The Hobbywing 5690 1250KV Motors is awesome! Its the best choice for the Traxxas X-Maxx Traxxas XRT Arrma Outcast 8s Arrma Kraton 8s EXB or any large scale RC!
Cool and it still performs like a beast with that smaller sensored motor i'm thinking about this same Motor and ESC for my X-Maxx and maybe my Outcast 8s EXB V1 like your truck.
This may sound really strange but I don't really watch a lot of RC TH-cam. I do like Jason perrin Aussie RC playground and there are a couple of other small channels that I watch. I go back and watch old ultimate RC videos from time to time too :-)
Yeah they're pretty fun. Honestly I think I like my X-Max better but it might just be what I'm used to more. I've got a lot more run time on the X-Max platform than I do on the 8S outcast platform.
@DoRC yeah true but the new arrma outcast 2023 is not much different than from the old one I think it's just the body shell upgrade maybe the motor setup. But for the money I will stick with the one l have now which came out last year. Its still a alsome truck. Plenty of power bud on 8s for me. My setup I'm running is 39/39 the esc max set on 2 not 5 I think it be to crazy fast 😜😳
Really depends. If you already have the old e x b roller then yeah I wouldn't recommend getting the new one. If you can get the cheap roller that was on sale a while back that would also be a better deal even with putting your own electronics in but barring that there really aren't a lot of options other than the new one so if that's what you want that's probably what you're going to have to get.
Yeah I think that would be a good combo. The truck that I recorded this in weighs almost 30 lb dry which is a lot heavier than an XRT. I was fairly conservatively geared because I wanted to run it on 10S but especially with a cooling fan I think you could push this motor pretty hard with the lighter XRT.
Thanks a bunch for posting this. Building a New XRT Slider. First Electric RC. Had Nitro & Gas since the 70's. Ive been trying to decide between the 5690 & 56118 (1100kv) to pair with the MAX5. This is another video steering me to the 5690. Although this being my 1st. Electric, I have no idea if the 56118 would be a better choice. Any info on how the 56118 would differ from the 5690 performance wise ? I'll be running the M2C Motor Mount, 1:5 Scale wheels & tires.
The 56118 will be more powerful but it'll also be heavier and more prone to flexing the motor mount while bashing. I've been running the 5687 in my very heavy X-Max for quite some time now and have never felt the need for more power. Personally unless you're wanting to do speed runs the 5690 should be all the power you need.
@@DoRC Thanks for the info ! I just wasn't sure which one was less prone to overheating. Being my 1st. electric, wasn't sure what ratio to go with as I'm seeing people using all kinds of different ratios. Stock speeds or slightly more is where I'll want it. 25/30 with 1.5 seems to be a common gear selection.
@ImAcoastpedder The larger the motor the more power it has so the less likely it'll be to overheat. The sacrifice you make is more weight and more chance of it flexing the mound or possibly breaking something. If you're going to go 1250 KV I would recommend starting at maybe 22. I run 21 on my 1100 KV and it feels pretty good for general bashing. 25 might be a bit aggressive.
It's not terribly difficult as long as you get good equipment. A lot of people make the mistake of buying cheap equipment and that's going to make life very difficult. Pick up a Hakko FX888D with a genuine hakko wide chisel tip some kester 63/37 lead core 0.030 diameter solder, watch some videos on soldering connectors, do some practicing and you'll be fine. I know that the equipment recommended is a bit of an investment but the solder lasts a long time and the iron is something you can have for the rest of your life. It's definitely a good skill to have!
I used to do speed runs but I don't really have a good place to do them and it's not really my thing but I definitely could do them again. The problem is that top speed is such a subjective thing. Depends on your batteries your gearing temperature tires surface driver skill the phase of the moon etc so getting reliably comparable results is kind of difficult.
If you want the fastest possible setup you want to put the biggest possible motor you can in there. I think the max4 combo will technically fit with certain motor mounts. That 112S will give you the most power. If you want to go a little more reasonable get the 56118 motor as it's larger than this one.
@@DoRC that’s good to hear because I already bought 4 4S 9500 150c one more question please I am running a hobby wing max five G2 with the 1100 KV motor censored in an XRT. Do you think a 25 35 gear ratio is too high?
@@i4nic256 I would say there's three parts to it. The first one is at the 150 amp Spectrum ESC does have a higher failure rate than you would expect. The second one and the third one are kind of related. People like to upgrade stuff because upgrading is fun and pretty much anything included in an RTR is going to get put down because it helps people justify making those upgrades :-) In general the spectrum electronics are pretty good though.
@@gerasischristos8750 the smaller one is a pnw RC madness ramp kit. Highly recommend it. It's been through hell and back and is still doing well. The larger one is when I made myself. It's about 4 ft wide 4 ft long and a 2 and 1/2 ft tall.
