Yeah that is true actually! The one we had where I work last Fall was a surprise and thought nothing of it after it was over since I didn't see anything coming!
Unfortunately for me though the thought of surprise drills was a big disruptive problem for me in early elementary school to the point I'd worry almost every day of school in the Spring
when i have a fire alarm drill at my school i’m waiting for the alarm too and no matter what we’re doing right when the alarm sounds we leave our tables and get in line to leave the school.
Back in my day (80s and 90s), schools in Ontario were required to conduct 3 drills a year, at my elementary school we sometimes did 2 drills in one day to accommodate the half-day kindergarten classes. They never announced drills when I was in high school (in elementary school, they always announced it plus a follow-up announcement after the drill ended), I remember one time in grade 10 I was heading to my next class and the alarm went off just a split second after I passed it
I have way too many questions because I find this whole process interesting. I agree with surprise fire drills. There were plenty of times when the teacher didn't do any instruction and tried to be coy about it or they straight up told us one was happening during class. You can't plan a fire. I can understand doing planned drills during the first few months of the school year so everyone knows the procedures and are comfortable them, but there should be surprise ones for the rest of the year. It'd be cool if the alarms had some sort of LED indicator to show if it was an alarm triggered by school staff or not. Still, the teachers wouldn't know when it could go off. I mean the procedures should always be the same, but it could provide a sense of relief.
Here in Clark County School District, there can't really be any surprise fire drills anymore because of the whole thing where they have to verify if a fire alarm is legit, if it's a false alarm, or if it's a shooter pulling the alarm to lure people out. We always have to stay in the classrooms until they silence the alarm and make the announcement to evacuate, and in that announcement they also always tell us if it's a drill or not.
@@nics-systems-electric I know. In America, whenever a shooter shows up to a school with their fully automatic military rifles with high capacity magazines and hundreds of rounds, one of the tactics they like to use is to pull the fire alarm, and wait for the hallways to get full and crowded with students and teachers and staff before filling the entire hallway up with bullets. So CCSD implemented this rule as a measure against that. We also have panic buttons in every single classroom, and if the admins don't answer the front office or principle office phone within a certain amount of time after pressing it, it automatically calls the police.
@@Damariobros I can agree with the rules but I think there’s a point that you have to realize if a shooter wants to take massive amounts of life they are going to do it no matter what is stopping them there is always a way and if they are motivated enough they will still kill many
@@Damariobros At this point I think it’s been made clear that the security measures are not helping the situation and that money could be better allocated other ways I feel since people are gonna do what they wanna do anyways
Yay for surprise fire drills. I agree with you it's not like there's an announcement like "the school will catch on fire soon" nobody knows until the alarm goes off. Thats the point of a drill
I think Suprise fire drills are scarier because When the fire alarm goes off I Pee my Pants from getting scared by the sudden loud noise so to avoid that I go outside 5-10 minutes before the alarm goes off but on 3/13/2024 we had a fire drill but I did not know and no one took me outside 5-10 minutes before the alarm went off and the drill was at 11:10AM and lasted Until 11:20AM but after the fire drill I did not go back to class and I went home at around 11:50AM although on Wednesdays elementary schools in my district go from 9:15AM through 1:30PM while on the rest of school days of the week, which are Mondays Tuesdays Thursdays & Fridays from 9:15AM through 3:40PM
I agree with the stance on surprise fire drills the only issue I have is how do you accommodate for someone that has photo sensitive epilepsy or someone that has certain mental disorders I know there is a documented one for noises especially those triggered by fire alarms I just don't know what it's called. If the person has a mental breakdown and starts screaming etc so much for an organized fire drill
I’m triggered by fire alarms and am forcing myself to watch these videos to desensitize me because how else can you do exposure therapy when pulling fire alarms IRL are illegal and it’s rare for fire alarms to go off when you’re graduated from school and only work once a day . I don’t exactly know what caused the trigger my parents think it’s when my mom accidentally burnt chicken a week after my granspa passed on when I was 5 yrs old and I think it was when I was in Kindergarten when we had a fire drill at nap time .
