Luke or Lea Skywalker find a child of Ventress and train her to defend and protect an orphanage of newborn and very young force sensitive children, Luke and Lea are in no position to care for these children. Ventress's daughter as mother protector of these children as they deal with very flawed adults,
I wasn't a fan of her when the show first started but as her story arc progressed I understood her more and grew to become one of my favorite characters much like obi-wan precived her
She wasn’t evil, she was simply damaged and never got to heal from the trauma. She and Anakin are examples that most monsters aren’t born…they are made by monstrous circumstances. While Palpatine is the rarer example of a monster that was born. He was a psychopath before ever becoming a Sith.
Its Sad that Obi-wan could display enough sympathy towards Ventress' situation to comprehend the reasons for which she turned to the dark side to ultimately forgive her, but failed to do the same with Anakin, who Kenobi simply saw as evil, and turned a complete blind eye to his inner conflict.
She is a criminally underrated character. Watching her arch on dathomir for the first time and seeing how there was never a point in her life where she wasn’t subservient to someone else or had a “master” was tragic but it explained so much about her. And she’s a badass
Ventress is one of the best characters ever. The relationship with Obi-Wan, her kinship with Ahsoka, her deep and complex personal damage, her drive, and her skill and abilities... Were she ever able to deal with her personal pain and suffering, she could have become one of the greatest force users in the galaxy. She was immensely clever but never learned emotional control which he various antagonists used against her time and again. She was trained in saber dueling by the greatest duelist in Jedi history. She could handle dueling both Anakin AND Obi-Wan at the same time. Palpatine saw her and Dooku as a rising threat and offered Dooku to kill her. Dooku didn't want to... he had become fond of her and for a moment thought about taking her and going to confront Palpatine. He ultimately decided it was a losing bet as neither of them were ready for such a task and with his own life now hanging on the balance did what he felt he had to and turned on her. His fondness of her being the proof in his mind he couldn't do what was necessary to defeat his Master. Of course I'm injecting a tiny bit of my own hypothesizing in the gaps but it's all based on real story. Ventress never had a home. Every parental figure she had aside from her Jedi master used, abused, and discarded her. Every time she found a home it would be destroyed, taken away, and betrayed or cast her out. She never had a friend who didn't die or betray her. She truly was a tragic character. Under all her anger, fear, and suffering there was kinship, loyalty, even kindness... Despite her dark masters best efforts, she had never been fully corrupted. She wasn't loyal out of fear. She wanted her masters to be proud, grateful, to be endeared to them. Had the Jedi not been so sanctimonious and arrogant during her time, she could have become one of the greatest among them. I know there are stories that indicate how she met her end but to be honest I'd like to see her make an appearance in the Mandalorian or the Ahsoka show...
Her character arc was already ended once prior Disney era(though with some room being left for her eventual return) so they could simply decide to do it again.
That's not a tiny bit of your own hypothesising; it's the truth. You're entirely correct in that there was a Ventress-sized gap between Dooku and Sidious, which is... not a small gap. Ventress still needed time before she and Dooku together could truly defeat Sidious, but Sheev being the brilliant schemer that he is noticed this instantly. Dooku, who joined the Sith not for power but for change and reformation, calculated that he still needed Sidious and that duelling him at this point would be a mistake. He therefore fell out with Ventress, which is just what Sidious had planned. This is also what ultimately drove the nail into Dooku's coffin, which is why he never again thought to challenge Sidious and remained his loyal little patsy until his end.
Per canon, Ventress gets killed by Dooku’s force lightning as she tried to protect Quinlan Vos…..so, no chance to see her beyond the Clone War era. This is from Star Wars: Dark Disciple a cannon book by Christie Golden
especially considering he made an enemy for himself and if he wouldve been honest she prob wouldve understood and remained an unofficial ally to Dooku.
Another of the times when the force failed her. Like when her first Master was killed. Life had nothing but negativity to show her, of course she went to the Darkside.
Personally I feel like she should never have been killed off. I love her character I think she started to show real development in her actions and mindset but the end I for one would have loved to see her and Ahsoka Tano meet up again in say, the Mandorla or or appear in one of the movies, or even the Darth Vader comics. She has a lot more to give and I don't think she got a fare end to her story
With Disney’s retconning of many books in the past year, it’s plausible that she could return. Note that Cad Bane was supposed to die prior to Order 66, and he showed up in the Bad Batch.
