I seriously wonder if controlling entitled people are the ones setting up HOAs all the time, or if it's just a case of the old "Power corrupts..." saying and most people can't seem to handle getting any authority without it going to their head. It could also just be the same problem as other positions of power, the type of people to abuse power are also the ones most likely to spend a lot of effort seeking it out.
The last story where you were a teacher and the school would not pay you your money when you got fired I used to work for Hut of the pizza and I saw the manager do something really bad and I called the cops the manager fired me and refused to pay me for over a month and a half so I called the corporate offices and I told them and they said wow why didn't you tell us that I said that's not my job so they paid me all the money it was about a couple thousand dollars I wasn't really supposed to get that much so they fired the manager then they called me back and asked me if I wanted to be the assistant manager and I told them NO lol 😅
First story I'd love to see that one go to court at least in the US, though I'm not sure that story occurred in the US. The term estate is more common in England and such. As long as OP wasn't staring in windows and only observing from places where he is allowed to be Karen doesn't have a legal leg to stand on. The courts pretty much upheld universally there is no expectation of privacy in public and on her porch it might as well be public Teaching story how do you teach someone if they aren't there and it disrupts the class when someone comes in late. This tell me OPs school was more worried about money coming in and maybe reputation than actually doing what they are being paid for educating the student
I find it hard to believe the first story. I'm not an expert in property law and there is always the possibility that this is in a country where property law might work like this. But I have never heard of land being sold off in parcels still somehow belonging legally to the main plot of the original property. This seems like some medieval feudalism bs.
Yep, you never know when a Karen may go off the deep end in the future and tie you up in legal claims that will cost a ton to fight, even if you win in the end.
I doubt that it was an actual ownership. I know someone in a similar situation where they live in an old farm house with a few outbuildings, it used to be my friends aunt that owned it until she died, and she had sold off the majority of the farm property to a developer though the way it was done added special rights to the owner of the farm home in connection to the rest of it. Basically, they aren't subject to the rules of the HOA the developer wanted and have full access to any "common amenities" that would be put in there (In that case, a pool, stocked lake, walking paths, gym, and a few other things) without required payment for it. It was a perpetual clause thing for it that couldn't be removed with a setup that dropping the special benefits meant that they either owed her quite a bit of cash immediately or she could pay back the purchase price and reclaim ownership of the property in whole. When their HOA shifted from developer to owner hands, they tried pulling some crap...and there's been a few random other things but it tends to be when there are heavy shifts in the board there to people who don't realize the legal restrictions that are part of it. The OP having additional benefits in a similar situation is rather easy to see there
Last: I wonder about the quality of education in that country, if school admins are worried about upsetting parents by telling them the truth about their lazy/ bad tempered students and instead prefer to fire the teacher trying to teach and imposing boundaries.
I hope that some day police officers will learn that they are not required to respond to illegal calls and should be informing Karen's that untruthful calls ARE illegal!!
A bit down the road from where my parents lived, was a large estate. One house and a huge, I mean HUGE, lot. After the owners passed on, the land was sold to a developer who parceled it into small pieces, built modest homes on them and then sold them. The person who purchased the original main home, was NOT the 'landlord' of any of those other properties. Hubby and I looked into purchasing until we saw the asking price, roll my eyes! But no, we would not have been 'tenants' of the person who owned the original home.
OP of the last story should have also sued Karen too, she was the one that got them fired so she had a part in the firing and it didn't matter if she was an important person as she was still meant to follow the laws, if her kid is playing up in school it's her and the kid fault, not the teacher fault that a kid wants to be unruly as those kids grow up thinking they are above the law only to have their world come crashing down around them when they end up in jail
Paging all U.S. Truckers. Alcohol and illicit substances in the cab of your truck are illegal here in all 50 states. Most Companies have a zero tolerance for that kind of activity. You will get terminated, period. There's enough impaired idiots on the roads here in this country w/o a vehicle weighing 40 tons or being driven by an impaired driver.
I would never be in a home owners Association. If you buy a home you should be able to do whatever you want. Might as well rent for ALL the trouble you get from an HOA.
The thing about HOAs is that they can be beneficial to preserve your property value. If you want to sell your house but your neighbor insists on having an old rust-bucket on cinder blocks sitting on his front lawn which he hasn't mowed in months, then I doubt you'd be able to sell your house without taking a huge loss. A reasonable HOA would ensure that this didn't happen. The problem, of course, is that an HOA is to sociopaths what potato salad sitting on a picnic table is to flies: they can't help but be attracted to it and end up ruining it.
