What happened to Leicester City?

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  • @Taizuren
    @Taizuren ปีที่แล้ว +2760

    But I'll always have spot in my heart for Leicester, Vardy, Kante, Mahrez, Ranieri, and of course always....Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha!!! rip

    • @doodhood2995
      @doodhood2995 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Harry Maguire too

    • @noksengkongkal3003
      @noksengkongkal3003 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Dont foget Kasper

    • @Ese96Agboaye
      @Ese96Agboaye ปีที่แล้ว +63

      And Wes Morgan.

    • @BigSmoke2.20
      @BigSmoke2.20 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ​@@doodhood2995 80 million towards the club

    • @aezaztanveer1764
      @aezaztanveer1764 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Don’t forget Danny drinkwater he was so good too back then😢

  • @football.cinema.
    @football.cinema. ปีที่แล้ว +2452

    As a neutral it’s actually unbelievable what’s happened to the club in the last 24 months.
    Seeing them relegated would feel like reading the cruelest, most surreal ending to one of your favorite fairy tales 😔😔😔

    • @magicjack4076
      @magicjack4076 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We are a yoyo club

    • @shinebanana4084
      @shinebanana4084 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      its not like the club dies if they get relagated

    • @shutup2751
      @shutup2751 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @45 commando they did win the fa cup 2 seasons ago though in fairness, they did have a winners mentality that most teams lacked

    • @sempereadem54eadem64
      @sempereadem54eadem64 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Rogers nothing else

    • @sempereadem54eadem64
      @sempereadem54eadem64 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bootneck777hey 🤡you don’t win leagues by luck a cup maybe.Stick to tiddlywinks.

  • @uncreative5766
    @uncreative5766 ปีที่แล้ว +857

    It's a tragedy that their chairman passed away in that helicopter accident. It certainly leaves a hole in one's heart and makes an entire fan base wonder what could've been if he didn't die so suddenly.

    • @HendriS_1707
      @HendriS_1707 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Yeah everything goes downhill since that tragedy.

    • @zscout370
      @zscout370 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is a question I have as well.

    • @blueflame3531
      @blueflame3531 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      They almost got CL in 2020 and 2021...

    • @cityplanner3063
      @cityplanner3063 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dustinedwards7821 without wealth no soccer

    • @CompatibleLeftist
      @CompatibleLeftist ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@cityplanner3063 The rich couldn’t exist if not for the exploitation of the working class.

  • @Teaandephemery
    @Teaandephemery ปีที่แล้ว +907

    I think the moment Leicester's decline became baked in was when they lost 4-2 to a diabolical Spurs team at the end of 2020-21, missing out on the champions league in the process. If they'd won that game they'd have finished ahead of Utd and CL revenue would have made up the hole in the accounts caused by the pandemic. However, they lost, and the money issues snowballed from there.

    • @reintaler6355
      @reintaler6355 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      Yeah they basically did a Leeds

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      ​@@reintaler6355 perfect example leeds in 01 and 02 needed to qualify for champs and both season just narrowly missed and it ruined them just like Leicester in 20 and 21 and just like Leeds two seasons after nearly qualifying for champs they could go down

    • @folarinalabi3250
      @folarinalabi3250 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Chelsea not United. United had already confirmed 2nd place

    • @ZeCarlopist
      @ZeCarlopist ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@folarinalabi3250 true. They could've finished above Chelsea but they bottled it to spurs who had nothing to play for

    • @dendenn7383
      @dendenn7383 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ahead of united? United finished 2nd in 2020/21

  • @EighthRobin
    @EighthRobin ปีที่แล้ว +704

    On the topic of downfalls, I'd really like to see one covering the fall of Yeovil Town, from the Championship to National league south in less than a decade.

    • @mrwabbit9576
      @mrwabbit9576 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      I remember Yeovil beating Brentford in the league 1 playoff final back in 2013.
      It was a frustrating one because a lot of us knew Yeovil wouldn't survive in the championship. It's funny though because that team had players like Dan Burn and Luke Ayling who are premier league players 10 years on.
      The difference in direction the 2 clubs went couldn't be more drastic.

    • @karl_franks
      @karl_franks ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Bolton would be an interesting one to cover too, I remember when I was growing up first getting into football they were a decent team who managed to qualify for europe on multiple occasions so to see them just over a decade later drop all the way into league two was wild

    • @samconstantinou2335
      @samconstantinou2335 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@karl_franks Jesus I didn’t even know Bolton was in League 2, I remember Big Sam being in charge for the early 2000s for them as a kid so that’s shocking to hear

    • @paulie-g
      @paulie-g ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be fair, their promotion up there was a massive overachievement. Yeovil never big enough to sustain that.

    • @Csnich96
      @Csnich96 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Scunthorpe have done the same too

  • @bigmitchtv3922
    @bigmitchtv3922 ปีที่แล้ว +491

    Seeing Leicester and Southampton going down, makes me immediately worry about Brighton. Selling your best players will catch up with you at a point. No matter how good your recruitment team is all you need is one bad window, one unfortunate circumstance ( e.g a pandemic) and that's it. This clubs don't have the financial power like the top six to write of one window of huge bad spending. Brighton better be very careful this transfer window, with all the players they might lose, I fear they'll be in line next.

    • @matiasorcio
      @matiasorcio ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nah Brighton will play in Europe 🌍

    • @miloudbouchefra200
      @miloudbouchefra200 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Brighton will be shredded to pieces next summer window and, at best, the club will be back to a mid to low table positions, it is the sad reality of the world of football and it will be the same story for other teams such as Napoli and to a lesser degree Benfica, so enjoy it as long as it lasts.

