Only the fundamentals of mathematics are really needed. I was terrible at math in high school because I had no interest but as I went back to school when I was older to study cyber security I actually enjoyed it also I had been working in banking for years so I became more comfortable with numbers as I got older. I wouldn't let the mathematics side of things put you off going after a career in cyber security, you got this!
tfw you realize you learn all those math back in high school wasn't because life demands it, but because it order to get your dream job, you gotta take those hellish degrees that contains scary ass math modules. industry might not really make you use a lot of what you learn in math, but the degree or whatever course you're taking (certificate, polytechnic, etc) will require you to pass all those math tests and exams😅 One of my friends is a culinary student and even that requires them to take a math module (which im not sure what was it). Feels like no matter what profession you're pursuing, you can never escape math. No pass no dream job. Life is pain.
Rather than a "filter" I'd look at those math classes required as a way to exercise your mind to become better in problem solving. Math is just a language to make those exercises abstract enough to be able to reuse skills gained in different applications.
Good perspective. We can always benefit from exercising the mind. Especially in a university setting, where you have to take these classes before getting into major-specific classes.
Dear I do like syber security but I m do know math or a lot of calculations do you you think I can do this .. please help , how long I need to learn this just for a short training course
Infosec made math so much fun to learn for me. I remember the first encryption I reverse engineered, WITH the help of my new math skills I had at the time. It made me so proud and eventually urged me to learn even more.
can I ask exactly what your degree was/is in? im taking CompSci w/a focus on security so im wondering if at some point we'll tackle encryption. Im only 6 months in so I may be a little early but I would love to learn cryptography. Closet thing with math we've done is things like subnetting, conversion stuff like that but no cryptography.
Well, it sort of depends. If you want to do research in cryptography you certainly need a lot of abstract algebra and number theory. Both of which require rigorous knowledge in mathematical proofs.
You don’t need advanced maths skills, however you do need problem solving skills and an understanding in mathematical cryptography. The reality is the higher up the chain you go and the more technical your role, the more likely you will need a basic understanding. Same again in programming you will need to understand Boolean and linear algebra at least at a rudimentary level.
You need linear algebra, discrete math, some calculus, and you'll eventually learn about binary operations, masking, and base translations. Oh and you must learn powers of 2 from 0-10, 20, 30, 40 and to do math with them. For example, how many 4Ki are in 16mi? Very important in memory management and networking.
@@mostafayahia7237 I’m only in my second semester of college but I’m I was in the same boat as u I didn’t know any math, but simply put I took foundation of algebra my first semester which was 4 months and that really helped me understand basic math like fractions and factoring, then I took a combined class of intro and college algebra which was a horrible idea because it just skims through both classes and u don’t really learn anything, it’s all graphs and stuff. I would simply say maybe 8 months to a year, if ur using school. Idk how self teaching would work tho, i was never good at self teaching when it came to math cause I was all over the place
@@mostafayahia7237 Depends on your strategy and how much time you'd like to commit. I'd imagine like you were a part-time student so 2 at a time. I'd say 1 year. Aso for the binary operations try at computer architecture to dive into that.
I nailed my digital forensics unit, offensive security unit, Web dev unit and all my cyber theory and management units but because I missed a hurdle for cryptography I have to extend my degree a whole year. Maths may not be needed in practice but it sure as hell can screw you over in uni
I'm a C.S student and its my 3rd year. I going to start Cyber sec journey, C.S covers concepts here and there (everywhere) and It has been useful for me to know where to land. I have only 1 yr and half left before graduation. The things I have learned are well Web Dev for sure , lots of nasty math (which I don't like nowadays bc its just too much) and algorithms. Can anyone give me an advice. In pursue of Cybersec I have started to take Cisco Training to grasp networking concepts
Degrees are only ways to filter through the competition. The key of wisdom is that you need to learn from the best resources and work hard and achieve results. Doesn’t matter which route you take. Make sure they fall into learning from the best
Exploit development? Buffer overflow? Boolean operators? I would say penttesting/hacking "electronics" or even cilinderlocks is very mathemathical thinking.
Which university is this??? At most state universities, Calculus 2 is required for all Engineering and Computer Sci related programs. How does your university only require precalc?
