Videophone '93 (Retrotech)
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- The future of Telecommunications - The Videophone.
In 1993 British Telecom introduced a range of videophones to the UK - These included the VC7000 for business and the Relate 2000 for home.
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I really want him to keep this as a prop in his filming set, so that he can always emphasize a point by banging the desk and having the receiver fall down.
Absolutely agree! Hilarious, nerdy, and definitively unique. I want him to do exactly that now. =)
its too funny
Great idea
It would also be nice if Techmoan could get that to work and add to his intro and greeting welcoming everyone to his channel via the videophone.
That would be awesome
How cool would it be if you put this on a high shelf, and when you wanted to answer a call you banged the desk and caught the handset on the way down
at least mildly cool, I think
until it falls on your head
And a step-ladder to hang up. LOL.
Scoob I like your way of thinking! :D
Whilst wearing shades with the theme to Beverley Hills Cop playing in the background? ;)
@Please Complete All Fields you beat me to it!
90's video edit looked so authentic, took me a few seconds to realize it was a joke.
I think, he really recorded it to a Video8-Tape.
I thought it was real from the tape.. 😅
He only forgot to wear double-bridged glasses.
Right? His editing game was on point. I suppose it is because he surrounds himself with old cameras haha.
He's a legend
"And the built in handset.."
*Bang*
*Clatter*
Lmao
Back in the 90s it was exciting to see the person you spoke to. Now we don't even bother speaking to each other, we just send text messages. It's like we have gone back to the age of the telegraph.
I think "Tech 93" is my new favorite show
Wonder if they had to rename the show every year
@@Arbiter099 they did that with the Film with Barry Norman
It just needs Judith Hann and William Woollard as co-presenters :-)
I thought the presenter was my friends brother Andy for a split second he looked identical! Mind you Andy did emigrate to Canada in the mid 00's so maybe we have our answer🤔
me too. I loved it
At 1:20 I thought 'So that's where Mat got his inspiration for the Techmoan intro video.' 1:32 Ha ha! I fell for that hook, line and sinker! Brilliant!
Arne Saknussemm me too lol
Same here. Brilliant!
I've NEVER met anyone who said "I'm a scientist" when asked what their occupation is.
Same here! :D The voice later was a giveaway ;)
@@JesusisJesus Magnus Pyke used to do it on his show. I'm guessing that's where Techmoan got it.
VHS filter... check.
Cheesy background music... check.
Hairstyle... check.
And... we have an early '90s video! Excellent :)
Moustache - Confirmed, definitely the salesman for this thing.
I honestly thought it was a legit video from the 90's. I only figured it out when I heard his voice...
THAT IS NOT A FILTER.
Techmoan wouldn't do that. He has all the VHS gear needed to simply record this onto a tape and then capture it in playback.
"The built in handset..." *thump* That actually had me laugh out loud. Great stuff as usual!
BT (or more accurately the Post Office as it was then) had an internal videophone trial in the late 1960s. Followed by about 20 sets of the Mark 2 Viewphone, most at the HQ building in Gresham Street, London and the rest at the Dollis Hill Research Station. Those were analogue systems, monochrome, 319 lines (vertical scan in Mark 1, conventional horizontal scan in mark 2), 50 field/s, 2:1 interlace, 1 MHz bandwidth running over twisted pair cables.
The H.261 standardisation process began in 1985. I was its editor, participating in the international meetings and led the small group at BT Research Labs building a pair of hardware prototype codecs. Each was the size of a fridge-freezer.
All the subsequent video compression standards in the H.26x series and the MPEG series are based on the same techniques as in the original H.261.
1993: this videophone is the future, so cool!
2020: you better put some tape over your webcam!
in 1993 they already deliver a cap for the cam...
They were ahead of their time on that! lol
It came with a lens cap
@@themagicboy6548 1993: We have provided a lens cap for your privacy
2020: Your laptop gets a webcam whether you want one or not, hope you got some tape...
