That coward Zulu leader dingaan who committed such a horrendous group murder of 100 Voortrekkers got exactly what he deserved. A decisive, crushing loss against a superior people of total faith where he couldn't again use treachery to commit mortal sin to steal his wins. Remember the practical lesson here: NEVER, under any circumstances, should you surrender your weapons to unknown entities. Ever
Piet Retief thought he could solve problems in a more mature way. We had better learn from what happened to him, his son, and the other men in his negotiating party.
Exactly Chris, as we will see in the coming decade, all the signs are there for this has been so ordained. You will be surprised at the number of 'moderate' black South African"s share similar views.
@@Predikant a new voortrek must ocurr in XXI century.... The afrikaner nation reborn in West Australia! A movement to bring most of the afrikaans to resettle in West Australia..
You cannot change history, it is what it is. Accept it as times were different then and both the Boers and the Zulus were fighting for land and the economic prosperity that came from possessing it. History is bloody and there is no need to try to judge it by today's standards or try to soft soap it.
We are many, there is a list of the names of the people who fought there, you will find those people had very large families. My own family has many who had 9, 10 and even 12 children. Of course, we were decimated by deaths in British concentration camps, I have over a 100 relatives listed as deceased in those camps.
@@MrSweetaz Yeh, as an anglo, that is shameful to me. We are really the "eternal anglo" meme of history. However, I think there is more racial awareness now of our kinship in the growing threats of the globalists order.
This event in my opinion was the catalyst for brokered trust and the birth of apartheid.Apartheid grew from this event when Piet relief was murdered because an accurate version described by historians put it that Piet Retief and his delegation went to the Zulu king to negotiate peace and land. The king allowed Piet Retief into the kraal,for negotiations because he was curious of this race who arrived on his land. So this invite into the kraal had a condition, provided he leave his rifles at the entrance. In good faith (but reluctantly) Piet Relief agreed. What followed was a massacre of the Piet Retief and a trusted afrikaner commando and his colleagues who was tasked to stay with the horses and guns, ran off to warn the other afrikaners. The news that Piet relief was deceived by the zulu king and was murdered by the hordes of impi,s became the story of the era. So folklore has it documented that TRUST was brokered because of this incident and this today is the pillar or apartheid...not racism. The battle of blood river was then seen as God vengeance on his Christian people and this scared the Zulus with their "white magic" Vervoed and others before him built upon that MISTRUST and gave it an identity..but the zulu king can be attributed as the instigator to the ongoing mis trust whites will always have about blacks which is a global problem now ,not only in South Africa but around the globe If Trust between nations is solved then we can have peace around the world...but that is asking a lot..
andreas mathios hahahahahahahahahahahah Are you serious? 'If anything, and if your whitewashed version is correct, that was simply karmic blowback. Europeans have been stabbing Black people and other people of color in the back for thousands of years. That is a very white trait; the Zulu were simply pre-empting what was sure to be the white man's future deception. More importantly -- why are whites in Africa to begin with? Africa is for Africans. I have Africa in my dna. You, European, cannot say the same.
+21Brendasue you are wrong. many of us Afrikaans people have San and Khoi blood, lots of mixing in the Cape. We are not Europeans (not many would admit this :) ) We made SA our home at the same time that the Nguni tribes were doing so. I have the utmost respect for the Zulu nation. They were brave warriors. Today we are fellow countrymen. Afrikaner means African. We are here to stay and most South Africans are striving for unity. Hence why 16th December is the Day of Reconciliation
+Shaun de Klerk Race mixing is the one thing that has brought downfall to the white race. Its immoral and a sin to mix. That's what god says in the bible. Plus white genocide is happening now in SA as we speak. Whoever race mixes is a fkn race traitor and an enemy of the white race.
Jonahexx13 So when Moses married Jethro's daughter, that was race mixing, and God told Aron and Meriem to quit being racists... Jethro was an Arab. Abraham was Iranian and he had 2 Arab wives and a Hebrew wife... where do us whites fit in the Bible??? White Genocide is happening, and I stand against all racists, black and white and mixed. Conserve your culture, by all means, but don't hate and justify it by misquoting scripture. God isn't a racist. The white race brought about its own downfall, true, but sadly whites can't stand together, not even in Europe. My point Jonahexx13 is that most Afrikaners are not 100% white to begin with, so we can't call it white genocide. It's a tribal genocide, the Afrikaner genocide, and it has to stop!
