Ballard is amazing at picking players. We had a string of bad luck with Qbs, coaches and injuries. I think we are finally out of the hole. Just have to stay healthy now.
Luck covered up Grigson for years, once the injuries came in and Luck wasn’t on the field you can see how bad the team actually was. Imagine if Ballard came in at 2012 and was given the chance to draft Luck. We’d probably have a Super Bowl and he would still be playing.
I was so hyped during his first offseason because Polian seemingly never signed anyone. All I remember is Greg Toler, Gosder Cherilus, and Ricky Jean-Francois being way overpaid and never doing well.
First off great vid! Also we won 2 Div titles,and while I agree with a lot of what you said, Mewhort wasn’t a bust, and was picked in the 2nd. Also where Grigson doesn’t get enough “praise” for lack of a better word was some of his FA/Trade signings, Jerell Freeman, Mike Adams, Vonate Davis, Dqwell Jackson just to name a few. We all look back at him as if he was fully terrible but he wasn’t, he was an average to bad GM, he wasn’t anymore awful than many GMs I could rattle off my head. He made plenty mistakes as they all do, but Colts fans act like he was the worst in history and it’s not even close to true. Some fans never lived through the 90s lol where Grisgsons worst year would look like greatness lol
Sure, its going too far to say he was the worst GM ever. But he made so many acquisition mistakes that he is definitely one of the worst ever. And one factor that he can't escape that even made his overall records look remotely decent is that he was gifted the pick predesignated for Andrew Luck upon hire, who any clear minded person won't give Grigson credit to acquiring, who clearly carried the team to a level they never would have came close to without him. That first draft class outside of Luck was Grigson's ONLY good class and he had a good wave of FA signings for that 2012-14 window. He gets credit in this window to help create a decent enough team for Luck to boost into that playoff level team. However, the majority of the players that he signed were either so old they couldn't last long enough to make it to another contract or Grigson was never able to work out a secondary long term deal to keep most those younger guys around because he moved on to the players he drafted. Luck, TY, and Vonte were the only exceptions of young talented players he was able to extend past their rookie deals. Ryan Kelly is the ONLY acquisitions outside of that 2012-14 window that panned out, but by then it was way too late for him. Mewhort WAS unfortunately a bust, not because of him lacking in skill but because he only played 1 full healthy season and never made it off his rookie contract before he had to medically retire. And that is why Grigson shouldn't nor will be looked at as even a decent GM. Because while he did hit on a few acquisitions in FA in the first half of his tenure and a handful of drafted players outside that first year, they were mixed in with terrible transactions before he ran out of any decent transactions to cover up for his continued bad transactions in the later half of his tenure. There's a reason that Ballard had to gut the roster Grigson gave him leaving only Luck, TY, Ryan Kelly, and Jack Doyle as the only players left that Grigson acquired after 2 offseasons. I get the sentiment that fans paint him as the worst GM ever being an exaggeration, but he was only remotely "decent" in the first few years he was in charge.
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As bad as Chris Ballard has been, and this pains me to say, Grigson destroyed Luck and left the team in ruins...And Luck single handedly took the franchise to playoff every year. They were bad all around, coaching, front office, OL, D...and Luck carried them all.
He didn’t have a losing season because he had the probably the most talented quarterback ever to play in the NFL. Chris is great, I don’t know why people give him so much hate
Idk if Luck is the most talented to ever play. He definitely was a very rare player with his size and athleticism. But Ryan could've done worse, he was bad don't get me wrong. But it could have been worse.
@@limitless_pulls by raw talent , speed , accuracy , size arm strength and intelligence and his pro readiness you could easily make the argument he was the most talented prospect at QB to ever get drafted. And was on a trajectory to be the best in the NFL, he was coming off an injury to his throwing shoulder and still almost won MVP if it wasn’t for an amazing season by Mahomes he would have. It should be the Mahomes Luck era and arguing over who was better but obviously that’s over lol
Chris Ballard isn't worse, but certainly isn't better, and here's why: Record of 54-60-1 7 total seasons 4 winning 3 losing 2 playoff appearances 1 playoff win 0 division titles Not to mention his stubbornness in free agency. However I will cut him some slack for the first two losing seasons because he didn't have Luck the first season, and Luck retired abruptly before the second season even began, and we had to settle for Jacoby Brissett.