    • @chrisalves11
      @chrisalves11 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@miloudbouchefra200 as a benfica fan - the club isnt exactly challenging for UCL titles, i think theyre fine just developing/selling players while challenging for the league title & good ucl runs here and there

    • @Farlon303
      @Farlon303 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      ​@@matiasorcio He's not saying they won't play in Europe. He's saying they might suffer in the next transfer window

    • @matiasorcio
      @matiasorcio ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Farlon303 yeah he's probably right

  • @cokezzz8249
    @cokezzz8249 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    They lost their leader Schmeichel who made the saves needed against the big 6 clubs enabling them to be competitive even when they sold many of their key players

    • @mrwabbit9576
      @mrwabbit9576 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Tbh I like Ivarsen. Very solid GK for Preston and I think people are starting to realise how good he is after that Everton performance, although I agree Schmeichel was phenomenal for them in more ways than just stopping shots.

    • @Sam-es2gf
      @Sam-es2gf ปีที่แล้ว +58

      I love Kasper, but it's more Rodgers insistence on playing Danny Ward. It looks even more braindead when we see how good Iversen has been. Leicester fans have been calling for Iversen to start since pre season and been cringing ever since. Ward has cost us so many points. Same with Amartey over Soyuncu.

    • @davidvalencia129
      @davidvalencia129 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@mrwabbit9576 yeah but Ward who played a lot performed really bad.

    • @ankitjethwa20
      @ankitjethwa20 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It's pity that Soyancu will move to athletico Madrid next season. Rodgers ruined his whole year by benching him and even after that just see his performances in last 3 matches. Amarty was disaster for us

    • @rabbieburns2501
      @rabbieburns2501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, his saves gained them many points every season

  • @lonestarr1490
    @lonestarr1490 ปีที่แล้ว +423

    _"Leicester City have gone from being the exemplar of good practice within football clubs to becoming the next cautionary tale of how it can all go wrong."_
    Due to almost no fault of their own. That's the real tragedy here. By Premier League standards, they've been one of the very few sensible sides. Maybe the wages were a bit too high, but apart from that?
    It's such a shame, really. Because what will that cautionary tale look like? "You better get yourself some Sheikh from an inhumane regime to finance your ludicrous and short-sighted signings, or else you might go down like good ol' Leicester."

    • @HillProductions1878
      @HillProductions1878 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Spot on. Just highlights more the (growing) inequity between a select few sides and everyone else.

    • @dutchmilk
      @dutchmilk ปีที่แล้ว +16

      inhumae like the American?

    • @rz1_1221
      @rz1_1221 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Getting a Sheikh from an inhumane regime to finance ludicrous short sighted schemes? Sounds like PSG 😂

    • @Jonifico
      @Jonifico ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Right on the money, pardon the pun

    • @zijadzikedzehovic6206
      @zijadzikedzehovic6206 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolute truth.

  • @secla_SC
    @secla_SC ปีที่แล้ว +158

    At Liverpool Rodgers had the same problem, he wanted full control of transfers and that led to a lot of poor signings.

    • @mtlewis973
      @mtlewis973 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      so funny that he hasn’t learned his lesson

    • @HarlowGlobetrotter
      @HarlowGlobetrotter ปีที่แล้ว +55

      NEVER give Brendan Rodgers your wallet.

    • @Pikmii
      @Pikmii ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Joe "The Welsh Xavi" Allen...😅

    • @spinyslasher6586
      @spinyslasher6586 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pikmii except Xavi is doing great with Barca at La Liga.

    • @jdogg448
      @jdogg448 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@spinyslasher6586 Joe Allen is jokingly referred to as the Welsh Xavi, it's not a comment on Xavi...

  • @joemadden4817
    @joemadden4817 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As a Leicester fan I'd say sadly this video is an accurate overview of the current issues. Good job as always Tifo

  • @ThaTacoGuy1
    @ThaTacoGuy1 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Brendan Rodgers made our position in the table worse. Money does play a big factor in table positioning, but he still had most of the players that Leicester City won the FA cup with. He got the tactics all wrong and did not play the best players this season!

  • @YeTism
    @YeTism ปีที่แล้ว +1480

    Vardy still has a greater legacy in English football than Kane

    • @niyiogunro
      @niyiogunro ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Facts 😂

    • @teamdauntlessreal
      @teamdauntlessreal ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Factos

    • @AvatarN
      @AvatarN ปีที่แล้ว +16

      No cap

    • @magicjack4076
      @magicjack4076 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Kane would love to go back to Leicester, if he did he’d actually have a trophie

    • @teamdauntlessreal
      @teamdauntlessreal ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dan SouthLondon Cry on a shoulder of a trophyless kid

  • @joeperera8145
    @joeperera8145 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    As a Leicester fan, I think it's also key that BR fell out and then didn't play a number of top players. Playing Amartey ahead of Soyuncu this season for instance. A lot of our players have seemingly just declined as well: Ndidi, Ricardo, Castagne, Dewsbury-Hall, Tielemans have all played below their usual standards this season. Ndidi used to be one of the top defensive midfielders in the league and now just looks like a liability whenever he plays.