History is supposed to be fact, not what people conceive it to be. The conception of various peoples may be completely false because of lack on information or deception.
It is a shame that the English and Dutch didn't get along in that period, they are identical genetically to one another, or were until recent ... newcomers.
Don't call the boer people dutch. Dutch descendants sure. But not dutch. I share no customs with the dutch nor do i speak dutch. I am a boer, not dutch. Calling a boer dutch is like calling a irishman british. You'll get a slap in the face. We are similar but that is where it ends we are 2 different people with two distinctively different languages, culture and history. Only connected by a thin line of blood. Many a coloured people in south africa also have dutch decent but aren't called dutch, despite speaking afrikaans as their mother tongue. The boer and cape coloureds are family of the dutch but we are not the dutch we are 2 distinct groups with entwined and unique history. Also if you know the treatment of boere by the british you'd understand their distaste. I hate the british who put my people in concentration camps. But i do not blame the british of today. I blame the british leaders of yesteryear and the snakes within our ranks that formed the broederbond (the organisation of boer traitors who later institutionalised apartheid to further their own political agenda's over generations sullying the boer name). Do yourself a favour and read up on the broederbond before you blame boere/afrikaners as a whole for apartheid.
@@lukeozade9957 What do you think of the treatment of the blacks in apartheid SA. What is your opinion on what SA could have done differently to avoid becoming what it is today.
@@lukeozade9957 Nice joke. But you are as european as you can be. You speak an indo european language and follow a christian religion. You are just living in denial.
The Zulu's have guns now and the Boers are largely defenceless, the coming decade is going to be an interesting one as the final battle sets the scene.
What about the battle of Isandlwana were the Zulus killed a whole Regiment o f British troops armed with modern lever action Martini rifles, ,,,, hmmmmm????
@@koosbos1114 Quoting from The Battle Of Isandlwana. "The British under Chelmsford pitched camp at Isandlwana on 20 January, but did not follow standing orders to entrench. No laager (circling of the wagons) was formed. Chelmsford did not see the need for one, stating, "It would take a week to make." But the chief reason for the failure to take defensive precautions appears to have been that the British command severely underestimated the Zulus' capabilities.
You do know frontloaders aren't very effective at killing large numbers of combatants right? Guns in 1838 weren't like modern guns. You get that right? Using muskets took time to reload. You have to clean the barrel, then pour gunpowder, then reload. Then shoot. Great they reloaded 1 gun in just under a minute to shoot one shot. That would never on a head on collision with the zulu numbers have won a battle. So yes, it was the strategic planning that achieved the victory of the battle.
You do know the voortrekkers didn't have slave right? Slavery was outlawed in the cape. Nobody owned slaves. I don't know if you know this but some brown people were a part of the voortrekkers. They joined the voortrekkers as they too didn't want to live under british rule. As is known by this story. The voortrekkers didn't have a problem with the zulu but with Dingane because of his actions. As seen at the peace the voortrekkers made with king mpande.
"Solving problems in a more mature way". Tell that to the farmers that are being murdered.
The eternal altruist!
Amen
That coward Zulu leader dingaan who committed such a horrendous group murder of 100 Voortrekkers got exactly what he deserved. A decisive, crushing loss against a superior people of total faith where he couldn't again use treachery to commit mortal sin to steal his wins. Remember the practical lesson here: NEVER, under any circumstances, should you surrender your weapons to unknown entities. Ever
Piet Retief thought he could solve problems in a more mature way. We had better learn from what happened to him, his son, and the other men in his negotiating party.
Sarel Cilliers bet hulle gewaarsku... Toe was hy reg
The voortrekkers were badass
The Voortrekkers were much more than we'll ever even begin to understand
....when provoked, history will repeat itself soon.
Exactly Chris, as we will see in the coming decade, all the signs are there for this has been so ordained.
You will be surprised at the number of 'moderate' black South African"s share similar views.
