i came out as an agnostic-atheist to my parents a few hours ago... Matt you prepared me well. i had calm logical arguments and must admit i used Slavery and they pleaded “context.” which i shot down quoting the NT. even tho i was calm and told them i was reluctant, was sad to disappoint them, etc, they were not as sad as they were angry. which surprised me. i am unfortunately really alone. i moved from LA to rural NC and my dad is a pastor and well known in the area. he was so angry with me. i’ve always been a daddy’s girl. i’m old enough that i’m ok but i appreciate the Atheist Experience and Matt bc i was well prepared and calmly logical. it ended with “well you’re very intelligent and obviously have studied a lot, but satan has taken over you. god has given you over to a reprobate mind” i said “cool well i’m going out for a smoke. i’m open to discussing further and answering your questions” my mom was furiously googling everything i said on her laptop bc she doesn’t know the bible very well and was checking passages i quoted to her. good times. i do feel better than i’m not hiding this. also i’m 42.
Amanda’s Umbrella LOL, i came out as atheist to my folks when I was in my 20’s. The last time the subject came up my Mom was about 90 and I was about 65, she told me “You’re just going through a phase”. She died a few months ago at 95 but she never really understood what I am, you just have to love them regardless of their weird beliefs.
ExMormon RoverPaula thank you..... ya... it’s definitely not an easy road. what’s funny is they think i left the faith out of disliking church and that i chose the easy decision. i told them it was an 18yr journey. 18years. and i get rejection and feeling raw and lost and alone. ya. that was the easy decision. ha.
How do you reconcile your Atheists beliefs with the incontrovertible scientific evidence for the existence of God? Atheism is really an anti science cult. Which makes its followers look dumb to the rest of the world.
Jephthah: "Whatever comes out of my door, I'll burn." *Reasonable assumption that a person would come out is fulfilled.* Jephthah: Surprised Pikachu face.
Actually there would be an argument that reasonably it would be expected that first smoke or the smell of cooked food should come out of a door to "greet him"... but how do you give up on that? Never start a fire again? Stop eating?
Apology: I was wrong about the following statement, KJV does for one, I stand corrected. Where or what version says" burned". Any reliable version says sacrifice which does not mean burn. There are many ways to sacrifice to the Lord and none of them condone human sacrifice. That was the practice of the pagan nations that became condemned.
@@r4hnsn Where? Really? Uhh yeah, hmm, did you even watch the video? The entire thing and listen? Open your Bible and read it along with him. This stuff isn't being made up. Well, I suppose your brand of Christianity could have that stuff edited out of its Bibles. Humans do like to write new Bibles after all. Doesn't change it being there in the Jewish and Christian texts it's based off of though.
@@Ugly_German_Truths You can't burn smoke or a smell and what kind of a sacrifice is that? Your assessment of what is reasonable seems more like an ad hoc excuse for pathetic behaviour because you don't want to admit how pathetic and stupid it would have been if the story actually happened. Your explanation isn't rational, realistic nor reasonable. Both the idiot and his invisible friend knew beforehand that it would be a child.
1. Person asks supernatural entity for favor. 2. Entity agrees with a somewhat misleading, open-ended promise. 3. Promise is fulfilled. 4. Repayment turns out to be a terrible surprise. Isn't that how "deals with the devil", not God, are supposed to go?
Though to be fair to the guy allegedly upstairs, there was a VERY high chance his daughter would be the first thing to greet him, so he was just being stupid when he made that pact.
@A C Jack John has a God - If you were really concerned that a fellow human being had lost their way and was in risk of damnation, I don't think you'd convince them to listen to you by calling them morons.
@A C Jack John has a God 1 : Straight out of the gate, ... " you are a moron ". Is that your " go to " assumption about anyone who does not share your " belief " ? 2 : " Rejecting God " ? That doesn't apply when the God you allege does not present as self evident, free of the " necessity " of belief. I.e. How does one reject what is not in evidence ? What is absent objective proof ? The alleged existence of which can be reasonably questioned and placed in dispute ? 3 : Where do you get off making assumptions about the motivations of the poster you are responding to ? Do you not ever question what appears to be your unchecked habit of speaking from such obvious ignorance ? 4 :" Going to a very dark place " ... is that something you have read somewhere or were told ? If not, what is the basis of your attempting the suggestion ? 5 : " Where human pos go " ?? I don''t get what you mean here. Please explain.
@@ronaldmendonca6636 I hear there was fire. I like fire. I can make coffee for everyone. I suppose my guitar is fucked with all the heat variance, so that sucks, but the only thing I'm worried about is that there probably will be no cold diet cola, so when Matt joins us, there will be hell to pay.
Spectacularly done. I was rapt for the whole thing. This is one of the stories that horrified me so much when I did the B90 days and read through the whole bible. Reading the bible, by the way, is what made me atheist. Thanks for the video!
This is my friends favorite Bible story. He insists that Jepthah actually sacrificed his door to God as he never defined what “it” meant in his vow. Pretzels indeed.
Well God didn't ask Jephthah to sacrifice anyone, so, from the perspective of the ancient Jews, this one was Jephthah's fault. Basically it's a parable that ancient jews told their kids to teach them not to make foolish promises. Ironically, apart from the end of his story, Jephthah was probably one of the most likeable characters in the old testament. I mean he wasn't a womanizing genocidal maniac like so many others, he tried to make peace before he was forced into war
About Jephtah's wife. The daughter of Jephthah is Iphigenia/Jephingenia. The bible story is pilfered from Sumerian and Greek mythology. You can still see the daughter in the night skies...she is the Virgo constellation. After Medea, Queen Clytemnestra is probably the most notorious woman in Greek mythology. She is also one of the most magnetic, mesmerizing in her fierce determination to kill the man who killed her daughter. That this man happens to be her husband, and that she chooses to dispatch him in his bath-tub with an ax, makes her a storyteller’s lurid dream. Though there are countless depictions of Clytemnestra in ancient and modern works alike, the most enduring has been that in Aeschylus’ Agamemnon. His Clytemnestra is bloody, bold and resolute, a proud lioness, fiercely protective of her children. After the murder, she does not try to hide or run, but strides victoriously before her people, gore-stained ax in hand, declaring that justice has been served.
The creative process that the Christian must go through in order to defend child sacrifice is truly inspiring. From an amoral artistic perspective. Lmfao
When you see how willingly far too many christians let their kids die before they allow a doctor to help them, the mindset still is the same as with Jephthah.
Ugly German Truths or how about the Christians who make decisions for their kids lives and base their decisions in the fear of violating the parameters of their afterlife insurance plan. Many parents metaphorically sacrifice their children’s lives this way.
Please Complete All Fields it is already easy. It’s just self serving confirmation bias and inherently, automatically, unquestionably simply intellectual and moral laziness.