Drafting 2 TEs right after drafting a franchise QB when you have no OL was CRIMINAL. Those two picks terrible. Hiring Pep Hamilton and his dumb college offense on top of that, got Luck murdered and led to him quitting. Drafting Luck and Hilton were the inly good things he did
Nah those two picks were not terrible. Fleener was a borderline Pro Bowler in 2014, Dwayne Allen was also a solid tight end. You can't say it's terrible when those guys were great weapons for Luck to have. He had 4 off seasons after that though where he could've improved the O line and didn't.
@limitless_pulls picking them both makes both picks work. Again, I'd rather have my rookie franchise qb survive than have a couple TEs. The Colts didn't give either of them a second contract. Awful picks, and the first indication that Grigson had no idea how to build a roster
What do you mean picking them both makes both picks work? If that were true wouldn't the Hugh Thorton and Khaled Holmes picks both end up working? Not giving somone a second contract doesn't determine if they were good or not. An awful pick is a guy who doesn't do much for you. He doesn't produce, doesn't contribute, and makes basically no impact. That is not the case here, both those guys contributed a lot. I would not consider their careers awful, or say they ended up being a bust. Look at the rest of Grigsons picks, it's very easy for him to actually draft horribly. It's impressive that he got value out of those picks.
@limitless_pulls sure, they caught a few passes, but at what cost? You said it yourself we had no offensive line. Those picks were extremely valuable, and to use BOTH on luxuries like TEs while lhaving no protection for your new franchise QB is absolutely criminal malpractice. Fleener was no Dallas Clark, which he would've had to be to justify that pick. Dwayne Allen was traded to the Patriots because he was a redundancy. Grigson was awful. I'm agreeing with your premise, I just think you were too lenient on him for how bad he actually was. Dude was playing Madden franchise mode with a real NFL team
It's trendy to hate on Grigson and all but he's not the one who let Bruce Adrian's walk and gave Chuck Pagano his job back. That's how I felt in 2013 and it's how I feel today. Cancer is a monster we all agree on that but this is the NFL and when you fite a coach who turned a 2 win team into a 11 win team for someone who never coached before you get what you get. Everything that came after would have been prevented had Adrian's been there instead of Chuck. Irsay is the reason Luck was ran into the ground. It wasn't on Grigson.😢
I can't find anywhere that says exactly who's decision it was to let Bruce walk. It was probably a collective decision by the front office, which would include Grigson. But if you have something that says otherwise, I believe you. But what I do know, is no matter who your head coach is that offensive line would still be terrible. Grigson was the guy who decided not to draft O lineman in the first round. Grigson was also the guy who drafted some pretty bad O lineman in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I'm not hating on him at all, I think I gave credit where it's due. He had some good picks, signings, and trades. If I just went with who is trendy to not like, I wouldn't like Chris Ballard. But Irsay isn't the guy who made those picks. So I'm intrigued to see how you think the Andrew Luck situation is Jim Irsay's fault.
@@limitless_pullshe did, Grigson just made it easier to make a decision over his last year. But Ballard was already GM when he retired so to say it’s all Grigson is wrong,
Yes I was so ignorant when I gave him credit for giving Luck Weapons like Ty Hilton, Coby Fleener, Donte Moncrif, Philip Dorsett, and Frank Gore. Also gave him credit for some other good aquasitions. He didn't have a great situation to start with, and he left the colts better than when he first was hired. But he still made some pretty big mistakes. I dont see how I was ignorant.
Yeah I know this video is gonna be a lot Grigson ruined lucks career while I do have a love hate relationship with Ballard every time I disagree with Ballard I still remind myself of how much worse he could be aka Grigson that 2012 draft class imo is why he’s not complete shit
Ballard has just as bad. He let go of really good backup running back in Zach Moss. Now, there is no depth in running, so pray Taylor stays healthy. He is not aggressive when he comes to free agency, which leads to no depths in cornerback either.
Yk the salary cap is a thing right? Let go of Zach so we could retain guys like MPJ, Grove, and all those guys. We also drafted several corners, so we do have depth there. Ballard is the guy who got Luck protection. In what universe is he just as bad?
@limitless_pulls That is the only good thing he has done that and Philip Rivers. Good greif Ballard was the guy gave you Rodrigo Blankenship, Davenport, Eric Fisher, Isaiah Roger's, Carson Wetz, Matt Ryan, Jacob Eason, Darrell Baker jr, and Evan Hall i can go on and on all bad choices so yes he just as bad.