1S. She did not withdraw because she didn't have a leg to stand on. She doesn't have money from the HOA to support her harassment of OP. Or in case she lost. She can stuck the money to HOA because she did for the HOA.
I would have to say the 1st story was from someone's vivid imagination regarding retribution on an HOA and was void of any sort of reality LOL. Seriously, he is a "Landlord" when everyone owns their own property and homes built on that property??? This is not the Middle Ages with Dukes and Barons retaining ownership of "lands" whereas the peasants are "granted rights" to live and work those lands. Those days are long gone since that sort of structure would mean the KING (or Queen), would still technically and legally own ALL of the land in their realm and I don't know of any country that still operates like that LOL.
If you bought a home, lived in it for years, and then agreed to subject yourself to an HOA that didnt previously exist, I have no sympathy for you. The problems with HOAs are well known. I am sure there are some decent or even good HOAs. But I've never heard of one. Just say no.
yeam unless the story is from some country with antient domain from a serf lord, it makes no sense, plus why would someone who had the authority to abolish an HOA make a compromise, talk about a glutton for punishment.
Home owners' associations have absolutely no legal standing and you can do what you wish provided there is no covenant about it in your property deeds.
once again it shows what greedy sharks abound in the legal profession Case might be frivolous and stupid but the lawyers despite knowing that it is a no win case still procceds with the case just so they can milk.the suer for all they can Action should be taken against unscrupulous lawyers who do that and they should also be heavily fined Especially when it comes to HOAs with their idiotic fining and sueing
Story 1: Doubt the story is real, but if it were, OP should have disbanded the HOA. Hot water story: CPS should have been involved. It's obvious that the mother and grandmother did it to the kid to get money!
The first story don't make sense if the land was sold then the owner of the house that was the original house on a estate still have nothing to do with the rest of the property so claims of being the landlord of property that doesn't belong to you sounds like you are the Karan of the story
The first story is completely fake, my nephew is a attorney and specializes in international law and has worked for multiple different countries Embassies and he has verified no country he can find has the type of law that backs up the first story. I'm really tired of fake stories. They are entertaining but just be honest and say they are just entertaining stories.
The law with it is probably from agreements between the original estate/property owner and the developers written into the sale contract. I know someone who had a similar thing there.
@@ej2953 It's more of a specific deed restriction tied into the contract for selling the land there. Basically, it's part of the sale agreement that specific things happen with it, for example, you can have part of the contract be that the property not be used for certain purposes or limit it to a specific purpose. One example is the way a local family "donated" land to the local schools, it's donated specifically as a "land laboratory" and if they violate any of the school system or city violate the specific agreements, it reverts back to the families ownership and control. Things like a developer buying the property to develop it might agree to restrictions and/or requirements for a better land price with other requirements for both sides of the contract, those often then get added as deed restrictions for the properties in how things are handled, or even rights specifically listed for the owners of specific property. In my friends case, the special rights of access to common ammenities and such without requiring HOA membership (and allowing a non-voting advisory role for the HOA on any situation that involves them), it's a benefit to the owner of the house and their family there when my friend inherited the house from his aunt, they didn't lose the benefits of it. You also have some areas where you have estate benefits/responsibilities...which are often kept in place since they do tend to, largely, benefit the people living there, but it would be assigned to the original residence on property as the controller. A local development uses that since it applies a utilities discount for the area with multiple structures, and while it's subdivided, it's still "one estate" for those purposes
@@AzraelThanatos There can certainly be deed restrictions that restrict what you can do with your property, but I'm going to have to see actual, verified examples of deed restrictions that grant someone else full control of the use of your property.
I seriously wonder if controlling entitled people are the ones setting up HOAs all the time, or if it's just a case of the old "Power corrupts..." saying and most people can't seem to handle getting any authority without it going to their head. It could also just be the same problem as other positions of power, the type of people to abuse power are also the ones most likely to spend a lot of effort seeking it out.
15:45 The hospital wouldn’t be allowed to tell any employee who called since they’re not family.
