So glad it was helpful. Thanks again for watching and commenting. Hopefully you are already a subscriber, but I would really appreciate it. If you would share my channel with everyone, you know as well.
I love all your videos because I get the most information from your knowledge and I really appreciate you making these videos. I tried the pool strips which gave me a wrong reading on the chlorine and the pH and I think the drops are best for pH and chlorine. What is your opinion?
Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching and commenting. Hope you’ll subscribe to and share my channel. Personally I prefer the test strips. But specifically the AquaCheck Pro strips and AquaCheck 7 test strips. Some test strips aren't as accurate I've been told.
Thanks- here in Texas I use mostly liquid chlorine- and yes check often, then the pucks in a chlorinator mainly in off season Nov/Dec - March- have a good one !
He has a video on chemical start ups when draining your pool. I filled his instructions to the letter on my last two drains and my chemistry has been perfect ever since.
Note if your CYA gets too high you can switch to liquid and the cya will diminish; mine went from 106 to 60 in about 6 weeks of using liquid. I use both; 2 or 3 tablets and 1/3 gallon of liquid a day to keep the CYA from getting too high.
Great video once again, thank you! I have a salt water pool but was wondering if you know these small peristaltic acid feeder pumps? They work quite well either with muriatic acid or sulphuric acid. But couldn't they be used (with the right hose that can withstand) with liquid chlorine? You could have your automated system like that instead of a swg? What are your thoughts? How much liquid chlorine would you need per week for say a 20.000 gallon pool....my swg can create 25 gram of chlorine per hour at its max. Maybe this is not going to work....😊
Redirect your return ports downward. Sounds like the surface current created by them is moving it to a specific area. Oh, sometime the skimmer suction can cause it to hang up there as well. Hard to help that one.
I would highly doubt anyone who checks their pool chlorine levels on a daily basis, just doing it on a weekly basis is a big ask. Thanks for the info you provided, I'm just going to keep shocking it as needed. The majority of pools have to be "chemically off" unless you have a good pool service all year round.
Hi Kenny, thanks for this another helpful info. Do you have a video reviews of automatic pool chemical monitor, like WaterGurus, Sutro, Hannah pH Controller, etc.? What do you think about these? If you don't have video reviews about these, could you please do one? Thanks.
Sadly I don't. So I can't really comment accurately on them. Since I don't have any clients that have them I don't have the ability to do a video on them.
Can I ask , we just have a 15ft soft sided pool.Summer waves .This is our first time with algea.Our ph and alkalinity is very high.We have only ever used chlorine tablets and never had an issue .This year is bad .Should i fix the ph and alkalinity first? Or do the treatment for algea first ? And do you have a chlorine puck suggestion? Thanks again!!
@@whickman65 more than likely your issue is phosphates watch this video on algae and algicide and why you don’t need them and it should help Algae and Algaecides (and why you don’t need them) 😉 th-cam.com/video/MzGoK4Cd7tc/w-d-xo.html
I did a video on pool shock and why I don't use it "much". Here's a link: th-cam.com/video/tpyyMNqRqi0/w-d-xo.html I can't remember if I talk about the different kinds of shock in it. But I might have.
You could do either. Just make sure that the bucket that you put it in does not have any additional chemicals in it. But if you need to dilute it in water, you can do that To be honest, unless you have a painted pool or a vinyl or fiberglass pool if you sprinkle around the surf pool, the filter pump running the granules should not be an issue. But to be safe, you can do either way you asked about.
No, the only way to reduce CYA is through dilution. When pool water evaporates the CYA stays behind. But because of the evaporation you were adding fresh water to your pool regularly, and that fresh water does not contain CYA so theoretically, it will dilute the water a little bit, but if you’re using stabilized chlorine tablets, you’re probably not evaporating enough water daily to really make a dent in the level of the CYA.
@@PoolSchoolerIf water (H2O) evaporates and fresh water (H2O) is added isn't the net result 0? In theory you only loose CYA when pumping water to waste or backwash or when there is a leak. My experience is I esp loose CYA during the summer months with the strongest UV radiation. But during that time I also backwash the most.
@@Peter-Alexander in theory you are correct anytime you have freshwater to your pool. It is diluting it so it should be lessening the CYA, however because most pool owners who use tablets use them on a weekly basis there is more CYA getting into the pool, then freshwater even during the summer months in Arizona so it does slowly accumulate, but that usually takes about 5 to 7 years for the CYA to get high enough to have to replace the water.