@GG-mz7ob Evan Hull played one game and got hurt? How can you say he was a bad pick, he hasn't had a chance to play. Isaiah Rodgers was a good corner idk how that was a bad one. Blankenship was also good until injuries. The rest of those were bad sure, but he's made more good decisions than bad. How can he be just as bad when he was the guy who revived Andrew Luck's career. The main thing Grigson did wrong, is what Ballard did right. I listed a solid 10+ guys that Ballard got us in the video, but I can get a few more rq. He signed Eric Ebron and subsequently knew when to let him go, singed Mark Glowinski, signed Xavier Rhoads, signed Stephon Gilmore, young guys like Jelani Woods, Josh Downs, Nick Cross, Rodney Thomas II, JuJu, and Will Mallory all look like guys who could become good football players. Just look at Ballard's drafts compared to Grigson.
@limitless_pulls Rodrigo was 50/50, not consistent in extra points, and part reasons why lost to the bills 2020 playoffs. Isaiah gamble ruin his career why should kept Gilmore.
@GG-mz7ob literally said Blankenship had his career ruined bc of injuries. He tried to kick through hip injuries and it messed him up. Ya, obviously Isaiah messed up. But when he played he was good. Should've kept Gilmore for what? So we could pay him almost 10 million this year? He's good but I'd rather give a guy like JuJu Brents those snaps. He's young and has a lot of potential.
Building one of the best offensive lines in football, routinely hitting on late round picks, drafting multiple All pro's and pro bowlers, the Shane Steichen hire which seems to be working out well...yup that's a whole lot of shit. Just terrible. I mean, reversing all the damage Grigson did within 2 seasons is an easy job. You or I could do it.
Ya I'm sorry but that's complete bull shit. That's an oversimplification of a complex game. If that were true, would the colts right now be better off if they didn't suck in 2022? No, because then we would still be riding the QB carousel without Anthony Richardson.
I hate the hate on Chris Ballard
Ballard is amazing at picking players. We had a string of bad luck with Qbs, coaches and injuries. I think we are finally out of the hole. Just have to stay healthy now.
Luck covered up Grigson for years, once the injuries came in and Luck wasn’t on the field you can see how bad the team actually was. Imagine if Ballard came in at 2012 and was given the chance to draft Luck. We’d probably have a Super Bowl and he would still be playing.
I was so hyped during his first offseason because Polian seemingly never signed anyone. All I remember is Greg Toler, Gosder Cherilus, and Ricky Jean-Francois being way overpaid and never doing well.
First off great vid! Also we won 2 Div titles,and while I agree with a lot of what you said, Mewhort wasn’t a bust, and was picked in the 2nd. Also where Grigson doesn’t get enough “praise” for lack of a better word was some of his FA/Trade signings, Jerell Freeman, Mike Adams, Vonate Davis, Dqwell Jackson just to name a few. We all look back at him as if he was fully terrible but he wasn’t, he was an average to bad GM, he wasn’t anymore awful than many GMs I could rattle off my head. He made plenty mistakes as they all do, but Colts fans act like he was the worst in history and it’s not even close to true. Some fans never lived through the 90s lol where Grisgsons worst year would look like greatness lol
Sure, its going too far to say he was the worst GM ever. But he made so many acquisition mistakes that he is definitely one of the worst ever. And one factor that he can't escape that even made his overall records look remotely decent is that he was gifted the pick predesignated for Andrew Luck upon hire, who any clear minded person won't give Grigson credit to acquiring, who clearly carried the team to a level they never would have came close to without him. That first draft class outside of Luck was Grigson's ONLY good class and he had a good wave of FA signings for that 2012-14 window. He gets credit in this window to help create a decent enough team for Luck to boost into that playoff level team.
However, the majority of the players that he signed were either so old they couldn't last long enough to make it to another contract or Grigson was never able to work out a secondary long term deal to keep most those younger guys around because he moved on to the players he drafted. Luck, TY, and Vonte were the only exceptions of young talented players he was able to extend past their rookie deals.
Ryan Kelly is the ONLY acquisitions outside of that 2012-14 window that panned out, but by then it was way too late for him. Mewhort WAS unfortunately a bust, not because of him lacking in skill but because he only played 1 full healthy season and never made it off his rookie contract before he had to medically retire.