I’m pretty sure he took a Calculus class at his university. He was talking about going into the industry and working in the CyberSecurity field. I had to take Calculus in my first couple years as well. But now looking back at it, I think it was a waste of time even tho it was required.
I did not have to take precalc for my degree program, cybersecurity. University is Southeast Missouri State. But Brandon is correct, I am talking about going into industry and working in field itself!
Hey, I was wondering what app(software) you use to edit your videos, they really come out great and i want to give it a try. Looking forward for your replay ;)
Hello! I'm watching your videos and they are helpful My questions are what are you recommending with the person who wants to study cybersecurity as you are experienced, and what needs to be done to start with like learning fundamentals I.T algorithms , mathematics , HTML , CSS , JavaScript , Python?
Hello, happy to help. To start off, I would suggest building a structured "learning plan." It doesn't have to be complicated, maybe a paper which outlines some resources to get started with. For the I.T. fundamentals, take a look into hardware, software, networking. There are plenty of free and affordable resources out there. Check out this list of resources here: cybercademy.org/resources
bro i m interested in ethical hacking but in university there is only cyber security field available,should i go in bs cyber security or not plz guide me fully......and i heard that universities doesnot focus on practical knowledge just theoretical what r ur thoughts on this
#1 That math problem isn't difficult it has more to do with your own weakness for this lesson lets call it a Vulnerability. #2 This video is 4min long i'm not watching this after the first few words. The answer is yes you need math for EVERYTHING! From basic math skills to advanced you need them all. From my personal experience I don't even have to google this stuff to tell you: For digital signal processing which you will use in cyber security has basic math functions like sin and cos along with their inverse and how many programmers do not even know the standard math library very well. In cryptography there are all sorts of numerical properties you have yet to even hear of. The math gets harder not easier so don't let people tell you different read papers and get used to it. It's late for me right now or I would try to remember some of the things that might actually help you do that. The math notation on papers is difficult not the math its actually pretty simple arithmetic and cancelation because you can input 1's into most of the variables .
As highlighted in the video, I didn't say you wouldn't need math at all. Programming and Cryptography are two big areas which will need math. The purpose of this message surrounds more of a typical cybersecurity analyst job rather than development or research position - really depends on the area of focus.
In an entry-level security job, you can cope without math. But if you want to go into management and consultancy, then you're going to need to understand the complex math required for producing realistic probability calculations. If you don't, then you're going to be blind guessing your ARO for security risks and potentially wasting company money. If someone was to come to me with no mathematical analysis to back up ARO and EF values then I'm going to see those numbers as BS.
thank you so much well you literally cleared my fear .im thinking to enrol in eccouncil university will only certification courses enough or bachloer degree with 7 certification is better?
A question! The videos that you are making are they your own self-study program, or you really implementing your knowledge from your current or previous classes?
You can go for a Master's if you would like. It's completely up to you! I am not sure where you are from, but I do advise on looking into a Master's program in the United States or Western Countries, as they will provide more employment opportunities when you graduate. That's not to say you couldn't find anything in another country. Just some advice I give to students considering Master's.
Math will jst help you to analyze and use a bit of reasoning while coding as well as Octets and Routing, but that could be easily managed with basic arithmetics.
I love Firefox! I like it because of the built-in privacy, what the company represents, and the UI! Also has some cool features and is security and privacy focused.
Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo vraiment je suis étudiant en première année de cybersecurité j'adore tout ce qui est réseau mais j'ai beaucoup de problème avec les math j'y comprends rien du tout de plus que j'ai fait une série technique... donc j'avais peur de pas réussir dans le domaine mais ta vidéo m'a réconforter
@@protonpixels9096 j'ai été obligé pour résoudre mon problème des math dr laisser l'école dans laquelle j'étais inscrit pour faire actuellement une formation en maintenance et réseau informatique...je te conseille la même chose si tu n'arrive toujours pas en t'en sortir en math essaye de trouver 7ne formation annexe en réseau et après ta formation enchaîne encore et encore les formation sur formation en informatique pour te perfectionner et ensuite renseigne toi sur comment passer les certification international comme comptia
in the industry you don't rly need math. but when you're studying for the degree that will allow you to enter the field, you have to take all those scary math modules 😥😥😥 life is pain. i rmb someone who's only started taking algebra asked me why math is necessary and how stupid it is, and I told him math is needed not because the industry demands it, but because for the sake of getting that degree to "permit" yourself into the industry, you gotta need to be good at math to survive all those tests and exams. 🤣
I just started my career as a cyber security analyst five days ago, and the truth is that you don’t need any math at all. The only critical thing is your communication skills and writing skills because you will be talking to your clients and writing a report that’s well written and details. Anyone can be in cybersecurity if you have a passion for it and are willing to learn new things. You don’t need to be wise to be in this field. Hard work will get you paid!