@@JustinKase1969 like what? Certainly nothing that big. All they’ve ever gone back on are minor details that don’t really impact the overall story of any particular character eg the color of Ahsoka’s lightsabers when she buried them or the details of how Kanan experienced Order 66.
What a great analysis! The episode where Ventress dipped into becoming a bounty hunter and her arc with Ahsoka working together on Coruscant are one of my favourite episodes of The Clone Wars.
@@JosephHandibode it’s not about how good of a fighter you are it’s about how good of a person you are and obi-Wan had a big heart. Being good and just is the Jedi way. Being forgiving is the Jedi way. Regardless of how evil somebody perceives to be just because they perceive to be evil from the outside don’t Mean they’re not hurting from the inside.
@@JosephHandibode Obi-Wan was a way better Jedi Master then Anakin Anakin turn to the dark side Obi-Wan never did and without Obi-Wan Anakin never would have been a Jedi
Obi-Wan is considered to be a prime example of what a Jedi *should* be. Kind, compassionate, caring, composed and willing to help others at the cost of himself. Sure, he had a couple moments of weakness, such as when he had to fight maul after he killed Qui-Gon, and when he had to confront Anakin on Mustafar. But for what it's worth, for intents and purposes, he is a perfect example of a Jedi Knight.
Makes sense when Anakin came after her to find out the truth about the temple bombing when they're fighting she yells "leave me alone" i always found that sad like she was saying im so tired😢
Obi Wan was wise well beyond his years during the Clone Wars. He could sense the victim beneath the Dark Side acolyte that everyone else saw. Ventress had a very hard life and deserved rescuing. The problem was her combat and Force talents that made her impossible to capture peacefully, in order to help her.
I actually really liked Ventress as a character!! I liked how she evolved into her own person especially when she was first dragged into being a bounty Hunter!!
Ventress is so awesome and one of my favourite female characters in Star Wars. Her story is kinda sad and complicated and that’s why I like her. She went from being apart of the Separatists to then being kicked out and fending for herself and the night sisters. She deserves more recognition!!!
Asajj Ventress is one of my favorite characters in the Star Wars universe and is underrated in some ways. I sympathize with her past along with Dooku for why they both turned to the dark side. She needs her own series imo!
Even a what if she never turned what kind of connection could she have to Anakin her fear anger her sadness seeing her master die who we would assume she cared for
She's my favorite and I hope they'll do a Dark Disciple movie animated or live action. Her final story needs told. She was as strong as and more tragic than Anakin's story. The Jedi ultimately made a decision which lead to her death while they aband9ned their own code. Meanwhile she died wielding a yellow lightsaber and Guardian of a Jedi. Her force wielding story actually comes full circle and she's more on par with Ahsoka when light and dark side balance occur.
Obi-Wan Kenobi knew what the real mental state of Asajj Ventress and he never thought of her as an enemy but rather as a lost child misguided through a dark pathway. Unfortunately she having been around Dark Force wielders such as Count Dooku and Darth Sidious led to her early demise.
I honestly can’t say I’m surprised about this. If ventress had lived through the clone wars I’m sure and obi-wan might’ve eventually formed a relationship. Since she became a bounty hunter and “mostly” to the good side. I say that figuratively.
She’s definitely one of the most tragic Star Wars characters. I’d say on par with Anakin/Vader. Her first two masters were killed, then in her anger she was drawn to the dark side and was later abandoned. Then she returned to her clan only to draw the Separatists who massacre her people. Very sad 😔
Though I know she is canonically killed off in a book I'd love to see her join the Bad Batch (surprised they've not added a Force Sensitive already) and she would be an interesting individual for them to team up with, even if just for a brief time.
They really need to roll that back if for no other reason of being able to do it with a fake out of someone every one assumes to be Ahsoka duel wielding lightsabers in the dark then when the lights come up its her
To be honest I see Ventress as a Lost Child just as much as Obi-Wan did she has lost everything her master's everything she was just a child and forced to grow up in an environment that wasn't and given to her but was forced upon her fighting is what she was living for and see when you're on a fight and died before she surrendered to anyone but if you was given the chance to rejoin the order things would have turned out different.
