Why Grant wasn't in Netflix castlevania (And why it was stupid to exclude him)

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  • @Bullboy_Adventures
    @Bullboy_Adventures  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The fact that this cringe, low effort video got over 3,000 views really gives me confidence in the future of my channel. Of the many changes, ill remake this video with much more effort soon.

  • @UmisTsukishiro00
    @UmisTsukishiro00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I always looked forward to Grant, and the idea that he was some nutter calling himself the "Pirate of the Roads" just made me want him more! He could have been a great foil to Trevor, his presence could have caused an imagined platonic triangle where Alucard assumed he was being replaced, and I thought it would be great if his greatest strength was in inventing and engineering. Give Grant a self-modified crossbow and a high perch, you get the monster hunters' missing marksman.
    Now, with how messy and contradictory the post-Dracula seasons are, I don't think the show deserved him.

    • @UmisTsukishiro00
      @UmisTsukishiro00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Darryl Grimes I've never heard of "ghost pirate" Grant. In the game, Trevor meets him after he's been turned into a monster, he changes back after a fight and they join forces. Perhaps that's what your info is based on?
      Personally, I would love it if the fact Grant is named after the royal family of Danesti is taken advantage of, and he's secretly heir to the throne of Wallachia.

    • @thetraveller4839
      @thetraveller4839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UmisTsukishiro00 This is why Warren's an imbecile. Grant's story had great potential that would've worked. But the writer was high on his own ego and held contempt for the lore and those who respect it.

    • @mushra50
      @mushra50 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're not the only one all those eight characters in the show that looked like him and not one of them was him

  • @juanguerrero2821
    @juanguerrero2821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Finally, another fellow Grant fan. Grant is my favorite Castlevania character because of how much there is to him. Warren Ellis is an idiot who took pride in the fact he never played the games, nor did he ever bother to. You mention the love triangle from Judgement, the thing is I remember they tried to do a love triangle in season 2 for like one episode, then they immediately backed out on it. It's been a long time since I saw it, so maybe I misremember.
    What boggles my mind is how they even kept this scumbag as a writer even after Koji Igarashi rejected his scripts not 2, not 5, but EIGHT times. Eight times, you'd think people would get the idea that this guy maybe wasn't the best person for the job. As a whole, Ellis was is just a horrible person, the reason that Hector keeps having bad things happen to him is because he disliked the voice actor's ability to sound heroic.
    Also, in Dawn of Sorrow Hammer would've been Grant's stand in for Julius mode, but he was cut from the final game. Not even the Grant stand in has it good. Even though he was the only character with an actual connection to Soma, besides Mina. At least he appeared in the sequel novel.
    What is even the point of alluding to Grant, they should just not even mention him if they are just going to insult him.

    • @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
      @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow he hated Hector solely because his voice actor sounded heroic?

    • @juanguerrero2821
      @juanguerrero2821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 Yeah, he purposely wrote Hector into miserable conditions so that the voice actor would have to voice those lines.

    • @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
      @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juanguerrero2821 Is there a source explaining his reasoning for this or is this just from the show itself? (Which in itself is self explanatory because he really is a complete wimp.)

    • @juanguerrero2821
      @juanguerrero2821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 Yes, he outright stated it in an interview, or hinted strongly. I'll try and look it up, shouldn't be too hard to find.
      Ellis pretty much admits to several bad part of the show being his doing in several interviews. Grant, the "politics", what happens to Alucart, writing season 2 in a stupidly short amount of time. Guy is overall a real hack and a scumbag.

    • @MrSilentProtagonist
      @MrSilentProtagonist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@juanguerrero2821 He liked how sounded while in pain.

  • @BulletBillSoilder
    @BulletBillSoilder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Meanwhile Death is also currently experiencing the shaft.

    • @phoenixdouchebag904
      @phoenixdouchebag904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      THAT is the reason why i found Netflixvania to be a fucking travesty. At least with Grant Danasty , there was an argument that he was downplayed in some games (Pachislot games never featured him in a major role, he didn't had an analogue in Julius in Dawn of Sorrow althogh Hammer was supposed to be, he is not present in the Lords of Shadow timeline aside from a minor mention) as much as i like him there was precedent for him to be downplayed, if not excluded (even if i do not like the idea)
      but the Grim Reaper? That guy IS one of Castlevania's major rouge's gallery, he is Dracula's right hand man, and to exclude him is inexcusable. It's already bad enough that many Castlevania staples like the Mummy, Frankenstein's Monster (i guess poor Ellis didn't want to show any negative consecuences regarding science, no matter if it they are fictional or real, because "SCIENCE GOOD RELIGION BAD", or i mean to say CHRIST BAD because i severly doubt this fat jackass would even have the guts to cririze religions like Islam) and many enemies such as Axe Armors and Medusa are missing, but to exclude who is basically the penultimate enemy before Dracula himself is just an example of Warren and crew co-opting the franchise to do whatever they like with it, and the fact that thousands of viewers are okay with this and praising the franchise is why i simply left the Castlevania fandom, it's disgusting really.
      I would rather have a hundred more pachinko CV games by Konami to ever see anotehr episode of this fucking shitshow, because at least with those people are smart enough to see the bullshit, not so much with this hot garbage.