@@ShuaibGrove I’m currently a junior in college pursuing cybersecurity, but I have my SEC+ tho, and that’s what helped me gain knowledge and skills to qualify for my new position
@@sahilbhatt7864 I’m still in college, and I’m currently taking the basics of python programming, btw you don’t need programming in cybersecurity. Trust me; I was nervous and overthinking stuff because I had so many rejections when applying for this role. But keep going and work hard. FYI: college is good and not good because it doesn't prepare you for a job. My cybersecurity manager only had two years of an associate degree and no certs but “they “ got the knowledge and knew how to do their job.
Only the fundamentals of mathematics are really needed. I was terrible at math in high school because I had no interest but as I went back to school when I was older to study cyber security I actually enjoyed it also I had been working in banking for years so I became more comfortable with numbers as I got older. I wouldn't let the mathematics side of things put you off going after a career in cyber security, you got this!
Great story'. What old you sir
@@adipurnomo5683 late 30's if thats helpful.
@@Aries_Alpha you inspired sir
Sir, how did you acquire a job? Were you offered from the school or you had to search for it on linkdin
This is so inspirational because i hate math😣
Math started getting complicated when some GENIUS decided to toss the alphabet into the mix🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
tfw you realize you learn all those math back in high school wasn't because life demands it, but because it order to get your dream job, you gotta take those hellish degrees that contains scary ass math modules.
industry might not really make you use a lot of what you learn in math, but the degree or whatever course you're taking (certificate, polytechnic, etc) will require you to pass all those math tests and exams😅
One of my friends is a culinary student and even that requires them to take a math module (which im not sure what was it). Feels like no matter what profession you're pursuing, you can never escape math.
No pass no dream job. Life is pain.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol
If you get stepped by that, Wait till you find the Greek letters
Rather than a "filter" I'd look at those math classes required as a way to exercise your mind to become better in problem solving. Math is just a language to make those exercises abstract enough to be able to reuse skills gained in different applications.
Good perspective. We can always benefit from exercising the mind. Especially in a university setting, where you have to take these classes before getting into major-specific classes.
Dear I do like syber security but I m do know math or a lot of calculations do you you think I can do this .. please help , how long I need to learn this just for a short training course
Infosec made math so much fun to learn for me. I remember the first encryption I reverse engineered, WITH the help of my new math skills I had at the time. It made me so proud and eventually urged me to learn even more.
can I ask exactly what your degree was/is in? im taking CompSci w/a focus on security so im wondering if at some point we'll tackle encryption. Im only 6 months in so I may be a little early but I would love to learn cryptography. Closet thing with math we've done is things like subnetting, conversion stuff like that but no cryptography.
Well, it sort of depends. If you want to do research in cryptography you certainly need a lot of abstract algebra and number theory. Both of which require rigorous knowledge in mathematical proofs.
You don’t need advanced maths skills, however you do need problem solving skills and an understanding in mathematical cryptography. The reality is the higher up the chain you go and the more technical your role, the more likely you will need a basic understanding. Same again in programming you will need to understand Boolean and linear algebra at least at a rudimentary level.
Thank you for this video i was really nervous regarding this topic but you and all the comments have assured me that i can do this.