It was very hard to like her at first, but absolutely grew to love her by the end of the TCW run. Sucks that they wrote her death in such an underwhelming fashion, as I feel she would he been a great OT good bounty hut, helping Ashoka and running from Vader, finding out he was Skywalker before her death instead of what he got.
One of my favourite characters in the series, hated her at first but then came to like her so much, she became my third favourite, behind Obi and Ahsoka
Asage ventress was a really good character and d like to see more about her as well as what might have happened if she was given time to heal and time to learn that not all are trying to kill or even harm her.
The SO and I were actually talking about these subjects earlier today. Parts of Star Wars can be very black and white at times, but my favorite parts of the world are the ones that aren't. The characters who remain open-minded but not naive, like Obi-Wan. The characters who aren't blatantly evil, like Ventress. It makes the world feel more real, because few things in life can be shoved into one box or another.
I haven't watched the video as of writing this but I think he thought he could save her and felt because he could, that he needed to and this compelled him.
I truly wish we could have seen more of her complex character develop before her untimely death. I believe she would have developed into sort of a Gray Jedi/ Anti Hero and ultimately an ally of Ashoka Tano if she lived.
Don't forget she dies respected by Obi wan more than Maul even... That's ALOT. Even Obi Wan's nod and goodbye to Anakin didn't reach that level of respect. Even MAUL got higher than Anakin ultimately. I see Kenobis Force Ghost working with Maul and Asajj to heal the taint on Dathomir. If Nihilus can destroy a planet why can't they FIX one. They didn't die Sith... They died changed with a hint of the Light Side. AkA there is still good in him style... Dathomir souls cries for healing.... Let it be SOOO....
I love Ventress, she is my favorite. I even have two Siamese, Asajj Ventress and Ahsoka Tano. Dark Disciple is so great and heartbreaking. I want better for her. Fingers crossed she shows up in Kenobi.
Pity with her... She was one the few WOULDA BEEN redemption stories since the ONE thing the Jedi hated, or 2, Love and Attachment, that happened totally unplanned sounds like with Quinlin Voss, started her on a path that PROBABLY woulda seen her turn into a powerful Grey Jedi if NOT total redemption by the time of the movies is what I've heard. The fact that EVEN in poor mental state becoming a kinda Sith/evil Bounty Hunter/Assassin type BUT able to reliably set aside ALL of that to work alongside notable heroes just shows and proves she can become one the strongest possible heroes. Since ONCE that'd happened she'd become one the ultimate Heroes knowing all too well of the worst sorts of fear and darkness having been that for so long herself... That old saw bout living as a hero or villain so long the character or person actually switches sides. Sometimes permanently which think under a friendship an guidance from Voss, Kenobi an Still Knight Anakin here probably woulda been the case
Don't forget she dies wielding a yellow light saber, defending a Jedi and dies a Guardian usurped by Sith and Jedi alike.. EPIC!!! She's more Ahsoka but Force Ghost than anything. She just needs Kenobi's help to heal Dathomir from the other side...
Love Ventres's character arch. I the clone wars she was one of my favorite characters and then Dark Desciple took it to a whole other level to me. I'd like to see her get a show in live action.
Your viewpoint concerning Asajj Ventress seems spot-on to me. And yes, I would love to see more of her in the Star Wars universe...as I've always had a crush on her.❤❤❤
I think this is probably the finest analysis you've ever done. I always liked Ventris' character, even though she was seemingly evil, it was clear that there was far more complexity to her than was obvious. Brilliant and well done. It is interesting, though, that Obi Wan could somehow see past the apparent evil in Ventris, but could never find his way to see past it in Anakin.
I agree... in the cartoon series when she became a bounty hunter she did a lot of selfless and light worthy things proving that she is not dark at the core... her fear made her carnal and instinctive for self preservation and then that was used and she was manipulated by Dooku... I was bumbed about her death
Professor Wave: "Obiwan has a soft spot for Ventress because he understands the hardships she's gone through. Me: "Obiwan has a soft spot for Ventress because he has an internal *Baddie Radar*."