I'd go for the 1250. The Max 5 G2 doesn't really seem to like running in sensorless mode so the 1250 is probably more appropriate. 2535 might be a bit aggressive for that KV. I'm running 2235 on my 1100 KV motor and that feels just about right. It really depends on your bashing style and terrain though.
@@kakle1988 would be best to keep an eye on both. I personally like to keep under 180f or so but I think the overheat cut off is 205 f. Both the ESC and the 1250 KV motor have internal temperature sensors so they should prevent themselves from getting damaged but it's still best to keep an eye on it
@Atris_965 Not that hobby wing sells. Their 70125 motor Will do 12S. I'm sure there are 14s capable motors out there but I'm not really familiar with running that high cell count. Maybe contact TP motor and see if they can help you out.
The motor rocks but the ESC eally didn't like it. The G2 Max 5 does not seem to get along well with sensorless motors. Even the 1250 KV motor starts up poorly when you disconnect the sensor cable.
It's probably just down to weight and gearing. My outcast weighs like 33 lb with batteries and it's a lot of weight for that motor. I put it in that one because I wanted to test it to its limit.
I have an over weight xmaxx.. im running a max 6 and the stock motor.. i modified the end bell of the motor and got a cheap aftermarket motor mount so i can run mod 1.5 gear.. 16/35 to be exact.. it heats up super fast.. i think my kvs are to high.. any suggestions? Ineed a cheap option.. ive already blown way to much money 😂
If your x-max is heavy other than gearing extremely conservatively there's really no way out other than upgrading the power system. 1635 is quite a bit more aggressive than stock gearing which would be more like 1235. You can try going to that and see if that helps. GPM makes a 12 tooth pinion with a 5 mm bore in mod 1.5. Ultimately though if your truck is heavy the stock Motor is going to struggle no matter what you do. It's sufficient for a stock truck but that's about it.
@@DoRC thats what i was thinking.. but i have an update.. i put a spectrum 5687 1100kv.. i still have the max 6.. 16/35 mod1.5..bairly gets warm so problem solved.. it is a perfect fit with everything in the stock locations..
@@AVERAGEJOERC with the 5687 you can probably go a little bit more aggressive than 1635 but if you're happy with it and happy with the speed then that's awesome!
It’s nice when people look at more than just the quality on the outside of the motors and taking them apart and looking on the inside.
Yeah I want to see what's inside so I figure other people want to as well!
Great Bash and awesome breakdown of the motor and components! Thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching!
Those temperatures are impressive given your setup. Looks good!
Yeah I always like to push things as much as possible which is why I didn't run a fan. I think it'll be good with any reasonable set up.
Cool and it still performs like a beast with that smaller sensored motor i'm thinking about this same Motor and ESC for my X-Maxx and maybe my Outcast 8s EXB V1 like your truck.
Especially with a fan I think it'll be a great setup!
It sure could be a great setup for a lighter truck like an X-Maxx or XRT but i guess it could also work with any of the Arrma 1\5 Trucks. @@DoRC
@cjchannel12 Yeah if it handled my 30 lb 8s outcast without a fan it should do pretty well.
Seems a perfect combination for the upcoming max 6 g2 in my x-maxx...
Yeah I'm looking forward to that!
Does anyone know when that is dropping??
@@AVERAGEJOERC I don't think so. I've seen some information about it but hobbywing does not tease releases
Hey man, love your videos as always I am curious because I am always looking for more content. What are some of your favorite RC TH-camrs?
This may sound really strange but I don't really watch a lot of RC TH-cam. I do like Jason perrin Aussie RC playground and there are a couple of other small channels that I watch. I go back and watch old ultimate RC videos from time to time too :-)
I'm putting this setup in my 1/10 Kraton. It's probably gonna take off and fly, haha.
What motor mount are you going to use?
Great video bud arrmaoutcast exb 8s roller are the best looking strong truck 😊😊
Yeah they're pretty fun. Honestly I think I like my X-Max better but it might just be what I'm used to more. I've got a lot more run time on the X-Max platform than I do on the 8S outcast platform.
@DoRC yeah true but the new arrma outcast 2023 is not much different than from the old one I think it's just the body shell upgrade maybe the motor setup. But for the money I will stick with the one l have now which came out last year. Its still a alsome truck. Plenty of power bud on 8s for me. My setup I'm running is 39/39 the esc max set on 2 not 5 I think it be to crazy fast 😜😳
@@Moggmodels23 Yeah the new one is just the old roller with electronics and slightly updated tires.
@DoRC then that means it's totally waste off money in my shores do you think 🤔
Really depends. If you already have the old e x b roller then yeah I wouldn't recommend getting the new one. If you can get the cheap roller that was on sale a while back that would also be a better deal even with putting your own electronics in but barring that there really aren't a lot of options other than the new one so if that's what you want that's probably what you're going to have to get.