@@autisticgirlawareness7420 you cools always be like one of the fire alarm enthusiasts and get the devices yourself that way you can pull it whenever you feel like it well aside from pissing off the other occupants of yoir house of course lol
In my school district in the USA we don't know when we have drills and I've experienced a real fire before thanks to a top floor light exploding and it was in December so mad chilly,
This is amazing, I always get to do fire drills in middle school, but now I’m headed to high, you make it very informative and interesting, (btw I loved to see those Canadian L-Seried in action)
Our fire Marshall actually doesn’t allow surprise fire drills. An announcement must be made 15 seconds before the alarm is activated. His reasoning is because with school shootings pulling the fire alarm, he’s not terribly worried about a fully sprinklered building burning to the ground and most of the time the alarm goes off, it’s because an idiot pulled the alarm. We’re perfectly capable of evacuating the school during a surprise alarm but if it’s just a drill, we want to know it’s just a drill.
Our fire department doesn’t really have anything to do with our drills rarely comes to them but they seem to like the surprise ones of course we don’t have the problem with the school shootings though so it’s a little different we also have lots of non-sprinklered schools
@@nics-systems-electric in my opinion, all schools should announce their first one of the year that way expectations can be set for how alarms in the future will be responded to. In my area, we must have two fire drills within one week of school starting and then two for each semester following that. If they announced the first two and did the rest surprise I wouldn’t have a problem with that.
@Marc Leslie if you’re referring to shootings, then yes I agree. I don’t know why people can’t grasp the concept of amendments being amended. The entire point is to adapt with the times because things change. If we are going to apply the rules of 1776, then we should also give people the same weapons available in 1776. People can have their musket and I’m fine with that. There’s no reason to have automatic rifles made available to the general population. For fires however, we have a flawless record because of our high fire drill practice rates and life safety systems in schools.
Great content! Subcribed! Would you mind doing a detail video on the wiring of the devises ex. Facp, pull station, strobes , heat detector , anunciators ect...plz
Because it Hass to be right at the front door without having to open more doors or go through zones there could potentially be a fire in the hallway that is separated from that lobby so it Hass to be there
@@nics-systems-electric yes, but they can just replace the annunciator with the facp, its locked with a panel door, so theres no need for an annunciator unless there is another enterance
@@nics-systems-electric you have a point, but what im trying to point out was before they started construction for this, they could've planned it out before hand
my school wait's for a fire alarm for 30 seconds and have an announcement that it's safe for everyone to go into the hall's and go to the exit. reason why is because if we had a intruder in the school and pulled the fire alarm to get everyone outside and risk our own life's from whatever the intruder would do as in a lockdown.
Only reason I don’t like surprise drills is because I can be sensitive to the loud noise. The thing I don’t understand is if you announce each drill, and an alarm goes off unannounced, aren’t you more likely to think there could be a real situation? Wouldn’t most people want to know if it’s a drill versus the real thing? I’ve seen preannounced drills done and they seem to be just as effective, because people know it’s a drill to practice their procedures. I don’t think you should have to simulate a real fire-people won’t know if there’s a fire or not and that can just lead to panic. I respectfully disagree with the position.
That is the point for people to think there is an emergency to see if people know what to do because whenever they are pre-announced people prepare for them and get all their stuff ready sometimes even leave the building which won’t happen in a real fire
@@nics-systems-electric But eventually it becomes the boy who cried wolf, where people will stop taking it seriously knowing almost every alarm is fake.
At my school they never announce when there will be a fire dril. Not even the first one. For lockdown drills only the first one is announced but the other 3 are unannounced
But for tornado drills they're always announced because like if you were in a room without windows and you can't see the clear weather outside then you'll get confused thinking that it's real if it wasn't announced beforehand and then all the sudden there's clear weather which is why tornado drills should be announced
@@nics-systems-electric I will probably ask my school if i could get to pull education purposes only though it depends as we have 3-4 differnt buildings but i think one controls all of them
Were you testing an emergency generator at one point? I heard a motor start and shut down while you were talking to your partner about how you like surprise fire drills.
