So happy you mentioned the It Bites‘s albums with John Mitchell. Both incredible works. And you‘re right, under a different name everyone would be raving and talking about them. Although it was done with absolute respect for what Francis Dunnery did.
1. Zevious: Passing through the Wall 2. Levin / Torn / White: Levin / Torn / White 3. Sonar (w/David Torn & J. Peter Schwalm): Three Movements 4. Stephan Thelen: Fractal Guitar 5. The Wrong Object: Into the Herd 6. Dwiki Dharmawan: Hari Ketiga 7. Mark Wingfield: Tales from the Dreaming City (maybe not prog?) 8. DFA: 4th 9. Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Of the Last Human Being 10. Alex Machacek: 24 Tales
I discovered Prog through Alan "Fluff" Freeman's Saturday afternoon show. He played And You and I and Child in Time back to back. That was it. Been hooked ever since.
Alarmist - Sequesterer, Hashshashin - Badakhshan, Physics House Band - Mercury Fountain, We Stood Like Kings - USA 1982, Enloom - In the Lantern Cusp, Night Verses - Gallery of Sleep, Raphael Weinroth-Browne - Worlds Within, Onsegen Ensemble - Fear, Darcy James Argue - Infernal Machines, Battles - Mirrored, Consider The Source in general… are a few
Really enjoy the guest appearing a studio; no lag online, great sound quality and I love the banter and people sparking off each other. Enjoying the list, the studio, the format and the banter! Well done Andy and Steve (the new Two Ronnie's....?)
This is fun to check out the half of these I haven’t listened. My own personal top 10 (in case anyone finds it interesting, which you don’t need to, my taste and knowledge is more fully realized in prog metal anyway lol) is: 10. 10,000 Days - Tool 9. Deadwing - Porcupine Tree 8. Gravity - Anekdoten 7. In Absentia - Porcupine Tree 6. Hazards of Love - The Decemberists 5. Fields - Hammers of Misfortune 4. Polygondwanaland - King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard 3. Damnation - Opeth 2. The Death Defying Unicorn - Motorpsycho 1. Hand Cannot Erase - Steven Wilson
The production, the journey it takes you on, it is my most listened to album in the past 3 years. The first few songs set the stage and are strong without breaking the mold too much, then when Black Light Machine hits and for the rest of the album you are flying.
IQ-" Road Of Bones" Steven Wilson- "Hand. Cannot. Erase." Wobbler- " Silence To Somewhere" Big Big Train- "Folklore" Caligonaut- "Magnified as Giants" Logos- "L'enigma Della Vita" Haken- "Fauna" Seven Impale- "Summit" Steven Wilson- "The Raven Refuse To Sing" Moon Safari- "Blomljud'
Great video discussion. I have dipped my toes in with a few of these artists, but many others are almost unknown to me. Keen to check out all those I've missed.
Always thought that the Riverside album Love, Fear and the Time Machine was one of the best modern day Prog albums I’ve heard these past 10 years. Brilliant from start to finish. If this isn’t on the list then I have no taste in music.
@@kenjones6441 I love this genre ever since I discovered King Crimson and YES . Prog never died it has simply become underground. I'm ok with that. Obviously Steve Wilson should get credit , but so many bands have continued to carry the torch. Riverside and Opeth deserve such kudos as does Marillion and IQ. There's so many other bands that are amazing. Thank goodness we have plenty of formats that allow free expression. At the same it is a shame these artists don't have the financial respects.
Fantastic list! Thank you. Some nominations: "Here comes the Man from the Council with a Flamethrower" by A Formal Horse "Dominion" by Zopp "Hoping Against Hope" by Thinking Plague "Grand Opening and Closing" by Sleepytime Gorilla Museum and the entire catalog of probably the only prog soul band, Haitus Kaiyote
Very interesting and agree with 5 of them. But im shocked there's no IQ. Frequency, Road of Bones and Resistance are epic albums. A band that just seems to get better as they get older. And interestingly you have the cover of Road of bones on the front page ?
This was a great top 10 gents- well done! I found it especially useful as I don't generally listen to much prog beyond 1980 to be honest... invaluable info. Well recorded too with perfect sound and vision in your studio Andy- cheers again!
I think The Road of Bones deserves to be on the list, but it is a close call for me as I feel Resistance is better. Frequency will forever be a favourite, (and not just pandering to Andy), as it was my first IQ album. ''The Likes of Us'' is an absolutely brilliant album
Absolutely agree... IQ is one of the greatest prog bands still going. Frequency is superb too.. i was surprised no album in top ten as Andy once played with them as well..
Nice show, gentlemen! So much great contemporary prog albums to choose from! Albums that hit the mark for me too, which came to mind, are 'Pale Communion'. by Opeth, '+4626 - COMFORTZONE' by Beardfish, 'Dark Matter' bij IQ (sorry Andy!) and 'Unfold the Future' by The Flower Kings.