This speaks volumes about how truly compassionate and understanding Obi-Wan was as a person. It's why I keep saying that he could have saved Anakin in place of Qui-Gon. Ventress is one of the best characters in Star Wars in my opinion, and I would very much like to see the rest of her story play out in some sort of mini series, or maybe even a short film. Although, if I had to pick, I'd rather it be a mini series.
Assaj Ventress is an amazing character probably my favorite female character in all of Star Wars. I love to see her used more I would love to see her character used in live action shows and movies. It would be astounding to see but as hard to pull of if not harder than Ashoka Tano another favorite of mine😍
Obi-Wan actually did refer to her as “a complicated woman” in an episode of “The Clone Wars” and the book “Dark Desciple”. Everyone she became close to since her childhood were taken away from her and she was psychologically damaged from it. She never learned how to deal with pain. Just lash out her pain to justify her actions. She hated the Jedi because they were so dogmatic in their ways. Even the council showed some hostility towards her when Obi-Wan asked her to attend a meeting. The other members were ready to pull their lightsabers out. Only Masters Yoda and Obi-Wan welcomed her. After that Asajj told Obi-Wan she would never come there again.
SWTCW was a great show, wish there was more episodes made.. Ventres, Ahsoka, Bane, and Maul were some of the coolest and complex characters and I wish there were more episodes focused on them and their personal stories
She has always been an interesting character. Would love to see more of her.
Totally agree dude. A mini series to show how her character arc is concluded would be awesome coz there's still some story of hers left to tell. MTFBY
Luke or Lea Skywalker find a child of Ventress and train her to defend and protect an orphanage of newborn and very young force sensitive children, Luke and Lea are in no position to care for these children. Ventress's daughter as mother protector of these children as they deal with very flawed adults,
You can't as she died in the Dooku assassination plot.
I wasn't a fan of her when the show first started but as her story arc progressed I understood her more and grew to become one of my favorite characters much like obi-wan precived her
@@kendrickallen7952 I’m half expecting Disney to retcon that book and have a proper show with her that displays the end of her arc
She wasn’t evil, she was simply damaged and never got to heal from the trauma. She and Anakin are examples that most monsters aren’t born…they are made by monstrous circumstances. While Palpatine is the rarer example of a monster that was born. He was a psychopath before ever becoming a Sith.
Its Sad that Obi-wan could display enough sympathy towards Ventress' situation to comprehend the reasons for which she turned to the dark side to ultimately forgive her, but failed to do the same with Anakin, who Kenobi simply saw as evil, and turned a complete blind eye to his inner conflict.
@@freegracetruth77 pretty girl privilege?
Grievous too if you consider his legend backstory
@Beck 3042 I was referring to the part where monsters are built not born
@@freegracetruth77 Because they weren’t the same. Ventless never really had a choice. Anakin embraced the darkness as a choice.
She is a criminally underrated character. Watching her arch on dathomir for the first time and seeing how there was never a point in her life where she wasn’t subservient to someone else or had a “master” was tragic but it explained so much about her. And she’s a badass
I believe had she not been basically abandoned by the Jedi she could have been a Master, maybe council level.
Obi wan: We're outmatched.
Ventress: You want to run?
Obi wan: I learned from watching you.
Ventress: FUNNY
one of my favorite scenes lol
Ventress is one of the best characters ever. The relationship with Obi-Wan, her kinship with Ahsoka, her deep and complex personal damage, her drive, and her skill and abilities... Were she ever able to deal with her personal pain and suffering, she could have become one of the greatest force users in the galaxy. She was immensely clever but never learned emotional control which he various antagonists used against her time and again. She was trained in saber dueling by the greatest duelist in Jedi history. She could handle dueling both Anakin AND Obi-Wan at the same time. Palpatine saw her and Dooku as a rising threat and offered Dooku to kill her. Dooku didn't want to... he had become fond of her and for a moment thought about taking her and going to confront Palpatine. He ultimately decided it was a losing bet as neither of them were ready for such a task and with his own life now hanging on the balance did what he felt he had to and turned on her. His fondness of her being the proof in his mind he couldn't do what was necessary to defeat his Master. Of course I'm injecting a tiny bit of my own hypothesizing in the gaps but it's all based on real story. Ventress never had a home. Every parental figure she had aside from her Jedi master used, abused, and discarded her. Every time she found a home it would be destroyed, taken away, and betrayed or cast her out. She never had a friend who didn't die or betray her. She truly was a tragic character. Under all her anger, fear, and suffering there was kinship, loyalty, even kindness... Despite her dark masters best efforts, she had never been fully corrupted. She wasn't loyal out of fear. She wanted her masters to be proud, grateful, to be endeared to them. Had the Jedi not been so sanctimonious and arrogant during her time, she could have become one of the greatest among them. I know there are stories that indicate how she met her end but to be honest I'd like to see her make an appearance in the Mandalorian or the Ahsoka show...