I don’t get the point of a surprise drill if. We always do planned drills because if it was a surprise, we would half to bring all of our stuff with us because we would think there is an emerging the building.
It’s up to you to bring your stuff out or not I usually don’t if you know about the drill it’s pointless as you are prepared and not caught off guard you’re never told when there’s gonna be a fire
I feel suprise fire drills are less scary than regular ones because in regular ones, you are waiting for the alarm.
Literally every single fire drill I have experienced were surprise ones.
Yeah that is true actually! The one we had where I work last Fall was a surprise and thought nothing of it after it was over since I didn't see anything coming!
Unfortunately for me though the thought of surprise drills was a big disruptive problem for me in early elementary school to the point I'd worry almost every day of school in the Spring
@@rezymu5337 same here
when i have a fire alarm drill at my school i’m waiting for the alarm too and no matter what we’re doing right when the alarm sounds we leave our tables and get in line to leave the school.
Back in my day (80s and 90s), schools in Ontario were required to conduct 3 drills a year, at my elementary school we sometimes did 2 drills in one day to accommodate the half-day kindergarten classes. They never announced drills when I was in high school (in elementary school, they always announced it plus a follow-up announcement after the drill ended), I remember one time in grade 10 I was heading to my next class and the alarm went off just a split second after I passed it
I have way too many questions because I find this whole process interesting. I agree with surprise fire drills. There were plenty of times when the teacher didn't do any instruction and tried to be coy about it or they straight up told us one was happening during class. You can't plan a fire. I can understand doing planned drills during the first few months of the school year so everyone knows the procedures and are comfortable them, but there should be surprise ones for the rest of the year. It'd be cool if the alarms had some sort of LED indicator to show if it was an alarm triggered by school staff or not. Still, the teachers wouldn't know when it could go off. I mean the procedures should always be the same, but it could provide a sense of relief.
Here in Clark County School District, there can't really be any surprise fire drills anymore because of the whole thing where they have to verify if a fire alarm is legit, if it's a false alarm, or if it's a shooter pulling the alarm to lure people out. We always have to stay in the classrooms until they silence the alarm and make the announcement to evacuate, and in that announcement they also always tell us if it's a drill or not.
That’s absolutely ridiculous
@@nics-systems-electric I know.
In America, whenever a shooter shows up to a school with their fully automatic military rifles with high capacity magazines and hundreds of rounds, one of the tactics they like to use is to pull the fire alarm, and wait for the hallways to get full and crowded with students and teachers and staff before filling the entire hallway up with bullets. So CCSD implemented this rule as a measure against that.
We also have panic buttons in every single classroom, and if the admins don't answer the front office or principle office phone within a certain amount of time after pressing it, it automatically calls the police.
@@Damariobros I can agree with the rules but I think there’s a point that you have to realize if a shooter wants to take massive amounts of life they are going to do it no matter what is stopping them there is always a way and if they are motivated enough they will still kill many
@@nics-systems-electric Yeah, I know. I think it's over-the-top, too.
@@Damariobros At this point I think it’s been made clear that the security measures are not helping the situation and that money could be better allocated other ways I feel since people are gonna do what they wanna do anyways
Ayo first I’m a big fan
Yay for surprise fire drills. I agree with you it's not like there's an announcement like "the school will catch on fire soon" nobody knows until the alarm goes off. Thats the point of a drill
Exactly
Unless there was like a wildfire, otherwise... no 😂😂😂
@@IanGSully true. And If a wildfire was coming I don't think they would have school
Every time there's a fire drill, I get so jump-scared I end up letting out a little scream and it's like lightning shocks all my muscles.
Me too ive been afraid of fire drills since pre school like ten years ago
Apparently some schools tell the students that a drill is coming. Mine just lets us find out the hard way lol
I think surprise fire drills are a lot better because its more realistic and you never know when they're going to happen.