Iphigenia, daughter of Agamemnon. Flip a few details around, and it's more or less the same story. Artemis was pissed for some reason, and Agamemnon had to sacrifice Iphigenia so Artemis would lay off the grudge and let his troops sail for Troy. And Iphigenia went along with it.
@@BlackEpyon And then the classical Greeks tried to soften it by saying "Oh Iphigenia wasn't really sacrificed! The gods substituted a female deer for her on the altar, and she was magically flown to Egypt and had an absolutely spiffy life." Yeah, and my old dog went to live on a farm.
@@BlackEpyonIIRC, at least Agamemmnon's daughter gets a name as well as her mother Clytemnestra (who is also named in different Greek mythological sources) who actually mourns Iphegenia's death and partially because of this, murders her husband in revenge. So while both daughter-sacrifice stories are reprehensible, the daugter in Greek myth is given slightly better treatment than the daughter in Judeo-Christian myth
Love your explanations of these stories! Keep em coming. I study the Bible weekly and it was my study of the Bible that turned me into a skeptic and non believer. I still go to the class but I go to be something of a devil’s advocate. The AE channel has been invaluable Matt. And in the class we rarely move outside of the Gospels and the first five books of the OT.
It's kind of interesting to see the bible being used to solidify my disbelief in a deity. Unfortunately, it took me most of my life to realise this was all a fantasy. Intellectual fun is fun of the highest order, and we see it in action right here.
This myth has a very similar theme to the story of Idomeneus of Crete who after he had left Troy was caught in a severe storm and made a vow to Poseidon that if he and his ship were delivered from the storm, he would sacrifice the first living creature he saw upon his return home. In this case it was his son. The Greek myth does have different ramifications for Idomeneus- although he fulfilled his vow to Poseidon he is punished by the gods and exiled from Crete.
What annoys me about these stories is that god supposedly knows the future. So he should have known all of this was going to happen in the first place. Yet behaves like it's all a surprise. If this god actually existed, this is one of the most clueless, hapless beings there is.
@Chloe and her cat has a God Wow! In a mere seven words, you managed to present an Ad Hominem and a Hasty Generalization; that's _two_ logical fallacies in one gloriously ignorant sentence. If there really is a God, he must just be swellin' with pride.
*Judges **11:39* she returned to her father, who did with her according to his vow which he vowed, and she knew no man. In what scripture does Jephtha vow to give her to the temple? That apologetic is piss poor.
Another interesting and great video, thank you. One thing that puzzles me is how can anyone look in the mirror after trying to put a positive spin on stuff like this. To defend God or find the "moral of the story" in favor of their faith.
v0id I’m no bible scholar, or traditional Christian for that matter.. but maybe this was a parable as Jesus speaks of a few times in the Bible. Maybe to teach a lesson about “sacrificing” things and the impact of your word? Just a thought...
Is there any chance that this, and most Bible stories, were intended for the same Bronze Age audience they were written to and contained meanings that they would have understood beyond literal interpretation?
I followed along on NIV Judges 10 as you explained all of this. Thank you Matt, and cheers from Canada. I once wanted desperately to meet Richard Dawkins. I look even more forward to meeting you.
That would be categorizing slaying as sacrificing they are completely different. With slaying you gain some peace of mind. With sacrificing you typically lose something that may be important to you. On the other hand Gman maybe trying to sacrifice his arguments to Matt... XD
@French Frys He made a video about an announcement of a big comeback at the beginning of this year.....then proceeded to make a grand total of.....1 video....so disappointing
@@matthewlewis2223 hes posted a couple of times now that when he started the videos he had alot of free time. But now he has a full time job and kids so he doesnt have the time like he used to.
It's appalling that some people like apologists still defend this insane verse. In this age of civilization this bad idea still pervades. I'm infuriated, sorry.
I listened to this video on my commute and I just want to say that you are a great storyteller. It's almost like when you read a kid a bedtime story, only with the way women are treated..nobody is sleeping!🤣
12:40 "...this is what my father was told by his father..." and his father's father and his father's father's father and his father's father's father's father
Thanks the video. I understand that story much better now. And the story of Abraham's sacrifice was a bonus. It makes far more sense if we realize Abraham failed the test. I'm surprised I haven't heard Christians use this interpretation. It makes God look much better than the standard Christian interpretation.
I really appreciate all Matt does and do understsnd the value in videos like this, but do find it disappointing that so much time must be wasted learning more about a fictional book. It isn't a waste of time because I know the good that could come from it though discussions with believers, just find it unfortunate we must also try to understand such a nonsensical book for this purpose.
@@jwsanders1214 Good, then I'll make them count. You believe in a cruel dictatorial deity that according to your holy book, has committed numerous acts of utter depravity, including the condoning of, or direct killing of, infants for the sins of their fathers, the actions of their kings, or the fact that they were born into the wrong tribe (Genesis 7:23; Exodus 11:4,5; 2 Samuel 12:15-18; Numbers 31:17,18; 1 Samuel 15:3) If he were a human ruler he would be tried and executed for genocide and crimes against humanity. If he is real, then he is a cosmic dick of the highest magnitude, and I would want nothing to do with him. P.S. If you choose to reply with some crappy Apologetic arguments in response to the cited scriptures, keep in mind I have already heard and will destroy these: 1) Those verses are taken out of context. 2) Those Midianite and Amalekite children would grow up to be evildoers just like their parents, and seek revenge against Israel. 3) All that genocide was necessary to preserve the familial line that would lead to Jesus. 4) Since god is the giver of life, he has the god given right to take whatever the hell life he wants. (So much for free will) 5) We shouldn't judge god by human standards. His ways are higher than ours.
@@Geohovahs_Hand Yep, The Almighty Did done all of that , and i know why , apparently you don't . To die is sometimes a bad thing, but sometimes living a Hellish existence is far worse. It's easy for us to read The Bible and pass judgement on The Almighty , but to study the practices of the Baal worshipers takes a little more homework . Just for your entertainment read about Baal Peor , Baalzeebubb , The Lord of Flies. The Canaanites who worshiped Baal were taken to their judgement , their children were taken to Paradise. Because The Jews refused to obey God;s instructions and never wiped out the Canaanites , The Jews were enticed to intermarry with the Canaanites and began to worship Baal ( Satan) and offer their own children in the fire , and because of this , God sent Nebuchadnezzar to destroy Jerusalem on The 9th day of Av, 586 BC. Again hundreds of years later Jesus told his people that Jerusalem was going to be destroyed again, in their generation, (a biblical generation is 70 years) but this time for different reasons. He told them it would happen in their lifetime , and on The 9th day of Av, AD 70, Titus destroyed Jerusalem, and the Jews were scattered into all the nations of the earth , once again . Deut 30 : 1-4 " After nearly 2000 years of being a dead people The nation of Israel was resurrected from the dead on May 14 , 1948 Ezekiel : 34 : 11-13 Jesus tells us that when we see The Nation of Israel reborn we will know He is at the door " Heaven and earth shall pass away , but my words will never pass away " The King is at the door !! Trust Jesus
Jephthah vowed to sacrifice "whatever" came out to greet him. It seems like he was thinking of an animal, not a person. That would explain why he was so dismayed when it was his daughter who came out to greet him.