@@Predikant a new voortrek must ocurr in XXI century.... The afrikaner nation reborn in West Australia! A movement to bring most of the afrikaans to resettle in West Australia..
History, Skatlam, is ALWAYS about the facts and figures.
You cannot change history, it is what it is. Accept it as times were different then and both the Boers and the Zulus were fighting for land and the economic prosperity that came from possessing it. History is bloody and there is no need to try to judge it by today's standards or try to soft soap it.
@Richard Helliwell The Zulus were NOT fighting for their land. It was a CONTRACT - and they (Zulus) breached the contract
This video is informational but it smells of political correctness with several statements about maturity and history is not about facts and figures,
I am wanting to meet a direct descendent of the Voortreckkers.
We are many, there is a list of the names of the people who fought there, you will find those people had very large families. My own family has many who had 9, 10 and even 12 children. Of course, we were decimated by deaths in British concentration camps, I have over a 100 relatives listed as deceased in those camps.
@@MrSweetaz Yeh, as an anglo, that is shameful to me. We are really the "eternal anglo" meme of history. However, I think there is more racial awareness now of our kinship in the growing threats of the globalists order.
@@Blake4014 Anglos and the kosher ones are behind globalism and much else. I should say Anglo Normans, not the Anglo Saxons
Many Boers have at least one ancestor that was a Voortrekker, in fact I'd say most
Amazing monuments in RSA, sadly, troublesome to fit in, in the new South Africa, but it is history
There were 464 men on the Voortrekker side with a few agterryers not 800.
800 includes people who did not fight, but they did auxilliary jobs like loading guns, looking after animals, etc. 464 were people in combat.
This event in my opinion was the catalyst for brokered trust and the birth of apartheid.Apartheid grew from this event when Piet relief was murdered because an accurate version described by historians put it that Piet Retief and his delegation went to the Zulu king to negotiate peace and land.
The king allowed Piet Retief into the kraal,for negotiations because he was curious of this race who arrived on his land.
So this invite into the kraal had a condition, provided he leave his rifles at the entrance.
In good faith (but reluctantly) Piet Relief agreed.
What followed was a massacre of the Piet Retief and a trusted afrikaner commando and his colleagues who was tasked to stay with the horses and guns, ran off to warn the other afrikaners.
The news that Piet relief was deceived by the zulu king and was murdered by the hordes of impi,s became the story of the era.
So folklore has it documented that TRUST was brokered because of this incident and this today is the pillar or apartheid...not racism.
The battle of blood river was then seen as God vengeance on his Christian people and this scared the Zulus with their "white magic"
Vervoed and others before him built upon that MISTRUST and gave it an identity..but the zulu king can be attributed as the instigator to the ongoing mis trust whites will always have about blacks which is a global problem now ,not only in South Africa but around the globe
If Trust between nations is solved then we can have peace around the world...but that is asking a lot..
andreas mathios hahahahahahahahahahahah
Are you serious?
'If anything, and if your whitewashed version is correct, that was simply karmic blowback. Europeans have been stabbing Black people and other people of color in the back for thousands of years. That is a very white trait; the Zulu were simply pre-empting what was sure to be the white man's future deception.
More importantly -- why are whites in Africa to begin with? Africa is for Africans. I have Africa in my dna. You, European, cannot say the same.
+21Brendasue you are wrong. many of us Afrikaans people have San and Khoi blood, lots of mixing in the Cape. We are not Europeans (not many would admit this :) ) We made SA our home at the same time that the Nguni tribes were doing so. I have the utmost respect for the Zulu nation. They were brave warriors. Today we are fellow countrymen. Afrikaner means African. We are here to stay and most South Africans are striving for unity. Hence why 16th December is the Day of Reconciliation
+Shaun de Klerk Race mixing is the one thing that has brought downfall to the white race. Its immoral and a sin to mix. That's what god says in the bible. Plus white genocide is happening now in SA as we speak. Whoever race mixes is a fkn race traitor and an enemy of the white race.