Exactly
I think Suprise fire drills are scarier because When the fire alarm goes off I Pee my Pants from getting scared by the sudden loud noise so to avoid that I go outside 5-10 minutes before the alarm goes off but on 3/13/2024 we had a fire drill but I did not know and no one took me outside 5-10 minutes before the alarm went off and the drill was at 11:10AM and lasted Until 11:20AM but after the fire drill I did not go back to class and I went home at around 11:50AM although on Wednesdays elementary schools in my district go from 9:15AM through 1:30PM while on the rest of school days of the week, which are Mondays Tuesdays Thursdays & Fridays from 9:15AM through 3:40PM
I agree with the stance on surprise fire drills the only issue I have is how do you accommodate for someone that has photo sensitive epilepsy or someone that has certain mental disorders I know there is a documented one for noises especially those triggered by fire alarms I just don't know what it's called. If the person has a mental breakdown and starts screaming etc so much for an organized fire drill
Well I mean a fire can start at anytime
@@nics-systems-electric true I’m just saying if you have people having episodes while you’re trying to evacuate it can cause more chaos and confusion
@@GaryBeltz True that would also happen in real fire situation
I’m triggered by fire alarms and am forcing myself to watch these videos to desensitize me because how else can you do exposure therapy when pulling fire alarms IRL are illegal and it’s rare for fire alarms to go off when you’re graduated from school and only work once a day . I don’t exactly know what caused the trigger my parents think it’s when my mom accidentally burnt chicken a week after my granspa passed on when I was 5 yrs old and I think it was when I was in Kindergarten when we had a fire drill at nap time .
@@autisticgirlawareness7420 you cools always be like one of the fire alarm enthusiasts and get the devices yourself that way you can pull it whenever you feel like it well aside from pissing off the other occupants of yoir house of course lol
i am so scared of fire drills but I am trying to progress
did you disable the dialer or did they call the alarm co?
We always just call the monitoring company
In my school district in the USA we don't know when we have drills and I've experienced a real fire before thanks to a top floor light exploding and it was in December so mad chilly,
Is that that annunciator cabinet custom? I've only ever seen the ABS-2D's.
I don’t think it’s anything special I’ve seen them before a bunch
Nice video keel up the good work!
Thanks
this sounds like the one at my school
Didn’t you guys replace the entire fire alarm system on that school
Yes
This is amazing, I always get to do fire drills in middle school, but now I’m headed to high, you make it very informative and interesting, (btw I loved to see those Canadian L-Seried in action)
Our fire Marshall actually doesn’t allow surprise fire drills. An announcement must be made 15 seconds before the alarm is activated. His reasoning is because with school shootings pulling the fire alarm, he’s not terribly worried about a fully sprinklered building burning to the ground and most of the time the alarm goes off, it’s because an idiot pulled the alarm. We’re perfectly capable of evacuating the school during a surprise alarm but if it’s just a drill, we want to know it’s just a drill.
Our fire department doesn’t really have anything to do with our drills rarely comes to them but they seem to like the surprise ones of course we don’t have the problem with the school shootings though so it’s a little different we also have lots of non-sprinklered schools
@@nics-systems-electric in my opinion, all schools should announce their first one of the year that way expectations can be set for how alarms in the future will be responded to. In my area, we must have two fire drills within one week of school starting and then two for each semester following that. If they announced the first two and did the rest surprise I wouldn’t have a problem with that.
@Marc Leslie For sure I think everyone can see there is a massive problem
@Marc Leslie if you’re referring to shootings, then yes I agree. I don’t know why people can’t grasp the concept of amendments being amended. The entire point is to adapt with the times because things change. If we are going to apply the rules of 1776, then we should also give people the same weapons available in 1776. People can have their musket and I’m fine with that. There’s no reason to have automatic rifles made available to the general population. For fires however, we have a flawless record because of our high fire drill practice rates and life safety systems in schools.
@@dale4231 Yes I was referring to shootings
Great content! Subcribed! Would you mind doing a detail video on the wiring of the devises ex. Facp, pull station, strobes , heat detector , anunciators ect...plz
What day was this filmed
Like two weeks ago I did a bunch of fire drills last week I don’t think we have any this week
Yay my notification worked
I have a question, why is there a need for the annunciator at that specific place when the panel is just a 20 second walk from there?
