Im glad to see that the manga version of Goku knows better than to play around with dangerous villains, but this isnt the first time he did this. He told Gohan to kill Cell before he regenerated.
@@jackripper4437 i knlw he was but he still should of Killed him quickly his friends and companies told him it was unwise to Let Morro live and have Jaco take him back to prison
They didnt buff or nerf anybody, Beside zamasu splitting into more people and goku black becoming immortal. This fight literally went the same way like the anime, just was shrunken down. Vegtio even whoops ass more ( like he should ).
1:43 Desperate times call for "Vegeta's Technique" 2:21 Yes, yes he would. He wanted to fight Vegeta one-on-one and for Freeza he thought he could change. Black killed Bulma, he dies
Z Goku would've 100% would've done that. Give up his turn to end off the enemy. Hell thats what he was telling Gohan to do in the Cell Games. To finish off Cell before he got too desperate.
@@1BuFo tbf he wasn't expecting Gohan to lose control like he did. He was fully expecting him to finish him off while he could, with his whole I don't want to see anyone get hurt anymore morals
There’s two things that I still can’t wrap my head around with this arc and the timeline shenanigans. 1) if the Zamasu that took Goku’s body is from the main timeline but jumped over to Trunks timeline, how is Goku still around unless the body Zamasu stole is from another unseen timeline… and also if Zeno is the lord of everything then wouldn’t that like make him omnipotent to where there’s only one version of him regardless of timeline. It would’ve made more sense that when Goku used the button, the same Zeno he knew popped up there since Zeno is over everything. I love this arc especially in the manga but man does the timeline stuff hurt my brain 😂
@@CarsawMan Immortal Zamasu is from the Future Timeline. Goku Black is from the Main Timeline but 1 year after the Universe 6 tournament. That was changed when Beerus killed the Main Timeline Zamasu, but the Time Ring allowed Black to be unaffected by the change Beerus caused in the Main Timeline.
The real intriguing thing about Goku is the other only times he was shown knowing a character needed to die was Cell and Buu with him still making sure he got a chance to fight cell first since he knew he couldn't win and him regrettably killing kid buu. You could argue he had no issue killing Raditz but Raditz was so much stronger there wasn't away around it. Nappa is a great example of what would have likely been the outcome for Raditz if Goku was stronger, he may have aimed to immobilize him or just disable him like Nappa (still cant believe he paralyzed that man legs like that😂).
He didn't fight Cell just to have a shot, he was first to let Gohan see Cell fighting and also because if he could, he would destroy cell, and he even almost got him With buu...kinda, i mean, he killed him without a second tought, he just wished to him for comeback
@@SonZackSSJ9k is Ssj Goku from the Buu arc as powerful as Ssj Goku from the ToP. No. Is SSB Goku from RoF as powerful as SSB Goku from the Broly movie No.
Good sir allow me to correct you on something, Goku in the Frieza arc was in a situation were he had to choose HIM or FRIEZA, he chose HIM and literally blasted him the second Frieza tried to pull some sh☠️☠️ so it's more accurate to say he FAILED to spare him
It's more like the anime glazed him to compensate for just getting the episodes out while the manga showed the strengths of character of both vegeta and goku, the anime iteration of this arc was mid at best.
Buddy all respect but the anime version of the Zamasu & Tournament of Power Saga are way more interesting. I don't even get how you guys don't think so, those both arcs in the manga looked like the anime version but unfinished and with less interesting moments. Trunks is almost a minor character in the manga, he's far more helpful in the anime and the fights and used techniques are faaaar more dope, the only cool thing in the manga is that Goku Black can become a SS, T.O.P the same, most of the fighters were absolutely useless in the manga, got eliminated freaking offscreen or in mass by one character, while in the anime almost all characters at least had a little spotlight. I love both manga and anime, but these two arcs in the manga are underwhelming af!
@@jlau9268tournament of power yes, The black arc hell no. Its literally one of the best arcs in the entirety of dragon ball to date. Especially after that crap fest anime counter part, where they constantly had goku and vegeta get their ass beat just to finally come back with a plan after retreating 3 TIMES. Also trunks, not given any bullshit sword of hope and " mY fRienDs ArE couNtiNG oN me ". Actually good writing is given to him.