So do you think the 1250 with max5 g2 has more power over the 1100 with max 5 my 1100 rips in my xrt and xmaxx looking for new system for kraton 8s
Yes. The ESC is quite a bit more powerful and the motors are more efficient.
Do you think this would work well in an XRT with the new Max5 G2??
Yeah I think that would be a good combo. The truck that I recorded this in weighs almost 30 lb dry which is a lot heavier than an XRT. I was fairly conservatively geared because I wanted to run it on 10S but especially with a cooling fan I think you could push this motor pretty hard with the lighter XRT.
Thanks a bunch for posting this. Building a New XRT Slider. First Electric RC. Had Nitro & Gas since the 70's. Ive been trying to decide between the 5690 & 56118 (1100kv) to pair with the MAX5. This is another video steering me to the 5690. Although this being my 1st. Electric, I have no idea if the 56118 would be a better choice. Any info on how the 56118 would differ from the 5690 performance wise ? I'll be running the M2C Motor Mount, 1:5 Scale wheels & tires.
The 56118 will be more powerful but it'll also be heavier and more prone to flexing the motor mount while bashing. I've been running the 5687 in my very heavy X-Max for quite some time now and have never felt the need for more power. Personally unless you're wanting to do speed runs the 5690 should be all the power you need.
@@DoRC Thanks for the info ! I just wasn't sure which one was less prone to overheating. Being my 1st. electric, wasn't sure what ratio to go with as I'm seeing people using all kinds of different ratios. Stock speeds or slightly more is where I'll want it. 25/30 with 1.5 seems to be a common gear selection.
@ImAcoastpedder The larger the motor the more power it has so the less likely it'll be to overheat. The sacrifice you make is more weight and more chance of it flexing the mound or possibly breaking something.
If you're going to go 1250 KV I would recommend starting at maybe 22. I run 21 on my 1100 KV and it feels pretty good for general bashing. 25 might be a bit aggressive.
Love your videos so much dude how hard is a noob to solder ?
It's not terribly difficult as long as you get good equipment. A lot of people make the mistake of buying cheap equipment and that's going to make life very difficult.
Pick up a Hakko FX888D with a genuine hakko wide chisel tip some kester 63/37 lead core 0.030 diameter solder, watch some videos on soldering connectors, do some practicing and you'll be fine.
I know that the equipment recommended is a bit of an investment but the solder lasts a long time and the iron is something you can have for the rest of your life. It's definitely a good skill to have!
Could you do speed runs occasionally and see where the motor stacks up ?
I used to do speed runs but I don't really have a good place to do them and it's not really my thing but I definitely could do them again. The problem is that top speed is such a subjective thing. Depends on your batteries your gearing temperature tires surface driver skill the phase of the moon etc so getting reliably comparable results is kind of difficult.
Nice! What pinion and spur was u running?
Hot racing mod 1.5 spur and a beat-up WFO mod 1.5 pinion that has since let me down and destroyed my 4990 motor.
Would this fit the Kagama roller?
I don't think so. I think it would hit the chassis. It's way to much for the kagama anyway.
Would you recommend it in the xmaxx?
Definitely. The 5687 has been excellent in my very heavy X-Maxx. I think this is more efficient and probably more powerful.
What’s the max speed on grass? I want to get the fastest motor for my xrt
If you want the fastest possible setup you want to put the biggest possible motor you can in there. I think the max4 combo will technically fit with certain motor mounts. That 112S will give you the most power. If you want to go a little more reasonable get the 56118 motor as it's larger than this one.
Hey there I seen you were using SMC batteries in this video what do you think of them and their quality
I really like them. I think they're the best bang for the buck and they come from a US-based company that stands by their products.
@@DoRC that’s good to hear because I already bought 4 4S 9500 150c one more question please I am running a hobby wing max five G2 with the 1100 KV motor censored in an XRT. Do you think a 25 35 gear ratio is too high?
@uuldriks1 2535 is a little aggressive for $1,100 KV but it's a pretty powerful motor and ESC so you'll probably be okay
How do you think this setup compares to the new RTR 1100 KV setups in the new 8S rigs?
If your talking about the new exb kraton/outcast 8s? The motor included in the rtr is a rebranded hobbywing 5687 1100kv.
@@abemack I didn’t know that, I thought it was just some new Spektrum stuff. Thanks bud.
All of the Spektrum ESC's and motors are made by hobbywing. The combo that's in there now is basically a max6 1100 KV combo
@@DoRC Why do people not like the Spektrum stuff, if it’s just rebranded Hobbywing? I see many people “upgrade” from Spektrum to Hobbywing or Castle.