Because it Hass to be right at the front door without having to open more doors or go through zones there could potentially be a fire in the hallway that is separated from that lobby so it Hass to be there
@@nics-systems-electric yes, but they can just replace the annunciator with the facp, its locked with a panel door, so theres no need for an annunciator unless there is another enterance
@@lightningking1552 All the zones and nac’s come back to the panel so you would have to pipe everything over and power
@@nics-systems-electric you have a point, but what im trying to point out was before they started construction for this, they could've planned it out before hand
@@lightningking1552 Well that was back in 1964 there may not have original been a annunciator this is the third system in the building
Ah yes, love the surprise.
Same
We had a surprise fire drill today that teachers did not know about.
I like those ones
However I Dislike them@@nics-systems-electric
Does that l series have the French lettering. It's rare to find one of those in public
Yes not rare at all here as it’s in Canada
Cool I like it
my school wait's for a fire alarm for 30 seconds and have an announcement that it's safe for everyone to go into the hall's and go to the exit. reason why is because if we had a intruder in the school and pulled the fire alarm to get everyone outside and risk our own life's from whatever the intruder would do as in a lockdown.
That’s crazy that you have to do that just to evacuate
@@nics-systems-electric w h a t
(it’s usual in the us)
Only reason I don’t like surprise drills is because I can be sensitive to the loud noise. The thing I don’t understand is if you announce each drill, and an alarm goes off unannounced, aren’t you more likely to think there could be a real situation? Wouldn’t most people want to know if it’s a drill versus the real thing? I’ve seen preannounced drills done and they seem to be just as effective, because people know it’s a drill to practice their procedures. I don’t think you should have to simulate a real fire-people won’t know if there’s a fire or not and that can just lead to panic. I respectfully disagree with the position.
That is the point for people to think there is an emergency to see if people know what to do because whenever they are pre-announced people prepare for them and get all their stuff ready sometimes even leave the building which won’t happen in a real fire
@@nics-systems-electric But eventually it becomes the boy who cried wolf, where people will stop taking it seriously knowing almost every alarm is fake.
@@MrTylerNicole1 maybe but I doubt it In in a school where emergency protocols are fallowed closely
School still not out for you guys up there?
Nope another month still
@@nics-systems-electric dang school down here just got out.
@@TheJakeman789 Yeah we don’t go back until the end of December though
Did I hear a gentex commander somewhere?
@@demontejohnson2912 I have in fact never heard one in my life in person
At my school they never announce when there will be a fire dril. Not even the first one. For lockdown drills only the first one is announced but the other 3 are unannounced
I think that’s how it should be
But for tornado drills they're always announced because like if you were in a room without windows and you can't see the clear weather outside then you'll get confused thinking that it's real if it wasn't announced beforehand and then all the sudden there's clear weather which is why tornado drills should be announced
At my school since there not in sync there all activated at different times so we know it's coming
I know what that's like unless you're in that one section that always activates first
@@nics-systems-electric I will probably ask my school if i could get to pull education purposes only though it depends as we have 3-4 differnt buildings but i think one controls all of them
Were you testing an emergency generator at one point? I heard a motor start and shut down while you were talking to your partner about how you like surprise fire drills.
No emergency generators at the school
Nice cool
I don’t get the point of a surprise drill if. We always do planned drills because if it was a surprise, we would half to bring all of our stuff with us because we would think there is an emerging the building.
It’s up to you to bring your stuff out or not I usually don’t if you know about the drill it’s pointless as you are prepared and not caught off guard you’re never told when there’s gonna be a fire
1:00 alarm starts
Your buddy looks older than he sounds.
what does  mean in ur titles?
Huh
@@nics-systems-electric in ur titles its has symbols with the words "obj"
@@Uhh.thankyou That does happen sometimes
Hm. I think this was a surprise fire drill.
Yes
i can hear people in the background
I had a lockdown drill today since a while and a fire drill 20 mins after
Where I am, we are lawfully required to do one every half term (although it is not enforced) and every one of them is a surprise fire drill
Hhh