    • @phoenixdouchebag904
      @phoenixdouchebag904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Huh, looks like they FINALLY added him as the one who wants to resurrect Dracula. Good plot point, but its too late for me to care about this show now.

    • @pauljohnong9012
      @pauljohnong9012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@phoenixdouchebag904 LMAO

    • @kanoy7817
      @kanoy7817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@phoenixdouchebag904 L

    • @UmisTsukishiro00
      @UmisTsukishiro00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The version of Death that finally appeared still got the shaft. The crude jokes clashed with his spookiness, his evil plot was stupid, it should have taken more than just Trevor to stop him, and most importantly, he should not have been killed. For a show that runs on looking awesome, the finale was underwhelming.

  • @GnosisZX
    @GnosisZX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Grant was important as he was the one who healed minds and hearts if the people of wallachia even aeon in judgement flat states this and his tale will be told for eternity

  • @thetraveller4839
    @thetraveller4839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looking back, it's probably for the best they left him out, given that egotistical writer's blatant disdain for the character. He would've been butchered like Trevor, Alucard and all the others.

  • @Santouryu3
    @Santouryu3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No Grant = No Krillin

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True. There wouldn't be dragon ball or dragon ball z without krillin. Goku would've never become super saiyan

  • @mario19885
    @mario19885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This writer doesn’t know shit about Grant DaNasty because he’s definitely the real reason why he should always be in Castlevania. Here are those reason why Asshole Ellis didn’t know what differences there are on Grant to the other three protagonists (Trevor, Sypha, Alucard).
    1. Grant DaNasty can climb walls which everybody knows, but he can also control his jump too unlike the other three main characters in Castlevania III.
    2. He can throw his knives as a projectile attack in the Japanese version, but of course he jabs with his knife in the North American version, still a good character.
    3. He would been included in the show after Trevor Belmont encounters Sypha and before taking on Alucard, even though the jackass writer never wanted to include him. So it’s a real shame that the show is never likely Castlevania.

    • @thetraveller4839
      @thetraveller4839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Due to his last name name, Grant's backstory as the lost prince of Wallachia would've worked well as it also ties into Trevor looking to restore his family name to its former glory.
      But like you said, the writer was a contemptuous piece of work.

  • @maskedblanks7774
    @maskedblanks7774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    What I find boggling is that Grant is one of the easiest characters to implement in the show. He has a very strong goal, motivation, and reason to be there - the guy is damn brave for trying to counter Dracula with the rebels (a nod to the Dinesti family who were rivals to Draculesti). Everyone but him is wiped out, and his level and theme, the Clock Tower, is very iconic in Castlevania. Plus, also as you said, the whole love triangle can work between Trevor, Sypha, and Grant which was definitely one of the better stories in Judgement.
    As for personality, his Judgement incarnation was brimming with it - just have him act like that: snarky, flippant, and jovial, but also very serious when push comes to shove. And there are a lot of chances to be highly creative with the wall-climbing and agile knife nut capabilities. They could have free reign with his design, too. I saw someone combine both his original and Judgement design, and there's a good number of fan designs that match Ayami Kojima's style. We could've easily had Grant and the whole original cast *finally* together but no. Instead, he gets the shaft *again* because of utter dumb crap from what I see as a non-fan.

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You and I aren't even professional writers, and we're showing how easy it is to write grant far better than warren ellis could. "The pirate of the roads" what a joke.

    • @maskedblanks7774
      @maskedblanks7774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Bullboy_Adventures The whole pirate remark from this "professional" writer also boggles me because that association with Grant is a purely Western thing that was mistranslated from the Japanese version. The original Japanese version listed Grant as a rebel, noble thief, and an acrobat, which makes this even more astounding how they could've missed this (though it does prove they're non-fans). Like, it's even on the Castlevania wiki on Grant's profile!

    • @boombox2ikik239
      @boombox2ikik239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@maskedblanks7774 A whole lot of it has to do with not just Warren Ellis’s bias but also the fact that he’s never played any of the games.