    • @Jonifico
      @Jonifico ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's insane. Ndidi looked like the next Kante at times

    • @absbabs6153
      @absbabs6153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean if you look at soyunu's and Faes's performances in the first few weeks of the season it's easy to see why he had to bench one of them

  • @Big_Gulps
    @Big_Gulps ปีที่แล้ว +41

    If they'd managed to get into the CL those couple of seasons where they were in top 4 for the vast majority of them, might have gone some way to increase revenue and get more concrete interest in some of their players

    • @SpongeBobSquarePants89
      @SpongeBobSquarePants89 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have 2 season that got them into top 4 but both missed on very last day

  • @jakelawson1
    @jakelawson1 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The one thing missing here is the reason for the change in transfer policy during the summer of 2021: Missing out on the Champions League on the last day of the season two years on the trot (thanks Jack Grealish!), there was a sense that the club were on the verge of being a top 4 side. So, they committed to not selling any top talent and acquiring talent that was ready to help out immediately. Then, disaster struck: Villarreal's Fer Nino snapped Wesley Fofana's leg in a pre-season friendly, hence the panic buy of Vestergaard. The club went all in on trying to reach the CL and finished 8th. This sense that the club's window had closed left top players unwilling to extend their contracts, and the financial problems were compounded by the Fofana drama last summer.
    I lied: There was one other point that needed to be made: Rodgers' bizarre refusal to use the players at his disposal, including some he brought on. Vestergaard has barely played at all. Çağlar Söyüncü, arguably the club's best defender, couldn't even get on the bench. Wilfred Ndidi, the only real defensive midfielder in the squad, found himself out of favour with the club leaking goals. The manager might not like the hand he's been dealt (or has dealt himself), but it's his job to make the most of what he has and Rodgers couldn't or wouldn't do this.

  • @livinginlondon6122
    @livinginlondon6122 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Still a brilliant team . They need to be playing with more heart , incredible players . Maddison , Vardy !

  • @akhanduri09
    @akhanduri09 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Nice to hear JJ on this one. Looks like he can sound serious when he wants to 😅

    • @MattVogt2
      @MattVogt2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, I find it really hard to take JJ seriously :) Seb is the only one whose straight face is actually straight.

  • @sonny22
    @sonny22 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Am a Leicester fan and this has been the most heartbreaking season but the most hopeful one I ever witness, we go in each game looking to likely win only to commit one mistake and we down
    But I believe we staying up and next season is a different story to write.

    • @herman8809
      @herman8809 ปีที่แล้ว

      You went down

    • @sonny22
      @sonny22 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@herman8809 we will be back

    • @herman8809
      @herman8809 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sonny22 not for a whole year

  • @alexanderverschueren1683
    @alexanderverschueren1683 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It’s clear that some clubs like Newcastle get big investments and other clubs will suffer from this. Leicester sold their goalie and best defender last summer and didn’t get a new goalie. You can’t keep up in the prem with your secondary keeper

  • @Detector1977
    @Detector1977 ปีที่แล้ว +365

    The fall of Vardy was inevitable and they did nothing to replace him.

    • @chibifirestorm
      @chibifirestorm ปีที่แล้ว +124

      Daka was meant to replace him, he's not good enough though

    • @shloksalunke197
      @shloksalunke197 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Vardy is still good . Bt the midfield isn't . Not playing forward balls. Playing dewsberry hall who always played the ball backwards not making forward passes to vardy. Poor defence.
      A striker is nothing without a good midfield

    • @wjl_f4088
      @wjl_f4088 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Vardy is still a great player. The reason why most people thought that he was a flop in recent time was because of Brendans formations and style of play. He didnt utilise Vardy, which saw him get benched or play very few minutes and even when he played , the style of play didnt suite it.

    • @Rts22375
      @Rts22375 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Vardy is still leicester city's best striker .it's all about his supply

    • @rashidkhalid3970
      @rashidkhalid3970 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Clubs like Brighton brenford took a page out of there game and a few other clubs across Europe

  • @theskankingpigeon965
    @theskankingpigeon965 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Leicester bought two defenders from a team they beat 0-9, one of whom was sent off after 12mins while the other subbed off at half time. I can't even begin to imagine the mental gymnastics that Leicester's recruitment team performed to justify those transfers.
    As a Saints fan, I like to pretend Vestergaard and Bertrand are intentionally sabotaging from the inside, though in reality lower-table Prem team is about their ceiling.
    I saw another comment call out the Head of Senior Recruitment Lee Congerton, who I imagine must shoulder a lot of the blame. Seems Congerton and Rogers used to work together as scouts/youth coaches at Chelsea in the early Mourinho days and have stuck fairly close together since.

  • @nonnayoubuzinnes1669
    @nonnayoubuzinnes1669 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I saw Leicester play Liverpool at Anfield earlier in the season, December I think, and they were really good, Liverpool are still good at home but had to fight hard to win. Then I watched them play Eveton last week and couldn't believe the decline, Everton are awful but if anything Leicester were even worse. Their defence is terrible in particular and can't keep a clean sheet. Quite scary how quickly they have fallen.

  • @vecterpls
    @vecterpls ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Leicester and Southampton are cautionary tales for ambitious and forward thinking clubs on the up like Brentford and Brighton, there is a glass ceiling in the PL and unless you get bought by a state like Newcastle the odds are you'll hit that ceiling and eventually slide back down, then it's really more of a case of seeing if you just slide back into mid table or you get relegated all together.

    • @calahoon22
      @calahoon22 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      With Leicesters model it can be done that you can break through that glass ceiling, although its harder and longer than simply getting bought out like Newcastle, the problem lies in getting a hit player than performs year in year out. Buy even one or two many flops and your financial model might be under pressure

    • @spinyslasher6586
      @spinyslasher6586 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not really. Leicester were doing just fine until the pandemic hit and their owners were put in a bad financial situation. The advantage of oil clubs is that demand for oil doesn't die even during a pandemic, so they can keep the cash flowing.