Her character arc was already ended once prior Disney era(though with some room being left for her eventual return) so they could simply decide to do it again.
That's not a tiny bit of your own hypothesising; it's the truth. You're entirely correct in that there was a Ventress-sized gap between Dooku and Sidious, which is... not a small gap. Ventress still needed time before she and Dooku together could truly defeat Sidious, but Sheev being the brilliant schemer that he is noticed this instantly.
Dooku, who joined the Sith not for power but for change and reformation, calculated that he still needed Sidious and that duelling him at this point would be a mistake. He therefore fell out with Ventress, which is just what Sidious had planned. This is also what ultimately drove the nail into Dooku's coffin, which is why he never again thought to challenge Sidious and remained his loyal little patsy until his end.
righy it would be good if she appeared in Ashoka or Mandaloroian(i think she would be dead around this time) but who carss
@@ednamodee Sadly, she sacrificed herself to save Quinlan Vos after they tried on more than one occasion to assassinate Count Dooku.
Per canon, Ventress gets killed by Dooku’s force lightning as she tried to protect Quinlan Vos…..so, no chance to see her beyond the Clone War era.
This is from Star Wars: Dark Disciple a cannon book by Christie Golden
I hoped Dooku would've been honest about why he abandoned her or at least expressed some regret. He only did it because Palpatine pressured him.
He didn't just pressure him, he legit threatened his life or hers.
especially considering he made an enemy for himself and if he wouldve been honest she prob wouldve understood and remained an unofficial ally to Dooku.
Dooku is responsible, because he put her in this spot although all minions are always consdered as disposable
Another of the times when the force failed her. Like when her first Master was killed. Life had nothing but negativity to show her, of course she went to the Darkside.
It would be very unlike the Count to admit such weakness, even if he did feel that way to a degree.
She just needed a hug
Personally I feel like she should never have been killed off.
I love her character I think she started to show real development in her actions and mindset but the end I for one would have loved to see her and Ahsoka Tano meet up again in say, the Mandorla or or appear in one of the movies, or even the Darth Vader comics.
She has a lot more to give and I don't think she got a fare end to her story
With Disney’s retconning of many books in the past year, it’s plausible that she could return. Note that Cad Bane was supposed to die prior to Order 66, and he showed up in the Bad Batch.
@@o.o5258 it’s Disney canon that she’s very much dead
SPOILERS!!! Sheesh ....LOL
@@andyrihn1 Until they decide it isn't - wouldn't be the first time they changed up something.
@@JustinKase1969 like what? Certainly nothing that big. All they’ve ever gone back on are minor details that don’t really impact the overall story of any particular character eg the color of Ahsoka’s lightsabers when she buried them or the details of how Kanan experienced Order 66.
What a great analysis! The episode where Ventress dipped into becoming a bounty hunter and her arc with Ahsoka working together on Coruscant are one of my favourite episodes of The Clone Wars.
Always loved Ventress. Thought she was kind of a hottie!! One of my favorite characters. Great voice actress for the Clone Wars series too.
exactly in his position i would done more than just flirt with her…we would’ve hooked up more than a couple of times. crazy chicks are the best lays
It just goes to show you how good of a Jedi Obi-Wan Kenobi was.
How good of a jedi huh. So help dark force user who scarred Anakin. Obi wan was terrible jedi master. Anakin was better master of a jedi.
@@JosephHandibode it’s not about how good of a fighter you are it’s about how good of a person you are and obi-Wan had a big heart. Being good and just is the Jedi way. Being forgiving is the Jedi way. Regardless of how evil somebody perceives to be just because they perceive to be evil from the outside don’t Mean they’re not hurting from the inside.