Reminds me of that Nonstamp collector Jepthah video. With a lot of the old teatament I find myself asking human or divine? Interesting results when the glasses fall off.
When I point the Jepththah verse out to Christians they reckon he didnt sacrifice her he just exiled her in the mountains.....even though it CLEARLY says that he "carried out his vow"
Really enjoy your take and deep dives on these topics and look forward to more but, how about some kind of background. If you have some type of reading area in your home (I assume you do this at your house(?)) with a comfortable armed reading chair where you could sit, it would be a nice setting to watch these from. Now, if you really wanted to fancy it up, a nice smoking jacket with a pipe in front of a fire place would really be the cat's meow. lol..... Thanks for the work you do for the rest of us to learn from.
That's exactly what I was thinking! Actually, I had to look up her name, I just remembered that Agamemnon sacrificed his daughter to Artemis so she would lay off the grudge and let his troops sail.
@xavi xavi what is this purpose of copyrighting we might ask? Was the 10 commandments copyrighted back in the day? I think copyright is more for the purposes of profit!
When he came back to his hometown and took a position of power, Jephthah probably became the head of his clan - all his half-brothers, their wives and children, servants, slaves. "My house" might have meant "my clan". Also, women were expected to stay at home, and he might expect that the first to greet him would be either a servant/slave or one of his brothers. After all, he was a good soldier, probably in command of some military/quasymilitary force (else he wouldn't be given so much power), but he was an uneducated thug, and thinking was not his forte. But god knew what will happen, yet he accepted the wow and didn't intervene as he did with Isaac, proving once more that he's a real SoB .
Yes, you got It! That's because most only see the physical world brutal existence. The apologists tries to get your mind out of that base level of understanding.
About Jephtah's wife. The daughter of Jephthah is Iphigenia/Jephingenia. The bible story is pilfered from Sumerian and Greek mythology. After Medea, Queen Clytemnestra is probably the most notorious woman in Greek mythology. She is also one of the most magnetic, mesmerizing in her fierce determination to kill the man who killed her daughter. That this man happens to be her husband, and that she chooses to dispatch him in his bath-tub with an ax, makes her a storyteller’s lurid dream. Though there are countless depictions of Clytemnestra in ancient and modern works alike, the most enduring has been that in Aeschylus’ Agamemnon. His Clytemnestra is bloody, bold and resolute, a proud lioness, fiercely protective of her children. After the murder, she does not try to hide or run, but strides victoriously before her people, gore-stained ax in hand, declaring that justice has been served.
One theist ad hoc argument I've heard is this: the kind of houses used during that time period consisted of a house on one side, a stable on the other side, and a connecting structure in between. They'd have animals and people entering and exiting through the same middle structure.
I've debated the Jephthah story with a Christian who squrmed like a fish on a hook trying to sell the idea that "did as he had vowed" _really_ meant "had a change of heart and let her live as a virgin all her days" and the maidens annually "lamenting" the fate of his daughter _really_ meant "visited her for tea and scones". The mental gymnastics and dishonesty of apologists can make the eyes water. But, hey, what's another nameless female in amongst all the _thousands_ that god supposedly slaughtered or supposedly ordered his "chosen people" to slaughter throughout the OT?
Imagine if upon opening the door of the house, a simple housefly comes out and flies unto the wind. Can you imagine Jephthah chasing the fly around to make his word good for the sacrifice? Then God is royally pissed, next day the land is invaded by the entire Philistine armada and the morale several thousand years later is "thou shalt not allowest a fly to fly, lest the enemy occupy thy abode fer yer neglect".
@@harveywabbit9541 You keep saying that but are you honestly saying that you believe the imaginary lines we draw between stars (that are only in that order from our particular perspective, mind you) are living human beings?
@@Khepriem Astrology is useless to science. Unfortunately, some knowledge of astrology/astronomy is vital to comprehending the bible and Quran. All stories in these books are keyed to Ptolomaic astrology and thus must not be considered as historical or geographical. Recommend "Christian Mythology," by Logan Mitchell. This is a very easy read. Also, "Hebrew Mythology," by Milton Woolley is another good one.
Great video, Matt. I'd actually just read this chapter of judges but aside from the fact that a thing coming out to meet him is *at best* going to be a pet and more likely a family member, i hadn't considered that this appears to be an example of god accepting a human sacrifice.
Christians tell me that God's character has perfect integrity; never changing. Contrasting the Abraham story with Jephthah's story disproves that claim, and moreover shows that if in fact God is real, he holds a different standard for men and women yet again.
That wasn't Jesus telling that story. That was a man merely conveying what he thinks God was saying. Unless you heard it direct from Jesus it's not abosolute truth.
@@carolmosher7745 uhm you do realize that EVERYTHING in the bible was written by anonymous sources right?? Dumbass. God Christians really make me cringe
Just so many disgusting angles to that story. I cannot comprehend why any believer would consider such a deity as anything but an abomination. As an atheist, I call it a bloody unconvincing fictional character with less depth than a cardboard Hasslehoff.
Great video and explanation, but I'd very much like you to go into the Stargate Ba'l clones. The Bible would be waaaay better with pyramid starships and time travel. Just saying...
This is a good stab at the story, but if you want to bone up for a debate with a Christian on this story go watch the Jepthah video by The Bible Skeptic. It's the best I've ever seen on this subject.
There's another point to the narrative that I didn't hear you bring up. And it might be something to add. Pre-first century people didn't presume their gods to be all-loving. That's a relatively new idea. Bearing that in mind, this tale should probably read more like "don't make a deal with the devil". Yaweh was more like our version of the devil, than our modern version of a god. But great coverage of the problems with the tale. Thanks for sharing them.
If it wasn't for all the prophecies Jesus supposedly fulfilled and all sorts of origin stories, most modern Christians wouldn't bother including Old Testament in the Bible, mostly because of problematic parts like this one.
gnolex, I'm puzzled as to why Christians think the New Testament is so much better. The Book of Revelation isn't exactly a big improvement over the morality of the Old Testament. And then there's the Atonement, which basically amounts to God saying, "I want to forgive people who repent, but I can't do that without having a human sacrifice first." This doesn't exactly make God look good.
udges 11:3 Then Jephthah fled from his brothers, and lived in the land of Tob: and there were gathered vain fellows to Jephthah, and they went out with him. Jephthah (he will open = the phallus aka baal peor) begins the ancient year at the spring equinox. Tob is the autumn equinox where the sun falls into "sin," the ancient season of winter where there was hunger and starvation. The vain fellows are the winter constellations which symbol evil throughout the holy (sun) book. Tob, the autumn equinox, is opposite Nod, where Cain found his wife (his mother Eve).