    • @justinwong7730
      @justinwong7730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      u cant say southampton is bad .... their academy was strong , every year can develop some player in youth to play in the premier league big stage...... Nice thumb up for southampton academy

    • @spinyslasher6586
      @spinyslasher6586 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@justinwong7730 They are about to get relegated dude.

    • @justinwong7730
      @justinwong7730 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spinyslasher6586 u can't say they bad (maybe leicester was bad) I mean their academy... I know they lack of player can help them in the green pitch. Yet I still believe vardy can bring us back just like 2014...

  • @jackwatson6887
    @jackwatson6887 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Leicester’s run was always on a knife-edge, winning the FA Cup and getting to enjoy deep runs Europe was just glossing over the fact that this eventual decline was coming.

    • @holeefuk413
      @holeefuk413 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      ​ you don't fluke winning the PL, you have no clue

    • @magicjack4076
      @magicjack4076 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well it looks like arsenal are going miss out on the league and they have good odds

    • @Ovenman940
      @Ovenman940 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @45 commando you don't know what fluke or betting odds mean

    • @holeefuk413
      @holeefuk413 ปีที่แล้ว

      @45 commando being the least likely to win is not the same as fluking a 38 game season. You haven't a clue about football go back to tiddlywinks

    • @iJaxy10
      @iJaxy10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @45 commando yeah man odds mean it was insanely unlikely. That doesn’t mean they got lucky it just means absolutely nobody expected them to be as good as they were. They were the best team in the league that year and deserved to win it. They didn’t get lucky they just performed much better than anyone expected

  • @MenWithVen
    @MenWithVen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:41 top marks JJ. I couldn't have done it.

  • @ChunterInfo
    @ChunterInfo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic explanation. I've been burned by the "Leicester Model" in Football Manager games without having an event like the pandemic ruining revenues by forgetting about what happens when all the young players' salaries want to go up at the same time

  • @alizainalabidin7173
    @alizainalabidin7173 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always, great content from Tifo. One of the best channel in TH-cam.
    Great job!

  • @farcydebop
    @farcydebop ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To sum it up, Brendan Rodgers just destroyed Leicester sustainable model, and made little effort to save the ship, so he could get fired and get out when it was ineluctably sinking.

  • @AdamLunn08
    @AdamLunn08 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kudos to the artist who incorporated Leicester Market and the surrounding buildings into the background artwork 👌.

  • @ayou055
    @ayou055 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's even sadder to think unlike a lot of clubs were probably too greedy, unrealistic or over reached, Leicester and their owner didn't show any such hubris. The pandemic and it's economic effects were outside their control, and their decision to change from the Leicester Model was probably a gamble the club needed to make at the time as for whatever reason it probably didn't seem sustainable.

  • @aymenalhilali2678
    @aymenalhilali2678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you please bring back the old voice of Tifo on this channel... He's got such a calming tone of voice to him that makes watching your videos all the more engaging!

  • @Harpreet06
    @Harpreet06 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    How did Rodgers keep playing Ward instead of Iversen?

    • @MannequinStep
      @MannequinStep ปีที่แล้ว

      Ward is more technical and has better feet so fits Rodgers system better...but the big problem was he was a terrible shot stopper who rarely saved any thing that wasn't straight forward, he also didn't have the leadership to run the back line which Schmeichel did for a decade so no one other than Evans who was constantly injured had the leadership to organise the defence. Ward is better than Iversen technically, with distribution and better in the air, however Iversen is a MUCH better shot stopper, which, in my opinion, is easily the most important aspect of a goalkeeper.

  • @tintinsimon
    @tintinsimon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My therapist: "The Anthropomorphic fox cannot hurt you, he's just an illustration in an Tifo video..."
    The Anthropomorphic fox: *crosses his arms menacingly*

  • @unown293
    @unown293 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    not getting UCL football in 2019/20 and 2020/21 was insane, they literally bottled it so hard… regardless, i do think they’ll just barely stay up this season and then it’s up to them to see if they’ll survive next season

  • @HufflepuffDaddy
    @HufflepuffDaddy ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In their most recent game vs Everton I saw very bad passing from Leicester that killed attacks...I mean Chelsea-level passing. That's very bad.

  • @leobestbote4244
    @leobestbote4244 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I'm not a Leicester fan but watching them fall so steeply from grace has been sad to watch, hope they don't get relegated otherwise they may struggle to come back

    • @spinyslasher6586
      @spinyslasher6586 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IIBeanie what are you on about? It was not about winning the league, most of the f-ups came much later during the pandemic and also bad decisions made by their coach during that time. In fact, they were having a great season both in 2019 and 2021, and their debts only really caught upto them this last year.

    • @spinyslasher6586
      @spinyslasher6586 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IIBeanie wage increases were done because they could afford it. The problem was that, they couldn't after the pandemic.

  • @mattheendpod2659
    @mattheendpod2659 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s amazing how this has become the narrative. We tried to keep all of those players, the only one that didn’t refuse to play was Maguire.

  • @magicjack4076
    @magicjack4076 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What happened to soyunchu is a crime.
    We brought in players like vestiguard cause Rodgers was too stubborn to play soyunchu, now he’s playing great in the first but leaving on a free to athletic o madrid

    • @MannequinStep
      @MannequinStep ปีที่แล้ว

      Vestergaard was not bought for the reason to play ahead of Soyuncu. Evans and Fofana had long term injuries, the only fit CB's we had were Amartey and Soyuncu.

  • @sprattee10
    @sprattee10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Teams also caught on to what they were doing too. Maguires fee was way too much and caused some hesitancy for everyone else moving forward.

