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- Competition between Western carmakers and their Chinese rivals is on full display at the German auto trade fair IAA in Munich. Chinese auto firms are accelerating in this global race. Technology and innovation consultant Peter Fintl from Capgemini breaks down this intense rivalry.
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#electriccar #vw #china
Seems China really shocked german during IAA. Never seen dw has to have 3 reports day by day talking about chinese EVs....
Let me tell the truth. Soon German electric cars will not even have a chance to compete with China. Batteries, energy, and patents are sad.
German car is specialist in combustion engine... Let China do their EV .
but I bought a BMW anyway, why? For nostalgia😂
@@balckston Combustion vehicle will soon be history. EV, is cheaper and environmental friendlier.
@@huggybear441
No it won't be so soon... Can last for another 50 years. Current EV 🔋 need a big lap in technology revolution.
No matter how many similarities there are between Japan and China, one difference stands up like a sore thumb: Japan wilted under the US hegemony.
oh really, care to explain?
Yeah. China is a big inspiration to the developing world because unlike Japan they refuse to become a puppet or succumb to pressure from western countries.
@@neothaka Seriously. You need an explanation?
Sorry. I, nor anyone, can wake up someone who pretends to sleep.
Are you sure? Japan is a free Country. And it’s industry was for a longtime very successful on the US market. I do not see any hegemony…
@@markuscasper9498 "Free" is such a cliche thrown around whenever any country refuse to become a vassal of the west or accept their cultural imperialism. The funny thing is that those that think they live a "free" country are the ones that complain everytime, have very low happiness index than Chinese people which are said to be supposedly "oppressed" 🤣
Although the Germans may not be happy---the Chinese cars participating in this exhibition are all models that have been on sale in the Chinese market for a year or more.The Chinese do not think it is necessary to bring more advanced and technologically advanced models to the exhibition.
In fact,the intensity of competition in China's domestic auto market far exceeds that in Europe.The challenges that Chinese automakers encounter in the European market are basically from racial and political issues,and almost none from technology.
In China, last year's EV model is already ancient history. That's how fast the industry is growing and changing in China, it's mind boggling.
First they complained about how chinese companies worked with volkswagen for their technology. Now years later they complain about how volkswagen works with chinese company for their technology. Bunch of clowns
Rise munchers stole alot of manufacturing tech from the west. Maybe it's time to treat the pingpong IPO the same way.
Not only in EV, China is also successful in the tunnel boring machines which they take up 70% of the world market. Germany used to dominate in this market, but the Chinese entry has lowered the price tag which the west can hardly complete. In the fields of construction machinery China repeats the success story, Liebherr lacks behind China's XCMG and Putzmeister was absorbed by Sany
XCMG is from my hometown
also cranes for ship building and containers....
I guess probably cus China is now building roads, tunnels etc. on an faster lvl than Europe did especially after WW2. Germany needed all thous brands like MAN and Putzmeister to rebuild its country, first after WW2 then after 1990 when Eastern Germany joined. I mean now in Europe is quite common to see Korean made heavy trucks and construction cars.
German TBM companies leaked of technical services if a machine broke down only German company technicians would allow to inspect and fix. There was an incident happened in China 2007 a TBM broke down and under the contract Chinese engineers were forbidden to look and touch the machine which the project had delayed a few weeks and the service charges were huge too ! Two boys' fights from Germany + $ 1000 usd /day each + 5 star hotel and meals and only work 9 to 5 + no weekends. So,the Chinese government was pissed.....now you know the rest of the story. New Chinese TBM have 7/24 5g online service to its Head Quarter Engineering Dept monitoring each operating machine data.
heard story about this, the germans sold tunnel boring with exorbitant price to the Chinese, then when it need services, the germans against charge exorbitant price, and when not long after the services, the tunnel boring broke down again, the germans didn't want to take responsibility, so the Chinese simply made its own tunnel boring
More and more affordable cars in the market, which is a good news for all consumers.
China have talents in ALL sectors not just in space exploration and moon landing ( like India which is more focussed in prestige)
India is also having all sector but they went to USA and Europe for their opportunity. USA and Europe only doing that tech things becoz of Indian. China is now developed and having opportunities in their country itself. India is developing and it takes around 10 to 15 years to be like China.