I'm exJW. JWs translated in the verse Judges 11:40 "to give commendation to the daughter of Jephthah". They believe she became to serve in Shiloh. But in Septuagint there is a greek word in this verse that means "lamentation". I think ancient Hebrews knew better about meanings of Hebrew words and how they would be properly translated than Jehovah's witnesses
*WHEN DID GOD FIRST ASK FOR THIS DEAL* ? GOD NEVER ASKED FOR THIS. JEPHTHAH IS THAT SUPERSTITIOUS HE WOULD DO IT. THAT INSANE HE WOULD DO IT. A VOW OF MADNESS HE MADE.
Yet yahweh accepted the deal, or else, if it _did not_ want a human sacrifice, it would have caused jephtha to lose. It is supposed to be all knowing and all powerful, after all, and it thinks nothing of violating "free will". No, it let him win or it helped him win so it could smell burning human flesh.
So, Jephthah (the Sun) went against the children of Ammon (the last half of winter); and he smote them from Aroer (nakedness = earth in winter) to Minnith (division = spring equinox). And Jephthah came to Mizpeh (summer solstice) unto his own house, and behold his daughter (Jephthigenia = Iphigenia of the Grecian legend) came out to meet him (Virgo of the zodiac was then in sextile aspect with the Sun). She being his only child, Jephthah exclaimed: "Alas! my daughter, thou hast brought me very low." He then explained to her the nature of his vow, when Jephthigenia said: "Do unto me according to that which hath proceeded from thy mouth "(v. 36), - what Lot did to his younger daughter! Only, said she, "let me alone two months, that I may bewail my virginity," which she was about to lose (v. 37). To her request Jephthah consented, unwillingly no doubt, as it would take him just two months to reach Virgo, when (Sun in Virgo) he would serve her as David, the man after God's own heart, served Uriah's wife! -that is, the Sun would pass through Virgo, and thus offer her as a burnt offering. Thence it became a law (not custom, as in the English text) that the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah (v. 40). Poor Jephthigenia! Milton Woolley
I've always found it odd that old testament teachings are limited to the various moral parables, such as the creation, noah, moses and ten commandments, joshua, etc. But there's not much on why modern churches use psalms as inspirational quotes when they're entire songs and poems. Proverbs, on the other hand, are repetitive references used in passing, similar to the cherry picked manner of psalms. Situational referencing?
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i came out as an agnostic-atheist to my parents a few hours ago... Matt you prepared me well. i had calm logical arguments and must admit i used Slavery and they pleaded “context.” which i shot down quoting the NT. even tho i was calm and told them i was reluctant, was sad to disappoint them, etc, they were not as sad as they were angry. which surprised me. i am unfortunately really alone. i moved from LA to rural NC and my dad is a pastor and well known in the area. he was so angry with me. i’ve always been a daddy’s girl. i’m old enough that i’m ok but i appreciate the Atheist Experience and Matt bc i was well prepared and calmly logical. it ended with “well you’re very intelligent and obviously have studied a lot, but satan has taken over you. god has given you over to a reprobate mind” i said “cool well i’m going out for a smoke. i’m open to discussing further and answering your questions” my mom was furiously googling everything i said on her laptop bc she doesn’t know the bible very well and was checking passages i quoted to her.
good times. i do feel better than i’m not hiding this. also i’m 42.
Amanda’s Umbrella LOL, i came out as atheist to my folks when I was in my 20’s. The last time the subject came up my Mom was about 90 and I was about 65, she told me “You’re just going through a phase”. She died a few months ago at 95 but she never really understood what I am, you just have to love them regardless of their weird beliefs.
Lots of courage on your part.
Amanda's Umbrella, I know it's hard. My parents prayed to have me return to the fold for decades. Good luck.
ExMormon RoverPaula thank you..... ya... it’s definitely not an easy road. what’s funny is they think i left the faith out of disliking church and that i chose the easy decision. i told them it was an 18yr journey. 18years. and i get rejection and feeling raw and lost and alone. ya. that was the easy decision. ha.
How do you reconcile your Atheists beliefs with the incontrovertible scientific evidence for the existence of God? Atheism is really an anti science cult. Which makes its followers look dumb to the rest of the world.
My favorite Bible story never mentioned in Sunday school. It's one of those stories that only get worse the more apologetics get applied
Ha! Jephthah was hoping it would be his mother-in-law
I wish this video was titled "Bible Study with Matt" so I could distribute to my theists without them becoming immediately defensive.
🤣🤣 if only
Certainly a better title.
Oh yeah! That would be a great series!
I thought the same. I would have shown my mom.
Jephthah: "Whatever comes out of my door, I'll burn."
*Reasonable assumption that a person would come out is fulfilled.*
Jephthah: Surprised Pikachu face.
Actually there would be an argument that reasonably it would be expected that first smoke or the smell of cooked food should come out of a door to "greet him"... but how do you give up on that? Never start a fire again? Stop eating?
@@Ugly_German_Truths lol yes, because children never rush out to greet a father that just came back from a military deployment...
Apology: I was wrong about the following statement, KJV does for one, I stand corrected.
Where or what version says" burned". Any reliable version says sacrifice which does not mean burn. There are many ways to sacrifice to the Lord and none of them condone human sacrifice. That was the practice of the pagan nations that became condemned.
@@r4hnsn Where? Really? Uhh yeah, hmm, did you even watch the video? The entire thing and listen? Open your Bible and read it along with him. This stuff isn't being made up.
Well, I suppose your brand of Christianity could have that stuff edited out of its Bibles. Humans do like to write new Bibles after all. Doesn't change it being there in the Jewish and Christian texts it's based off of though.
@@Ugly_German_Truths You can't burn smoke or a smell and what kind of a sacrifice is that? Your assessment of what is reasonable seems more like an ad hoc excuse for pathetic behaviour because you don't want to admit how pathetic and stupid it would have been if the story actually happened. Your explanation isn't rational, realistic nor reasonable.
Both the idiot and his invisible friend knew beforehand that it would be a child.
1. Person asks supernatural entity for favor.
2. Entity agrees with a somewhat misleading, open-ended promise.
3. Promise is fulfilled.
4. Repayment turns out to be a terrible surprise.
Isn't that how "deals with the devil", not God, are supposed to go?
Though to be fair to the guy allegedly upstairs, there was a VERY high chance his daughter would be the first thing to greet him, so he was just being stupid when he made that pact.
I swear, when I get any expendable income, I'll start donating for this content monthly. These videos have helped me more than I can express.
A C Jack John has a God Sounds like you are ALREADY in a dark place, dude. Lose the anger.
@A C Jack John has a God - If you were really concerned that a fellow human being had lost their way and was in risk of damnation, I don't think you'd convince them to listen to you by calling them morons.