  • @beezergutler5488
    @beezergutler5488 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The same thing happened at villa when Randy Lerner stopped spending. You can’t keep selling top players and not replacing them with equal quality and expect to remain competitive.

  • @jerrydboss7251
    @jerrydboss7251 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Considering Leicester were a game win away from getting top 4 two seasons in a row and a fa cup very recently

  • @justsomeguy2743
    @justsomeguy2743 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Simple Brendan rodgers,
    He starts of ok,
    Then you have an amazing season
    Then you have a decent season but nowhere near the amazing season then you get the 3 5 2 where he plays emre can at CB and plays for 1-0 wins but gets 0-0 draws, that is what’s happened to Leicester

  • @lwandomadikizela2213
    @lwandomadikizela2213 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A lot went wrong for Leicester City since Rodgers took over. Yes he won Leicester City the FA Cup and both times missed out on Champions League football by a whisker, however since the pandemic happened and their poor recruitment since last season has driven Leicester City from a possible top 4 contenders to relegation fodder. Plus most of their key players are losing their values and underperforming this season. Even if they survive they need a massive rebuild for their squad for the next few years.

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leicester bottling top4 in back 2 back seasons honestly is why they're in this predicament

    • @irvancrocs1753
      @irvancrocs1753 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's because he wanted full control in transfer policy which with all due respect, he mostly really sucks on it..
      Just look at players he brought when he was at Liverpool: borini, joe allen, nuri sahin, cissokho, iago aspas, luis alberto, ings, benteke, clyne, grujic, caulker, rickie lambert, markovic, balotelli, moreno, all considered as flops..
      Yes some are nice like coutinho, sturridge, firmino, joe gomez, milner, but you can't deny it's not really his expertise in general, they should not let him do that at Leicester..

  • @surhudjoshi6389
    @surhudjoshi6389 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JJ, you’re a phenomenal analyst for games with your frenetic energy. Also for strategic videos and the like. But honestly, this format of calm story telling that Joe has made his own is not really suited to you. Cheers.
    P.S.: I love you both!

  • @SeanTube2099
    @SeanTube2099 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You didn’t even mention Leicester letting one of the best keepers in the Premier League leave and Vardy suddenly becoming too old to score goals.

  • @tahiriqbal5771
    @tahiriqbal5771 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its amazing to see this information. Great for sharing this one..

  • @chriscarr3916
    @chriscarr3916 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im suprised Tifo you didn't include how stubborn and arrogant Rodgers was with his tactics and squad selection. Dropping Soyuncu when he's our best centre back just one example.

  • @yohanessetiawan5000
    @yohanessetiawan5000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    leceister is back to epl next year. what a roller coaster!!!

  • @gandalfthewhite8273
    @gandalfthewhite8273 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Rodgers is a coach for a side that already has the talent, it was a squad built by Puel and he benefited from that, he's good coach for 2 years and then his messaging starts to fall on deaf ears. He wanted Vest'n' pants and Bertrand who were either injured or sent to the reserves, this combined with poor buys from his mate Congerton led to a bloated squad being paid too much money, most of players he bought were sitting on the bench.
    After the Forest hammering in the FA cup Rodgers told the media that the squad needed a refresh and players would be moved on, he would have told certain players that they were no longer wanted at the club, who then still had to play for him. His summer rebuild didn't happen due to financial reasons, partly caused by himself, and all we got in the summer was his moaning and negativity, this then fed into the squad and the club. There was no humility or contrition from Rodgers, no owning up to his mistakes and his failings, it was always someone else's fault.
    From the outside it probably looks like Leicester didn't back him, and that will be Rodger's defence, but in reality the club tried to give him the best they could afford and even let him run the club on the field from top to bottom. The U23 will be relegated this season playing Rodger's ball and maybe the senior squad will join them.
    I think the biggest mistake of all is that the board gave too much control to one man, and didn't read the runes correctly, fans could see it slowly unravel, but why didn't the board? Did they convince themselves they still had a top class manager and they just had to wait out this blip?

    • @HarlowGlobetrotter
      @HarlowGlobetrotter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's all Rodgers. it's amazing to me that people don't see that.

  • @economicsofentertainment
    @economicsofentertainment ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting take. I think the two mentioned, Madison and Tielemans will definitely go in the next window. The club is extremely well run so I am sure they will get through this rough patch.

  • @Elijah323
    @Elijah323 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm Australian and I have been so happy that we have an Australian in the prem for the first time in ages, Harry Soutar but now I am so annoyed that the foxes might be getting relegated, so lets all hope that the mighty foxes can clutch up and avoid relegation 🙏

    • @user-bx2kd7jt8t
      @user-bx2kd7jt8t ปีที่แล้ว

      He's scottish

    • @hi-ls6lt
      @hi-ls6lt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-bx2kd7jt8t he’s Australian and Scottish. Obviously feels more Australian to play for their national team.

  • @rich45davis
    @rich45davis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm from Lesta but my family are West Ham, there aren't many games (if any) I wish we would lose but the last game of the season this Sunday and I hope Lesta beats us and Everton goes down. It's such a shame to see what has happened to them.

  • @martinhartecfc
    @martinhartecfc ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Celtic fan here: what role did Lee Congerton play in the change in Leicester's recruitment. For all that Rodgers himself was a fantastic coach, Congerton caused so much long-term damage to my club with the changes he made to our recruitment and to the scouting team. So incompetent was Congerton that we used to joke that he must have something over Rodgers for the latter to keep bringing him to clubs. I know that Rodger's brought Congerton with him to Leicester (after a few months' delay) and I remember thinking that Leicester were really going to regret that. Now, when I see the state of Leicester, I can't help seeing his hand in this. Is that fair? How long did Congerton end up staying? How much of a role did he have in this debacle?