And that is why Grigson shouldn't nor will be looked at as even a decent GM. Because while he did hit on a few acquisitions in FA in the first half of his tenure and a handful of drafted players outside that first year, they were mixed in with terrible transactions before he ran out of any decent transactions to cover up for his continued bad transactions in the later half of his tenure. There's a reason that Ballard had to gut the roster Grigson gave him leaving only Luck, TY, Ryan Kelly, and Jack Doyle as the only players left that Grigson acquired after 2 offseasons. I get the sentiment that fans paint him as the worst GM ever being an exaggeration, but he was only remotely "decent" in the first few years he was in charge.
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As bad as Chris Ballard has been, and this pains me to say, Grigson destroyed Luck and left the team in ruins...And Luck single handedly took the franchise to playoff every year. They were bad all around, coaching, front office, OL, D...and Luck carried them all.
That Trent Richardson trade was terrible!!
He didn’t have a losing season because he had the probably the most talented quarterback ever to play in the NFL.
Chris is great, I don’t know why people give him so much hate
Idk if Luck is the most talented to ever play. He definitely was a very rare player with his size and athleticism. But Ryan could've done worse, he was bad don't get me wrong. But it could have been worse.
@@limitless_pulls by raw talent , speed , accuracy , size arm strength and intelligence and his pro readiness you could easily make the argument he was the most talented prospect at QB to ever get drafted. And was on a trajectory to be the best in the NFL, he was coming off an injury to his throwing shoulder and still almost won MVP if it wasn’t for an amazing season by Mahomes he would have. It should be the Mahomes Luck era and arguing over who was better but obviously that’s over lol
Chris Ballard isn't worse, but certainly isn't better, and here's why:
Record of 54-60-1
7 total seasons
4 winning
3 losing
2 playoff appearances
1 playoff win
0 division titles
Not to mention his stubbornness in free agency. However I will cut him some slack for the first two losing seasons because he didn't have Luck the first season, and Luck retired abruptly before the second season even began, and we had to settle for Jacoby Brissett.
Drafting 2 TEs right after drafting a franchise QB when you have no OL was CRIMINAL. Those two picks terrible. Hiring Pep Hamilton and his dumb college offense on top of that, got Luck murdered and led to him quitting.
Drafting Luck and Hilton were the inly good things he did
Nah those two picks were not terrible. Fleener was a borderline Pro Bowler in 2014, Dwayne Allen was also a solid tight end. You can't say it's terrible when those guys were great weapons for Luck to have. He had 4 off seasons after that though where he could've improved the O line and didn't.
@limitless_pulls picking them both makes both picks work.
Again, I'd rather have my rookie franchise qb survive than have a couple TEs. The Colts didn't give either of them a second contract.
Awful picks, and the first indication that Grigson had no idea how to build a roster
What do you mean picking them both makes both picks work? If that were true wouldn't the Hugh Thorton and Khaled Holmes picks both end up working? Not giving somone a second contract doesn't determine if they were good or not. An awful pick is a guy who doesn't do much for you. He doesn't produce, doesn't contribute, and makes basically no impact. That is not the case here, both those guys contributed a lot. I would not consider their careers awful, or say they ended up being a bust. Look at the rest of Grigsons picks, it's very easy for him to actually draft horribly. It's impressive that he got value out of those picks.
@limitless_pulls sure, they caught a few passes, but at what cost? You said it yourself we had no offensive line. Those picks were extremely valuable, and to use BOTH on luxuries like TEs while lhaving no protection for your new franchise QB is absolutely criminal malpractice. Fleener was no Dallas Clark, which he would've had to be to justify that pick. Dwayne Allen was traded to the Patriots because he was a redundancy. Grigson was awful. I'm agreeing with your premise, I just think you were too lenient on him for how bad he actually was. Dude was playing Madden franchise mode with a real NFL team
He's the reason Andrew Luck is not our QB right now
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It's trendy to hate on Grigson and all but he's not the one who let Bruce Adrian's walk and gave Chuck Pagano his job back. That's how I felt in 2013 and it's how I feel today. Cancer is a monster we all agree on that but this is the NFL and when you fite a coach who turned a 2 win team into a 11 win team for someone who never coached before you get what you get. Everything that came after would have been prevented had Adrian's been there instead of Chuck.