@A C Jack John has a God I think you need therapy, not a priest
@A C Jack John has a God
1 : Straight out of the gate, ... " you are a moron ". Is that your " go to " assumption about anyone who does not share your " belief " ?
2 : " Rejecting God " ? That doesn't apply when the God you allege does not present as self evident, free of the " necessity " of belief. I.e. How does one reject what is not in evidence ? What is absent objective proof ? The alleged existence of which can be reasonably questioned and placed in dispute ?
3 : Where do you get off making assumptions about the motivations of the poster you are responding to ? Do you not ever question what appears to be your unchecked habit of speaking from such obvious ignorance ?
4 :" Going to a very dark place " ... is that something you have read somewhere or were told ?
If not, what is the basis of your attempting the suggestion ?
5 : " Where human pos go " ?? I don''t get what you mean here. Please explain.
@@ronaldmendonca6636 I hear there was fire. I like fire. I can make coffee for everyone. I suppose my guitar is fucked with all the heat variance, so that sucks, but the only thing I'm worried about is that there probably will be no cold diet cola, so when Matt joins us, there will be hell to pay.
Spectacularly done. I was rapt for the whole thing. This is one of the stories that horrified me so much when I did the B90 days and read through the whole bible. Reading the bible, by the way, is what made me atheist. Thanks for the video!
The moral of this story seems to be “when making a deal, make sure you get a lawyer.”
Lmao
Or don't make a deal with god
This is my friends favorite Bible story. He insists that Jepthah actually sacrificed his door to God as he never defined what “it” meant in his vow. Pretzels indeed.
skulmarus, it’s incredible how deep the delusions go
Matt, you host the best bible studies I've ever been to
Só God provided a substitute ram for son Isaac, but he let the unnamed only daughter roast.
Well God didn't ask Jephthah to sacrifice anyone, so, from the perspective of the ancient Jews, this one was Jephthah's fault. Basically it's a parable that ancient jews told their kids to teach them not to make foolish promises. Ironically, apart from the end of his story, Jephthah was probably one of the most likeable characters in the old testament. I mean he wasn't a womanizing genocidal maniac like so many others, he tried to make peace before he was forced into war
@SigmaTauri2 Ask yourself why you're so angry with God.
...and your point is ..
Maybe because females are seen as inferior to males
I remember hearing this story in Catholic school and was so shocked when god didn't send an angel to save the daughter.
About Jephtah's wife. The daughter of Jephthah is Iphigenia/Jephingenia.
The bible story is pilfered from Sumerian and Greek mythology. You can still see the daughter in the night skies...she is the Virgo constellation.
After Medea, Queen Clytemnestra is probably the most notorious woman in Greek mythology. She is also one of the most magnetic, mesmerizing in her fierce determination to kill the man who killed her daughter. That this man happens to be her husband, and that she chooses to dispatch him in his bath-tub with an ax, makes her a storyteller’s lurid dream.
Though there are countless depictions of Clytemnestra in ancient and modern works alike, the most enduring has been that in Aeschylus’ Agamemnon. His Clytemnestra is bloody, bold and resolute, a proud lioness, fiercely protective of her children. After the murder, she does not try to hide or run, but strides victoriously before her people, gore-stained ax in hand, declaring that justice has been served.
daughters are expendable.....
@@OctaviaOG Sad but true. The nun told the story very proudly as if to say, see he followed through with killing his daughter for God.
The creative process that the Christian must go through in order to defend child sacrifice is truly inspiring. From an amoral artistic perspective. Lmfao
Corn on the cob Bob
hardly amoral. I'd call it downright immoral.
kevin litton agreed.
When you see how willingly far too many christians let their kids die before they allow a doctor to help them, the mindset still is the same as with Jephthah.
Ugly German Truths or how about the Christians who make decisions for their kids lives and base their decisions in the fear of violating the parameters of their afterlife insurance plan. Many parents metaphorically sacrifice their children’s lives this way.
Please Complete All Fields it is already easy. It’s just self serving confirmation bias and inherently, automatically, unquestionably simply intellectual and moral laziness.
How is it that this chronicle of barbarism is held out as the "good" book? - I read it as a collection of bad horror stories and crude poetry.
What blows my mind, is that knowing her dad would litterly kill her, she still came back instead of running off forever when she had the chance
Iphigenia, daughter of Agamemnon. Flip a few details around, and it's more or less the same story. Artemis was pissed for some reason, and Agamemnon had to sacrifice Iphigenia so Artemis would lay off the grudge and let his troops sail for Troy. And Iphigenia went along with it.
@@BlackEpyon And then the classical Greeks tried to soften it by saying "Oh Iphigenia wasn't really sacrificed! The gods substituted a female deer for her on the altar, and she was magically flown to Egypt and had an absolutely spiffy life." Yeah, and my old dog went to live on a farm.
@@BlackEpyonIIRC, at least Agamemmnon's daughter gets a name as well as her mother Clytemnestra (who is also named in different Greek mythological sources) who actually mourns Iphegenia's death and partially because of this, murders her husband in revenge.
So while both daughter-sacrifice stories are reprehensible, the daugter in Greek myth is given slightly better treatment than the daughter in Judeo-Christian myth
@@Emelefpi The Greek tales are better all around. They were better storytellers.
Love your explanations of these stories! Keep em coming. I study the Bible weekly and it was my study of the Bible that turned me into a skeptic and non believer. I still go to the class but I go to be something of a devil’s advocate. The AE channel has been invaluable Matt. And in the class we rarely move outside of the Gospels and the first five books of the OT.
Abimelech Abimelech Abimelech Abimelech In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight...
Jim Fortune 😂😂
The parts of the Bible no one reads, always the best parts.
Atheists have read those parts, that's a big reason they are atheists.
Thank you! Excellent work Matt👊 I feel very fortunate to have come across this
I really enjoyed this one. Do more stories from the bible.
It's kind of interesting to see the bible being used to solidify my disbelief in a deity. Unfortunately, it took me most of my life to realise this was all a fantasy. Intellectual fun is fun of the highest order, and we see it in action right here.
@@adrianjanssens7116 yes!
This myth has a very similar theme to the story of Idomeneus of Crete who after he had left Troy was caught in a severe storm and made a vow to Poseidon that if he and his ship were delivered from the storm, he would sacrifice the first living creature he saw upon his return home. In this case it was his son. The Greek myth does have different ramifications for Idomeneus- although he fulfilled his vow to Poseidon he is punished by the gods and exiled from Crete.
What annoys me about these stories is that god supposedly knows the future. So he should have known all of this was going to happen in the first place. Yet behaves like it's all a surprise. If this god actually existed, this is one of the most clueless, hapless beings there is.
I love this format! It’s like a Skeptics Bible Study!!! More please??!!
Fact: Matt with glasses is far more credible than Matt without glasses.
A C Jack John has a God What about Aloli? How do you feel about that?