    • @aimilproudman-harris2521
      @aimilproudman-harris2521 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      him and that goblin Rodgers are the entire cause. of the 11 permanent signings under Congerton, only 3 became first team regulars, with around £100m worth being frozen out. Recruitment has gotten worse ever since Rodgers took over and his petty spite towards the likes of Soyuncu are why our model is falling apart. Destroyed us like he did Liverpool (how long did Klopp spend undoing that damage)

    • @theskankingpigeon965
      @theskankingpigeon965 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      interesting to get this context. thought something weird was going on with Leicester's recruitment when they took Vestergaard and Bertrand off us (Saints) despite them both having key roles in the 0-9.

    • @martinhartecfc
      @martinhartecfc ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@aimilproudman-harris2521 I can relate to that story TBH. I guess you might not follow Scottish football but before Congerton we had a model of buying promising young players for resale and it was working really well: Wanyama, Van Dijk, Forster, Moussa Dembele (the latter arrived after Rodgers but, crucially, before Congerton), etc. He destroyed all that. There was even a leaked hand-scribbled note with ridiculous transfer targets that was alleged to be Congerton's! We're OK now (4 years later); but in order to turn us around, Ange Postecoglou basically had to take personal control of recruitment for the last 18 months while a new network was being put in place. I still think Rodgers is an excellent coach; he just shouldn't be allowed any involvement in transfers and definitely not to bring Congerton.

    • @empatel96
      @empatel96 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🔩🔨
      The two absolutely ruined transfer policy.
      Right now, we've got Vestergaard and Bertrand registered but Vestergaard hasn't played since early season (Brendan eventually disliked him before Jan window) & Bertrand hasn't played since early last season.
      Now James Justin is back from injury but can't play because Rodgers registered the other two write offs instead

  • @bigbearrecordingstudio7921
    @bigbearrecordingstudio7921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg hearing JJ Bull's voice in a Tifo (not Tifo IRL) vid feels wrong! Like seeing Batman in Avengers or Hulk joining the Justice League 😂 great vid guys

  • @tombartram7384
    @tombartram7384 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vardy's finally hitting the back of the net. A few months earlier might've been helpful!

  • @keithbutler2222
    @keithbutler2222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is well put together as an analysis, albeit painful to take after the relegation became a reality. I started going to matches with my son just before they were relegated to league one so they have shown they can pull back up...and then some! I only hope that Top is able to stick with us

  • @killbot86
    @killbot86 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't believe that they are still benching Harry Souttar....He should be playing more often.....

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone else think it's wierd hearing JJ Bull deliver something without any jokes whatsoever?

  • @arkadye
    @arkadye ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think one of Rodger's most damaging decisions was to "overhaul" the medical team that was the envy of the league.
    One remarkable thing about the 2015-16 season that allowed us such success was that we had no injuries to ANY key players.
    From what I've heard: when Rodgers came in the medical team - the one that meant we were blessed by a lack of injuries for years - warned him that his methods were likely to cause muscular injuries to the players. Rodgers decided to overhaul the team to bring his preferred team in. Players "take a knock in training" or "just feel a twinge in their calf" so they're left out of the team "as a precaution". They then spend weeks out because "it's worse than we originally thought" and then finally return for 20 minutes only to pull up clutching their thigh. Ricardo Pereira and James Justin have been worst hit by this, by Maddison, Barnes, Vardy and Soyuncu all suffered as well.

    • @udahenak
      @udahenak ปีที่แล้ว

      😢

    • @ankitjethwa20
      @ankitjethwa20 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gosh.. It's boiled my blood that Ricardo Pereira got injured consecutively in two pre season, only to make comeback in last 7-8 matches

  • @MrBoblex
    @MrBoblex ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also one of the reasons is the death of the chairman, his son took over but isnt a football fan like his dad.

  • @leepaxman-clarke7270
    @leepaxman-clarke7270 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a Leicester fan I do think that some of the fan base have got carried away with the overachievement that has happened over the past few seasons. Let's be honest, Leicester should be happy with any mid-table finish. Winning the League, watching them in the knockout stages of the champions league and winning the FA cup was an absolute golden age.
    Ask any team like Villa, Fulham, West Ham, Everton how much they would like a 1st, 5th and 5th place finish, and to think people said they bottled 4th is laughable, get some perspective, this is Leicester not Arsenal or Liverpool.
    This team have been overhauled, only Vardy and Amarty are left from the title win and relying on a 36yr old striker to drag you out of a relegation scrap is desperation.
    Saying the club went downhill when Kasper left is not the full picture, even the year before the team could not defend a set piece to save their lives. Kasper's distribution was woeful at times and doesn't command the area, plus his insane wages. The replacement Ward was not up to the job.
    Tifo is spot on with the obscene wage bill and contracts for players like Bertrand, it is killing the club.
    Whilst Brendan brought trophies to the team, the fans did hate the negative substitutions and man management, the whole situation with Cags sums it up, and now he has re-emerged as our best centre back he has been sold on a free! Youri will leave on a free. Madison will be out the door as he is capable of much more. Plus £10m just to sack Rogers.
    So you got to the end, well done 😂.
    I hope Leicester survive and learn a lesson or two. I would love to see us challenge for Europe again soon but I hope even more that we can just stay relevant in the prem.