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer that probably sounded a little too erotically snuggly tbh !! 🤣 But you have the best channel on YT. So I guess down the line, the 10 greatest choccy bars must be next , unless I've missed something??!! And obviously the lost lamented Topic is the winner!! 🥲
Andy and Steven great ranking of these important newer progressive rock bands. Andy, I am very impressed that you worked on the spectrum mornings video with David Longdon and Christina Booth. I absolutely love that tune and that presentation and have to hear it every week! I feel so sad that David Longdon has passed. I only learned about big big train a little before he died and now I am a massive fan and try to watch all of their live shows on TH-cam, David, Longdonand rest in peace, you are a massive talent David and you are very very much missed Stephen and Andy I think you omitted- one incredibly talentedbrilliant neo PROG -Rock auteur- and that is Andy Tillison and the Tangent and I am totally in love with the new album’ to follow Polaris ‘song ,,and’the ANACHRONISM’-that just sum up where we are politically and socially today’ we have no passions we have no hopes, WE DON’T HAVE NOTHING THAT’S GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE2’ paraphrasing whatever Andy said there, and I absolutely love’ a place in the queue’ that I was turned on by Andy’s, dear friend and nemesis Scott Lade, and I hope you two guys get to do another progressive rock altercation online ha ha ha all right mates ,great work!!!
I've got back into prog recently after a lengthy hiatus and its programs like this and Sea of Tranquillity that have rekindled my interest. Certainly Porcupine Tree /Steven Wilson are excellent and worthy of the acclaim given here. I've enjoyed what I've heard from Big Big Train but the band that really does it for me is The Tangent. Terrific Instrumental work reminiscent of the best of the Canterbury bands and Andy Tillison's wonderful contemporary lyrics.
1-5: every Wobbler album 6: Gryphon - ReInvention 7: Gryphon - Get Out of My Father's Car! 8: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness 9: The Richard D. James Album 10: Drukqs :p what can I say. Not a modern prog fan. Great vid! Great quality, and enjoyable discussion even if I'm not a modern progo!
Raven for me is 'hands down' one of the best albums I have heard in the last fifty years. It ticks all the boxes for me....what a band!! Stevens beautiful writing and singing. The arranging and production!!!...and as I have said before Theo (another Brummie) told me about it at the time.....MASTERPIECE
Really cool! Id like to give a shout out to Sanguine Hum, any album of theirs, but particularly The Weight Of the World. Very very brilliant. Also id have Thank You Scientist - Terraformer Oh and I'm one of the few that actually preferred Experiments In Mass Appeal over Milliontown :0
Great fun, but no Riverside mention? Up there with Steven Wilson’s output In my opinion. I reckon Second Life Syndrome is one of the best in the last 20 years.
Good video, nice to see you tackling more contemporary music. I totally agree with your top two, incredible albums, and your comments about the difference between prog and progressive are my main problems with neo prog, I don't hear much that challenges me. I have tried Big Big Train (agree Andy, English ascetic in spades), I have a friend who is a big fan, he offered to send me an album, I replied I'd listen first before he went to the trouble, I couldn't get past track four, I was so bored, the same for their album this year, all I can here is "we've listened to a load of Genesis albums". I might be doing them a disservice there, all our tastes are different. The same goes for Spock's Beard and Transatlantic, I just cannot listen beyond four tracks. I'd never heard of Frost before coming to your channel, and of course, I wanted to check you out, could you walk the walk, so I bought Million Town, have to say, brilliant album, definitely should be on the list. I'd put two Porcupine Tree albums, In Absentia and Deadwing, much as I love Fear of a Blank Planet, I feel those two are slightly better. So here's my top ten: 10: North Atlantic Oscillation - The Third Day 9: Marillion - Marbles 8: Airbag - A Day at the Beach 7: Ian Anderson/ Roine Stolt - The Invention of Knowledge 6: Pineapple Thief - Your Wilderness 5: Frost - Million Town 4: Porcupine Tree - Deadwing 3: Porcupine Tree - In Absentia 2: Steven Wilson - Hand Cannot Erase 1: Steven Wilson - The Raven That Refused to Sing I don't know whether it would fit into this category, but I would give a shout to Vangelis - Juno which is a sublime album 👍👍
Damn. Last time Andy did a 10 best of Prog it cost me £84. How much will these set me back, if I can get them.. Another great video of course. I'm glad you have found a friend 😅
Rain - Singularity Rain - Radio Silence IQ - Road of Bones Marillion -Sounds that Can’t be Made Tin Spirits - Scorch Tool - Lateralus Steven Wilson - The Raven that refused to Sing IQ - Dark Matter Meer - Playing House Meer - Wheels within Wheels
I would love to have Lists of the best No Prog Art Rock and the best Anti-Progrock Art Rock Albums for every Decade from the 60ties up to now. That would be about 14 Lists. Would be nice.
Great stuff chaps. The stories and banter really made it (and Andy's Morecambe & Wise bit, "Rubbish!" was hilarious - shoulda been "Ruggish" obvs, but it was still funny). I would add to the list ''The Death Defying Unicorn' by Motorpsycho.
As I'm old school, prog for me was the 70s. Most of what passes for prog these days(and I have listened to quite a lot) doesn't do it for me. I am disappointed, though, that the Enid weren't mentioned, as Invicta(2012) and Dust(2016) are both pretty damn fab.
what a great and entertaning video / podcast 😊 with two .also good good choices .steven wilson is fine number one . hope to see more modern prog . for me is the tangent and flowerkings special .
Nice list. Hard to argue with Steve's credentials. Other bands that I would have strongly considered to be included: Arena, Wobbler, Pineapple Thief, The Flower Kings, Echolyn, and albums by legacy bands Yes, Jethro Tull, Kansas, Caravan, Strawbs, Camel...tough to limit this to 10!