@Chloe and her cat has a God Wow! In a mere seven words, you managed to present an Ad Hominem and a Hasty Generalization; that's _two_ logical fallacies in one gloriously ignorant sentence. If there really is a God, he must just be swellin' with pride.
Best teacher ever.
*Judges **11:39* she returned to her father, who did with her according to his vow which he vowed, and she knew no man.
In what scripture does Jephtha vow to give her to the temple? That apologetic is piss poor.
"open your bibles to..." sent shivers down the spine - memories from guilt tripping bible group visits back in the day as a teenage JW :-O
Been to Planned Parenthood ? Jesus will judge Godless America soon, Repent and trust in Jesus
Another interesting and great video, thank you.
One thing that puzzles me is how can anyone look in the mirror after trying to put a positive spin on stuff like this. To defend God or find the "moral of the story" in favor of their faith.
v0id I’m no bible scholar, or traditional Christian for that matter.. but maybe this was a parable as Jesus speaks of a few times in the Bible. Maybe to teach a lesson about “sacrificing” things and the impact of your word? Just a thought...
It's almost as though, and try to suspend your disbelief for a moment here, the entire story was just made up by a Bronze age misogynist.
Is there any chance that this, and most Bible stories, were intended for the same Bronze Age audience they were written to and contained meanings that they would have understood beyond literal interpretation?
Not just one but dozens and dozens of misogynist writers. Might have been a cultural thing :-p
@@seanhammer6296 No. If bronze age man was too stupid to understand that slavery was wrong, they were too stupid to understand metaphor and allegory.
@@caligo7918 Who'da thought it?!
@@Martial-Mat That's your opinion. Bronze Age philosophers considered the flesh itself to be slavery.
Never, ever thought I would willingly sit through a talk on Jephthah again. Thank you for this.
I followed along on NIV Judges 10 as you explained all of this. Thank you Matt, and cheers from Canada. I once wanted desperately to meet Richard Dawkins. I look even more forward to meeting you.
If Matt doesn't believe in human sacrifice, why does he keep slaying Gman????????
That would be categorizing slaying as sacrificing they are completely different. With slaying you gain some peace of mind. With sacrificing you typically lose something that may be important to you. On the other hand Gman maybe trying to sacrifice his arguments to Matt... XD
It's not a sacrifice. It's a mercy killing
'Cuz G-man keeps stepping up to Matt's swordlike ministrations?
GMan isn't human, so it isn't a human slaying.
Thanks Matt... as usual you put a story from the Bible in its proper context. Love all of your vids.
Whats truly crazy is its 2019/20 and this is still a topic
Matt, we absolutely love your Bible story time!
I thought you sneezed when typing the title. Didn’t even know that was a name
Nonstampcollector made a great video on this story too.
@French Frys me too.. I emailed him and he said he may have some stuff coming out early next year. He said it's not for sure.
@French Frys He made a video about an announcement of a big comeback at the beginning of this year.....then proceeded to make a grand total of.....1 video....so disappointing
@@matthewlewis2223 hes posted a couple of times now that when he started the videos he had alot of free time. But now he has a full time job and kids so he doesnt have the time like he used to.
It's appalling that some people like apologists still defend this insane verse. In this age of civilization this bad idea still pervades. I'm infuriated, sorry.
@Wandaru
There is nothing to defend. The Bible simply records a man who makes a rash vow and the subsequent results.
Today people still offer their children to Baal at Planned Parent hood, how civilized
Because you know, civilization is totally based on nonviolence. civilization has always been nonviolent. no force ever used.
@Hisao Naoki are you a believer in Jesus Christ ?
@boxersnatcher Have you heard what GOV Ralph Northam is doing in Virginia ? , is that Infanticide OK with you ?
Good stuff, thanks for sharing.
This just arrived in my thread..How is it you get access to this vlog 6 hrs before I do ??
@@p.a.f.mitasol8071 I must have prayed harder.
@@TD3DMakes Praise no lord! Hallenojah!
Much appreciated.
On point as usual! Keep going Matt!
Looking forward to more of these.
Yay! My favorite Bible story to round out the holiday weekend! You rock, Matt!
I listened to this video on my commute and I just want to say that you are a great storyteller. It's almost like when you read a kid a bedtime story, only with the way women are treated..nobody is sleeping!🤣
12:40
"...this is what my father was told by his father..."
and his father's father
and his father's father's father
and his father's father's father's father
Something tells me the list is too long to write so I'll do this to help out.
and his father's father's father's father's father's... etc.
@@antiusinferno9396 OP's is a Monty Python reference, I think :) check Life of Brian. Great movie.
@@edfort5704 I have seen the movie just been awhile and yes it is great. Don't remember the scene this part was in though.
Howard M. you come from a long line of Beraters!
Matt, you lost weight, sir. You're killing it.
Thanks the video. I understand that story much better now. And the story of Abraham's sacrifice was a bonus. It makes far more sense if we realize Abraham failed the test. I'm surprised I haven't heard Christians use this interpretation. It makes God look much better than the standard Christian interpretation.
I really appreciate all Matt does and do understsnd the value in videos like this, but do find it disappointing that so much time must be wasted learning more about a fictional book. It isn't a waste of time because I know the good that could come from it though discussions with believers, just find it unfortunate we must also try to understand such a nonsensical book for this purpose.
Went and got my bible, wording may have differed a bit, that said I can't help but agree with Matt's exegesis.
ever said or done anything you regret ? don't make foolish vows, be careful what you say, God never wanted this
@@jwsanders1214 Yours is an absurd rationalization
@@tomlutes3373 Words have power , you will be held accountable for every idle word you speak
@@jwsanders1214 Good, then I'll make them count. You believe in a cruel dictatorial deity that according to your holy book, has committed numerous acts of utter depravity, including the condoning of, or direct killing of, infants for the sins of their fathers, the actions of their kings, or the fact that they were born into the wrong tribe (Genesis 7:23; Exodus 11:4,5; 2 Samuel 12:15-18; Numbers 31:17,18; 1 Samuel 15:3) If he were a human ruler he would be tried and executed for genocide and crimes against humanity. If he is real, then he is a cosmic dick of the highest magnitude, and I would want nothing to do with him.
P.S. If you choose to reply with some crappy Apologetic arguments in response to the cited scriptures, keep in mind I have already heard and will destroy these:
1) Those verses are taken out of context.
2) Those Midianite and Amalekite children would grow up to be evildoers just like their parents, and seek revenge against Israel.
3) All that genocide was necessary to preserve the familial line that would lead to Jesus.
4) Since god is the giver of life, he has the god given right to take whatever the hell life he wants. (So much for free will)
5) We shouldn't judge god by human standards. His ways are higher than ours.