    • @MannequinStep
      @MannequinStep ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, I mean, we did bottle top four when we were over ten points clear of fifth with eight games to go and then 2-1 up with fifteen minutes to go needing a win to get fourth

  • @IrshadFida-kb5og
    @IrshadFida-kb5og ปีที่แล้ว

    Tifo Football keeps asking and answering questions we all never thought of. What a channel!

  • @anggasatria8813
    @anggasatria8813 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think its also have to mention that vardy always become top 5 goalscore since 2016(except 2022 or 2021season i forget)is why liecester city able to compete on high level in epl,the moment vardy have bad season is another reason the downfall of liecester(which to be fair he carry the team since 2016 is insane stats)

  • @benwardle3766
    @benwardle3766 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One key point missed is that our star striker is sadly getting past it... very hard to replace 20 goals a season. Oh and we lost our captain and keeper, Schmeichal.

  • @natangweiitula
    @natangweiitula ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Its JJ 😂😂😂😂😂😂 i love this

    • @Neomorphinity
      @Neomorphinity ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a little odd at first just hearing JJ reading a script and not seeing him, lol. I really dig it though!

  • @SlimxShady73
    @SlimxShady73 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the downfall is even more tragic considering how fast it was from almost making the champions league in 2021-22😭

    • @TheChrcol
      @TheChrcol ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We actually was in the CL as well a few years earlier.

  • @HolloVVpoint
    @HolloVVpoint ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I see a lot of these types of videos, and this isn’t a dig at tifo, but it isn’t about what happened to “x” club but more so the high level of competition in the premier league.
    Every season every team is constantly improving, in new and different ways. Sometimes you could be improving at a set pace but because everyone else is doing it at an accelerated pace, it details your improvement and you end up struggling for the season.

    • @garyanderton
      @garyanderton ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No offense, but who are you trying to fool with that Skysports analysis? Football works in cycles, clearly theirs has ended. Each year in every league certain teams are relegated, the reasons stated here are better explanations. The quality of football in all leagues has suffered as a result of the mid season WC, but the PL especially has lost two previous powerhouses in Liverpool and Chelsea. Those teams aren't doing worse because everyone else caught up, nobody can match the investment Chelsea just put in, however their cycle with a previously strong squad has definitely ended (out of prime Kante as an example or VVD).
      Their downfall is very similar to Leeds back in 02. Had Leicester qualified for the CL last season their finances would look much better, now on the other hand they might be relegated.

    • @Sam-es2gf
      @Sam-es2gf ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol what. Leicester have badly regressed. I'm a fan. Most noticeable regression was in goal from Schmeichel to Ward. Iversen only starting to play at the end of the season may save us but it's stupid how long Rodgers persisted with a keeper costing us so many points. It would be an essay to describe all other areas but just to say your comment is pithy af

  • @fettyjay1551
    @fettyjay1551 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the new style video

  • @g4ddos
    @g4ddos ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Didnt replace Schemichel and persisted for far too long with Danny Ward.

  • @nikolababic3588
    @nikolababic3588 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ranieri is probably in top 10 coaches of all time, beside names like Johan Cruyff and Brian Clough. Yeah he never won UCL, but Valencia was the strongest team he ever managed and won UEFA Supercup with them. He won promotions with Monaco, Fiorentina and Cagliari twice and even won some cups with those teams. He was only one with balls to take Juventus one year after Calciopoli scandal and Mourinho's Chelsea was built on pillars that Ranieri set up. He is a guy you give sunday league team and in 3 years they advance group stage in Europa league.

  • @jjj8317
    @jjj8317 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rogers was a horrible choice for a manager, he decimated Leicester. This season that idiot sidelined Vardy and Suyuncu, causing the latter to leave the club on a free this summer. Dude also wasted money on useless players. He is a good manager for a team like Celtic that is absolutely dominant in a mediocre league. He would do great on PSG

  • @JPS_Originals
    @JPS_Originals ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doing a Blackburn. Hopefully we're not condemned for perpetuity to the lower leagues :( Best thing ever having Gary Linekar a fan and our glory years just past

  • @thrombolic
    @thrombolic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A sad ending for bunch of great players that have become merely a shadow of their true potential & a club doomed to fail. Did Rogers leave too late or was his replacement just as bad? 😢💔

  • @Max-ve5tu
    @Max-ve5tu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A loss of leadership has also been key. Wes Morgan's retirement, Schmeichel leaving, and Johnny Evans playing 1 game a year have not been good for the team.

  • @14rs2
    @14rs2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Selling Harry Maguire was the greatest deal Leicester City ever did

  • @antonioemilio9932
    @antonioemilio9932 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The most impressive part of this video is that JJ pronounced the Leicester owner's name correctly. 😂

  • @ZsebtelepHUN
    @ZsebtelepHUN ปีที่แล้ว

    We are watching the youtube algorythm ads, the sponsored ads, and Tifo hires this guy as narrator.

  • @WelshIron
    @WelshIron ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope Leicester can turn it around and stay up.

  • @darthJ9
    @darthJ9 ปีที่แล้ว

    JJ on the voice over whaaaaaaattt, I'm in!

  • @Nobody-kg8md
    @Nobody-kg8md ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Leicester and Everton possibly going down just feels surreal. It’s sad, Leicester did a fantastic job of standing up to the big clubs, and punching them back.

    • @DeeSee77
      @DeeSee77 ปีที่แล้ว

      The “big clubs” created the Premier League including open promotion from the Football League, allowing small provincial clubs like Leicester access to the big time.
      So totally the opposite, you might say.