Irsay is the reason Luck was ran into the ground. It wasn't on Grigson.😢
I can't find anywhere that says exactly who's decision it was to let Bruce walk. It was probably a collective decision by the front office, which would include Grigson. But if you have something that says otherwise, I believe you. But what I do know, is no matter who your head coach is that offensive line would still be terrible. Grigson was the guy who decided not to draft O lineman in the first round. Grigson was also the guy who drafted some pretty bad O lineman in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I'm not hating on him at all, I think I gave credit where it's due. He had some good picks, signings, and trades. If I just went with who is trendy to not like, I wouldn't like Chris Ballard. But Irsay isn't the guy who made those picks. So I'm intrigued to see how you think the Andrew Luck situation is Jim Irsay's fault.
he left luck to die without a real supporting cast, especially with the offensive “line” they put in front of him.
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How TF are you going to leave out driving Boomstick to early retirement?
Didn't Pat retire due to knee injuries?
@@limitless_pullshe did, Grigson just made it easier to make a decision over his last year. But Ballard was already GM when he retired so to say it’s all Grigson is wrong,
Here my heart skipped a beat, but 35 secs in, I came back down. Typical ignorant colts fan
Yes I was so ignorant when I gave him credit for giving Luck Weapons like Ty Hilton, Coby Fleener, Donte Moncrif, Philip Dorsett, and Frank Gore. Also gave him credit for some other good aquasitions. He didn't have a great situation to start with, and he left the colts better than when he first was hired. But he still made some pretty big mistakes. I dont see how I was ignorant.
Yeah I know this video is gonna be a lot Grigson ruined lucks career while I do have a love hate relationship with Ballard every time I disagree with Ballard I still remind myself of how much worse he could be aka Grigson that 2012 draft class imo is why he’s not complete shit
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Richardson...damn he was bad
Ballard has just as bad. He let go of really good backup running back in Zach Moss. Now, there is no depth in running, so pray Taylor stays healthy. He is not aggressive when he comes to free agency, which leads to no depths in cornerback either.
Yk the salary cap is a thing right? Let go of Zach so we could retain guys like MPJ, Grove, and all those guys. We also drafted several corners, so we do have depth there. Ballard is the guy who got Luck protection. In what universe is he just as bad?
@limitless_pulls That is the only good thing he has done that and Philip Rivers. Good greif Ballard was the guy gave you Rodrigo Blankenship, Davenport, Eric Fisher, Isaiah Roger's, Carson Wetz, Matt Ryan, Jacob Eason, Darrell Baker jr, and Evan Hall i can go on and on all bad choices so yes he just as bad.
@GG-mz7ob Evan Hull played one game and got hurt? How can you say he was a bad pick, he hasn't had a chance to play. Isaiah Rodgers was a good corner idk how that was a bad one. Blankenship was also good until injuries. The rest of those were bad sure, but he's made more good decisions than bad. How can he be just as bad when he was the guy who revived Andrew Luck's career. The main thing Grigson did wrong, is what Ballard did right. I listed a solid 10+ guys that Ballard got us in the video, but I can get a few more rq. He signed Eric Ebron and subsequently knew when to let him go, singed Mark Glowinski, signed Xavier Rhoads, signed Stephon Gilmore, young guys like Jelani Woods, Josh Downs, Nick Cross, Rodney Thomas II, JuJu, and Will Mallory all look like guys who could become good football players. Just look at Ballard's drafts compared to Grigson.
@limitless_pulls Rodrigo was 50/50, not consistent in extra points, and part reasons why lost to the bills 2020 playoffs. Isaiah gamble ruin his career why should kept Gilmore.
@GG-mz7ob literally said Blankenship had his career ruined bc of injuries. He tried to kick through hip injuries and it messed him up. Ya, obviously Isaiah messed up. But when he played he was good. Should've kept Gilmore for what? So we could pay him almost 10 million this year? He's good but I'd rather give a guy like JuJu Brents those snaps. He's young and has a lot of potential.
And yet his record is FAR better than Ballard's....
Literally talked about why that doesn't mean Grigson is better...Ballard was the guy who built the best O line in football for Luck in just a year.
@@limitless_pulls no, it just means you're comparing shit and more shit.
Building one of the best offensive lines in football, routinely hitting on late round picks, drafting multiple All pro's and pro bowlers, the Shane Steichen hire which seems to be working out well...yup that's a whole lot of shit. Just terrible. I mean, reversing all the damage Grigson did within 2 seasons is an easy job. You or I could do it.
@@limitless_pulls football is judged by wins and losses, nothing more. Ballard needs to go.
Ya I'm sorry but that's complete bull shit. That's an oversimplification of a complex game. If that were true, would the colts right now be better off if they didn't suck in 2022? No, because then we would still be riding the QB carousel without Anthony Richardson.