@@Geohovahs_Hand Yep, The Almighty Did done all of that , and i know why , apparently you don't . To die is sometimes a bad thing, but sometimes living a Hellish existence is far worse. It's easy for us to read The Bible and pass judgement on The Almighty , but to study the practices of the Baal worshipers takes a little more homework . Just for your entertainment read about Baal Peor , Baalzeebubb , The Lord of Flies. The Canaanites who worshiped Baal were taken to their judgement , their children were taken to Paradise. Because The Jews refused to obey God;s instructions and never wiped out the Canaanites , The Jews were enticed to intermarry with the Canaanites and began to worship Baal ( Satan) and offer their own children in the fire , and because of this , God sent Nebuchadnezzar to destroy Jerusalem on The 9th day of Av, 586 BC. Again hundreds of years later Jesus told his people that Jerusalem was going to be destroyed again, in their generation, (a biblical generation is 70 years) but this time for different reasons. He told them it would happen in their lifetime , and on The 9th day of Av, AD 70, Titus destroyed Jerusalem, and the Jews were scattered into all the nations of the earth , once again . Deut 30 : 1-4 " After nearly 2000 years of being a dead people The nation of Israel was resurrected from the dead on May 14 , 1948 Ezekiel : 34 : 11-13 Jesus tells us that when we see The Nation of Israel reborn we will know He is at the door " Heaven and earth shall pass away , but my words will never pass away " The King is at the door !! Trust Jesus
Well, I think it's confirmed that Matt is a Stargate geek...great informative video, BTW!
Jephthah vowed to sacrifice "whatever" came out to greet him. It seems like he was thinking of an animal, not a person. That would explain why he was so dismayed when it was his daughter who came out to greet him.
The god of the Bible is crazy!
That could be a great movie title.
Reminds me of that Nonstamp collector Jepthah video. With a lot of the old teatament I find myself asking human or divine? Interesting results when the glasses fall off.
Read Galatians 4:22-31. Take note of Galatians 4:24
"Oh no, my daughter came out from my house to greet me!
Why not that rickety old stool?"
You pulled it off even better than Tyson Fury. Keep up the great work .
Glasses look really good on you Matt!
Dr. Wells
Agree, same as the salt & pepper beard.
When I point the Jepththah verse out to Christians they reckon he didnt sacrifice her he just exiled her in the mountains.....even though it CLEARLY says that he "carried out his vow"
DaveJavoux and why should she have to pay her father’s debt? The whole story is a shit show.
Another excepcional vídeo, Matt. Looking forward to watching your take on the ones to come.
Really enjoy your take and deep dives on these topics and look forward to more but, how about some kind of background. If you have some type of reading area in your home (I assume you do this at your house(?)) with a comfortable armed reading chair where you could sit, it would be a nice setting to watch these from. Now, if you really wanted to fancy it up, a nice smoking jacket with a pipe in front of a fire place would really be the cat's meow. lol..... Thanks for the work you do for the rest of us to learn from.
just a Near Eastern Iphigenia. probably a remnant from an older time of human sacrifice.
That's exactly what I was thinking! Actually, I had to look up her name, I just remembered that Agamemnon sacrificed his daughter to Artemis so she would lay off the grudge and let his troops sail.
I find it strange in itself that the bible is copyrighted when its already copyrighted by God.
ikr.. though I think he would have a good case for 'fair use' on the grounds that it's for educational purposes
Seek help.
Would it not be a sin according to christian standards to own rights on the word of god?
@xavi xavi what is this purpose of copyrighting we might ask? Was the 10 commandments copyrighted back in the day? I think copyright is more for the purposes of profit!
@Alec Alberti so they lifted the copyright statis?
When he came back to his hometown and took a position of power, Jephthah probably became the head of his clan - all his half-brothers, their wives and children, servants, slaves. "My house" might have meant "my clan". Also, women were expected to stay at home, and he might expect that the first to greet him would be either a servant/slave or one of his brothers. After all, he was a good soldier, probably in command of some military/quasymilitary force (else he wouldn't be given so much power), but he was an uneducated thug, and thinking was not his forte.
But god knew what will happen, yet he accepted the wow and didn't intervene as he did with Isaac, proving once more that he's a real SoB .
This is a damn good assessment of this story.
Hell Yesssssssssss
Are apologists called apologists because they have to apologise for all the appalling thing written in the bible?
Yes. And for all the things (their) religion is and does and has done in general.
Bigboy They are apologizing for being such naive, misguided folk.
Yes, you got It! That's because most only see the physical world brutal existence. The apologists tries to get your mind out of that base level of understanding.
If you have any questions about Gods Word , I will be happy to help if I am able
Yes.
Jephthah offered God the law of surprise? I'll toss another coin to my Witcher.
5:21 Stargate reference :D nice
About Jephtah's wife. The daughter of Jephthah is Iphigenia/Jephingenia.
The bible story is pilfered from Sumerian and Greek mythology.
After Medea, Queen Clytemnestra is probably the most notorious woman in Greek mythology. She is also one of the most magnetic, mesmerizing in her fierce determination to kill the man who killed her daughter. That this man happens to be her husband, and that she chooses to dispatch him in his bath-tub with an ax, makes her a storyteller’s lurid dream.
Though there are countless depictions of Clytemnestra in ancient and modern works alike, the most enduring has been that in Aeschylus’ Agamemnon. His Clytemnestra is bloody, bold and resolute, a proud lioness, fiercely protective of her children. After the murder, she does not try to hide or run, but strides victoriously before her people, gore-stained ax in hand, declaring that justice has been served.
Holy hell Matt, Looking good with the weight loss. Stay healthy, Brother.
One theist ad hoc argument I've heard is this: the kind of houses used during that time period consisted of a house on one side, a stable on the other side, and a connecting structure in between. They'd have animals and people entering and exiting through the same middle structure.
@Alec Alberti Well said! I'll have to use that logic next time it comes up in a conversation. :)
I've debated the Jephthah story with a Christian who squrmed like a fish on a hook trying to sell the idea that "did as he had vowed" _really_ meant "had a change of heart and let her live as a virgin all her days" and the maidens annually "lamenting" the fate of his daughter _really_ meant "visited her for tea and scones". The mental gymnastics and dishonesty of apologists can make the eyes water.
But, hey, what's another nameless female in amongst all the _thousands_ that god supposedly slaughtered or supposedly ordered his "chosen people" to slaughter throughout the OT?
Imagine if upon opening the door of the house, a simple housefly comes out and flies unto the wind. Can you imagine Jephthah chasing the fly around to make his word good for the sacrifice? Then God is royally pissed, next day the land is invaded by the entire Philistine armada and the morale several thousand years later is "thou shalt not allowest a fly to fly, lest the enemy occupy thy abode fer yer neglect".
His "daughter," is still alive and well...she is the constellation Virgo.
@@harveywabbit9541 You keep saying that but are you honestly saying that you believe the imaginary lines we draw between stars (that are only in that order from our particular perspective, mind you) are living human beings?