The last story where you were a teacher and the school would not pay you your money when you got fired I used to work for Hut of the pizza and I saw the manager do something really bad and I called the cops the manager fired me and refused to pay me for over a month and a half so I called the corporate offices and I told them and they said wow why didn't you tell us that I said that's not my job so they paid me all the money it was about a couple thousand dollars I wasn't really supposed to get that much so they fired the manager then they called me back and asked me if I wanted to be the assistant manager and I told them NO lol 😅
First story I'd love to see that one go to court at least in the US, though I'm not sure that story occurred in the US. The term estate is more common in England and such. As long as OP wasn't staring in windows and only observing from places where he is allowed to be Karen doesn't have a legal leg to stand on. The courts pretty much upheld universally there is no expectation of privacy in public and on her porch it might as well be public
Teaching story how do you teach someone if they aren't there and it disrupts the class when someone comes in late. This tell me OPs school was more worried about money coming in and maybe reputation than actually doing what they are being paid for educating the student
I find it hard to believe the first story. I'm not an expert in property law and there is always the possibility that this is in a country where property law might work like this. But I have never heard of land being sold off in parcels still somehow belonging legally to the main plot of the original property.
This seems like some medieval feudalism bs.
Yeah. That story is completely bogus. It sounds like some garbage that an AI might come up with.
Story 1 is another reason not to have an HOA
It's always nice to see Karen's being put in their place, especially those trying to be a thorn in everyone's side
That was mean but it was a great revenge on that bimbo
story # 1( i think) - i would play hardball and disband hoa without thinking twice as soon as i found out about owning the land hoa was located on.
Yep, you never know when a Karen may go off the deep end in the future and tie you up in legal claims that will cost a ton to fight, even if you win in the end.
I doubt that it was an actual ownership.
I know someone in a similar situation where they live in an old farm house with a few outbuildings, it used to be my friends aunt that owned it until she died, and she had sold off the majority of the farm property to a developer though the way it was done added special rights to the owner of the farm home in connection to the rest of it.
Basically, they aren't subject to the rules of the HOA the developer wanted and have full access to any "common amenities" that would be put in there (In that case, a pool, stocked lake, walking paths, gym, and a few other things) without required payment for it. It was a perpetual clause thing for it that couldn't be removed with a setup that dropping the special benefits meant that they either owed her quite a bit of cash immediately or she could pay back the purchase price and reclaim ownership of the property in whole.
When their HOA shifted from developer to owner hands, they tried pulling some crap...and there's been a few random other things but it tends to be when there are heavy shifts in the board there to people who don't realize the legal restrictions that are part of it.
The OP having additional benefits in a similar situation is rather easy to see there
Last: I wonder about the quality of education in that country, if school admins are worried about upsetting parents by telling them the truth about their lazy/ bad tempered students and instead prefer to fire the teacher trying to teach and imposing boundaries.
I hope that some day police officers will learn that they are not required to respond to illegal calls and should be informing Karen's that untruthful calls ARE illegal!!
A bit down the road from where my parents lived, was a large estate. One house and a huge, I mean HUGE, lot. After the owners passed on, the land was sold to a developer who parceled it into small pieces, built modest homes on them and then sold them. The person who purchased the original main home, was NOT the 'landlord' of any of those other properties. Hubby and I looked into purchasing until we saw the asking price, roll my eyes! But no, we would not have been 'tenants' of the person who owned the original home.
First story, Karens attorney should get disbarred for taking such a case.
OP of the last story should have also sued Karen too, she was the one that got them fired so she had a part in the firing and it didn't matter if she was an important person as she was still meant to follow the laws, if her kid is playing up in school it's her and the kid fault, not the teacher fault that a kid wants to be unruly as those kids grow up thinking they are above the law only to have their world come crashing down around them when they end up in jail
Paging all U.S. Truckers. Alcohol and illicit substances in the cab of your truck are illegal here in all 50 states. Most Companies have a zero tolerance for that kind of activity. You will get terminated, period.
There's enough impaired idiots on the roads here in this country w/o a vehicle weighing 40 tons or being driven by an impaired driver.
I would never be in a home owners Association. If you buy a home you should be able to do whatever you want. Might as well rent for ALL the trouble you get from an HOA.
The thing about HOAs is that they can be beneficial to preserve your property value. If you want to sell your house but your neighbor insists on having an old rust-bucket on cinder blocks sitting on his front lawn which he hasn't mowed in months, then I doubt you'd be able to sell your house without taking a huge loss. A reasonable HOA would ensure that this didn't happen. The problem, of course, is that an HOA is to sociopaths what potato salad sitting on a picnic table is to flies: they can't help but be attracted to it and end up ruining it.