Great choices. I also like Riverside, The Pineapple Thief, Mystery, Airbag and Sylvan. Love Hogarth era Marillion much more than Fish era. Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson are my favourites though 😊
Thank you for an incredibly entertaining and informative video. However, I must disagree with Steve's opinion of Frost's "Snowman." I think it's a perfect little gem of a song. I hope you two team up for some more episodes.
Really enjoyed that gentleman I'm so glad ive just found your channel. Some great albums Children of E.L.B Remedies Beauty of our youth All by a small band from Norway called. SOUP
@richardwaite8455 IQ are a massive miss here. 3 albums i listed above here. Andy even has Road of Bones on the main pic for this posting, what happened?
Pendragon and Arena have done some amazing albums in the last 30 years. Masquerade Overture, Out Of This World, Pure, The Visitor, Pepper's Ghost, Immortal?, Contagion. All brilliant stuff.
An interesting list of bands/albums. Still can’t enjoy Marillion, tried but still meh. I would have added Master of Illusion by Magenta, truly amazing music. For BBT I would have chosen English Electric Full Power as a stronger showing of the band. As for newer bands, I would add The Winter Machine debut album.
Good choices, but I'd suggest anything by Diagonal (very soft machine), Astra's first album, and Demian's Building an Empire. All great, satisfying and exploratory albums!
Glad that you didn't indulge in fake modesty by leaving Milliontown off the list. It really is THAT good in my opinion. I was born in 92, so all the classic prog rock albums that regularly top everyone's lists were firmly in historical status for me as a lad. They're all great, but they're not albums that I grew up with. MILLIONTOWN is something that I got to experience as a teenager when my tastes were still malleable and developing, and I had a similar sort of reaction. "Oh my goddddddd." That intro to Hyperventilate is a perfect example of using dynamics in an arrangement, the initial synth line joined by the piano really does evoke a cold atmosphere, then the way the main melody comes in, followed shortly by the swelling synth string and your percussion, as it just builds and builds until THAT drop, the wintry explosion of colour and fury. It gives me chills every time. Thank you so much for being part of that album. Side note, shame on Steve for not digging Snowman. I'm an amateur vocalist myself, and Snowman is one of my favourite pieces to perform. I'll never tire of how the vocal lines and lyrics are so sad and forlorn whilst the arrangement itself is relatively bright. It's all about the CONTRASTS, can't have light without dark, and that's a theme that really shines through in Frost*.
My top 10 progressive music albums in no particular order are... Anglagard - Viljans Öga Porcupine Tree - In Absentia Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural History King Crimson - The Power To Believe Steven Wilson - Grace For Drowning Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever White Willow - Sacrament Deus Ex Machina - Cinque Anna von Hausswolff - Dead Magic Tool - Lateralus
In Absentia without doubt the best PT album post 2000 to my ears. Will say i generally prefer their more psych period from the 90's though. Surprised Riverside didn't get a mention. Second Life Syndrome and Anno Domini High Definition are fantastic albums.
Milliontown remembrance? Mitchell, Jowitt, you and Godfrey? BRING IT ON! Keeping with Wilson's involvement, what about the first OSI album? Just got out of the car having listened to Distorted Harmony's Utopia - excellent stuff and no mention of Devin?
Some of mine that weren't on your list(s) - and some of these are more prog-adjacent perhaps, but no less worth a listen: Pure Reason Revolution: Eupnea Riverside: Second Life Syndrome / Love, Fear and the Time Machine (tough to pick just one) Mostly Autumn: Dressed In Voices Magenta: Home / New York Suite (one album really, and now available as such and where Magenta really found their own voice) Lonely Robot: Please Come Home John Wesley: Disconnect (proggy-ish americana, but one of the best guitar-centric albums of recent years) Headspace: I Am Anonymous Frost*: Falling Satellites Fish: A Feast Of Consequences District 97: In Vaults Chimpan A: Chimpan A Audioplastik: In The Head Of A Maniac Dec Burke: Destroy All Monsters (and best album cover ever!) Nightwish: Imaginaerum / Endless Forms Most Beautiful (again, tough to pick just one) Abel Ganz: Abel Ganz Alan Reed: First In A Field Of One Opeth: Pale Communion Soen: Lotus Steve Rothery: The Ghosts Of Pripyat Anette Olzon: Shine (symphonic prog pop maybe?)
TBTotallyH I lost interest in new prog in 1977, or 1997, when Yes put out GFT1, & Supertramp BIA79. - After Genesis went pop, & Rick Davies of Supertramp went that route too I felt there was nothing more left. I just listen to the old stuff & that gives me joy.
Andy i have the 2020 remaster cd of Milliontown. Sad to report, but the picture of the band with you your flowing locks is not there ! An omission there being no IQ and Frequency is definitely a fair shout. Loved the video
@AndyEdwardsDrummer You don't seem thrilled with the treatment of the drums, but still went on to drum on Experiments in mass appeal ? Have other albums you have drummed on been treated in the same way ? Milliontown us much loved. Can you listen to it and enjoy ? Doesn't say much for us lot !
