You have given us a great first impression of the Kove 800 Kyle. Kudos to Kove for not making yet another 450# wet mid sized bike! Honestly, I would love for more manufacturers to provide you with bikes for testing. No slight to anyone else in the space... But I nearly fell asleep watching a video released today about a bike. I can hear the excitement in your voice here, and I can see you stressing the bike. I would really appreciate seeing what you could do with a bike in a full series. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding Kyle also is a more talented rider than a lot of these guys. Add to that a genuine love of what he does it makes for compelling videos.
Hello from China. Rally's got 270mm of travel vs 240mm on this pro model, flat seat, one front brake disc vs 2 on 800x pro, front fender is off-road, no luggage rack in the back, and they probably gave it a full titanium exhaust system to shave even more weight, because the wet weight of Rally is 176 kg.
@@taratantara what I see is , that you don't know lately news! And all about what is happening with this brands family!! Money is simply comming from west!
I got rid of my t7 cos of the top heavyness and the weight. This seems to be lighter and more powerful, but how does it carry the weight would you say compared to a t7? The biggest issue for me (UK) is there are hardly any dealers, but I'd go for one if they get a scottish dealership.
@@manybikes Thank you. Very interesting, hopefully they will get in with a distributor (maybe cfmoto) here in the UK, then I'll be definitely checking it out. Also, thanks for the sheer enthusiasm and honesty that you bring to your videos.
A bit strange that so many complain about KTM engines' reliability, yet most trust this (admittedly "almost") same engine in another frame build. For 10k this is a formidable challenger to the T7! I do wonder if the 2k extra for the rally version is worth the money? That would suggest that the suspension on the standard version is not good at all? Your opinion, Kyle? Me, personally, I still feel that the 690/701LR is the perfect middle ADV; weight/power/suspension.... THANKS Kyle for your review! ❤
@@PeterR0035 yeah... I used to hate the 690 / 701 ... it is AMAZING on paper but on the highway feels like a 450 and in the woods on single track it feels like an Africa Twin ;). This bike is light enough and powerful enough I think it will be a contender. Do I trust it.... not really... but we will see. CFMoto is making the engine... we will see!!!
I've ridden the upgraded rally version in moab Utah, and the differences I noticed were quite a bit more extensive then just suspension, it had single front rotor, skinnier wheels that could run mousses if wanted to, full titanium race exhaust, no abs at all on the bike and a scotts steering stabilizer. This was the pre production model, and im told they'll have to install Abs on the rally bike in order for it to be USA 50 state street legal, but in short I was told this pre production rally I rode was mostly how it'll come out to the public. It was basically a more Offroad focused model of aggressive Offroad riding and even lighter in weight. So in short, for an extra couple grand, it comes considerably even lighter, better suspension, and skinnier wheels that can run mousses optionally, more high-performance exhaust, and stabilizer And yes, I agree with Kyle, these bikes were extremely light, very agile, and very peppy
@@manybikes Okay sounds good. I've heard that engine in the KTM tends to put off a lot of heat, and boil gas pretty easily. But I'm curious how much of that is poor air circulation due to tank configuration.
Is the staff on Holliday break? Why is the video not available? This is what happens when London leaves Kyle in charge of scheduling... The customer waits! 😢 - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding they were sleeping Frank. The staff was in bed at 8pm... I edited 9pm to 2am... and scheduled for 6:30am premiere before waking the staff at 7am for school. I really need to work out thus timing issue / work life balance.
great review Kyle, i'm curious what they did to rework the 790 motor, hopefully something to combat the crankshaft issues ktm was having. anything you see as a negative? about 100hp, sub 400lb, decent street manners, good price, seems like the "perfect" bike in the middleweight section
@@manybikes excited to see what this does to the segment, I would love to see another review with some proper knobbies on it, just to see what it can do
@@manybikes Thats my thought. Though with modern bikes, electronics are a real fear as well. Perhaps you can reach out and chat with someone at Kove with service questions? Spring is coming and many of us will be making purchase decisions! - Frank
@ for sure!!! This kids worked for the US Importer. They assured me the support was strong. And heck... Utah is on a 12 hour ride for me ;) If the bike is running...