@@demonthesoule The Sword of Hope was like the Spirit Bomb, and that might be corny but at least Trunks is given some importance, in de manga during the fight he could as wel have been Krillin 😖 maybe our taste is different then but i like the anime version way more.
@@jlau9268 the manga have more sence In the scrypt, the anime Is a disaster. Trunks getting that new transformation and that genki dama sword out of nowhere, etc.
Yeah while i like the super anime i do hate how they made ONLY goku a bit dumber like i know the anime was to bring in a new audience but like damn....
I wouldn’t count that as stealing an attack idk what that shit is called imma call it a spear attack it’s not a technique or nun that’s like saying goku copied punching from beerus cuz beerus older he def did copy destruction disc but that spear launch shit it’s just a move that’s been used in other shit
Z Goku would've done that he did it against Cell when stopping the fight allowing Gohan to fight and could've defeated majin buu but he wanted the Earth's remaining fighters to defeat him not wanting the dub and fight himself
Bro says Goku would never kill his opponent in the anime even saying Z Goku ?? So we’re gonna act like he didn’t tell gohan to kill cell multiple times ? Or what about buu that spirit bomb was the series finale but people seem to forget that gokus the one who through the thing an ended buu. And I know people love to hate on it but don’t let me get started on the timing Goku was on in GT he was dropping bodies left and right. People think gokus is dumb for sparing his enemies Goku knows when to end his enemies in a lot of cases.
Manga Black was much stronger in his anime self because his Rosé is basically SSB not SSJ1, Goku’s rage boost, Vegeta’s training, the sickle and scythe can’t make anime Black stronger than his manga counterpart
I want you to know the anime goku black was cutting dimensions and shit and folded both goku and vegeta manga black got his ass whooped but it makes more sense and power scaling is better in the manga
Sorry but the manga was T R A S H to me. Black wasn’t a threat at all and the cool little Fused Zamasu moments weren’t worth the whole arc. The anime was 100% better with this. Probably the Tournament of Power too because Rossi dodging Jiren at all is awful. Gohan defeating Kefla would’ve been great for him but defeating Dyspo wasn’t a bad feat either.
This wouldve never happened if bro used a big bang attack
He should of used that attack
To think he has such a grandiose name for such an ordinary ki blast
Possibly would have happened with a galick gun, and DEFINITELY would have happened with a final flash.
@@bobandmrmecaleb5873final flash never works bro
@@Akaksbnsns That's just cause writers be on some bullshit.
Bro, we all know that the final flash has an 100% survival rate and this just proves it even more
I mean to be fair the fina flash didn’t even hit it was dodged so……
@@beegdawgI mean in the TOP he got people out with both the Final Flash and Final Explosion/Atonement. So it worked in a way.
Unless you count xenoverse
@@bababhu5934 xenoverse? Well that’s…..
@@StardustBullets yet they didnt die which again proves that it has a 100% survival rate
Im glad to see that the manga version of Goku knows better than to play around with dangerous villains, but this isnt the first time he did this. He told Gohan to kill Cell before he regenerated.
He didn't kill Morro Quickly.... 😂
@@StevenJones851 moro was literally on the verge of death like frieza after goku went ssj, there was no way for goku to predict what happened next.
@@jackripper4437 i knlw he was but he still should of Killed him quickly his friends and companies told him it was unwise to Let Morro live and have Jaco take him back to prison
@@jackripper4437Goku still shouldn't have trusted him enough to give him a senzu bean
@@TortolsarecoolIt was his way to know if forgiving him was worth it.
In the manga goku black is more sadistical
While zamasu,
Cooks better than his anime version
they can't miss out on that merchandise even if it means destroying a good story
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Corrupted Zamasu made more sense, like if a mortal and an immortal fuse bodies, they shouldn’t remain immortal.
The anime Zamasu Saga was pretty good.