@@irose4066 Yes and climbing to the head. They want to influence them from within, that's why!
@@irose4066india will never be like china 15-20 years. Our politics still in the barriers of religion, hate etc. Only cronies are developing here. Govt data gives us the idea, still 800 million people are still dependent on government's free rationing scheme. Internet was doing better in some last years but it doesn't mean that prosperity comes with it.
India will become the next China. And when it does, the West will use the same tools to bludgeon it.
Be happy to see competition so that users have a variety of choices and are not bothered by high prices. But everyone also knows that if its products are not possible to compete with competitors, given a national security excuse, product share can be increased.😊
It wouldn't be long before cars are classified under national security items in North America and Europe...😂
@@Libochseeing how insecure America is I wouldn't be so sure 😂😂
Can’t wait to see how no country on the planet will be able to handle the energy requirements of electric vehicles in the next few years, while their electric grids burn to the ground in the process… 😂
@@MikeOxlong- 75% of all cars in Norway are EVs. I am not sure about China, but read news report that 35% of their new are are EVs. Looks like they are doing fine, so far...
Compete all you want. If the CCP is on your side, you'll win.
What is missing from this whole debate is that none of the car manufacturers were able to make a car with profits except BYD and Tesla.
li auto google it :)
And they do ?
if you google you would know :)@@rodmarker2071
@@rodmarker2071, in brief, yes. BYD has started to barely make profits. Tesla is selling those cars for one of the highest margins in the entire car industry. It has to do with manufacturing numbers and techniques.
Everyone else is currently making a loss.
@@ThalanorThornhale BYD has whole airport landing strip size carparks of cars produced but not sold. And that makes a profit ??? The batteries explode .
I would even travel as passenger in a chinese car.
without cheap energy, German industries are doomed
From what I hear on the other channel the Swiss Bank has made a detailed analysis of BYD's Dolphin model by taking apart piece by piece and comes up with the conclusion to build the same model car in exact specification, it costs 35 % extra so what does that tell you as they need to make an investment decision for their clients.
If you're serious, buy a plane ticket to China, with over 50% tram coverage in first-tier cities, and a lot of brands to choose from between $30,000 and $50,000 that sell very well. Tesla and BYD are starting to turn a profit after a long period of losses. Quality is another topic, go look at sales of electric buses and electric cabs. Germany has the best fuel cars, but the world change accelerated after Germany lost its pipeline. Germany has lost cheap energy, and to give up the partnership is to give up decades of lucrative markets. German and Chinese car companies have different strengths and it is still not too late to cooperate.
German expertise is in internal combustion and associated drive train. They have been left far behind the EV race.
Even worse Germany lacks the minerals and the energy to make competitively priced EVs. It has no gas or oil, it has no lithium, copper or nickel.
Thanks for providing a fair discussion regarding the progress of EV vehicles globally. I like how the emphasis isn't necessarily the battle but more of a cooperation that can help more people in the world adopt more environmentally friendly vehicles. Thanks for the report!
Tesla started building its Shanghai factory in Jan 2019 and started the assembly lines in Dec. 2019. One million EV's
were built between Dec. 2019 to Aug. 2022 . And another one million were built From Sept. 2022 up to early Sept. 2023 .
Most of the German Car companies are working together with their China partners at present in this race .
BASF Germany energy cost is at least 4-5 times higher than BASF China ! Europe has to find a way to De-risk
from the US, in order to stay competitive .
>> BASF Germany energy cost is at least 4-5 times higher than BASF China ! Europe has to find a way to De-risk
This is no surprise to me, German auto makers drag their feet as long as possible to halt & delay this process & now they have to pay the price
It was almost ten years ago, I was lucky to have a chance to join an event hosted by the Audi executives in Barcelona. I test drove their self driving prototype electric A7and it was amazing. They also gave us a lecture about their visions of the EVs, very impressive. But as we all know, none of those happened. 😂The times have approved that German corps are not as innovative as they advertised.
China and Germany are not boxing in the same category. China is in the heavyweight, Germany is in the featherweight.