The very first computer I used that had a webcam (Silicon Graphics Indy, 1996) came with a slide-over lens cover. I suspect one major reason the computer makers won't build-in a sliding lens cover (other than the accumulated cost of them cutting into the CEO's donut & sushi budget) is because there would be thousands of customers calling in because their webcam wasn't working (when they'd just have the cover closed)
Yep, a videophone in your home is the coolest thing ever!
And now everyone has a videophone in their pocket and we hardly ever use it.
I always decline FaceTime calls at first thinking someone pocket dialed me because no one ever calls you on it.
Mostly used for porn.
Eh, I do group facetime calls with my family a couple of times a week. And I'll facetime friends if I need to ask them about something where it would help if they could see it, or I'll do a video call to my roommates if I spot something they might want and I need to know if they want me to pick it up for them. And of course I do a video call with my girlfriend quite often because it makes the whole long distance relationship thing much easier. I actually do a lot of video calling, and so do most of my friends and family, but I'm guessing I'm not exactly the typical viewer of this channel.
@@bentleymn Yeah that's true. My guy friends do seem less inclined to do video calls.
I share your hatred of voice calls though, I only answer for a handful of people I'm really close to because they cause me major anxiety. Video calls aren't quite the same to me though and I'm not sure why.
Conference calls for work, that's all I'd be using it for (and that's usually through my work laptop anyway). Besides, I like to walk around when on the phone, so it would likely drive the other person nuts.
Brilliant! I lost it when Tech 93's host came on...literally laughing out loud.
What's funnier is that he actually owns that hairpiece
Somebody got a DVD of 'Look Around You' for Christmas...
:D :D
More “Tech (90s)” style videos, please! 😄
illiterate thug If they ever make a 3rd season/series of that, we’ve got the perfect guest host or writer for it
I often say, the science fiction of my childhood has become today's banality.
I'm still stoked that I'm able to reply to you on a Star Trek Next Generation PADD, just like Captain Gene Luck Pikkard.
2:03 What a fantastic explanation of compression! It's such an elegant way of showing something complex while making it looking simple and entertaining. And all that for what is basically "just" an insert into a larger segment. The production value here is through the roof and there's a good reason for your many subscribers. Thank you!
The 90s explanation of video compression is as funny as it is genius. Brilliant!
5:06 "...but the built in handset... * thump * ...lets it work..."
That alone got a like from me :D
IDK why but this reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson somewhat.
Same here 😂
I laughed so freaking hard haha
I had to pause the video and rewind it as i couldn't hear what he said next though my laughter!
Here's on for you too.
I'm always amused when Techmoan wears a wig. There's was that older clip where he had a wig with long bangs that covered part of his mouth.
I'm surprised Mr Green didn't show up the handset might knock him out
I don’t know why the receiver falling off is so funny 😂
Yeah I laughed big time, even choked on the sandwiches I was eating. Lol.
@Eduardo Mendez They're flying off the shelves!
I think it is the way he pounds his desk as if it is perfectly normal. Been a long time since anything on youtube has made me laugh this much.
All of that advanced technology, yet it could not keep a simple handset in place when exposed to simple shock and vibration that a generic handset could do. Just so comical. :)
Could easily have been fixed with a piece of velcro
Video compression demonstration was the best I’ve ever seen! Brilliant, high tech and funny. Brilliantly done 📼📺📞
Loved the 90's edit! Makes me miss your puppets. ❤️
"Let's have a watch." * Casually inserts 8mm video tape into specific monitor without comment *
What is that monitor? Other than a Sony, that is?
@@terrydavenport48 EV-DT2
He knows us too well....
I really hope you find more episodes of Tech 93
The portion where he was wearing that wig cracked me up. It kind of made him look like he could be LGR's long lost uncle or something.