I appreciate that you give the answer straight out of the way, it makes me more interested in the rest of the video.
definitely yeah, imagine if everyone does that
I was lookin for this video thanks for this man 🤝🏻
It's all fun and games until you have to solve 3 congruences using the Chinese Remainer Theorem : )
You need linear algebra, discrete math, some calculus, and you'll eventually learn about binary operations, masking, and base translations. Oh and you must learn powers of 2 from 0-10, 20, 30, 40 and to do math with them. For example, how many 4Ki are in 16mi? Very important in memory management and networking.
how long it will take from me to learn all of them from scratch, because I just finished my high school and I don't know anything about math...
@@mostafayahia7237 yes how much will it take to learn all that
@@mostafayahia7237 I’m only in my second semester of college but I’m I was in the same boat as u I didn’t know any math, but simply put I took foundation of algebra my first semester which was 4 months and that really helped me understand basic math like fractions and factoring, then I took a combined class of intro and college algebra which was a horrible idea because it just skims through both classes and u don’t really learn anything, it’s all graphs and stuff. I would simply say maybe 8 months to a year, if ur using school. Idk how self teaching would work tho, i was never good at self teaching when it came to math cause I was all over the place
Can u tell some courses about each or a book please
@@mostafayahia7237 Depends on your strategy and how much time you'd like to commit. I'd imagine like you were a part-time student so 2 at a time. I'd say 1 year. Aso for the binary operations try at computer architecture to dive into that.
Always get a lot of tips and insights from your videos! Lots of thanks from Korea
I nailed my digital forensics unit, offensive security unit, Web dev unit and all my cyber theory and management units but because I missed a hurdle for cryptography I have to extend my degree a whole year. Maths may not be needed in practice but it sure as hell can screw you over in uni
Waiting for my days!!!! Finally!!!!!
Thanks mate i was looking this for a long.🙂👍❤️
I'm a C.S student and its my 3rd year. I going to start Cyber sec journey, C.S covers concepts here and there (everywhere) and It has been useful for me to know where to land. I have only 1 yr and half left before graduation. The things I have learned are well Web Dev for sure , lots of nasty math (which I don't like nowadays bc its just too much) and algorithms. Can anyone give me an advice. In pursue of Cybersec I have started to take Cisco Training to grasp networking concepts
I am thinking of pursuing cybersecurity, but I am not good with maths. I do love coding but maths
Also, what if we want to go for ethical hacking?
Update!
Degrees are only ways to filter through the competition. The key of wisdom is that you need to learn from the best resources and work hard and achieve results. Doesn’t matter which route you take. Make sure they fall into learning from the best
Math helps you construct custom code that allows you to control arbitrary that way you can reuse whatever your purpose for it.
Exploit development? Buffer overflow? Boolean operators? I would say penttesting/hacking "electronics" or even cilinderlocks is very mathemathical thinking.
Very true! Good thoughts to consider.
Which university is this??? At most state universities, Calculus 2 is required for all Engineering and Computer Sci related programs. How does your university only require precalc?
I’m pretty sure he took a Calculus class at his university. He was talking about going into the industry and working in the CyberSecurity field. I had to take Calculus in my first couple years as well. But now looking back at it, I think it was a waste of time even tho it was required.
I did not have to take precalc for my degree program, cybersecurity. University is Southeast Missouri State. But Brandon is correct, I am talking about going into industry and working in field itself!
Crazy how I know what the first equation says, but I wish I could find a way to apply with cyber security.
Hey, I was wondering what app(software) you use to edit your videos, they really come out great and i want to give it a try. Looking forward for your replay ;)
Me Too
Hi! I use Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects.
Hello! I'm watching your videos and they are helpful
My questions are what are you recommending with the person who wants to study cybersecurity as you are experienced, and what needs to be done to start with like learning fundamentals I.T
algorithms , mathematics , HTML , CSS , JavaScript , Python?
Hello, happy to help. To start off, I would suggest building a structured "learning plan." It doesn't have to be complicated, maybe a paper which outlines some resources to get started with. For the I.T. fundamentals, take a look into hardware, software, networking. There are plenty of free and affordable resources out there. Check out this list of resources here: cybercademy.org/resources
Thanks for the reply I get it, but what is the next 🚶step
0:34 NECESSARILY 👁👄👁
Thank god I started to study math anyways but started just known the basics.