  • @javeriaafzal3312
    @javeriaafzal3312 ปีที่แล้ว

    There channel never disappoint with their content loved it already

  • @thztan7492
    @thztan7492 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The scout and recruitment is bad in these years didnt help the after covid effect for sure. Hope they can stay🙏

  • @lokmannor
    @lokmannor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see JJ now in Tifo Football

  • @howtopost3450
    @howtopost3450 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can’t lie all of this happened when kasper left

  • @NostalgicMem0ries
    @NostalgicMem0ries ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is tragic, from one of most exciting teams and winning pl, to relegation and potential decline for years.... covid did damage so many sports teams around world...

  • @theincrediblemd9761
    @theincrediblemd9761 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know recruitment , the collapse of the Leicester model, and the pandemic are really key factors, probably 70-80 % responsible.
    However, isn't one fan screaming in their head about how they fell short of making Champions League TWICE !!!! TWICE !!!! 😭😭😭😭

    • @empatel96
      @empatel96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The first time we bottled, Rodgers went defensive at halftime to relegated Bournemouth and threw the game away 😭😂

    • @theincrediblemd9761
      @theincrediblemd9761 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@empatel96 imagine Caglar Soyuncu's red card, that guy disappointed me that day

    • @empatel96
      @empatel96 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theincrediblemd9761 I don't even blame him. It was stupid of him to go defensive. Like he constantly did every time including this season as soon as we went a goal up

    • @theincrediblemd9761
      @theincrediblemd9761 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@empatel96 ah the mighty Brendan, always full of character

  • @HermSezPlayToWin
    @HermSezPlayToWin ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work JJ Devine! 😉

  • @jayakrishnan8215
    @jayakrishnan8215 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    they are back to premier league.

  • @horheli1589
    @horheli1589 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:41 you must have recorded that name part atleast hundrerd times 😂

  • @GeneralGrizzy
    @GeneralGrizzy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    …and today they’ve been relegated

  • @Ze_Austin
    @Ze_Austin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My word. JJ actually has a serious voice 😮

  • @bizzia1233
    @bizzia1233 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Could you do a video on Swindon towns 93/94 premier league season

    • @freakyholic
      @freakyholic ปีที่แล้ว

      nobody wanted to watch it

  • @injest1928
    @injest1928 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really think there is something to having a method or ethos that the whole club follows. When they lose their nerve after a poor run and break their own system they often see an improvement due to regression to the mean, only to have a long term failure due to straying from the path

  • @FlashMeterRed
    @FlashMeterRed ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rodgers seems like an excellent coach.
    Just an absolutely horrendous manager.
    He can work really well with whatever top talents are handed to him and brings players together tactically really well, just keep him well away from transfer and recruitment decisions.
    And probably only give him a 3 year contract before moving on.

    • @gabsnandes7818
      @gabsnandes7818 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude has good tactics, just don't let him do transfers

  • @anthonycokoye
    @anthonycokoye ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am a huge fan of the Leicester City model. However, their model was not truly sustainable and came apart by going above logical wages-to-revenue percent - as with most North American sports teams, a realistic value would be around 50%. Most Premier League and Championship teams would be more sustainable if they kept their wages around that marker.

  • @4lpl-f7q
    @4lpl-f7q ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The sales of Drinkwater and Maguire are amongst the best of all time 😂

    • @caffeine2662
      @caffeine2662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you conveniently ignore that they were both class while at leicester, sure.

  • @T234-i6e
    @T234-i6e ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They were never a regular Premier League club anyway, it’s not rare to see them go down. Still, their league title will always be one of the greatest moments in Premier League history.

    • @KJames2345
      @KJames2345 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes they were, they got promotion through the playoffs 3 times finished 2nd once and won the Championship the 5th time.
      They've been promoted 5 times to the EPL, since 1992. There was a period under Mandaric were they had 10 years outside the EPL before getting promoted under the new current owners King Power where they've been for the last 9 years.
      They are an established EPL team, and they're probably bounce straight back up at the end of next season.

  • @Blkhole02
    @Blkhole02 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would relegation actually be that bad? They have a solid foundation to build on, and with parachute payments and the undoubtedly significant chunk of cash they would get from selling Tielemans and Maddison, they could easily make a quick bounce-back, a la Newcastle. Furthermore, not having the pressure of competing against free-spending mid-table teams such as Villa, Wolves or West Ham would give them some breathing space, allowing them to fall back on their original recruitment model.

    • @Hiah.l
      @Hiah.l ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The relegation will cost them 100 million pounds from TV revenue, which is just the tip of the iceberg if they are using the current sales model since relegation also means players will want to force their way out for cheap. I think their decline truly started from not finding a good Kasper Schmeichel replacement, that same philosophy of selling first before buying bring into their downfall.

    • @zscout370
      @zscout370 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hiah.l I think if we had Iverson start over Ward, we might've been in a better shape. But you are spot on about Kasper.

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 ปีที่แล้ว

      IIRC Youri is a free agent after this season? Maddison could get some decent value but if they're relegated his transfer value would be slashed

    • @dondamon4669
      @dondamon4669 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope your not a business man! 😂 Never a good thing!!

  • @gameraptor7740
    @gameraptor7740 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing they lacked were the levels of scouts that teams like Britghon has. If they had the model could have worked.

  • @the_cloudywolf
    @the_cloudywolf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm an American who only started watching the EPL in 2019 ish, so I had the privilege of picking which team to root for. I chose Leicester city because I loved how they were a smaller (comparatively) club that still competed with the big boys at the top. Sad to see where it is now, though as long as they're in the EPL they're my team!