    • @phoenixdouchebag904
      @phoenixdouchebag904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@boombox2ikik239 The fact that Warren showed no interest in this franchise should have been a clear red flag, but people are stupid and let him do whatever they wanted, and we are let with this show instead.
      Anyone who defends or likes this show will have no sympathy from me when something they enjoy gets destroyed.

    • @thetraveller4839
      @thetraveller4839 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@phoenixdouchebag904 Agreed.
      I look forward to seeing how they will butcher Richter in the sequel. People are too optimistic on Nocturne and actually need a reality check.

  • @SympatheticStrawmanVA
    @SympatheticStrawmanVA ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And yet the show included a bunch of other characters that did... Nothing.

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup. Also, oh God, people are still watching my cringe video. I REALLY need to remake it

  • @johnolmos8670
    @johnolmos8670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The Castlevania series is kind of a mess. The time setting is the 1400s but people talk like they do nowadays. I thought that it would be like the Castlevania game with someone slowly climbing Dracula’s castle

    • @bahrahfahofficial1158
      @bahrahfahofficial1158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Castlevania series is far from a mess. In fact, as a fan of the franchise myself, it's a true blue passion project done right. Other fans, I've noticed, want this direct-to-screen carbon copy of the game and how it plays out and I'm thinking... no. Screw that. I love the creative liberties they took with the show. It feels like its own thing-- and it is.
      The show is just meant to be its own thing, not a direct adaptation and I am 1000% happy wth it because good lord is this show ever a love letter to Castlevania fans.

    • @johnolmos8670
      @johnolmos8670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bahrahfahofficial1158 I’m a life long first day Castlevania fan and I can’t disagree with you more. I would have grately enjoyed my version more. There was just too much dumb stuff added in. Sorry man I won’t budge on that

    • @johnolmos8670
      @johnolmos8670 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bahrahfahofficial1158 like bro how are you going to have a Castlevania show and not have all the music in the show from the game? I appreciated Bloody Tears but there is SO much more.

    • @chaplainnormie
      @chaplainnormie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was also thinking the same thing. Like what is this, Shrek?

    • @thetraveller4839
      @thetraveller4839 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where the dialogue is concerned, The Curse Of Darkness and Lament Of Innocence video games gives you an idea of how they spoke back then. It's not perfect, mind you, but you can see what they were going for.
      Had anyone actually bothered to look into the lore, it's a lot better and richer than what this show portrayed. The writer couldn't be bothered to familiarise himself with the lore beyond skimming wikipedia, but the showrunner is also to blame as he himself had a shallow understanding of what Castlevania is all about.
      This Netflix parody was more interested in trying to be Game Of Thrones, only with low effort and hackneyed writing by people who do not have the chops.

  • @soulslvr9562
    @soulslvr9562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I for one think that Greta was their way of giving us Grant.... But my only evidence to this is that their names are similar and that they are in the same place..... Other than that I don't think they have much in common. Plus the thing with the love triangle was kinda hinted at with Alucard Sypha and Trevor so doing so again would be repeating territory for no real reason.... Though hopefully with the confirmed spin-offs we are getting and the reference to Grant's design from Judgement being seen in Season 4 hopefully our boi gets to be seen soon.....
    i hope

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also hear Warren ellis will have no more involvement in castlevania after the latest season, so MAYBE grant can come out this time.

    • @soulslvr9562
      @soulslvr9562 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bullboy_Adventures yea but the latest season was confirmed to be the last season soooo

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@soulslvr9562 guess grants only chance is the spin offs

  • @pyrothefriendlyarsonist9195
    @pyrothefriendlyarsonist9195 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When will they show my boy Grant

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Recently, head writer Warren Ellis resigned due to sexual harassment allegations, but unfortunately, he still finished the next upcoming season before he left, (that bastard) at this point, the only way grant can come out is if in the future, the show gets a new season with a new writer. Preferably, one who doesnt hate grant for stupid reasons. In other words, small glimmer of hope at the end of the tunnel.

    • @PharoahsKingdom
      @PharoahsKingdom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bullboy_Adventures I didn't even know about this. 60 women? SMH

    • @Gamers2Bros
      @Gamers2Bros 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bullboy_Adventures hopefully if there's a new writer he or she redcons season 3 and some of 2,1.

    • @Gamers2Bros
      @Gamers2Bros 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PharoahsKingdom also the new writer should be i don't know the original writers of the games.

    • @juanguerrero2821
      @juanguerrero2821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We should be thankful he didn't appear, god knows what would have happened to him.