Im currently going in for a 2 year associates degree in IT CyberSecurity, I am wondering if and which math classes I’d be taking
Then what about eliiptic chryptography
bro i m interested in ethical hacking but in university there is only cyber security field available,should i go in bs cyber security or not plz guide me fully......and i heard that universities doesnot focus on practical knowledge just theoretical what r ur thoughts on this
Thanks mate. Very helpful video.
Dig that Logic poster in the back man
#1 That math problem isn't difficult it has more to do with your own weakness for this lesson lets call it a Vulnerability. #2 This video is 4min long i'm not watching this after the first few words. The answer is yes you need math for EVERYTHING! From basic math skills to advanced you need them all.
From my personal experience I don't even have to google this stuff to tell you:
For digital signal processing which you will use in cyber security has basic math functions like sin and cos along with their inverse and how many programmers do not even know the standard math library very well.
In cryptography there are all sorts of numerical properties you have yet to even hear of.
The math gets harder not easier so don't let people tell you different read papers and get used to it. It's late for me right now or I would try to remember some of the things that might actually help you do that. The math notation on papers is difficult not the math its actually pretty simple arithmetic and cancelation because you can input 1's into most of the variables .
As highlighted in the video, I didn't say you wouldn't need math at all. Programming and Cryptography are two big areas which will need math. The purpose of this message surrounds more of a typical cybersecurity analyst job rather than development or research position - really depends on the area of focus.
Hey Grant,
Can you please make a video about Windows Security (W10 vs. W11) ? What has changed etc.?
Thank you so much
Video coming soon
@@collinsinfosec thanks!!!
No but I need your videos more :)
I will try ;)
Do you have an idea what i should get if im not good at math what cyber security job is good for people who suck at math?
First. Useful video. Thank you
In an entry-level security job, you can cope without math. But if you want to go into management and consultancy, then you're going to need to understand the complex math required for producing realistic probability calculations. If you don't, then you're going to be blind guessing your ARO for security risks and potentially wasting company money. If someone was to come to me with no mathematical analysis to back up ARO and EF values then I'm going to see those numbers as BS.
My strength in maths and further maths serves as an asset :)
Is it worth paying for a 6 month cyber security certificate, can one get a home job with that as a analyst?
Thank you!!!
thank you so much well you literally cleared my fear .im thinking to enrol in eccouncil university will only certification courses enough or bachloer degree with 7 certification is better?
I m doing my as levels do u think it's okay if I don't take math?
Yeah but how do you make those technologies... with math
A question! The videos that you are making are they your own self-study program, or you really implementing your knowledge from your current or previous classes?
They are my own self-study. I do videos on college studies, but all the projects are my own doing.
I wanted to do my degree in university but I was fearing maths but after watching this vedio, I will apply right now 🥰🥰🥰🥰
What happened brother now?
What about Math?
bro you starting your collage degree because there's no mathematics in your field 😂😂😂 you're funny guy
hi
What are all the libraries you know in Python?
Boom I was looking for this .. very useful video bro .. thank you ✌️😎✌️
Thanks dude 👍
could i study Cyber security once im qualify Information technology?
Thanks 😊
Short answer: Linear Algebra.
Long answer: 'This Video'
Just know multiples of 4 8 32 and 64 sometimes 128 xD
Cmon, you don't know an indefinite integral taught in freshman year of high school?
I have a Bachelor degree in Mathematics.
In that case, do I eligible for a Masters in Cybersecurity?
What should I do?
Please help🙏
You can go for a Master's if you would like. It's completely up to you! I am not sure where you are from, but I do advise on looking into a Master's program in the United States or Western Countries, as they will provide more employment opportunities when you graduate. That's not to say you couldn't find anything in another country. Just some advice I give to students considering Master's.
can u do a video about Python maybe using PyCharm?? :)
Math will jst help you to analyze and use a bit of reasoning while coding as well as Octets and Routing, but that could be easily managed with basic arithmetics.
If math is not as important in the industry then why does the course list all types of math 😂
Grant why do you use Firefox? I have this curiosity 🤔
It has foxy proxy and it is useful for bupsuite, and some other extensions I guess so
@@zgrowingpains6290 Interesting... I didn't know that. I thought he used it for privacy reasons.