@@JosephHandibode Obi-Wan was a way better Jedi Master then Anakin Anakin turn to the dark side Obi-Wan never did and without Obi-Wan Anakin never would have been a Jedi
Obi-Wan is considered to be a prime example of what a Jedi *should* be. Kind, compassionate, caring, composed and willing to help others at the cost of himself. Sure, he had a couple moments of weakness, such as when he had to fight maul after he killed Qui-Gon, and when he had to confront Anakin on Mustafar. But for what it's worth, for intents and purposes, he is a perfect example of a Jedi Knight.
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Makes sense when Anakin came after her to find out the truth about the temple bombing when they're fighting she yells "leave me alone" i always found that sad like she was saying im so tired😢
Obi Wan was wise well beyond his years during the Clone Wars. He could sense the victim beneath the Dark Side acolyte that everyone else saw. Ventress had a very hard life and deserved rescuing. The problem was her combat and Force talents that made her impossible to capture peacefully, in order to help her.
I actually really liked Ventress as a character!! I liked how she evolved into her own person especially when she was first dragged into being a bounty Hunter!!
Ventress is so awesome and one of my favourite female characters in Star Wars. Her story is kinda sad and complicated and that’s why I like her. She went from being apart of the Separatists to then being kicked out and fending for herself and the night sisters. She deserves more recognition!!!
I like how he always spoke with and about her with some respect, even referring to her, wherever they were face to face, as 'my dear'.
I would like more of her. She spawned my favorite Kenobi line "red's not my color".
Asajj Ventress is one of my favorite characters in the Star Wars universe and is underrated in some ways. I sympathize with her past along with Dooku for why they both turned to the dark side. She needs her own series imo!
It would be nice to see her in the new Obi-wan show
Sorry to burst your bubble but Ventress unfortunately did not make it past Order 66, she sacrificed herself to save her lover.
@@bigfootwithinternetconnect2330 maybe she'll appear in a flashback. That would be awesome
An interesting theory would be if the time line permitted it. What if she and Anakin had trained together when they were both padawans?
Even a what if she never turned what kind of connection could she have to Anakin her fear anger her sadness seeing her master die who we would assume she cared for
She has always been one of my favorite characters. Would to see more of her in the animation or a live action.
Plus she is double cheeked up
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She's my favorite and I hope they'll do a Dark Disciple movie animated or live action. Her final story needs told. She was as strong as and more tragic than Anakin's story. The Jedi ultimately made a decision which lead to her death while they aband9ned their own code. Meanwhile she died wielding a yellow lightsaber and Guardian of a Jedi. Her force wielding story actually comes full circle and she's more on par with Ahsoka when light and dark side balance occur.
Ventress is a great character
I think it's quite easy he had a thing for bald beauties he was always flirting with her
the mando chick wasnt bald.
facts she was a hottie with the body my boy could sure pick em.
Obi-Wan Kenobi knew what the real mental state of Asajj Ventress and he never thought of her as an enemy but rather as a lost child misguided through a dark pathway. Unfortunately she having been around Dark Force wielders such as Count Dooku and Darth Sidious led to her early demise.
I always loved their dynamic
Alternative title: why ventress is a really good charackter
I honestly can’t say I’m surprised about this. If ventress had lived through the clone wars I’m sure and obi-wan might’ve eventually formed a relationship. Since she became a bounty hunter and “mostly” to the good side. I say that figuratively.
As we got to the end of star wars the clone wars as i felt sympathy and would hope to see more of her
She is one of my absolut favourit charachters. I feel soo sorry for her...its a great example on how people are affected by the world around them.
Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Darth Ventress the wise?
“Kenobi was the only one who cared about her”? Quinlan Voss...?
One of my favorites.
He wanted that Ventrussy.
She’s definitely one of the most tragic Star Wars characters. I’d say on par with Anakin/Vader. Her first two masters were killed, then in her anger she was drawn to the dark side and was later abandoned. Then she returned to her clan only to draw the Separatists who massacre her people. Very sad 😔
She's an awesome character that I wish we'd get the chance to see more of.