@@OneOldManRiding The electronics seem fairly simple, not nearly as much going on as the KTMs under the plastics. They're going for light weight, simplicity is almost certainly their goal. Cable throttle, no cruse electronics, quick shift or tilt sensors = Less to break. I can't say for sure if the engine has a knock sensor, as I haven't seen deep in between the throttle bodies.
@@manybikes YAMAHA proves yet again they have created a whole pack of cards ♦️ that lasts for years since introduced called "CP2" with it's 270° and other well-thought-out factors in it's design that others still seem to have a hard time surpassing , and it keeps surprising -even now where there's already a *swarm* of competitors ivals in this segment .. . seems like there will *still* be sth that no one can take away from it .. . interesting
@@generaldistrustit more than just a stripped down versionn that is needed.The weight is up to high on the t7 and fuel range is not there either . The kove carries its fuel low and has 5 gallons of it for 300 miles of range. If Yamaha would make those changes then yes it would be a huge WIN as it stands now the bike is too too heavy and lacks range for a large segment of adv riders.
Gpx sucks man. Love your vids. I would not trust a kove on a wilderness adventure. I can’t order parts on Rocky Mountain atv. So for those reasons I’m out.
Do you think this bike will give Honda African Twins a run for the money, in term of handling on muddy dirt road? How about performance? Handling is more important to me.
Bike sounds good thanks for the review Kyle
You bet! Always a great day on a motorcycle! Especially a fun new one!
You have given us a great first impression of the Kove 800 Kyle.
Kudos to Kove for not making yet another 450# wet mid sized bike!
Honestly, I would love for more manufacturers to provide you with bikes for testing.
No slight to anyone else in the space... But I nearly fell asleep watching a video released today about a bike.
I can hear the excitement in your voice here, and I can see you stressing the bike.
I would really appreciate seeing what you could do with a bike in a full series. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding awe, thanks Frank!
@@OneOldManRiding Kyle also is a more talented rider than a lot of these guys. Add to that a genuine love of what he does it makes for compelling videos.
@@othgmark1 Indeed, you can hear the glee in his voice when he rides. - Frank
Awe, thanks Mark!
Frank, It is a freaking FUN bike!!! In a totally different way than the Pan America which is Also Fun!
Nice review! Those roads and trails look familiar
Yes they do @woodzman yes they do!
Hello from China. Rally's got 270mm of travel vs 240mm on this pro model, flat seat, one front brake disc vs 2 on 800x pro, front fender is off-road, no luggage rack in the back, and they probably gave it a full titanium exhaust system to shave even more weight, because the wet weight of Rally is 176 kg.
Love the Chinese connection! Thanks for the specs and differences, this is great. WOW! That Rally wet weight is crazy!
Looks sweet, are they any more available than a CFM 450’s?
The first two batches for 2025 are sold out. Looking at Mid June before we see stock here in the USA
Another bike that is coming and would be nice testing, it's the new CFMOTO MTX 800 ! Don't you think !?
As always, great video Kyle!
Oh yeah! Just need to get my hands on one!!!
@@manybikes I am sure that it Will be very soon ! Kyle!
@ hope so!!!
with KTM's expected bankruptcy, I wouldn't advise buying a CF Moto this coming year…
@@taratantara what I see is , that you don't know lately news! And all about what is happening with this brands family!!
Money is simply comming from west!
I got rid of my t7 cos of the top heavyness and the weight. This seems to be lighter and more powerful, but how does it carry the weight would you say compared to a t7?
The biggest issue for me (UK) is there are hardly any dealers, but I'd go for one if they get a scottish dealership.
@@Hutchie2112 Way WAy WAY different feeling than the T7 or the 790!!! So different I wonder where they cut the corners!
@@manybikes Thank you. Very interesting, hopefully they will get in with a distributor (maybe cfmoto) here in the UK, then I'll be definitely checking it out. Also, thanks for the sheer enthusiasm and honesty that you bring to your videos.