@@cindypacheco4953 I personally have never heard that. I do know that pools that have painted surfaces. Don’t hold up well overtime. But that’s just because the paint is a less than permanent fix for a pool. I would not let the tablets sit on the actual painted surface, that could be a problem, but if it’s floating chlorinator, I’m not sure that it would cause any damage. But that is just my opinion and it’s not really coming from a place of vast experience with painted pools. So you might want to research that further before you use chlorine tablets.
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You didn't mention non-stabilized tablets. That's what I'm using now. They never really fully dissolve and turn into a mush that piles up in my skimmer and filters. Otherwise, they work fine without adding any more CYA to the pool. I add a little liquid chlorine when needed.
My pool is about 22,000 gallons (16x32 with 8’ deep end), and on average mines uses about 1qt - 1.5qt per day. Sometimes more sometimes less depending on pool use. But I usually add liquid chlorine every couple days to maintain 2-4ppm (40cya)
In my area CAL hypo tablets are harder to get and more expensive. So I don’t use them nor the most Pool Service professionals that I know of in my area. Also in Arizona, we have extremely hard water which is mainly calcium so we don’t want to add any more additional calcium to our pools.
From a google search. "Household bleach (the same as you use for your laundry) and pool chlorine are the same thing. They are identical in every way, with the exception of strength."
Yes, they both contain sodium hypochorite. The only difference is the concentration. Household bleach is usually about 5% whereas liquid chlorine 10 to 12%. When sodium hypochlorite is dissolved in water hypochlorous acid (HClO) is formed and this is the strong active desinfectant. If you have CYA in there as well, it bonds with it and forms a buffer and thus protecting your chlorine from UV.
Why no mention of unstabilized tablets? why is this such an issue where they pack so much stabilizer into the tabs to the point that now I have to replace my water every year because of high concentration. They make these tablets hard to find? It just boggles my mind. I would rather add a stabilizer as needed.
I would much prefer using unstabilized chlorine tablets, but they are harder to come by and they are far more expensive than stabilize chlorine tablets. It’s definitely a trade-off that everyone should consider the pay more for unstabilized tablets or you pay more later in Arizona that would be five or so years later and changing your water.
I disagree with the CYA evaporating in hot climates, it doesn't evaporate, only pure water evaporates thats why things like calcium and cya continually increase. Only water that is splashed out or carried out takes the CYA and calcium with it.
You are correct, but what I meant to say, and perhaps I was not as clear as I should’ve been, is that because water evaporates, and you’re adding fresh water to the pool that fresh water that is being daily added, does not have CYA in it, so it will have a very minimal affect in diluting the water. But typically not enough to make a large impact if one is using stabilized chlorine tablets on a daily basis.
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Like always such a great Info provided. Thanks.
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I love all your videos because I get the most information from your knowledge and I really appreciate you making these videos. I tried the pool strips which gave me a wrong reading on the chlorine and the pH and I think the drops are best for pH and chlorine. What is your opinion?
Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching and commenting. Hope you’ll subscribe to and share my channel. Personally I prefer the test strips. But specifically the AquaCheck Pro strips and AquaCheck 7 test strips. Some test strips aren't as accurate I've been told.
Thanks- here in Texas I use mostly liquid chlorine- and yes check often, then the pucks in a chlorinator mainly in off season Nov/Dec - March- have a good one !
Thanks for commenting. Hope you’ll subscribe to and share my channel.
Jakeminniti I also live in Texas ! I need help ! My cya was extremely high I had to drain the pool ! What chemicals do u use !
He has a video on chemical start ups when draining your pool. I filled his instructions to the letter on my last two drains and my chemistry has been perfect ever since.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
thank you for watching and commenting. Hope you’ll subscribe to and share my channel.
Note if your CYA gets too high you can switch to liquid and the cya will diminish; mine went from 106 to 60 in about 6 weeks of using liquid. I use both; 2 or 3 tablets and 1/3 gallon of liquid a day to keep the CYA from getting too high.
