no plastic on concrete below 2x6 ?
A plastic barrier was not determined necessary for this room addition project. There were several reasons for this including the type of flooring utilized and the condition of the original patio floor the new concrete floor was poured over.
Looks great... use nails next time ... a ton more shear strength
Thanks for the hardware consideration when framing.
How do you decide how high to build the sill of the frame?
A concrete pad was poured on top of the old porch floor matching the level of the concrete floor of the house. The wood walls were built directly off the new concrete pad height.
@@MrKistel Thanks for that. What I'm really looking for is I am wondering if there is a standard height for windows off of the floor level. Or is it the level of the top of the window that is important?
Thanks Jack, in this case the window height was chosen primarily by personal preference.
@@MrKistel Ok thanks for that. I have been doing searches and it seems that you can line up the top of the windows with your doors. But to me that doesn't seem that important so I think I'll just do the same as you.
Why did you use 2 X 6 as opposed to 2 X 4 framing ?
To add thicker insulation in the walls and it also help with framing spacing based on how the existing roof beams were oriented.
How much would something like this cost in material?
The framing materials for a small addition could be relatively inexpensive. to get a rough idea you can estimate of rough idea of the amount of lumber you will need and then price out the cost at a local wood supplier.
What was the size of yur patio. How much you spend for all
The new room was built within an approximately 10' by 12' covered porch area.
Does anyone know how much this could cost? Of course, I only expect a rough estimate.
A DIY new room addition project cost will vary greatly depending on the unique circumstance and expectations of each individual build. The best way to get a realistic idea is to roughly design the room, estimate the materials needed, and price those materials and any additional services that may be required.
What software did you use to design?
That software was definitely SketchUp. www.sketchup.com/
How much is a reasonable price for a job done like yours
I can't speak for any other specific project, but I would suggest a way to get a good idea would be to try to get a few estimates from reputable companies. Each region has different considerations, and every project has its own variables affecting cost. Best of luck with your project.
Great job But the sill foam is supposed to go on top of the sill not between the sill and the concrete. it is going to hold moisture there with that sill foam under your plate.
Thanks for watching Jeff
Please say you live in DFW area?
Sure don't but I hope the framing walls video was insightful for you. Thanks for commenting.
Hi,
Did you have to get a permit for this?
Permits were issued for this project
Can u make.me some plans for my patio
I am flattered you ask and I am hopeful my videos on this new room addition construction project are helpful enough. Best of luck with your new room build.
I have a brick porch that I'd like to turn into a 4 seasons room. About how much would it cost to have someone do that for? I wish that I knew how to do this stuff, it'd be so much cheaper and even possible. I have a feeling, I'll never get my dream of closing in my porch. :(
Thanks for watching. It is hard to estimate what your cost would be if you had converted your porch into a room addition. I am sure if you reached out to some local contractors they would be willing to give you a ballpark price point or detailed estimate. Best of luck.
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Why not use a 2x6 top plate instead of a 2x4?? Totally not a Carpenter here but curious
Oh i think i see you wanted to extended the wall upward pass the beam height right???
Yes to have a have a continuous mounting surface for the wall plywood sheathing. In hindsight it might have been easier to use a 2"X6" top plate and just block out the area above it.