Any thoughts on a "choppy/snatchy" throttle? Heard a few riders complain about that
I found it to be quite smooth through the range. But my range is more "on & off" than many ;)
Indeed it is choppy as f... Definitely to have it tuned by a proper tuner.
@ So strange I didn't feel that!
A bit strange that so many complain about KTM engines' reliability, yet most trust this (admittedly "almost") same engine in another frame build. For 10k this is a formidable challenger to the T7! I do wonder if the 2k extra for the rally version is worth the money? That would suggest that the suspension on the standard version is not good at all? Your opinion, Kyle? Me, personally, I still feel that the 690/701LR is the perfect middle ADV; weight/power/suspension.... THANKS Kyle for your review! ❤
@@PeterR0035 yeah... I used to hate the 690 / 701 ... it is AMAZING on paper but on the highway feels like a 450 and in the woods on single track it feels like an Africa Twin ;). This bike is light enough and powerful enough I think it will be a contender. Do I trust it.... not really... but we will see. CFMoto is making the engine... we will see!!!
Suspensions are great, they're kayaba. On the rally version they are 310 mm, on the Pro version 240 mm.
I am on my second KTM and all I can say is that have been way more reliable than any other bike I’ve owned.
I've ridden the upgraded rally version in moab Utah, and the differences I noticed were quite a bit more extensive then just suspension, it had single front rotor, skinnier wheels that could run mousses if wanted to, full titanium race exhaust, no abs at all on the bike and a scotts steering stabilizer.
This was the pre production model, and im told they'll have to install Abs on the rally bike in order for it to be USA 50 state street legal, but in short I was told this pre production rally I rode was mostly how it'll come out to the public.
It was basically a more Offroad focused model of aggressive Offroad riding and even lighter in weight.
So in short, for an extra couple grand, it comes considerably even lighter, better suspension, and skinnier wheels that can run mousses optionally, more high-performance exhaust, and stabilizer
And yes, I agree with Kyle, these bikes were extremely light, very agile, and very peppy
@ Fantastic info. Neat machines for sure!
While you were on your test ride, did you notice any abnormal amount of engine heat coming from the bike?
@@americandirtrider7662 No, I didn't. But I ride an 1190 R as my daily commute... one of the hottest around. But, no... I didn't.
@@manybikes Okay sounds good. I've heard that engine in the KTM tends to put off a lot of heat, and boil gas pretty easily. But I'm curious how much of that is poor air circulation due to tank configuration.
Oh yeah! I have had the tank act like geyser! No fun!
Is the staff on Holliday break? Why is the video not available?
This is what happens when London leaves Kyle in charge of scheduling... The customer waits! 😢 - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding they were sleeping Frank. The staff was in bed at 8pm... I edited 9pm to 2am... and scheduled for 6:30am premiere before waking the staff at 7am for school. I really need to work out thus timing issue / work life balance.
when CA USA Release?
@@Purehess they are arriving this month from what I was told. Next batch in March has already been pre-sold.
@manybikes are you talking that dealership in San Diego?
@ No, the importer in Utah linked in the description.
great review Kyle, i'm curious what they did to rework the 790 motor, hopefully something to combat the crankshaft issues ktm was having. anything you see as a negative? about 100hp, sub 400lb, decent street manners, good price, seems like the "perfect" bike in the middleweight section
@@atlasoffroader796 the only negative I see is a non replaceable subframe... other than that, it's really solid!
@@manybikes excited to see what this does to the segment, I would love to see another review with some proper knobbies on it, just to see what it can do
Redesigned head, redesigned bottom end, better clutch and bigger volume oil pump.....
@@atlasoffroader796 yes... the street tires were smooth and moved me forward in the sand but some real tires would have been nice!!!
@@MickH60 the things that make us go Hummmmmm
I think hink they will have to work hard to convince buyers, where as the DSE 900X engine is made by Loncin, almost the same as the F900 unit.
Yeah, the Chinese sell at the moment is getting tougher and tougher,
I’d trust a T7 during an apocalypse.
Totally! Gas, Oil Spark and Air... Can go Anywhere!