@@frodotronnik_ yeah but It was more badass when they defused, fused again and multiplied
@@frodotronnik_honestly I can't agree or disagree but hey, for me both corrupted and merged work
It was all over, when he pulled final flash... shit never worked in the end
Vegeta also stole hellzone grenade in the buu saga
@@Obi482 he used hellzone grenade in the cell saga? When exactly did vegeta use hellzone grenade in the cell saga?
@@severia24 idk why I didn’t see vegeta lmao my b
@@Obi482 nw mb for being hostile, so used to arguing over the smallest thing
@@severia24 all good my guy
He did??
they buffed heavily goku black in the anime
they nerf black remember super anime came before manga
@@YourLovelyGuy9442 oh shit really? never knew that
They didnt buff or nerf anybody, Beside zamasu splitting into more people and goku black becoming immortal. This fight literally went the same way like the anime, just was shrunken down. Vegtio even whoops ass more ( like he should ).
@@YourLovelyGuy9442they accurately scaled Goku black in manga you mean
@@yeetnessthegreater1298he means they made goku black lame
2:25 spare? Mf got his ass handed to him against vegeta.
Still is technically the reason he lived after their fight lol
Yes, spare.
If Goku didn't tell Krillin to let him go, Vegeta would've been at the Vegeta Family Reunion in hell.
Bro forgot Goku tellimg Gohan to finish off cell
Dont forget he did the same thing for gohan to finish super buu since he in his piccolo absotion
Yeah z goku would
Z goku > Super manga goku > super anime goku
yeah right after giving cell a senzu bean 💀
@@Kebab0960 tbf its not like cell in near death exprience he basically tired
he still gave cell, the one trying to kill them all, a senzu bean, only to then force gohan to fight him
1:48 ''Hey thats Vegeta's technique!''
1:43
Desperate times call for "Vegeta's Technique"
2:21
Yes, yes he would. He wanted to fight Vegeta one-on-one and for Freeza he thought he could change. Black killed Bulma, he dies
Z Goku would've 100% would've done that. Give up his turn to end off the enemy. Hell thats what he was telling Gohan to do in the Cell Games. To finish off Cell before he got too desperate.
Only after Gohan lost control lol
@@1BuFo tbf he wasn't expecting Gohan to lose control like he did. He was fully expecting him to finish him off while he could, with his whole I don't want to see anyone get hurt anymore morals
@@EclipseEuclidwell of course he wants him to finish off Cell because he CANT finish off Cell. Goku knew he stood no chance against Cell.
These edits got me crying yo I’m watching all these videos rn bruh😭😭
Glad u like it
*Lore accurate vegeta*
1:41 Goku Black got so many bro went SSJ2 Full Power
SSJ2 Goku Black REALLY thought he could activate plot armour
2:22 yep, end of Z goku was change or die
There’s two things that I still can’t wrap my head around with this arc and the timeline shenanigans. 1) if the Zamasu that took Goku’s body is from the main timeline but jumped over to Trunks timeline, how is Goku still around unless the body Zamasu stole is from another unseen timeline… and also if Zeno is the lord of everything then wouldn’t that like make him omnipotent to where there’s only one version of him regardless of timeline. It would’ve made more sense that when Goku used the button, the same Zeno he knew popped up there since Zeno is over everything. I love this arc especially in the manga but man does the timeline stuff hurt my brain 😂
Goku black is from an alternate version of the main timeline
Beerus said even the Gods dont dare to tamper with Time and Space, probably due to shit like this.
@@DBAarons I thought the Zamasu that was black, was from the main timeline's future?
@@CarsawMan Immortal Zamasu is from the Future Timeline.
Goku Black is from the Main Timeline but 1 year after the Universe 6 tournament. That was changed when Beerus killed the Main Timeline Zamasu, but the Time Ring allowed Black to be unaffected by the change Beerus caused in the Main Timeline.
LOL nice Dozing Sands Secret music at the end
Glad u noticed 😅
@@DBAarons I love the Mario & Luigi games and as soon as I heard the song I was like I know that soundtrack and the game where that came from
The real intriguing thing about Goku is the other only times he was shown knowing a character needed to die was Cell and Buu with him still making sure he got a chance to fight cell first since he knew he couldn't win and him regrettably killing kid buu.