@@GuilhermeHenrique-mh7qq yeah he maybe use it for many other reasons
@@zgrowingpains6290 I understood :) thanks for the help friend
I love Firefox! I like it because of the built-in privacy, what the company represents, and the UI! Also has some cool features and is security and privacy focused.
You didnt have to take calculus 1 and 2?
I did not.
Hey i need you to give advice for 16 years old . Plz......
Hi, what's up?
@@collinsinfosec i am good bro . What about you ?
Math is essential to train your mind to solve problems and be creative
can you make more videos about CTF:((
I will be doing a series in the coming months on entry-level CTFs. A beginner myself to the seen of CTFs.
Me only watching 18 seconds of the video because I just wanted to know if you need math in cybersecurity.
average on salary of cyber security engineer please answer me
Seriously guys, what is a job in computer science that needs math.
Do pen tester need to know math?
No
Hi Collins
Hi Yilin!
That why hacker is better life then programmer
You need math because it teaches you logical and is good for programming/scripting
Very valid!
Probably
Hey ,mom
I just found a great channel randomly on TH-cam.. !
same
i dunno, im always resolving Pi when i work my raspberries! xD
Please excuse my dear ant Sally
Math is really cool in logical thinking but is not required in real world job.
Fuck It! I use math biweekly and I’ve seen the ones who don’t use mathematics have lower wages too.
Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo vraiment je suis étudiant en première année de cybersecurité j'adore tout ce qui est réseau mais j'ai beaucoup de problème avec les math j'y comprends rien du tout de plus que j'ai fait une série technique... donc j'avais peur de pas réussir dans le domaine mais ta vidéo m'a réconforter
Hey how did your maths go i wanna join this field too but I'm really bad at maths
@@protonpixels9096 j'ai été obligé pour résoudre mon problème des math dr laisser l'école dans laquelle j'étais inscrit pour faire actuellement une formation en maintenance et réseau informatique...je te conseille la même chose si tu n'arrive toujours pas en t'en sortir en math essaye de trouver 7ne formation annexe en réseau et après ta formation enchaîne encore et encore les formation sur formation en informatique pour te perfectionner et ensuite renseigne toi sur comment passer les certification international comme comptia
maths is easy until the alphabets come .
in the industry you don't rly need math. but when you're studying for the degree that will allow you to enter the field, you have to take all those scary math modules 😥😥😥
life is pain. i rmb someone who's only started taking algebra asked me why math is necessary and how stupid it is, and I told him math is needed not because the industry demands it, but because for the sake of getting that degree to "permit" yourself into the industry, you gotta need to be good at math to survive all those tests and exams. 🤣
is it difficult? If it is then how hard is it? Plz tell me bro bcz i am very bad at math and i don’t like it at all😢
Not hard if you put the work in to learn it
You dont need math, but it will help a lot when dealing with conceptual problems, that for sure EVERYBODY will eventually encounter.
De Boo Da
Cyber Security needs math as well as machine learning 🔥🔥
You guys don't know integrals? And you call yourselves engineers.....
Who said I called myself an engineer? 😂
I just started my career as a cyber security analyst five days ago, and the truth is that you don’t need any math at all.
The only critical thing is your communication skills and writing skills because you will be talking to your clients and writing a report that’s well written and details. Anyone can be in cybersecurity if you have a passion for it and are willing to learn new things. You don’t need to be wise to be in this field. Hard work will get you paid!
Did you go the degree route or certs route? If you got a degree which degree was it?
Did u completed MS in cyber security? If yes then what programming language where thought to you during your masters
@@ShuaibGrove I’m currently a junior in college pursuing cybersecurity, but I have my SEC+ tho, and that’s what helped me gain knowledge and skills to qualify for my new position
@@sahilbhatt7864 I’m still in college, and I’m currently taking the basics of python programming, btw you don’t need programming in cybersecurity.
Trust me; I was nervous and overthinking stuff because I had so many rejections when applying for this role. But keep going and work hard.
FYI: college is good and not good because it doesn't prepare you for a job. My cybersecurity manager only had two years of an associate degree and no certs but “they “ got the knowledge and knew how to do their job.
You need to have the collateral experience to be able to succeed!
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