BEAT MUSIC Record Release pt. 2, The Los Angeles Improvisations (#3/4)
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- Mark Guiliana-acoustic and electronic drums
Tim Lefebvre-electric bass
Jeff Babko-keyboards
Troy Zeigler-electronics
8/29/2014
Night #2: different night, different perspectives
Blue Whale
Los Angeles, California
Hey if u play one instrument very well , u will know this is greatness.
Oh my god, greatness
3:10
He just laughing me just wondering of his masterpiece.
no question that these musicians are just incredible players. I think all three are some of the best on their instruments in the world. To me though this is three musicians playing for themselves only. I would never listen to this. There's a similar video with Steve Hass on drums that precedes this that I find more interesting because its less jacking off and more groove oriented. It's musical and melodic. Still, not something I would put on for listening pleasure, but as a whole, it was like watching people paint something beautiful. In this video it seems like their excitement is coming from themselves, ideas are applauded because of their level of difficulty. where as in the other video, their excitement is coming from the music that's being created together. Nothing sticks out obnoxiously. Here, the polyrhythmic ideas and the electronic samples take this concept to a place that is uninviting to a listener. It has rough edges and many times is not pleasing to the ear. Besides, it's been done before, fusion musicians meet a DJ. it's difficult to play this way for sure and as I wrote earlier it's a commendable level of technique, but since when is advanced level of difficulty something musical? Miles Davis could never play his instrument to the point these young men can play, he's still better than they ever will be. Great effort, amazing players, but no point really. If this is where live improvisational music is going then it deserves to die. Music used to be an art form something for the masses, something cultural , great songs and melodies. this, is self indulgence from musicians that learned how to play a little too well.
No podría usted estar mas equivocado! A través de la historia la música "para las masas" como usted la llama, alguna vez fue incomprendida! esto no se trata de "tocar para sí mismos", es un lenguaje que avanza y sigue su curso, y (como en toda época musical) tiene su evolución. Es de el oyente el seguir el devenir de ese lenguaje, o quedar "atascado" en lo que para el oído es "normal". Si usted mi amigo, vino buscando música "melódica", entonces su definición de melodía es del siglo XIX... porque esto no podría ser más musical y de naturaleza externa! Simplemente está en el lugar equivocado.
nope
OddMeeter Its thinking like this that stops art in it's tracks. I am not saying this is good or bad. But this is the idiotic pseudodeep talk that gets said about every progression in art, its your way of saying to the world "I really get it, I FEEL music" people do the same shit with speed, they say anyone playing fast is just playing meaningless wide, give me some slow soulful blues" but the fact is while there is plenty of point speed fiddling some people are crafting beautiful, thoughtful stuff and carving out deeper melodies within a runs of 16ths and... people all round the world carve out plenty of slow blues licks that don't really mean anything and are just parroted clichés. You don't like this and thats fine. However, it is worth noting that you are the one focusing on the technical here, also people said exactly what you said here about Miles, harking back to Armstrong or Bolden.
+sarah cross Well said
hey, check out vordhosbn by aphex twin. Drum programming is really good. So, what happens when someone wants to play the craziness of something like aphex twin's vordhosbn on the drum set? You may not be a fan of aphex twin, but he has a huge following and a lot respect. Mark is approaching music with the impossibleness of drum programming into improvisation and he's expressing his ideas expertly. Yeah, they are playing and staying true to themselves... but they are also playing for those who love their creativity and energy. Check out stuff he does with Avishai Cohen, the bassist. It's amazingly tasteful and very "Mark Guiliana" sounding. Also, the rest of the video is just some dub improv, it's not all craziness. There are no rules to music. Jazz is not for squares.