You could argue he had no issue killing Raditz but Raditz was so much stronger there wasn't away around it. Nappa is a great example of what would have likely been the outcome for Raditz if Goku was stronger, he may have aimed to immobilize him or just disable him like Nappa (still cant believe he paralyzed that man legs like that😂).
He didn't fight Cell just to have a shot, he was first to let Gohan see Cell fighting and also because if he could, he would destroy cell, and he even almost got him
With buu...kinda, i mean, he killed him without a second tought, he just wished to him for comeback
3:14 Finally you get respect for Vegeta 👏🥲👍 !
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2:06 Yeah, that spooked me a little, since when he says that in the public eyes, in broad doomsday?
This is what people should watch when they say Manga Goku was never God Level in Base.
There is no God Level forms are multipliers not set levels of power
@@detroitmade6 Sure buddy
@@SonZackSSJ9k is Ssj Goku from the Buu arc as powerful as Ssj Goku from the ToP. No. Is SSB Goku from RoF as powerful as SSB Goku from the Broly movie No.
@@detroitmade6 Wdym? That’s not my logic at all, I’m saying Base Goku post-SSG = SSG Goku (both are Battle of Gods).
i am pretty sure GOKU IN MANGA NEVER ABSORBED GOD KI SO THERE IS NO GOD KI BASE BULLSH WHERE HE CAN ONE SHOT ENTIRE DBZ IN BASE
The god of war music in the background really fits
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I really like your voice you seem really calm ngl
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@@DBAarons Np my guy 🫡
This was real entertaining Aaron, subscribed for sure 😌
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I really enjoyed this, i hope to see more of manga content of super, so it can show just how amazing it is compared to it's anime counter part.
2:21 he did that LITERALLY after sparring Vegeta and Frieza, throughout the rest of the series
2:18 Z Goku would've absolutely said no, he declined many opportunities to fight throughout the entirety of Z
Bro do some with Moro arc ❤
Good sir allow me to correct you on something, Goku in the Frieza arc was in a situation were he had to choose HIM or FRIEZA, he chose HIM and literally blasted him the second Frieza tried to pull some sh☠️☠️ so it's more accurate to say he FAILED to spare him
Subbed bro nicee
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Nah, vegeta needs to stop using final flash. Its survival rate is 500 percent. At this point, the final flash gives the opponent a power up💀
I like the Mario and Luigi dream team music at the end
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You know when you're cooked when you use Vegeta's Technique against Vegeta.
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How are you an exact looking evil counterpart of the protagonist and never fight him like bruh😭
2:21
Z Goku will do it. He shouted at Gohan to finish Cell
Nice video
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2:25 YES
It's more like the anime glazed him to compensate for just getting the episodes out while the manga showed the strengths of character of both vegeta and goku, the anime iteration of this arc was mid at best.
No the manga just undermines goku black heavily. Goku and vegeta are shown better because goku black is more pathetic in the manga
@@preethammuppala9482This what toriyama wanted black to be like
Nah buddy your taste is just bad
This arc was closer to peak than the others
I was thinking that Goku black use ss2 not ss1 because of lightning around his body
Ngl this is what we should’ve seen in the anime ;-;
Buddy all respect but the anime version of the Zamasu & Tournament of Power Saga are way more interesting. I don't even get how you guys don't think so, those both arcs in the manga looked like the anime version but unfinished and with less interesting moments. Trunks is almost a minor character in the manga, he's far more helpful in the anime and the fights and used techniques are faaaar more dope, the only cool thing in the manga is that Goku Black can become a SS, T.O.P the same, most of the fighters were absolutely useless in the manga, got eliminated freaking offscreen or in mass by one character, while in the anime almost all characters at least had a little spotlight. I love both manga and anime, but these two arcs in the manga are underwhelming af!
@@jlau9268tournament of power yes, The black arc hell no. Its literally one of the best arcs in the entirety of dragon ball to date. Especially after that crap fest anime counter part, where they constantly had goku and vegeta get their ass beat just to finally come back with a plan after retreating 3 TIMES. Also trunks, not given any bullshit sword of hope and " mY fRienDs ArE couNtiNG oN me ". Actually good writing is given to him.