Oh I saw the brave tour in Sheffield and it was magnificent..... Early days as I've just started watching and I am yet to see the parameters.... Ahhhh the last 25 years.... Hmmm ok 🧐
Btw , Andy , that top 10 UK crisps video was the greatest thing I've seen in the last ten years.... I will put my tuppence worth of thought in it tonight.... But that video and the grumpy senior cat Grandpa Mason with the kittens were the best two videos of the last ten years. And I hope to learn from this because I tend to romanticise the past , I can think of , off the top of my head , Opeth watershed and oh bollox what was it called, ah yea, ghost reveries , porcupine tree AAAAND that's about it at the moment 🧐
Andy, you should listen to the amazing song "Senhoras Do Amazonas" by "Sergio Mendes". I think you'll like it ❤ The suggestion is not related to this video 😂
Didn't agree with most of these but thumbs up to BBT's The Likes of Us and SW's albums - no love for Grace For Drowning? - certainly on an equal footing or even better than The Raven or HCE
Prog music killed a generation of their young fans' creative outlet. Punk solved that problem and was a reaction to prog only for this reason. Prog required its musicians to have so much virtuosity that its fans were put off from creating, the only option left for fans of that music was appreciation. Punk music gave back the rights to young people to start over, do their own thing, with minimal skills, and thus create something, find their own voice, and react, rather than just appreciate and idolize. I experienced this thing myself as a young music fan and player, I also hear this from not music critics but punk, post punk, post hardcore musicians themselves. I was just listening to a recent podcast interview with Shudder to Think vocalist and he said the same thing. Being a fan of prog and fusion in my teens and twenties, I did not find the courage to write my own music until I discovered punk, post punk, post hardcore, and post rock music, I was chained until then. Your idea that punk was not a reaction to prog but was a continuation of prog, is wrong by the musicians experience involved in these genres. It is wrong for me. Being a drummer, you may have a different experience and view, because drummers were free to find a role in any band of any genre, a bit similar to bass players. Not for other instrument players, especially soloists. and especially not for songwriters, the barrier to entry in prog was unnecessarily too high on the soloists and the songwriters. So creative souls found another outlet for themselves, and prog was left with the rest, the less imaginative and less creative musicians, thus the stale state of modern prog where there is not much worth listening to.
Milliontown for me, I bought it when it came out and it is still their best album. The new album is too long, yes it's probably the best since Milliontown but it comes up a bit short.
Gaza was on Sounds that can’t be made by Marillion. Great album!
As ever - a great and entertaining podcast. My only reservation is it excludes the great modern Scandinavian bands like Wobbler, Moon Safari and Opeth
So happy you mentioned the It Bites‘s albums with John Mitchell. Both incredible works. And you‘re right, under a different name everyone would be raving and talking about them. Although it was done with absolute respect for what Francis Dunnery did.
I do love both albums John Mitchell did with It Bites !
This is the first TH-cam podcast with a moving camera! Breaking new ground
Bloody posh innit
Hi Andy - was that Rob Groucutt on camera? - fine work indeed! 👍 keep these humorous and informative videos coming. Cheers Matt
it is
1. Zevious: Passing through the Wall
2. Levin / Torn / White: Levin / Torn / White
3. Sonar (w/David Torn & J. Peter Schwalm): Three Movements
4. Stephan Thelen: Fractal Guitar
5. The Wrong Object: Into the Herd
6. Dwiki Dharmawan: Hari Ketiga
7. Mark Wingfield: Tales from the Dreaming City (maybe not prog?)
8. DFA: 4th
9. Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Of the Last Human Being
10. Alex Machacek: 24 Tales
I discovered Prog through Alan "Fluff" Freeman's Saturday afternoon show. He played And You and I and Child in Time back to back. That was it. Been hooked ever since.
Alarmist - Sequesterer, Hashshashin - Badakhshan, Physics House Band - Mercury Fountain, We Stood Like Kings - USA 1982, Enloom - In the Lantern Cusp, Night Verses - Gallery of Sleep, Raphael Weinroth-Browne - Worlds Within, Onsegen Ensemble - Fear, Darcy James Argue - Infernal Machines, Battles - Mirrored, Consider The Source in general… are a few
IQ - Frequency, Rain - Singularity and Radio Silence, Frost* - Milliontown and Experiments in Mass Appeal?
Really enjoy the guest appearing a studio; no lag online, great sound quality and I love the banter and people sparking off each other. Enjoying the list, the studio, the format and the banter! Well done Andy and Steve (the new Two Ronnie's....?)
Our pleasure!
Agreed
Just listening to sound of contact album
Really enjoying it
Diamond in the rough
This is fun to check out the half of these I haven’t listened. My own personal top 10 (in case anyone finds it interesting, which you don’t need to, my taste and knowledge is more fully realized in prog metal anyway lol) is:
10. 10,000 Days - Tool
9. Deadwing - Porcupine Tree
8. Gravity - Anekdoten
7. In Absentia - Porcupine Tree
6. Hazards of Love - The Decemberists
5. Fields - Hammers of Misfortune
4. Polygondwanaland - King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard
3. Damnation - Opeth
2. The Death Defying Unicorn - Motorpsycho
1. Hand Cannot Erase - Steven Wilson
Hazards of love is brilliant
King Gizzard's polygondwanaland should be on this list.
Agreed, also their microtonal albums volumes 1-3. I love KGLW.