Though I know she is canonically killed off in a book I'd love to see her join the Bad Batch (surprised they've not added a Force Sensitive already) and she would be an interesting individual for them to team up with, even if just for a brief time.
They really need to roll that back if for no other reason of being able to do it with a fake out of someone every one assumes to be Ahsoka duel wielding lightsabers in the dark then when the lights come up its her
She is one of my favorite characters honestly
She is one of my favorite characters in all of Star Wars. I cried reading Dark Disciple.
We not gonna mention how she bested Grievous? That was actually impressive.
To be honest I see Ventress as a Lost Child just as much as Obi-Wan did she has lost everything her master's everything she was just a child and forced to grow up in an environment that wasn't and given to her but was forced upon her fighting is what she was living for and see when you're on a fight and died before she surrendered to anyone but if you was given the chance to rejoin the order things would have turned out different.
It was very hard to like her at first, but absolutely grew to love her by the end of the TCW run. Sucks that they wrote her death in such an underwhelming fashion, as I feel she would he been a great OT good bounty hut, helping Ashoka and running from Vader, finding out he was Skywalker before her death instead of what he got.
This is so beautiful.
Dark Disciple is a great read that explains a great deal.
I love their dynamic
I completely agree with this that's how I've always felt about Ventress she was just lost as are most people in the world
Listening to your video, is like reading a book with no punctuation.
She was one very cool character when introduced duel welding and shooting lighting
One of my favourite characters in the series, hated her at first but then came to like her so much, she became my third favourite, behind Obi and Ahsoka
This was great insight into a cool auxiliary character.
Obi-Wan: "So you see, that's where the trouble began: that smile... that damn smile..."
"A pawn with the abilities of a bishop" killed me lol
Would love to see more of her story, she's one of my favorite characters
Asage ventress was a really good character and d like to see more about her as well as what might have happened if she was given time to heal and time to learn that not all are trying to kill or even harm her.
The SO and I were actually talking about these subjects earlier today. Parts of Star Wars can be very black and white at times, but my favorite parts of the world are the ones that aren't. The characters who remain open-minded but not naive, like Obi-Wan. The characters who aren't blatantly evil, like Ventress. It makes the world feel more real, because few things in life can be shoved into one box or another.
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She is for sure one of my favorite characters.
Ventless will always be my favorite character and I will admit I have a crush on her too lol!
Amazing
Lol. I was litterally thinking "a powerful pawn is called a bishop"
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Kenobi was one of the TRUE jedi that actually understood the light. Just an awesome character
Definitely would love to see more.
"And that's why Obi-Wan was the only Jedi to understand her"
*laughs in Quinlan Vos*
I haven't watched the video as of writing this but I think he thought he could save her and felt because he could, that he needed to and this compelled him.
I truly wish we could have seen more of her complex character develop before her untimely death. I believe she would have developed into sort of a Gray Jedi/ Anti Hero and ultimately an ally of Ashoka Tano if she lived.
Don't forget she dies respected by Obi wan more than Maul even... That's ALOT. Even Obi Wan's nod and goodbye to Anakin didn't reach that level of respect. Even MAUL got higher than Anakin ultimately. I see Kenobis Force Ghost working with Maul and Asajj to heal the taint on Dathomir. If Nihilus can destroy a planet why can't they FIX one. They didn't die Sith... They died changed with a hint of the Light Side. AkA there is still good in him style... Dathomir souls cries for healing.... Let it be SOOO....
Ventress is my favourite character, so I would definitely want to see more of her.
An animated show with Padawan Ventress as the MC pre-dark side would be so cool tbh
REALLY hopes she makes a live-action appearance. Incredibly interesting and important character.
I love Ventress, she is my favorite. I even have two Siamese, Asajj Ventress and Ahsoka Tano. Dark Disciple is so great and heartbreaking. I want better for her. Fingers crossed she shows up in Kenobi.
Definitely her story would make an awesome show or cartoon.