China is crushing it in terms of quality and price. The Era of expensive and over-priced german engineering will die out if they don't compete on price.
Its just a matter of time before China is leader in every sector terms of sales.
Its just the nature of Capitalism, people crave cheap quality stuff, and China has half a century of expertise in just that.
China has played the long game... inviting high tech western companies into China with the lure of cheap labour.... thereby allowing lower production costs and higher profits. All the while, China was learning (and stealing) technology and creating parallel companies to replicate the same products. China has also been strategic in securing supplies of the raw materials needed for these industries. Now China has the skills and materials needed to meet - if not exceed the western companies.
The mantra of Capitalism has shot itself in the foot.
@@bunyip7343don't be afraid. Since now the Chinese car manufacturers are ahead in technology, we can invite them to Europe and steal their technology. Payback time. 😂
copycat
And some said government planning is inefficient and does not work.
@@LibochWest don't good at stealing, not everyone could master it to such degree of perfection easily
ICE cars going obsolete which many countries are phasing out. New trends are EV cars. Buyers prefer affordable, quality EV over branded ones.
China used to buy German TBMs. . . too expensive. . The Germans don't cut prices at all. .
Eventually we plan to build our own. . The Germans said when they found out. "I give you the blueprint. You can't make it either." .
result. . We made it.
The same is true in the automotive field.
Electric car should not be expensive, because of simplicity of it ! Battery + Electric motor + computer - thats it
they deserved outcome similar to speed train story. Most of Euro countries is sunset without new idea compare old day Nokia, Alcatel, Airbus, ERC, Seimen etc.
Thanks for reporting
I am sorry my German brothers and sisters but looks like game is over for German cars though I love having one.
Why so pessimistic? Isn’t this what motivates German car companies? If we collectively surrendered when Tesla landed in China, there would be no BYD.
The German auto industry can do all the same things as the Chinese auto industry, nothing is stopping them, but unfortunately the German auto industry is still mostly focused on squeezing the ICE a bit longer even though the writing is on the wall to change directions. But don’t underestimate the German auto industry!
Maybe too late. What about batteries & related raw resources such as lithium? Both are already dominated by China. Software is also German's weakness.
German cars are overated now, too expensive, less 10 years they are done
7:10 funny thing in that graph is, both the Chinese and German EV exports to a large extents are the locally manufactured Teslas...
It’s fair and normal that Germany fall behind Americans
Yes its in case of Germany, but not in case of China.
Not for China.
The Chinese are way ahead in EV.
And they've got the RnD and manufacturing base.
But where are the machines that makes those cars are made, and the control circuits?
2025 is still early, electric cars are just starting to show their growing pains
Will it be on pay per view
German car makers only concentrated in high end market.
For commoners like me, there is no chance to even smell german cars in my lifetime.
I am driving japanese cars since birth and now its inevitable that my next upgrade will be chinese made ICE car or EV
you haven't lost much
given the climatechange with the weather catastrophes i would like to have a car that is fireproof and can swim.
If you can afford to, why not. There are apocalyptic geared vehicles😅. Not everyone will afford to survive.
Buy a yacht..... but be careful not to park in hurricane/cyclone/monsoon prone areas.... hmmmm there was a barely good movie about this. Waterworld (not Kevin's best effort).
防火还做不到，但BYD真的有可以游泳的车
No German Carmakers are well ready for EV markets. They will lose their positions in the car industry.
Just go test drive the MG4 XPower, you will see the true picture. You get a super car for the price of peanuts, who could resist that?
Les voitures allemandes, certes très bien sous beaucoup d’aspects, sont bien trop chères. Et encore l’euro sous côté par rapport à sa vraie parité , autrement ces voitures seraient hors de prix
10:08 The despair of the lady stating that "young people deciding to buy a new car" in urge to save the industry 🙄
The EU must prevent Chinese cars coming in. Tariffs are essential. And also the EU must prevent the UK exporting cars with significant Chinese content....even if superficially coming in cars with Opel, VW or BMW badges.
Absolutely. The EU Commission is already working on it.
China will ban the supply of rare metals to the EU. the price of a German electric car will not be competitive on the world market
Question - where is all the lithium gonna come from for all these cars for the next 50 or so years?