  • @bahrahfahofficial1158
    @bahrahfahofficial1158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The creators of this show clearly love the project and the franchise. It's obvious that they're huge fans because this show is a goddamn love letter to us fans and to that, I say that there has to be a good reason that they didn't. Budget. Writing. I don't know. The show focused on a lot of things and seemed to be planned from the start.
    I'm okay that Grant wasn't there. As easy as it would have been to implement him, I'm okay that they didn't because the way the show played out was beautiful. I'd rather have a well-done show than another character added for whatever reasons.
    Having finished S4, it's a small loss. I'm already over it.

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Based on what I gathered, it seems that grant wasn't added simply because the head writer, Warren ellis, didn't like him. I just thought it was so ridiculous

    • @thetraveller4839
      @thetraveller4839 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some of the animators I know are fans, but not everyone who calls themselves fans are so.
      Adi Shankar can call himself a fan all he likes, but he has very little understanding of Castlevania is, aside from maybe Symphony Of The Night, like most. Pitching the script of a writer, who is also a hardcore atheist, to Netflix of all companies was a double dip for disaster. Koji Igarashi himself scrapped this project years ago for a very good reason.
      This show was not planned out as many believe. In fact, Warren himself had no idea where to take the story next. Hence writing season 3 in a mad rapture of power as he said himself.
      Anyone that looked into the lore of Castlevania will know that Castlevania 3: Dracula's Curse had a sequel. Instead of following up with that, the writer went on an ego trip, wrote his own story and even butchered the male heroes to various degrees. Trevor is reduced to a dim-witted sidekick to Mary Sue Sypha. Alucard's storyline was pointless as a whole. Hector was more of an emasculated doormat and a plot device to make the villains more threatening.
      Without getting long-winded, cutting Grant was utterly petty on Ellis' part and his excuse made him look even worse, but that's just one of his many blunders and why this show failed as a Castlevania adaptation.

  • @mushra50
    @mushra50 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    List breakdown the facts about the characters in there that resembled him the most that most people thought was Grant
    1. The priests who had a thieves knife who hunched his back when he fought Trevor
    2. The thief in the desert with the cut on his face
    3. The man who wanted to buy The Munsters teeth that Trevor brought into town
    4. The captain who doesn't say his name
    5. The talking night creature
    6. That pirate on the captain's ship with the do-rag who the camera was focused on who turned his head and looked back at the night creatures
    7. That crazy little girl who was helping Trevor in syphe in season 4
    8. The dead guy on the horse who brought the letter to from the village of danasty

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Luckily, grant is basically played by a woman named Greta. Despite what the creep Warren ellis says, there's too many similarites for this to just be a coincidence

    • @mushra50
      @mushra50 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Bullboy_Adventureshey bro I'm not trying to be mean and judge the creators and directors for their decision on gender swapping in race swapping Grant but that just came out of nowhere man and it kind of made me angry if I was the director I would have at least made him Trevor Belmont's best friend and then make him leave in the second season because let's just be real all this gender swapping is really unnecessary uncalled for an annoying

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mushra50 oh, I called him a creep cause he was accused of grooming. I plan on making a new video about Warren ellis soon. It was very clear he simply didn't like grant, so Greta was in his place. But then he said she WASN'T the female version of grant despite the similarites. If I could sum up Warren ellis in one word, I'd say he's a MESS.

    • @mushra50
      @mushra50 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Bullboy_Adventures I already heard about the allegations against Warren Ellis that he was being creepy toward young women but I honestly like to pretend Greta was her own character I hate to think she was Grant but I did like that other anime Warren Ellis created called freak Angels it's really cool my favorite character is the beautiful light-skinned woman with the big cornbread biscuits

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mushra50 no doubt Warren ellis has talent, just a shame he had to be a creeper, and try to justify not including grant for bs reasons. He couldn't just man up and say he simply didn't like grant.

  • @jameschatman2171
    @jameschatman2171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done

  • @kongdoo1226
    @kongdoo1226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see this man wants a sausage fest..

  • @charliebaker1427
    @charliebaker1427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly the trio worked better as a group so im fine with them excluding him

  • @thomasfleetwood4727
    @thomasfleetwood4727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who gives a fuck? The show is over. Grant would have offered nothing to the story they're telling here.

    • @creampop9727
      @creampop9727 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The point is why leave him out in the game he helped just as much as Alucard and sypha did to bring down Dracula what bullshit reason to leave out a main character just because you don't like him that stupid. You respect the source materials not just the one you cherry pick to use.

    • @creampop9727
      @creampop9727 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The show is still good