@@i4nic256 I would say there's three parts to it. The first one is at the 150 amp Spectrum ESC does have a higher failure rate than you would expect. The second one and the third one are kind of related. People like to upgrade stuff because upgrading is fun and pretty much anything included in an RTR is going to get put down because it helps people justify making those upgrades :-) In general the spectrum electronics are pretty good though.
Nice video❤
Can you tell me where did you buy the ramp...or if you made it yourself the dimensions?
Which one?
Both please if its easy for you..
@@gerasischristos8750 the smaller one is a pnw RC madness ramp kit. Highly recommend it. It's been through hell and back and is still doing well.
The larger one is when I made myself. It's about 4 ft wide 4 ft long and a 2 and 1/2 ft tall.
@@DoRC Thank you very much!
I have max5 g2 and thinking between 1100KV vs 1250KV! Have gear 25/35.. what do You think, what I suppose to do ?
I'd go for the 1250. The Max 5 G2 doesn't really seem to like running in sensorless mode so the 1250 is probably more appropriate. 2535 might be a bit aggressive for that KV. I'm running 2235 on my 1100 KV motor and that feels just about right. It really depends on your bashing style and terrain though.
Thank You for answer! Then what do You think...which gearing I suppose to buy? Or check first 25/35 temp after running ?
@@DoRC
@kakle1988 since you already have the 2535 go ahead and give it a try. Just keep an eye on temps.
Which temp is dangerous ? Check just engine or esc also ?
@@DoRC
@@kakle1988 would be best to keep an eye on both. I personally like to keep under 180f or so but I think the overheat cut off is 205 f. Both the ESC and the 1250 KV motor have internal temperature sensors so they should prevent themselves from getting damaged but it's still best to keep an eye on it
Kenny how much does a fan help a motor stay cool ?
A fan makes a huge difference. Any amount of air movement really helps to draw heat away.
@@DoRCperfect answer
@@romeoraduu thanks:)
I need can take motor 14s ..what is it ? 14s or 16
This particular motor is only rated to 8s.
@@DoRC I mean, is there . a motor that can handle 14s ??
@Atris_965 Not that hobby wing sells. Their 70125 motor Will do 12S. I'm sure there are 14s capable motors out there but I'm not really familiar with running that high cell count. Maybe contact TP motor and see if they can help you out.
@@DoRC ok pro 🫡🤍
@Atris_965 Thanks for watching!
That motor looks tiny in there. Pretty impressive performance though.
For sure. It did better than I thought it would!
How did that king val motor do??
The motor rocks but the ESC eally didn't like it. The G2 Max 5 does not seem to get along well with sensorless motors. Even the 1250 KV motor starts up poorly when you disconnect the sensor cable.
If i ran the Amazon king val 56mm do u think the max 6 will do it??..
@@AVERAGEJOERC in What vehicle?
In the xmaxx
Same dude with the overweight xmaxx i was cementing earlier as well.. sorry about that
Seems kind of weak versus an 1100kv and a Max5G2 I have on both an XRT and an Outcast EXB.
It's probably just down to weight and gearing. My outcast weighs like 33 lb with batteries and it's a lot of weight for that motor. I put it in that one because I wanted to test it to its limit.
@@DoRC If you want to test the limit, let ThunderRc play with it. He can break anything.
I see lots of people have cogging issues with bigger G2 systems.
I had serious hesitation issues with the sensorless motor I tried first and this set up really didn't like 10S but on 8S it seems fine.
I have an over weight xmaxx.. im running a max 6 and the stock motor.. i modified the end bell of the motor and got a cheap aftermarket motor mount so i can run mod 1.5 gear.. 16/35 to be exact.. it heats up super fast.. i think my kvs are to high.. any suggestions? Ineed a cheap option.. ive already blown way to much money 😂
If your x-max is heavy other than gearing extremely conservatively there's really no way out other than upgrading the power system. 1635 is quite a bit more aggressive than stock gearing which would be more like 1235. You can try going to that and see if that helps. GPM makes a 12 tooth pinion with a 5 mm bore in mod 1.5.
Ultimately though if your truck is heavy the stock Motor is going to struggle no matter what you do. It's sufficient for a stock truck but that's about it.
20-25 or 25-35
@geraldchilders2625 That's an extremely aggressive gearing for the stock motor.
@@DoRC thats what i was thinking.. but i have an update.. i put a spectrum 5687 1100kv.. i still have the max 6.. 16/35 mod1.5..bairly gets warm so problem solved.. it is a perfect fit with everything in the stock locations..
@@AVERAGEJOERC with the 5687 you can probably go a little bit more aggressive than 1635 but if you're happy with it and happy with the speed then that's awesome!
Nice motor, thanks for doing stupid stuff with your RC so I don't have too! :D
You're welcome!