We will transition away from lithium batteries. Also, there's actually more than enough lithium available. It just varies in how easily accessible it is.
@@harmless6813 if there was more than enough class 1 A lithium available Tesla would not be requesting anyone that has it to contact them and they will setup a contract to buy it
@@harmless6813to cobalt or magnemese or something * I can't recall ???
What's long term solution??
@@mkodyglobalsouthsoldier If I knew I'd be rich. There are several new technologies that are being worked on. We will see which one will win.
Just search for "new battery technology" for some candidates.
The South American Lithium Triangle is the popular source at the moment. The water exploitation during the long refining process is dramatic.
I would never buy a car manufactured in China. Chinese products are substandard. We know this well in America. Because we get millions of parts from China that are defective. I work in a factory and we all know when it says made in China it will be of substandard quality.
There are so many Western products manufactured in China and they are not substandard. Pianos, appliances, and also expensive cars now like the Lotus SUV and sedan coming out, Polestar cars, the Volvo S90, and the quality is not substandard and in fact is excellent. Yes, there are some cheapo substandard Chinese products but they can make substandard to state of the art products.
The Three Body has told the truth, weakness is not an obstacle to survival, while arrogance is.
GERMANS AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY SHOULD MOVE TO INDIA LIKE TESLA AND TAKE UP COMPETITION WITH CHINA. OTHERWISE THE GERMAN CAR INDUSTRY RISKS BEING NO MORE.
Most of TV reports never ever entered or drived an Chinese car. The only issue with Chinese cars is suspensions ( not as good as the Bosch ones ). By price and desing, u have ones who are more expansive like Zekr ( very good ecar, has 3D camera visualisation while parking, so perfect for an pragnent wife in an megacity) BYD is classical, many kinds. Almost everyday I go to work, I order an taxi in Beijing, most are electric ones. The leather smells a bit bad in some ecars. But when its about speed, navigation and price its really understandable why to buy it. Europe does not have that many charging points like in China for Ecars. Also, chinese billionares and rich people cant easily take they money to an off shore island and make some partyies so they have an new fashion, to open ur own car company, thats an token u need to have. Im quite young, but I know when Japanese and Korean cars arrived in Europe they are made fun of😂, what about now? Same will be with Chinese cars, but tbh they dont need European market cus, in China culture is to buy new car not second hand, so when u see an stockpile of white cars "not sold" lol man they are second hand. While in Europe especially Eastern Europe, rarely someone can afford and first hand car. Buick who is an american brand for example, lives only to please chinese market, and buick is quite popular in China. Fac is, more and more young people buy chinese cars or ecars for two reasons ( e cars get licence plates faster, second: noone much cares what you drive as long as u have a car in Beijing or any top tire city in China). Whats the future? I guess EU will ban many chinese cars to enter its market just as it is for the ebikes. Here an new ebike costs loke 600€, can go cca 80 km/h. Why would an european be given to buy an ebike for 600€ or an new ecar for 10ooo€ ? Right? Its better to go get a loan and buy mercedes. Oh yes, do you knoe guys that Mercedes in China makes lower lvl quality cars than in Europe? So mercedes in China, u pay more cus of tax, and get less. Except amg, that one is an real deal. Russias market already let 红旗🚩 red flag carbrand to enter its market ( that car looks as dope as an RR). I dont think Germany can afford to make cheaper cars than China, as an worker in Germany, in an car plant how much do u get? Yes more than in China, but in China, tire 2 or tire 3 cities u can live very nicely for 400/500€. DW really does bad in recent years covering China. Beijing is full of Germans after the pandemic... but ofc by the media u would not believe. Many German Universities have joint degree programs.
What matters is what works over many years - look at Chinese military weapons that do not work - their EV will not work after the warranty period!!! Wake up.
I assume u compare them to the NATO ones, well then tell me why Soviet made weapons still are around Ukraine. IDK what are you hungry about, u wanna test does an rocket work when fired on your house from where u dump these comments or what. If u guys are hungry and wanna test Chinese or Russian weapons, go ahead and join Ukraine. So have u ever been to China or u are just another bot who thinks he knows everything just cus u watch CNN and BBC. @@atlaspath5803
@@atlaspath5803 Hope EU also think that way, Chinese EVs are rubbish, dont' care about it. Target the Tesla, which the EU should be worried.