1S. She did not withdraw because she didn't have a leg to stand on. She doesn't have money from the HOA to support her harassment of OP. Or in case she lost. She can stuck the money to HOA because she did for the HOA.
I would have to say the 1st story was from someone's vivid imagination regarding retribution on an HOA and was void of any sort of reality LOL.
Seriously, he is a "Landlord" when everyone owns their own property and homes built on that property???
This is not the Middle Ages with Dukes and Barons retaining ownership of "lands" whereas the peasants are "granted rights" to live and work those lands. Those days are long gone since that sort of structure would mean the KING (or Queen), would still technically and legally own ALL of the land in their realm and I don't know of any country that still operates like that LOL.
If you bought a home, lived in it for years, and then agreed to subject yourself to an HOA that didnt previously exist, I have no sympathy for you. The problems with HOAs are well known. I am sure there are some decent or even good HOAs. But I've never heard of one. Just say no.
yeam unless the story is from some country with antient domain from a serf lord, it makes no sense, plus why would someone who had the authority to abolish an HOA make a compromise, talk about a glutton for punishment.
Sure way to tell someone is lying. They keep changing the story to match new evidence.
He wouldn't be able to get a job driving a ice cream truck
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Don't join a HOA nor give in to any of their demands and NEVER show mercy to a Karen.
Driving a cab is a job not a career.
Home owners' associations have absolutely no legal standing and you can do what you wish provided there is no covenant about it in your property deeds.
this the kitchen sink of reposts?
You should have tried to have them removed from being abled to be classified as a teaching school of any kind
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once again it shows what greedy sharks abound in the legal profession
Case might be frivolous and stupid but the lawyers despite knowing that it is a no win case still procceds with the case just so they can milk.the suer for all they can
Action should be taken against unscrupulous lawyers who do that and they should also be heavily fined
Especially when it comes to HOAs with their idiotic fining and sueing
The first story is nonsense. There’s no landlord when people own their homes.
Story 1: Doubt the story is real, but if it were, OP should have disbanded the HOA.
Hot water story: CPS should have been involved. It's obvious that the mother and grandmother did it to the kid to get money!
It's not real. It completely ignores the law. When you sell land, you do not magically become their landlord.
If you live in an HOA that is your fault
um lady you were invading op's privacy so op should sue you back
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The first story don't make sense if the land was sold then the owner of the house that was the original house on a estate still have nothing to do with the rest of the property so claims of being the landlord of property that doesn't belong to you sounds like you are the Karan of the story
The first story is completely fake, my nephew is a attorney and specializes in international law and has worked for multiple different countries Embassies and he has verified no country he can find has the type of law that backs up the first story. I'm really tired of fake stories. They are entertaining but just be honest and say they are just entertaining stories.
The law with it is probably from agreements between the original estate/property owner and the developers written into the sale contract. I know someone who had a similar thing there.
The story is so bogus that it isn't even entertaining.
@@AzraelThanatos Nonsense. If you sell land, you no longer have ownership of it.
@@ej2953 It's more of a specific deed restriction tied into the contract for selling the land there.
Basically, it's part of the sale agreement that specific things happen with it, for example, you can have part of the contract be that the property not be used for certain purposes or limit it to a specific purpose.
One example is the way a local family "donated" land to the local schools, it's donated specifically as a "land laboratory" and if they violate any of the school system or city violate the specific agreements, it reverts back to the families ownership and control.
Things like a developer buying the property to develop it might agree to restrictions and/or requirements for a better land price with other requirements for both sides of the contract, those often then get added as deed restrictions for the properties in how things are handled, or even rights specifically listed for the owners of specific property.
In my friends case, the special rights of access to common ammenities and such without requiring HOA membership (and allowing a non-voting advisory role for the HOA on any situation that involves them), it's a benefit to the owner of the house and their family there when my friend inherited the house from his aunt, they didn't lose the benefits of it.
You also have some areas where you have estate benefits/responsibilities...which are often kept in place since they do tend to, largely, benefit the people living there, but it would be assigned to the original residence on property as the controller.
A local development uses that since it applies a utilities discount for the area with multiple structures, and while it's subdivided, it's still "one estate" for those purposes
@@AzraelThanatos There can certainly be deed restrictions that restrict what you can do with your property, but I'm going to have to see actual, verified examples of deed restrictions that grant someone else full control of the use of your property.