Great video once again, thank you! I have a salt water pool but was wondering if you know these small peristaltic acid feeder pumps? They work quite well either with muriatic acid or sulphuric acid. But couldn't they be used (with the right hose that can withstand) with liquid chlorine? You could have your automated system like that instead of a swg? What are your thoughts? How much liquid chlorine would you need per week for say a 20.000 gallon pool....my swg can create 25 gram of chlorine per hour at its max. Maybe this is not going to work....😊
@@Peter-Alexander unfortunately I have no experience with what you are describing so I don’t think I would be any help with any comments.
Great video, any ideas on how to keep the pool chlorine floater from going to the same spot in the pool?
Redirect your return ports downward. Sounds like the surface current created by them is moving it to a specific area. Oh, sometime the skimmer suction can cause it to hang up there as well. Hard to help that one.
I would highly doubt anyone who checks their pool chlorine levels on a daily basis, just doing it on a weekly basis is a big ask. Thanks for the info you provided, I'm just going to keep shocking it as needed. The majority of pools have to be "chemically off" unless you have a good pool service all year round.
Hi Kenny, thanks for this another helpful info. Do you have a video reviews of automatic pool chemical monitor, like WaterGurus, Sutro, Hannah pH Controller, etc.? What do you think about these? If you don't have video reviews about these, could you please do one? Thanks.
Sadly I don't. So I can't really comment accurately on them. Since I don't have any clients that have them I don't have the ability to do a video on them.
Can I ask , we just have a 15ft soft sided pool.Summer waves .This is our first time with algea.Our ph and alkalinity is very high.We have only ever used chlorine tablets and never had an issue .This year is bad .Should i fix the ph and alkalinity first? Or do the treatment for algea first ? And do you have a chlorine puck suggestion? Thanks again!!
@@whickman65 more than likely your issue is phosphates watch this video on algae and algicide and why you don’t need them and it should help Algae and Algaecides (and why you don’t need them) 😉
th-cam.com/video/MzGoK4Cd7tc/w-d-xo.html
excellent video ! I am putting a pause on the tablets then
If you can keep up on the liquid chlorine then that's the way to go.
How long do you have to keep adding liquid chlorine every day for?
Can I mix granules? In a bucket and dissolve it an add it to the pool thanks
Of course you can.
Have you done a video on Trichlor vs Cal Hypo chlorine options or share your thoughts?
I did a video on pool shock and why I don't use it "much". Here's a link: th-cam.com/video/tpyyMNqRqi0/w-d-xo.html I can't remember if I talk about the different kinds of shock in it. But I might have.
If I use the Granular can I brush it around or can I add it to a bucket of water first then put it in????
You could do either. Just make sure that the bucket that you put it in does not have any additional chemicals in it. But if you need to dilute it in water, you can do that
To be honest, unless you have a painted pool or a vinyl or fiberglass pool if you sprinkle around the surf pool, the filter pump running the granules should not be an issue. But to be safe, you can do either way you asked about.
Are there test strips that measure chlorine up to 15 or 20? We were told to hyperchlorinate our pool (white water mold).
Not that I know of. You may want to see if digital testers can. I'm not sure.
Are you saying that the stabilizer evaporates with the water? If so that’s good news to me. I’m in So Cal and I have to add water weekly if not more.
It's not the evaporation that lowers stabilizer levels. It's the fact that you're adding fresh water that's lowering the levels
No, the only way to reduce CYA is through dilution. When pool water evaporates the CYA stays behind. But because of the evaporation you were adding fresh water to your pool regularly, and that fresh water does not contain CYA so theoretically, it will dilute the water a little bit, but if you’re using stabilized chlorine tablets, you’re probably not evaporating enough water daily to really make a dent in the level of the CYA.
@@PoolSchoolerIf water (H2O) evaporates and fresh water (H2O) is added isn't the net result 0? In theory you only loose CYA when pumping water to waste or backwash or when there is a leak. My experience is I esp loose CYA during the summer months with the strongest UV radiation. But during that time I also backwash the most.
@@Peter-Alexander in theory you are correct anytime you have freshwater to your pool. It is diluting it so it should be lessening the CYA, however because most pool owners who use tablets use them on a weekly basis there is more CYA getting into the pool, then freshwater even during the summer months in Arizona so it does slowly accumulate, but that usually takes about 5 to 7 years for the CYA to get high enough to have to replace the water.
Where in Arizona are you?
I was told that the tablets would tear the paint off the walls of my pool. Is that true? We just painted it about a month ago.