@@jlau9268well I respect your opinion about what you think about this fight.
@@demonthesoule The Sword of Hope was like the Spirit Bomb, and that might be corny but at least Trunks is given some importance, in de manga during the fight he could as wel have been Krillin 😖 maybe our taste is different then but i like the anime version way more.
@@jlau9268 the manga have more sence In the scrypt, the anime Is a disaster. Trunks getting that new transformation and that genki dama sword out of nowhere, etc.
Whyd youd show cell beating it?
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Seeing vegeta fail makes me uncontrollably happy 😊
Mf should have used the gamma burst flash instead of the 100% life rate technique
Final flash being one of vegeta’s strongest attacks. Still no dubs with that technique, they hype it so much but it never did anything
Us people are the first 50 subs
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@@DBAarons fine thank you
99% of the time he's disgracing his anime counterpart.
Didn't Vegeta got his get back at Black after training in the chamber?
Man the manga make sense
Yeah while i like the super anime i do hate how they made ONLY goku a bit dumber like i know the anime was to bring in a new audience but like damn....
Anime is overrated and overhyped
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Toyotaro did a better job at power scaling
Blud put my profile in his vid💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I wouldn’t count that as stealing an attack idk what that shit is called imma call it a spear attack it’s not a technique or nun that’s like saying goku copied punching from beerus cuz beerus older he def did copy destruction disc but that spear launch shit it’s just a move that’s been used in other shit
Z Goku would've done that he did it against Cell when stopping the fight allowing Gohan to fight and could've defeated majin buu but he wanted the Earth's remaining fighters to defeat him not wanting the dub and fight himself
Wait Goku told Gohan to finish cell in cell saga
He had his turn.
He didnt even block or parry anything from black in the manga
Oh okease zamasu was a fraud when we understood his stupidity in everything whichw as was after he explained everything
This arc was *significantly* better in the manga
I don't blame goku for not wanting a turn, I see my friend cooking my clone that bad why even bother letting him try the original
Come on bro we all know z goku after vegeta and freeza would say that didn't we all watch the cell saga
Vegeta got blueballed again
vegata getting a W??? crazy
As a vegeta fan bro he gotbdone so dirty
Ikr
Bro says Goku would never kill his opponent in the anime even saying Z Goku ?? So we’re gonna act like he didn’t tell gohan to kill cell multiple times ? Or what about buu that spirit bomb was the series finale but people seem to forget that gokus the one who through the thing an ended buu. And I know people love to hate on it but don’t let me get started on the timing Goku was on in GT he was dropping bodies left and right. People think gokus is dumb for sparing his enemies Goku knows when to end his enemies in a lot of cases.
I don't think Goku has the right to tell Vegeta to spare Black since he killed Bulma.
He did that with frieza after killing his friend (Krillin).
They fumbled Goku black but blessed Fused Zamasu
uh yea Z Goku would say that
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Manga Black was much stronger in his anime self because his Rosé is basically SSB not SSJ1, Goku’s rage boost, Vegeta’s training, the sickle and scythe can’t make anime Black stronger than his manga counterpart
I want you to know the anime goku black was cutting dimensions and shit and folded both goku and vegeta manga black got his ass whooped but it makes more sense and power scaling is better in the manga
@@BmoreRavensfan yea but was only Goku Black in SSJ1 while Rosé was his SSB version in the manga.
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2;05 Goku Black in this fights isn't interesting enough for Goku to want to fight him lol
Ok
Man i never read this shit goddamn (or i just forgot)
Sorry but the manga was T R A S H to me. Black wasn’t a threat at all and the cool little Fused Zamasu moments weren’t worth the whole arc.
The anime was 100% better with this. Probably the Tournament of Power too because Rossi dodging Jiren at all is awful. Gohan defeating Kefla would’ve been great for him but defeating Dyspo wasn’t a bad feat either.
that arc was mid asf lol, black was kinda boring since we got more zamasu, and the vegeto fan service didn't even cut it
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Super sucks
Manga barley saves it
Go watch your cartoon
this one of the reasons y i think the anime is better blsck was never a coward in the anime