I'm still waiting for an all-retro-tech-youtuber sketch show
Also thought of LGR!
ye
@@metacob Techmoan, LGR, 8bitguy, Technology Connections, Nostalgia Nerd... who else?
@@As_Phil RetroManCave
Really interesting ! I actually worked on some of the technology behind all of this. At the time telco companies were in a battle with IT companies as to which technology would provide internet to the home. Telco's were pushing ISDN (2B+D) whilst the rest of the industry were pushing TCP/IP. BT even launched a service called "Home highway" which provided ISDN (2 x 64 KB/s) to the home in the mid-90's and I knew a few small businesses in remote areas who signed onto it. But as we now know, 'broadband' came and demolished all these ideas of delivering internet and video-phones to the home via an ancient telecoms standard (ISDN).
It’s amazing how we went from a tv with a phone attached all the way to a hand held device that does all that and more. Great content!
Glad you found that footage from '93. TV was so much better these days - they even had the brilliant idea explaining video compression! Days gone...
That was the literal coolest explanation I've ever seen in my entire life
If I need to explain someone what video compression is...this is my goto video now.
@@IngwiePhoenix 200%
"I think he went to prison."
For crimes against hairmanity
For smuggling BT Videophones with a goatee
War crimes
@@AfferbeckBeats zing!
Nope he’s still around just reviewing junk from pound land on his sofa
love it, tech 93 was like watching "look around you"
me: [sees video phone]
me instinctually: OH MAN I HAVE TO TELL MY MOM ABOUT THIS NEW GYM BADGE I EARNED
I was thinking of calling Professor Oak to send me my Charizard back!
It looks exactly like those phones in the early games tbh
First thing that came to my mind as well, “those Pokémon phones actually exist huh”
I miss the 90's spirit of pokemon. Holograms have no soul.
Mr. Mime!
Haha, one of your best, Mat! 😂😂
Btw, the Tandberg 6000 was the defacto standard for most tele presence setups all the way until around 2004-2005. Then computerised Cisco systems became better over the growing TCP/IP protocol (or Internet in general if you will). We’re proud of Erik Tandberg in Norway, he’s one of the pioneers in tele- and computing systems. And he is still an avid space program enthusiast. :)
Before Tandberg switched to tele/computing, they made some great home audio- and TV equipment too; i remember when i was a kid in the late 50s ~ early 60s my Aunt and Uncle had a Tandberg reel to reel tape recorder and it was just rock solid.
Greetings from your neighbour to the south :D
My secondary school had a language lab equipped with Tandberg TCR-522 machines. I can't say I enjoyed using them much but I did like the utilitarian styling and weird tape transport symbols.
@@nkt1 Back in 1970 i too attended a language lab, but this lab had reel to reel machines also from Tandberg, which looked very much like this one: 3.bp.blogspot.com/-U2qsWTckyEE/UA2tGya-A4I/AAAAAAAAJ30/xHskP0HXbzs/s1600/reel-to-reel-tape-recorder.jpg
I think those machines had a great design.
This particular unit was also made in Norway. I wonder who the OEM is.
I remember playing with something like that device in the modern/future technology parts of museums in the 90s
Nearly choked on my water at 5:08, at least that handset is as funny to us as it is annoying to you.
Same here, the comedic timing was perfect.
I LOLd
I'm eating lunch at work, and nearly spat my soup out.
@@CommodoreFan64 you said spat my 2 times.
@@vappyenjoyer24 lol dang Google auto correct
The Audio sync delay that you added to the "VHS" style video with the mustache, was absolutely perfect, i clapped in an empty room.
Video8!
I use to work for a logistics company that dealt exclusively with a Korean company that made video phones. When the company went bust, we were left with an amount of inventory. As the IT manager there I was "given" three brand new units. These work over IP and have a wealth of features. But go back about 10 plus years ago. If you'd like to PM me if happily send the 3 units to you for review 😁
You should send one to him and another one to someone else so you could all test it out together! 😁
I actually have a pair of old IP videophones. They connected to an included proprietary PCI card on a PC and you could converse with others through the internet. I think I came across it in the early 2000's while dumpster diving. I believe they are Picturetel's.