@@cindypacheco4953 I personally have never heard that. I do know that pools that have painted surfaces. Don’t hold up well overtime. But that’s just because the paint is a less than permanent fix for a pool. I would not let the tablets sit on the actual painted surface, that could be a problem, but if it’s floating chlorinator, I’m not sure that it would cause any damage. But that is just my opinion and it’s not really coming from a place of vast experience with painted pools. So you might want to research that further before you use chlorine tablets.
@@PoolSchooler thank you for your feedback. I appreciate it.
I thought you might cover SWC generators too. I’m interested in your feeling on using these here in the desert.
I've done three videos on them. Here's links to them. #1. th-cam.com/video/o_NRYkFHuBg/w-d-xo.html
#2. th-cam.com/video/DZuMcj7UydM/w-d-xo.html
#3. th-cam.com/video/kAyCHYkyxPI/w-d-xo.html
#4. th-cam.com/video/UxStDVbWejw/w-d-xo.html
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Liquid chlorine works best for me
That would be the ideal choice if you don’t mind testing and adding it on a daily basis.
You didn't mention non-stabilized tablets. That's what I'm using now. They never really fully dissolve and turn into a mush that piles up in my skimmer and filters. Otherwise, they work fine without adding any more CYA to the pool. I add a little liquid chlorine when needed.
Mainly because non stabilized tablets are much more difficult to get (in different states etc) and they're much more expensive.
From what I read, CYA stays in your pool during evaporation. Only way to reduce CYA levels is to do a partial pool drain.
Pretty much.
How often do you guys do a pool drain because of high levels of cya
Thank you.
I use liquid chlorine so I'm doing something right.
What do you use chlorine 60% or 90%
Honestly I use what my supplier carries. Typically it's 99% Trichlor/90% Chlorine
How much liquid chlorine per day?
Depends on the size of the pool. Enough to keep it around 1-3 ppm. There will be instructions on the bottle.
@@n0dedotorg Exactly
My pool is about 22,000 gallons (16x32 with 8’ deep end), and on average mines uses about 1qt - 1.5qt per day. Sometimes more sometimes less depending on pool use. But I usually add liquid chlorine every couple days to maintain 2-4ppm (40cya)
Why no mention of cal hypo?
Slow dissolving cal hypo tablets are the best of both worlds. Convenient, and they don't raise cyanaric acid levels.
In my area CAL hypo tablets are harder to get and more expensive. So I don’t use them nor the most Pool Service professionals that I know of in my area. Also in Arizona, we have extremely hard water which is mainly calcium so we don’t want to add any more additional calcium to our pools.
Is liquid chlorine the same as bleach?
From a google search.
"Household bleach (the same as you use for your laundry) and pool chlorine are the same thing. They are identical in every way, with the exception of strength."
Yes, they both contain sodium hypochorite. The only difference is the concentration. Household bleach is usually about 5% whereas liquid chlorine 10 to 12%. When sodium hypochlorite is dissolved in water hypochlorous acid (HClO) is formed and this is the strong active desinfectant. If you have CYA in there as well, it bonds with it and forms a buffer and thus protecting your chlorine from UV.
Why would a saltwater pool not make enough free chlorine? Isn't that what the cells are for?
It is but too many salt systems just can’t keep up with high demand (heat people etc). And it’s one of of the reasons I’m not a fan.
Why no mention of unstabilized tablets? why is this such an issue where they pack so much stabilizer into the tabs to the point that now I have to replace my water every year because of high concentration. They make these tablets hard to find? It just boggles my mind. I would rather add a stabilizer as needed.
I would much prefer using unstabilized chlorine tablets, but they are harder to come by and they are far more expensive than stabilize chlorine tablets. It’s definitely a trade-off that everyone should consider the pay more for unstabilized tablets or you pay more later in Arizona that would be five or so years later and changing your water.
I disagree with the CYA evaporating in hot climates, it doesn't evaporate, only pure water evaporates thats why things like calcium and cya continually increase. Only water that is splashed out or carried out takes the CYA and calcium with it.
You are correct, but what I meant to say, and perhaps I was not as clear as I should’ve been, is that because water evaporates, and you’re adding fresh water to the pool that fresh water that is being daily added, does not have CYA in it, so it will have a very minimal affect in diluting the water. But typically not enough to make a large impact if one is using stabilized chlorine tablets on a daily basis.