@@Khepriem
Astrology is useless to science. Unfortunately, some knowledge of astrology/astronomy is vital to comprehending the bible and Quran. All stories in these books are keyed to Ptolomaic astrology and thus must not be considered as historical or geographical. Recommend "Christian Mythology," by Logan Mitchell. This is a very easy read. Also, "Hebrew Mythology," by Milton Woolley is another good one.
This was great! Thanks Matt 👍
Great video, Matt.
I'd actually just read this chapter of judges but aside from the fact that a thing coming out to meet him is *at best* going to be a pet and more likely a family member, i hadn't considered that this appears to be an example of god accepting a human sacrifice.
"Grab your bibles..open up to chapter"....I'm OK with that, for these excellent Bible class lessons. 😄
Christians tell me that God's character has perfect integrity; never changing. Contrasting the Abraham story with Jephthah's story disproves that claim, and moreover shows that if in fact God is real, he holds a different standard for men and women yet again.
That wasn't Jesus telling that story. That was a man merely conveying what he thinks God was saying. Unless you heard it direct from Jesus it's not abosolute truth.
@@carolmosher7745 uhm you do realize that EVERYTHING in the bible was written by anonymous sources right?? Dumbass. God Christians really make me cringe
@@mrsasquatch7337 You do realize there is no need for Jesus to write the bible in order for His Words to be Truth?
@@mrsasquatch7337 Does it matter?
@@carolmosher7745 First you have to prove there was a Jesus and he was divine. Good luck zealot!
Thanks Pastor.You increased my faith.
Just so many disgusting angles to that story. I cannot comprehend why any believer would consider such a deity as anything but an abomination. As an atheist, I call it a bloody unconvincing fictional character with less depth than a cardboard Hasslehoff.
Yep, just a personal flavoring of a cardboard cutout character. 😉
@@Sparkbomber but does the cardboard hassellholf have more depth the the original?
And the Lord said to Jepthe... 'Verily, it sucketh to be thou.'
Jephtha fucked his daughter.
More like this please.
Great video and explanation, but I'd very much like you to go into the Stargate Ba'l clones. The Bible would be waaaay better with pyramid starships and time travel. Just saying...
This is a good stab at the story, but if you want to bone up for a debate with a Christian on this story go watch the Jepthah video by The Bible Skeptic. It's the best I've ever seen on this subject.
There's another point to the narrative that I didn't hear you bring up. And it might be something to add.
Pre-first century people didn't presume their gods to be all-loving. That's a relatively new idea. Bearing that in mind, this tale should probably read more like "don't make a deal with the devil". Yaweh was more like our version of the devil, than our modern version of a god.
But great coverage of the problems with the tale. Thanks for sharing them.
It's the evil gods that must be served as they are the threatening ones.
If it wasn't for all the prophecies Jesus supposedly fulfilled and all sorts of origin stories, most modern Christians wouldn't bother including Old Testament in the Bible, mostly because of problematic parts like this one.
gnolex, I'm puzzled as to why Christians think the New Testament is so much better. The Book of Revelation isn't exactly a big improvement over the morality of the Old Testament. And then there's the Atonement, which basically amounts to God saying, "I want to forgive people who repent, but I can't do that without having a human sacrifice first." This doesn't exactly make God look good.
1:40 engaging focal shields
just bad fiction. the premise is so unlikely and silly that the plot twist doesn't even invoke a sense of irony and loss.
udges 11:3 Then Jephthah fled from his brothers, and lived in the land of Tob: and there were gathered vain fellows to Jephthah, and they went out with him. Jephthah (he will open = the phallus aka baal peor) begins the ancient year at the spring equinox. Tob is the autumn equinox where the sun falls into "sin," the ancient season of winter where there was hunger and starvation. The vain fellows are the winter constellations which symbol evil throughout the holy (sun) book. Tob, the autumn equinox, is opposite Nod, where Cain found his wife (his mother Eve).
I'm exJW. JWs translated in the verse Judges 11:40 "to give commendation to the daughter of Jephthah". They believe she became to serve in Shiloh. But in Septuagint there is a greek word in this verse that means "lamentation". I think ancient Hebrews knew better about meanings of Hebrew words and how they would be properly translated than Jehovah's witnesses
Micheal Jordan, Andre Agassi, and Yule Brynner set the bar. Let's also include Telly Savalas.
4:10 can you really get a copyright strike for reading the NIV?
*WHEN DID GOD FIRST ASK FOR THIS DEAL* ? GOD NEVER ASKED FOR THIS. JEPHTHAH IS THAT SUPERSTITIOUS HE WOULD DO IT. THAT INSANE HE WOULD DO IT. A VOW OF MADNESS HE MADE.
Yet yahweh accepted the deal, or else, if it _did not_ want a human sacrifice, it would have caused jephtha to lose. It is supposed to be all knowing and all powerful, after all, and it thinks nothing of violating "free will". No, it let him win or it helped him win so it could smell burning human flesh.
Jephthah's daughter is so insignificant as a person that we don't even get to know her name or if Jephthah's wife is even around during this
Sheesh. This story just keeps getting better and better. At least Agamemnon's daughter had a bloody NAME!
We had that bible story at school. I was horrified and angry at the justification for it.
So, Jephthah (the Sun) went against the children of Ammon (the last half of winter); and he smote them from Aroer (nakedness = earth in winter) to Minnith (division = spring equinox). And Jephthah came to Mizpeh (summer solstice) unto his own house, and behold his daughter (Jephthigenia = Iphigenia of the Grecian legend) came out to meet him (Virgo of the zodiac was then in sextile aspect with the Sun). She being his only child, Jephthah exclaimed: "Alas! my daughter, thou hast brought me very low." He then explained to her the nature of his vow, when Jephthigenia said: "Do unto me according to that which hath proceeded from thy mouth "(v. 36), - what Lot did to his younger daughter! Only, said she, "let me alone two months, that I may bewail my virginity," which she was about to lose (v. 37). To her request Jephthah consented, unwillingly no doubt, as it would take him just two months to reach Virgo, when (Sun in Virgo) he would serve her as David, the man after God's own heart, served Uriah's wife! -that is, the Sun would pass through Virgo, and thus offer her as a burnt offering. Thence it became a law (not custom, as in the English text) that the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah (v. 40). Poor Jephthigenia! Milton Woolley
Ive not watched Matt for a while, has he lost weight?
Quite a bit, he got a diabetic diagnosis and really worked to get the extra weight off.
17:26. DORMAMMU! I’ve come to bargain!
Y'all guys should check out NonStampCollector's video on Jephthah. Good times.
01:53 so basically the Witcher :P
I've always found it odd that old testament teachings are limited to the various moral parables, such as the creation, noah, moses and ten commandments, joshua, etc. But there's not much on why modern churches use psalms as inspirational quotes when they're entire songs and poems. Proverbs, on the other hand, are repetitive references used in passing, similar to the cherry picked manner of psalms. Situational referencing?