If someone buys a car $20,000 instead of $50,000, isn't that person going to save $30,000 and spend that balance on other commodities in the market? I think as human beings we need to think the success of one as the success of all.
For example, Nikola Tesla shared his knowledge in alternating current technology, almost free to the rest of the world, even though, Edison wanted to prevent the adoption of AC technology.
Jolly good! We have more advanced technologies and cost effective EVs in the market. 👍
Citizens lab to ask people what they want? "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said a faster horse." - Henry Ford. It only really works to observe people and understand their needs, that and ask them what they don't like about their current car, then put them in a better car like a Tesla and ask them what they like. Customers are only rarely going to suggest something new that's a good idea.
"Our job is to figure out what [the customers] are going to want before they do … to read things that are not yet on the page.” - Steve Jobs
EV's and cars in general are wayyyy overpriced. Bring on the competition to bring the prices down!
The only way they can survive is to make EV at affordable price instead of something twice expensive than conbustion engine cars.
Yes to a point - but then fuel is FREE (at home)
@@joso7228 you have to invest solar panel first and summer time maybe enough to charhe a bit of EV but not during the winter time. Especially for countries like UK.
VW exemplo peças frágeis, no Brasil, nós temos LOGAN 1.6 8 válvulas, ano 2009 , nunca quebrou peças , 160 mil kilometros
German cars were good and well built but now so are the cars from other makers including Chinese cars. That’s what happens when you open factories in China they learn how to design and build cars for themselves and then export there cars to Europe.
Ten years ago, I went to China, all taxi using VW.
Now Chinese car most the designer from europe
That’s game change now.
I believe in German products. You talking about it is encouraging German companies to work harder. 🇺🇸 🇺🇦
Comment section of medieval Europe. 🤣🤣🤣
To see germany future, look at its cars..
The Chinese manufacturers stole the EV IP from US, and that’s why US can’t build the EV battery now. Incredible India!
The Chinese copy and steal everything.@JackSmith-uy9cf
Rivalry, threat... This channel is pure sinophobia.
Isn't funny that Tesla is not a threat or a rival in the videos from this channel?
Tesla is on a different level. You think Tesla is your competitor when you can't even beat China...
The CCP floods its own people. What will they do to you?
Buy a Chinese EV at your own risk. It can blow up like fireworks.
This year's IAA is like the report card for every country's COVID policy. Now we know the West seems to have slept through the pandemic, while China have advanced.
Oh dear
Too much crying from Germany. If you want to stay competitive, you have to improve yourself, work harder and develop better products than Chinese. This is how capitalism and free market works.
>> This is how capitalism and free market works.
@@tooltalkChina doesn't believe in that because Schultz from Munich says so.
if Germany buying energy 10 time more expansive from his alliances then how they can compete with China with buys same with discount :))
和中国合作，合作共赢。就像大众在中国赚到很多钱。
BMW cut the price of i3 hugely and now is almost 100k yuan cheaper here than 3 series
And nobody understood what the german auto maker were saying because they spoke only german!..... they take pride intheir language 😅😅😅😅😅😅 except of course when americans or the British are there 😅😅😅😅
Isn't it that the VW EV are made in China? Or. Built with Chinese battery?
German electronics in cars have been weak traditionally. I have owned both mb and bmw hybrids. Absolutely horrendous in terms of reliability.
What matters is what works over many years - look at Chinese military weapons that do not work - their EV will not work after the warranty period!!! Wake up.
13:10 this goes to show that china had already shifted into a tech industry instead if manufacturinng
Germany car maker have no competitors in 80s 90s 2010s in china,30 years
There are so many copies of the German cars like Porsche. EV models are the first copies manufactured by GWM seen everywhere in world. With huge manufacturing capacity at a cheaper price, along with monopoly in the mining rights for lithium in Congo with not cost of R&D will kill the market of IC engines sooner than later impacting the European and the American cat industries. Without R&D investments in any of the fields including space, china is setting up space station, should make the US realise the leakages to their intellectual property rights!