More recently too, their album Petro-dragonic Apocalypse is an excellent prog metal album 🔥
It would be number 1 on my list
I agree !
That's a good choice. Highly original!
I'm listening to Wobbler and the fantastic Chronicles of Father Robin trilogy. These are both great modern prog bands.
I'm going to be honest. Milliontown is my fav album ever. Thanks, Andy, for being part of it
The production, the journey it takes you on, it is my most listened to album in the past 3 years. The first few songs set the stage and are strong without breaking the mold too much, then when Black Light Machine hits and for the rest of the album you are flying.
IQ-" Road Of Bones"
Steven Wilson- "Hand. Cannot. Erase."
Wobbler- " Silence To Somewhere"
Big Big Train- "Folklore"
Caligonaut- "Magnified as Giants"
Logos- "L'enigma Della Vita"
Haken- "Fauna"
Seven Impale- "Summit"
Steven Wilson- "The Raven Refuse To Sing"
Moon Safari- "Blomljud'
Here to learn. Great list. Also like the mute gods and the tangent. Thanks to the both of you.
Thank you lads, enjoyed that and I will check out some of these later prog artists.
Great video discussion.
I have dipped my toes in with a few of these artists, but many others are almost unknown to me.
Keen to check out all those I've missed.
Great video, Andy! Love it when you have Steve on!
Always thought that the Riverside album Love, Fear and the Time Machine was one of the best modern day Prog albums I’ve heard these past 10 years. Brilliant from start to finish. If this isn’t on the list then I have no taste in music.
@@kenjones6441 I love this genre ever since I discovered King Crimson and YES . Prog never died it has simply become underground. I'm ok with that. Obviously Steve Wilson should get credit , but so many bands have continued to carry the torch. Riverside and Opeth deserve such kudos as does Marillion and IQ.
There's so many other bands that are amazing. Thank goodness we have plenty of formats that allow free expression. At the same it is a shame these artists don't have the financial respects.
Fantastic video Andy love it
Fantastic list! Thank you.
Some nominations:
"Here comes the Man from the Council with a Flamethrower" by A Formal Horse
"Dominion" by Zopp
"Hoping Against Hope" by Thinking Plague
"Grand Opening and Closing" by Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
and the entire catalog of probably the only prog soul band, Haitus Kaiyote
Very interesting and agree with 5 of them. But im shocked there's no IQ. Frequency, Road of Bones and Resistance are epic albums. A band that just seems to get better as they get older. And interestingly you have the cover of Road of bones on the front page ?
Glad to see Steve fit and well after 'The Incident'! Prog on Bro!
This was a great top 10 gents- well done! I found it especially useful as I don't generally listen to much prog beyond 1980 to be honest... invaluable info. Well recorded too with perfect sound and vision in your studio Andy- cheers again!
I think The Road of Bones deserves to be on the list, but it is a close call for me as I feel Resistance is better. Frequency will forever be a favourite, (and not just pandering to Andy), as it was my first IQ album.
''The Likes of Us'' is an absolutely brilliant album
Absolutely agree... IQ is one of the greatest prog bands still going. Frequency is superb too.. i was surprised no album in top ten as Andy once played with them as well..
Absolutely brilliant guys! See you at Fusion in March!
Nice show, gentlemen! So much great contemporary prog albums to choose from! Albums that hit the mark for me too, which came to mind, are 'Pale Communion'. by Opeth, '+4626 - COMFORTZONE' by Beardfish, 'Dark Matter' bij IQ (sorry Andy!) and 'Unfold the Future' by The Flower Kings.
I do hope you've heard Wobbler.
• From Silence to Somewhere
• Dwellers of the Deep
Oh Andy , you are my safe shore , from crisps to prog..... Shine on , sir from soggy Staffordshire 👍
Wow, thanks
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer that probably sounded a little too erotically snuggly tbh !! 🤣 But you have the best channel on YT. So I guess down the line, the 10 greatest choccy bars must be next , unless I've missed something??!! And obviously the lost lamented Topic is the winner!! 🥲
Andy and Steven great ranking of these important newer progressive rock bands. Andy, I am very impressed that you worked on the spectrum mornings video with David Longdon and Christina Booth. I absolutely love that tune and that presentation and have to hear it every week! I feel so sad that David Longdon has passed. I only learned about big big train a little before he died and now I am a massive fan and try to watch all of their live shows on TH-cam, David, Longdonand rest in peace, you are a massive talent David and you are very very much missed Stephen and Andy I think you omitted- one incredibly talentedbrilliant neo PROG -Rock auteur- and that is Andy Tillison and the Tangent and I am totally in love with the new album’ to follow Polaris ‘song ,,and’the ANACHRONISM’-that just sum up where we are politically and socially today’ we have no passions we have no hopes, WE DON’T HAVE NOTHING THAT’S GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE2’ paraphrasing whatever Andy said there, and I absolutely love’ a place in the queue’ that I was turned on by Andy’s, dear friend and nemesis Scott Lade, and I hope you two guys get to do another progressive rock altercation online ha ha ha all right mates ,great work!!!
‘that should read-‘Spectral Mornings’! Video.