Jonahexx13 So when Moses married Jethro's daughter, that was race mixing, and God told Aron and Meriem to quit being racists... Jethro was an Arab. Abraham was Iranian and he had 2 Arab wives and a Hebrew wife... where do us whites fit in the Bible??? White Genocide is happening, and I stand against all racists, black and white and mixed. Conserve your culture, by all means, but don't hate and justify it by misquoting scripture. God isn't a racist. The white race brought about its own downfall, true, but sadly whites can't stand together, not even in Europe. My point Jonahexx13 is that most Afrikaners are not 100% white to begin with, so we can't call it white genocide. It's a tribal genocide, the Afrikaner genocide, and it has to stop!
Shaun de Klerk Actually most are 100% white.
Interesting history of the battle of Blood River in South Africa!🤨🤠🏞️🇿🇦
Religious zealots!🤨
Wake up...you dont know whats happening in this country...Wake up!!!
History is supposed to be fact, not what people conceive it to be. The conception of various peoples may be completely false because of lack on information or deception.
Oosthiuzen whats with the hand signal ???
It is a shame that the English and Dutch didn't get along in that period, they are identical genetically to one another, or were until recent ... newcomers.
Europeans have their distinct culture and tribal pride. It really was a shame.
Don't call the boer people dutch. Dutch descendants sure. But not dutch. I share no customs with the dutch nor do i speak dutch. I am a boer, not dutch. Calling a boer dutch is like calling a irishman british. You'll get a slap in the face. We are similar but that is where it ends we are 2 different people with two distinctively different languages, culture and history. Only connected by a thin line of blood. Many a coloured people in south africa also have dutch decent but aren't called dutch, despite speaking afrikaans as their mother tongue. The boer and cape coloureds are family of the dutch but we are not the dutch we are 2 distinct groups with entwined and unique history. Also if you know the treatment of boere by the british you'd understand their distaste. I hate the british who put my people in concentration camps. But i do not blame the british of today. I blame the british leaders of yesteryear and the snakes within our ranks that formed the broederbond (the organisation of boer traitors who later institutionalised apartheid to further their own political agenda's over generations sullying the boer name). Do yourself a favour and read up on the broederbond before you blame boere/afrikaners as a whole for apartheid.
@@lukeozade9957 What do you think of the treatment of the blacks in apartheid SA. What is your opinion on what SA could have done differently to avoid becoming what it is today.
@@lukeozade9957 Nice joke. But you are as european as you can be. You speak an indo european language and follow a christian religion. You are just living in denial.
Hi Folks - Our historical story reminds me of Moses and Pharaoh. The Pharaoh (ANC) did not listen to Israel.
2:54 It was not "strategic military planning", if the zulus had guns and the voortrekers had spears, the zulus would have won.
The Zulu's have guns now and the Boers are largely defenceless, the coming decade is going to be an interesting one as the final battle sets the scene.
What about the battle of Isandlwana were the Zulus killed a whole Regiment o f British troops armed with modern lever action Martini rifles, ,,,, hmmmmm????
@@koosbos1114 Quoting from The Battle Of Isandlwana. "The British under Chelmsford pitched camp at Isandlwana on 20 January, but did not follow standing orders to entrench. No laager (circling of the wagons) was formed. Chelmsford did not see the need for one, stating, "It would take a week to make." But the chief reason for the failure to take defensive precautions appears to have been that the British command severely underestimated the Zulus' capabilities.
So , the simple Farmers , hunters Pioneers were better organised than the Professional British Soldiers,,,,,,,, is the only conclusion.
You do know frontloaders aren't very effective at killing large numbers of combatants right? Guns in 1838 weren't like modern guns. You get that right? Using muskets took time to reload. You have to clean the barrel, then pour gunpowder, then reload. Then shoot. Great they reloaded 1 gun in just under a minute to shoot one shot. That would never on a head on collision with the zulu numbers have won a battle. So yes, it was the strategic planning that achieved the victory of the battle.
They left the cape colony because the British ended slavery there.
You do know the voortrekkers didn't have slave right? Slavery was outlawed in the cape. Nobody owned slaves. I don't know if you know this but some brown people were a part of the voortrekkers. They joined the voortrekkers as they too didn't want to live under british rule. As is known by this story. The voortrekkers didn't have a problem with the zulu but with Dingane because of his actions. As seen at the peace the voortrekkers made with king mpande.