I hate when the Anglo Saxon cannot compete ~ they take the easiest approach to start accusations of “price subsidies” = which countries is not offering prices incentives for EV industrialisation n adoption.
The answer why European car manufacturers cannot compete ~ very simple “ The Chinese work harder for more productiveness to deliver faster product penetration with market width and depth.
Whilst the Chinese are working 996, the Germans r seeking a balance work life for more family time.
What is 996 ~ Alibaba “ 9 am to 9 pm and 6 days a week”.
What rivalry?🤣 Germany already lost. Thanks to canselor - pirate🤡🤡🤡
I trust German and Japanese more than Chinese.
Fyi even toyota and vw use byd battery
It's okay.......Please remember don't buy Chinese-made products....Let China-made collapse....
I am afraid your mouth talks this but do differently always looks for China-made products.....
If u r star useing Chinese car then u can understand what is the difference between that.
but can everyone afford them?
I trust russian gas more than american gas
"You snooze, you lose". And German carmakers are still in deep sleep. Japanese? Comma. LOL.
China is the Future of EV Cars. Germany is the past of ICE Cars.
More vacation time for 20yo workers.
$100m dollars ALL footballers.
$Gucci! $Dior! $Prada! $LouisV!!!
That's how you compete with China.
德国毫无创新，跟不上时代
Respect to China
🙈🙈🙈
the jurnalist look full of prejudice on china
How can so many people be so ignorant about this carbon neutral lie. We as people as made from carbon, we exhail carbon, plant's need carbon to grow, more carbon available less water is used by plant's.
Chinese work 996, heard of that? German work hours is nowhere near 996
China is way ahead of Germany in terms of electrical cars. Only Tesla is probably better. German cars are too expensive for most of the world and are too hard and expensive to maintain. Japanese hybrids are still the best when it comes to reliability, quality, fuel efficiency and they're very easy to maintain
Personally, I would rather have a German car, but face the facts. German cars are not good value like the VW Beetle once was, they are overloaded with gadgets and little luxuries.
Try just making a simple car option so people can choose the level of complexity they can handle. 😵💫
How far behind vw in China? byd sold 270000 new energy cars in August, vw did a little over 10000 after steep discount! In China vw is the untrustworthy rookie in ev industry. Tell you very far behind.
Guys... in Europe labors have different salary and their rights, in Europe working patent laws.
In China no labors rights, no normal salary, i don't talking about patent laws... every technology is stolen and copy.... European union should protect his market from Chinese products...
Then EU should stop promoting themselves as free markets. 😂
The anchor seems unwilling to accept the fact that Chinese EV manufacturers produce superior products at lower costs. Wake up! German manufacturers are lagging behind. Partnering with the Chinese is a smart move to catch up!
China has 20 times more engineers, why can’t they be better in something than Germany?
>> China has 20 times more engineers, why can’t they be better in something than Germany?
@@tooltalkhahahahahaha
What rivalry???? German car makers are paying billions to Xpeng and other small Chinese EV startups to use their technology and software.
He makes it seem like Chinese manufacturers are catching up in the first part, while it are in fact the German manufacturers that are behind
I checked . true
German executives held the entire industry and Germany itself back for over a decade.
Its the arrogance of europeans..they think they at creators of everything,but go round and steal everything
@@luyaowang7811
Of Jun 2
Too right. They live in a cave. They don’t even know what’s been happening in China.😂 There’s just no competition, not Tesla not the German makers. That’s why VW EV moved and setup their design team to China.
Here in Brazil, Volswagen is only talking about electric cars for the next two decades without any practical action, while Chinese brands such as BYD and GWM are starting to take over the market.
Let me tell the truth. Soon German electric cars will not even have a chance to compete with China. Batteries, energy, and patents are sad.
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@@indiasuperclean6969got the point super irony 🤣
there 2 big problems germany does not have enough engineers to parallel the ev production withe the classic combustion second it`s behind battery tech compared with china or usa but the part with the design is an astute absurdity germany is probably number 2 or 3 in the world in the field of power electronics
@@raygao1409 He is not Indian, he is a troll from China or Pakistan or some country that has beef with India.