NICE i want more of that podcast great
I've got back into prog recently after a lengthy hiatus and its programs like this and Sea of Tranquillity that have rekindled my interest. Certainly Porcupine Tree /Steven Wilson are excellent and worthy of the acclaim given here. I've enjoyed what I've heard from Big Big Train but the band that really does it for me is The Tangent. Terrific Instrumental work reminiscent of the best of the Canterbury bands and Andy Tillison's wonderful contemporary lyrics.
1-5: every Wobbler album
6: Gryphon - ReInvention
7: Gryphon - Get Out of My Father's Car!
8: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
9: The Richard D. James Album
10: Drukqs
:p what can I say. Not a modern prog fan. Great vid! Great quality, and enjoyable discussion even if I'm not a modern progo!
Absolute bangers. I need to check out Gryphon now. Great taste, Mister 🍷
Loved this video and have quite a few new albums to listen to :)
Raven for me is 'hands down' one of the best albums I have heard in the last fifty years. It ticks all the boxes for me....what a band!! Stevens beautiful writing and singing. The arranging and production!!!...and as I have said before Theo (another Brummie) told me about it at the time.....MASTERPIECE
Really cool!
Id like to give a shout out to Sanguine Hum, any album of theirs, but particularly The Weight Of the World. Very very brilliant.
Also id have Thank You Scientist - Terraformer
Oh and I'm one of the few that actually preferred Experiments In Mass Appeal over Milliontown :0
Great fun, but no Riverside mention? Up there with Steven Wilson’s output In my opinion. I reckon Second Life Syndrome is one of the best in the last 20 years.
Thanks both, very enjoyable. Raven is definitely my top album too.
Another great watch.
Love the mistakes being listed in the description lol.
Brilliant. Good fun.
Very Enjoyable !! Really Dig the Banter . I was interested What the Choices Were going to be . Gives Me a few New Bands to check out .
Good video, nice to see you tackling more contemporary music.
I totally agree with your top two, incredible albums, and your comments about the difference between prog and progressive are my main problems with neo prog, I don't hear much that challenges me. I have tried Big Big Train (agree Andy, English ascetic in spades), I have a friend who is a big fan, he offered to send me an album, I replied I'd listen first before he went to the trouble, I couldn't get past track four, I was so bored, the same for their album this year, all I can here is "we've listened to a load of Genesis albums". I might be doing them a disservice there, all our tastes are different. The same goes for Spock's Beard and Transatlantic, I just cannot listen beyond four tracks.
I'd never heard of Frost before coming to your channel, and of course, I wanted to check you out, could you walk the walk, so I bought Million Town, have to say, brilliant album, definitely should be on the list.
I'd put two Porcupine Tree albums, In Absentia and Deadwing, much as I love Fear of a Blank Planet, I feel those two are slightly better.
So here's my top ten:
10: North Atlantic Oscillation - The Third Day
9: Marillion - Marbles
8: Airbag - A Day at the Beach
7: Ian Anderson/ Roine Stolt - The Invention of Knowledge
6: Pineapple Thief - Your Wilderness
5: Frost - Million Town
4: Porcupine Tree - Deadwing
3: Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
2: Steven Wilson - Hand Cannot Erase
1: Steven Wilson - The Raven That Refused to Sing
I don't know whether it would fit into this category, but I would give a shout to Vangelis - Juno which is a sublime album 👍👍
fantastic video! would love to see more of this sort
Great video!!
Andy, It would be great if you interviewed Steven Wilson for the channel.
Absolutely fantastic and also have a great day Andy ❤😊
Damn. Last time Andy did a 10 best of Prog it cost me £84. How much will these set me back, if I can get them.. Another great video of course. I'm glad you have found a friend 😅
Rain - Singularity
Rain - Radio Silence
IQ - Road of Bones
Marillion -Sounds that Can’t be Made
Tin Spirits - Scorch
Tool - Lateralus
Steven Wilson - The Raven that refused to Sing
IQ - Dark Matter
Meer - Playing House
Meer - Wheels within Wheels
I would love to have Lists of the best No Prog Art Rock and the best Anti-Progrock Art Rock Albums for every Decade from the 60ties up to now. That would be about 14 Lists.
Would be nice.
Great stuff chaps. The stories and banter really made it (and Andy's Morecambe & Wise bit, "Rubbish!" was hilarious - shoulda been "Ruggish" obvs, but it was still funny). I would add to the list ''The Death Defying Unicorn' by Motorpsycho.
I have 9 of these albums. I would have gone with Marillion's Marbles album. And definitely included Black Box by Major Parkinson.
This American got it Andy, hysterical!
As I'm old school, prog for me was the 70s. Most of what passes for prog these days(and I have listened to quite a lot) doesn't do it for me. I am disappointed, though, that the Enid weren't mentioned, as Invicta(2012) and Dust(2016) are both pretty damn fab.
what a great and entertaning video / podcast 😊 with two .also good good choices .steven wilson is fine number one .
hope to see more modern prog .
for me is the tangent and flowerkings special .
Frost*'s last album, "Life in the Wires", is absolutely fantastic! It will enter some prog lovers "top ten" for sure!
That was great Andy, thanks. Sadly, you left out "Jacob's Ladder".
Nice list. Hard to argue with Steve's credentials. Other bands that I would have strongly considered to be included: Arena, Wobbler, Pineapple Thief, The Flower Kings, Echolyn, and albums by legacy bands Yes, Jethro Tull, Kansas, Caravan, Strawbs, Camel...tough to limit this to 10!