Very small dealer network & support would be my issue where I live
Yes, I can see that. That would be a concern of mine too. But any KTM or CFMoto Dealer can work on the motor ;)
@@manybikes Thats my thought. Though with modern bikes, electronics are a real fear as well. Perhaps you can reach out and chat with someone at Kove with service questions? Spring is coming and many of us will be making purchase decisions! - Frank
@ for sure!!! This kids worked for the US Importer. They assured me the support was strong. And heck... Utah is on a 12 hour ride for me ;) If the bike is running...
@@OneOldManRiding The electronics seem fairly simple, not nearly as much going on as the KTMs under the plastics. They're going for light weight, simplicity is almost certainly their goal. Cable throttle, no cruse electronics, quick shift or tilt sensors = Less to break. I can't say for sure if the engine has a knock sensor, as I haven't seen deep in between the throttle bodies.
Allo Kyle, will you be doin a Kove 8Rally too?
Many thanks for the test.
🏍️🏍️🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
I'd sure love to!!! Need to get a bike though...
Interesting machine, seems like a lot for the money.
Lots of action for the $$$, that's for sure. I'm interested...
95HP out of 800 “is impressive”. Compared to a T7 any HP figure is impressive, KTM gave 95HP to the 790 from 5 years ago.
Yes, this is all true. They say it is and it felt noticeably lighter than the 790 at the same HP. That I thought was impressive.
Don’t need high Hp for off road
I think you meant 'more "tractor factor" ' , just a wild guess ..
@@generaldistrust the T7 has way more tractor factor than this bike. This one has to be kicked down into 1st to roll out of an idle.
@@manybikes YAMAHA proves yet again they have created a whole pack of cards ♦️ that lasts for years since introduced called "CP2" with it's 270° and other well-thought-out factors in it's design that others still seem to have a hard time surpassing , and it keeps surprising -even now where there's already a *swarm* of competitors
ivals in this segment .. . seems like there will *still* be sth that no one can take away from it .. . interesting
@@manybikes oh.. and if only YAMAHA made a stripped down ver' of the T7 like *KOVE did* w\ the *Rally* version of the 800X .. . OH MAN 🥵
Oh Man would be right!!! T7 for the WIN for sure!
@@generaldistrustit more than just a stripped down versionn that is needed.The weight is up to high on the t7 and fuel range is not there either . The kove carries its fuel low and has 5 gallons of it for 300 miles of range. If Yamaha would make those changes then yes it would be a huge WIN as it stands now the bike is too too heavy and lacks range for a large segment of adv riders.
Gpx sucks man. Love your vids. I would not trust a kove on a wilderness adventure. I can’t order parts on Rocky Mountain atv. So for those reasons I’m out.
Yeah, parts availability could be an issue.
where's the 'even lighter' *high fender' factory-stripped-of-excess* version? 😳
**edit: oh , it's the Rally ver. ..
Yes the Rally version sounds amazing. $3k more, but amazing.
@manybikes yessssss!! and it's no lesser satisfaction to know that you boss -might do an in-depth riding review of it sometime soon ;)
@@generaldistrust sweeeeeet!!!
It's in the shop
@@GunnysGreatAdventures bummer!!!
Do you think this bike will give Honda African Twins a run for the money, in term of handling on muddy dirt road? How about performance? Handling is more important to me.
I think this bike will slay the Africa Twin eveywhere except highway miles all day long. AT is KING there !
@@manybikes Thanks for your opinion.
Thanks for your support!
If I could go back in time, I'd totally buy the Kove 800x again!
Great to hear. Are you still on it? What's your long term feel?
@manybikes i just have 500 km on it and every day I like it more 😁 so no long term feel yet...
@ well heck… I did about that much during my test ride wink wink. I look forward to hearing what you think once you get some miles on it
Not a fan of big bikes but this......🤔🤔🤔
Is not a big bike,yes😂
It's pretty Rad. And its a "medium bike". ;)
Soon 60 % china tariffs, paid by usa😂
Yeah, we shall see...
@manybikes will BE 10 % - he does Not want 60 on His bibles Made in China.('Trump Plans New Tariffs on China, Canada and Mexico')
Yeah, we shall see!