Who would think that Germany would be worry about competition from Chinese automakers in Europe! Completely unthinkable 10 years ago.
How is this.unthinkable ？ It's destined
@@chengyanslc You honestly thought 10 years ago that German Auto makers would be worry about Chinese competition in Europe?
@@bobcharles7716German carmakers didn't even take Tesla seriously 10 years ago, let alone Chinese car makers.
@@xet869that is very very true. They thought Telsa was a joke. I was one of the people who thought that too.
I must confess
Not only German, but also we Chinese wouldn’t expect that. It’s like just one night that everyone here in China started to buy Chinese car. You know Chinese ppl used to dislike Chinese cars and worship German cars. It’s like carved deep into the bone thing. But just in a short span of time everything has changed. Unbelievable
DW you can use one common title for all coverage about China: Germany and the EU should be worried about anything China does and doesn't do, period.
当他们竞争不过时，他们对中国就会产生仇恨。这其实是可以理解的，因为中国的产业升级确实会对所有发达国家的产业造成威胁。发达国家粉碎机的称号不是浪得虚名。
That's about it.
Exactly, and this bald yapper is absolutely clueless about the real and relevant important issues… and a silly chynese cheerleader…
😂
Doublethink
But world's largest battery maker is in China..... Tesla also use China-made battery .....how ?
By having a gigafactory in China
Simple , use solar panels for car, revolution
@@mengreat6982just no
Since Dec 2022, CATL has already started battery production in Germany. It is building another factory in Hungary.
Volkswagen owns 25% of Gotion High Tech, a Chinese EV battery manufacturer. GHT has announced it has acquired a 25% stake in a Slovak EV battery start-up. This start-up will manufacture EV battery for the European market.
@@mengreat6982the top 10 solar panels manufacturers are all from China😂
With gone of cheap energy from Russia to Europe, i don't see how Europe especially Germany could compete with China, when China can now access as much as possible cheap Russian gas and oil.
Europe did this to them selves folks.. 😔
可以说德国的经济严重依赖俄罗斯的廉价能源和中国的市场，这就是经济原理无关政治。但是德国人面对北溪被轰炸，却能保持沉默，简直不可思议。德国已经从独立骄傲的国家变成了美国的殖民地。
Volkswagen ID3 sells for 16,000 euros in China and 37,000 euros in Europe
Is it a problem with the Chinese government?
Is it a Volkswagen problem?
Is it a problem with the German government or the EU?
I bought VW ID4 last year but felt a bit regretful because NIO SUV is more expensive than ID4, otherwise we would rater to take NIO instead of ID4. Pls don't feel hurt. My last car is Honda Vezel. And maybe my next car will be a Chinese brand which I'm pretty sure. Changes are quite huge and faster here in China than you can image. Hold it tight, ladies and gentlemen.
What matters is what works over many years - look at Chinese military weapons that do not work - their EV will not work after the warranty period!!! Wake up.
@@atlaspath5803哈哈哈哈😂
还在睡觉💤？
@@atlaspath5803That's why my brother is burning modern German tanks with his brigade. For each fascist tank, the state pays a bonus to the soldiers. I could show you hundreds of photos and videos, but TH-cam really doesn’t like footage of burning Ukrainians in fascist tanks, the videos are deleted very quickly by TH-cam moderators, and to be precise in the wording, by the moderators of Uncle Sam, your master. You’re not even an independent country, but a satellite of the will of the United States 😊😊
Why can’t DW see EV as an opportunity of collaboration rather than life and death rivalry?
because DW stand with US not Germany
德国大众已经取得中国小鹏汽车的一部分股份，并合资建厂
This news report is just dripping with the anxiety of lost dominance that basically summarizes the Western view of China. We have been dominant technologically for the past several hundred years. Now that is changing and this is unacceptable!"
Now the tables will be turning in other respects also. As German/European exports die out, I expect Europe will start demanding localized production in Europe from the Chinese manufacturers or else they will face tariffs. Just like China has been doing for many years and still does. Maybe they should even demand partnerships with European companies and forced transfer of technology. Pay back time
@@curioussand1339 yeah, China set the precedent of this. It is an option for China to sell in Europe