Great choices. I also like Riverside, The Pineapple Thief, Mystery, Airbag and Sylvan. Love Hogarth era Marillion much more than Fish era. Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson are my favourites though 😊
Echolyn's Mei and the 2012 self titled belong in the conversation. 44:12 44:14 44:15
Black midi
Sleepytime gorilla musuem
Free salamander exhibit
King gizzard (that one prog album)
Shaolin death squad
Magenta? Opeth? Devin Townsend? Moon Safari? Ulver? Haken? Sleepytime Gorilla Museum? Ozric Tentacles?
Still, good show.
Thank you for an incredibly entertaining and informative video. However, I must disagree with Steve's opinion of Frost's "Snowman." I think it's a perfect little gem of a song. I hope you two team up for some more episodes.
Really enjoyed that gentleman I'm so glad ive just found your channel.
Some great albums
Children of E.L.B
Remedies
Beauty of our youth
All by a small band from Norway called. SOUP
Marco Minneman was the drummer on Hand Cannot Erase. Except for Happy Returns which was Chad Wackerman - good list guys 👍
I'm surprised IQ, pendragon and Arena weren't on the list, very surprised!🤨
In order - Bag of prog tropes, Who?, Bag of assorted tropes..
@richardwaite8455 IQ are a massive miss here. 3 albums i listed above here. Andy even has Road of Bones on the main pic for this posting, what happened?
Pendragon and Arena have done some amazing albums in the last 30 years. Masquerade Overture, Out Of This World, Pure, The Visitor, Pepper's Ghost, Immortal?, Contagion. All brilliant stuff.
@@PeterR1chard Absolutely nothing original about any of that material. My opinion. AI could do that.
@@PeterR1chard ya I reviewed them again, gave a fair listen to all three.
Just a thought .... Steve said "Went of at a Tangent ....... where are they?" Andy Tillison is a Prog genius!
Yes!!! It Bites The Tall Ships. Brilliant.
I sometimes wonder WTF IQ have to do to get the recognition they deserve. Still producing superb music after more than 40 years.
I love that video of Spectral Mornings. ❤
An interesting list of bands/albums. Still can’t enjoy Marillion, tried but still meh. I would have added Master of Illusion by Magenta, truly amazing music. For BBT I would have chosen English Electric Full Power as a stronger showing of the band. As for newer bands, I would add The Winter Machine debut album.
Steve and Lou Gould best show on the great progzilla
yes...Lou has appeared on my channel a couple of times too
Good choices, but I'd suggest anything by Diagonal (very soft machine), Astra's first album, and Demian's Building an Empire. All great, satisfying and exploratory albums!
Is Steve, "the" Steve Gould from Rare Bird? If so, get him to sing Sympathy - or Flight!
Glad that you didn't indulge in fake modesty by leaving Milliontown off the list. It really is THAT good in my opinion. I was born in 92, so all the classic prog rock albums that regularly top everyone's lists were firmly in historical status for me as a lad. They're all great, but they're not albums that I grew up with. MILLIONTOWN is something that I got to experience as a teenager when my tastes were still malleable and developing, and I had a similar sort of reaction. "Oh my goddddddd." That intro to Hyperventilate is a perfect example of using dynamics in an arrangement, the initial synth line joined by the piano really does evoke a cold atmosphere, then the way the main melody comes in, followed shortly by the swelling synth string and your percussion, as it just builds and builds until THAT drop, the wintry explosion of colour and fury. It gives me chills every time. Thank you so much for being part of that album. Side note, shame on Steve for not digging Snowman. I'm an amateur vocalist myself, and Snowman is one of my favourite pieces to perform. I'll never tire of how the vocal lines and lyrics are so sad and forlorn whilst the arrangement itself is relatively bright. It's all about the CONTRASTS, can't have light without dark, and that's a theme that really shines through in Frost*.
The video is very entertaining
Wobbler, Haken, Anekdoten, The Ocean, Anglagard. Haken's The Mountain is a magnificent album.
@@leonidasnz1972 Wobblers albums albums are a must listen also beardfish
My top 10 progressive music albums in no particular order are...
Anglagard - Viljans Öga
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural History
King Crimson - The Power To Believe
Steven Wilson - Grace For Drowning
Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever
White Willow - Sacrament
Deus Ex Machina - Cinque
Anna von Hausswolff - Dead Magic
Tool - Lateralus
So glad to see big big train in the list.
In Absentia without doubt the best PT album post 2000 to my ears. Will say i generally prefer their more psych period from the 90's though. Surprised Riverside didn't get a mention. Second Life Syndrome and Anno Domini High Definition are fantastic albums.
Agree.
Great show!! what about Italian prog! Do you even like Italian prog?😀
No Wobbler?
Milliontown remembrance? Mitchell, Jowitt, you and Godfrey? BRING IT ON! Keeping with Wilson's involvement, what about the first OSI album? Just got out of the car having listened to Distorted Harmony's Utopia - excellent stuff and no mention of Devin?