Pity with her... She was one the few WOULDA BEEN redemption stories since the ONE thing the Jedi hated, or 2, Love and Attachment, that happened totally unplanned sounds like with Quinlin Voss, started her on a path that PROBABLY woulda seen her turn into a powerful Grey Jedi if NOT total redemption by the time of the movies is what I've heard. The fact that EVEN in poor mental state becoming a kinda Sith/evil Bounty Hunter/Assassin type BUT able to reliably set aside ALL of that to work alongside notable heroes just shows and proves she can become one the strongest possible heroes. Since ONCE that'd happened she'd become one the ultimate Heroes knowing all too well of the worst sorts of fear and darkness having been that for so long herself... That old saw bout living as a hero or villain so long the character or person actually switches sides. Sometimes permanently which think under a friendship an guidance from Voss, Kenobi an Still Knight Anakin here probably woulda been the case
Don't forget she dies wielding a yellow light saber, defending a Jedi and dies a Guardian usurped by Sith and Jedi alike.. EPIC!!! She's more Ahsoka but Force Ghost than anything. She just needs Kenobi's help to heal Dathomir from the other side...
I'd love to see more of her in the future! For some reason, i could see scarlet johanson playing her.
This is the Base for why he sent Quinlan to find her and work with her to hunt dooku.
My personal favorite character from the Clone Wars.
Love Ventres's character arch. I the clone wars she was one of my favorite characters and then Dark Desciple took it to a whole other level to me. I'd like to see her get a show in live action.
Kenobi is the golden retriever of jedis. He's a good boy.
I hope to see her in live action.
Great share Man
Your viewpoint concerning Asajj Ventress seems spot-on to me. And yes, I would love to see more of her in the Star Wars universe...as I've always had a crush on her.❤❤❤
Want to see more about ventress in the future
I think this is probably the finest analysis you've ever done. I always liked Ventris' character, even though she was seemingly evil, it was clear that there was far more complexity to her than was obvious. Brilliant and well done. It is interesting, though, that Obi Wan could somehow see past the apparent evil in Ventris, but could never find his way to see past it in Anakin.
Ventress was misunderstood; she was just going from one dark pit to the next, struggling to break free.
I agree... in the cartoon series when she became a bounty hunter she did a lot of selfless and light worthy things proving that she is not dark at the core... her fear made her carnal and instinctive for self preservation and then that was used and she was manipulated by Dooku... I was bumbed about her death
I’d love to see more of her
Professor Wave: "Obiwan has a soft spot for Ventress because he understands the hardships she's gone through.
Me: "Obiwan has a soft spot for Ventress because he has an internal *Baddie Radar*."
This speaks volumes about how truly compassionate and understanding Obi-Wan was as a person. It's why I keep saying that he could have saved Anakin in place of Qui-Gon. Ventress is one of the best characters in Star Wars in my opinion, and I would very much like to see the rest of her story play out in some sort of mini series, or maybe even a short film. Although, if I had to pick, I'd rather it be a mini series.
The way she'd flirt with Obi-Wan in season 1 episode 16 was insane
Assaj Ventress is an amazing character probably my favorite female character in all of Star Wars. I love to see her used more I would love to see her character used in live action shows and movies. It would be astounding to see but as hard to pull of if not harder than Ashoka Tano another favorite of mine😍
Definitely one of my favorite characters thay id love to see correctly done in live action
She has a tragic life and very well constructed character
Obi-Wan actually did refer to her as “a complicated woman” in an episode of “The Clone Wars” and the book “Dark Desciple”. Everyone she became close to since her childhood were taken away from her and she was psychologically damaged from it. She never learned how to deal with pain. Just lash out her pain to justify her actions.
She hated the Jedi because they were so dogmatic in their ways. Even the council showed some hostility towards her when Obi-Wan asked her to attend a meeting. The other members were ready to pull their lightsabers out. Only Masters Yoda and Obi-Wan welcomed her. After that Asajj told Obi-Wan she would never come there again.
SWTCW was a great show, wish there was more episodes made.. Ventres, Ahsoka, Bane, and Maul were some of the coolest and complex characters and I wish there were more episodes focused on them and their personal stories
As much as it is true you did forget about Quinlan Vos... he knew, he cared & he loved her
I love ventress as a character! the episodes about her were awesome! I hope we see her in live action one day!
Ventress has always had my interest one of the coolest characters
I mean that is within Obi Wan as a character. Understanding even his enemy and why they are how they are.
This was surprising, thanks.
A flawless character arc tbh