Some of mine that weren't on your list(s) - and some of these are more prog-adjacent perhaps, but no less worth a listen:
Pure Reason Revolution: Eupnea
Riverside: Second Life Syndrome / Love, Fear and the Time Machine (tough to pick just one)
Mostly Autumn: Dressed In Voices
Magenta: Home / New York Suite (one album really, and now available as such and where Magenta really found their own voice)
Lonely Robot: Please Come Home
John Wesley: Disconnect (proggy-ish americana, but one of the best guitar-centric albums of recent years)
Headspace: I Am Anonymous
Frost*: Falling Satellites
Fish: A Feast Of Consequences
District 97: In Vaults
Chimpan A: Chimpan A
Audioplastik: In The Head Of A Maniac
Dec Burke: Destroy All Monsters (and best album cover ever!)
Nightwish: Imaginaerum / Endless Forms Most Beautiful (again, tough to pick just one)
Abel Ganz: Abel Ganz
Alan Reed: First In A Field Of One
Opeth: Pale Communion
Soen: Lotus
Steve Rothery: The Ghosts Of Pripyat
Anette Olzon: Shine (symphonic prog pop maybe?)
That was a great selection. I would have put IQ instead of Marillion in the top 10, but other than that, excellent choices.
TBTotallyH I lost interest in new prog in 1977, or 1997, when Yes put out GFT1, & Supertramp BIA79. - After Genesis went pop, & Rick Davies of Supertramp went that route too I felt there was nothing more left. I just listen to the old stuff & that gives me joy.
Andy i have the 2020 remaster cd of Milliontown. Sad to report, but the picture of the band with you your flowing locks is not there ! An omission there being no IQ and Frequency is definitely a fair shout. Loved the video
I have not heard that, I wonder if my drumming has been even more erased on that one
@AndyEdwardsDrummer You don't seem thrilled with the treatment of the drums, but still went on to drum on Experiments in mass appeal ?
Have other albums you have drummed on been treated in the same way ?
Milliontown us much loved. Can you listen to it and enjoy ? Doesn't say much for us lot !
Can't argue with 3 Steven Wilson albums on this list! Looking forward to Newcastle 2025
Brave by Marillion is the best concept album of recent times. Not sure if it counts as prog though.
I wouldn’t consider that recent considering it’s 30 years ago 😂 my vote goes to the similitude of a dream though.
Oh I saw the brave tour in Sheffield and it was magnificent..... Early days as I've just started watching and I am yet to see the parameters.... Ahhhh the last 25 years.... Hmmm ok 🧐
Btw , Andy , that top 10 UK crisps video was the greatest thing I've seen in the last ten years.... I will put my tuppence worth of thought in it tonight.... But that video and the grumpy senior cat Grandpa Mason with the kittens were the best two videos of the last ten years. And I hope to learn from this because I tend to romanticise the past , I can think of , off the top of my head , Opeth watershed and oh bollox what was it called, ah yea, ghost reveries , porcupine tree AAAAND that's about it at the moment 🧐
Enjoyed the show emensly but where’s frequency? Ha ha. Brilliant
Great video but mostly safe classic prog sounding choices. Where's stuff like mars volta Frances the mute?
Darwin's Radio. I just bought the last copy on Discogs.
I would of included Wobbler.But SW and Porcupine Tree are at the top of any list of mine
i would add the flower kings ,wobbler ,karfagen etc....
A.C.T. at least Epic.
We need IQ , can we do a top 25 ? So many more.
@@joecrocilla7695 IQ are a blatant omision here
Forget all this prog rubbish. What I want to know is the Top 10 cheeses.
Andy, you should listen to the amazing song "Senhoras Do Amazonas" by "Sergio Mendes". I think you'll like it ❤
The suggestion is not related to this video 😂
Didn't agree with most of these but thumbs up to BBT's The Likes of Us and SW's albums - no love for Grace For Drowning? - certainly on an equal footing or even better than The Raven or HCE
Where can I find the Steve Gould podcast ? (I'm dutch and cannot make out the spoken text about this exactly)
Prog music killed a generation of their young fans' creative outlet. Punk solved that problem and was a reaction to prog only for this reason. Prog required its musicians to have so much virtuosity that its fans were put off from creating, the only option left for fans of that music was appreciation. Punk music gave back the rights to young people to start over, do their own thing, with minimal skills, and thus create something, find their own voice, and react, rather than just appreciate and idolize. I experienced this thing myself as a young music fan and player, I also hear this from not music critics but punk, post punk, post hardcore musicians themselves. I was just listening to a recent podcast interview with Shudder to Think vocalist and he said the same thing. Being a fan of prog and fusion in my teens and twenties, I did not find the courage to write my own music until I discovered punk, post punk, post hardcore, and post rock music, I was chained until then. Your idea that punk was not a reaction to prog but was a continuation of prog, is wrong by the musicians experience involved in these genres. It is wrong for me. Being a drummer, you may have a different experience and view, because drummers were free to find a role in any band of any genre, a bit similar to bass players. Not for other instrument players, especially soloists. and especially not for songwriters, the barrier to entry in prog was unnecessarily too high on the soloists and the songwriters. So creative souls found another outlet for themselves, and prog was left with the rest, the less imaginative and less creative musicians, thus the stale state of modern prog where there is not much worth listening to.
Milliontown for me, I bought it when it came out and it is still their best album. The new album is too long, yes it's probably the best since Milliontown but it comes up a bit short.
What about Cocoon by Tiger Moth Tales. It is an incredible album