@@Nathriel My dad has an Intel video call ISA card, don't remember exactly what it was called, and the camera is missing
@@Milnoc lgr would be a good one
Send one to him and one to the 8-bit guy
"Hi Professor Oak". All I think of when I see this is the first season of the Pokemon anime.
Fun fact: if you have 2 of those you can connect them on the X21 interface (the DATA plug on the back) directly.
Cue Technology Connections "Through the magic of buying two of them"
Would love to see that in action
@@Time4Technology It's the cue for Technology Connections and one of his catch phrases.
But first you need to switch the network type to "X21 Leased line".
Also, in X.21 mode, it should theoretically be possible to connect to a PC with a dual RS422 interface per X.21 link. But then, I have no idea about which software could be used to decode/encode the communication.
@@Time4Technology th-cam.com/channels/y0tKL1T7wFoYcxCe0xjN6Q.html
It might be possible to call modern videophones from this device by connecting it to an ISDN BRI PCI card and configuring Asterisk to serve as an ISDN-to-SIP bridge.
Yes, that is what I was thinking. I am pretty sure it can be done.
1:30 Wow! That the most advanced muppet yet.
1:33 nailed the '93 infomercial dude look!
5:06 "But the built-in handset" (POUND! Handset falls down.)
Loved this bit.
Funny as hell
I had more fun watching that darn handset falling off far more than I should have! 🤣
Abdolutely
I’m watching this on a modern smartphone capable of FaceTime, and yet I consider the Videophone to be a much cooler device based on its design alone.
@Eduardo Mendez I think it's remarkable they assembled anything!
Apple designers are reading this and crying now.
Yea, the idea of it being able to send video's to coworkers and then having it played of a VHS Tape, Sounds like a amazing concept.
It looks like a set dressing from Alien or Maniac or Stranger Things
Everyone has FaceTime or some similar thing. Owning this bad boy is another level altogether.......
Drinking Game: Take a shot every time the handset drops
*A BODY HAS BEEN DISCOVERED*
I now have liver failure
Yu Lei three shots when the keypad falls out.
I'm now fooking rat-arsed !!
@@taofanarchy96-renzomaracas14 Hooooo boy...wonder what the Monokuma file will read xD
(In case that was not a Danganronpa reference; well...this is literally something Danganronpa does all the time. After someone is killed, a "Body Discovery Announcement" is heared where the quote-en-quote villain will say that "A body has been discovered!")
“Everything falls off when you use it.” Are you sure It wasn’t made by General Motors ? 🙂
British Leyland here.
2nd gen ram dashboard has entered the chat
*sees thumbnail*
“Wait, is that...”
*pounds desk*
“Show me your portal to the Pokémon world!”
RING RING RING
RING RING RING
POKO
POKO!
Ah yes, the SilphVision Phone SVP-1000 Video phone that Ash's mom once used.
I'm crying.
That was probably one of the funniest things I've ever seen on this channel.
whoa techmoan looks really young in this one. Cant believe its 27 years ago.
12:08 quick, somebody send this to Technology Connections, we might get another three parter!
I still want CED part 6
RCA - Mostly Harmless: The fifth video in the increasingly inaccurately named _CED Trilogy._
Hahahahaha!
buddyDurden only if it makes toast also
Plus two.
5:06 broke me haha. Great video as always, what a unique device!
I remember these things. We had them in South Africa especially in Pretoria and Johannesburg.
How's things down there at the moment?
@@weltschmerz88 down where? Earth?
@@pieterwillembotha6719 SA?
1:33 about time you and Stuart Ashen did a tech crossover.
Weird how he dyed his hair and goatee blonde/ginger. Very odd choice, sir Ashens
Don't you mean Simon Pegg?
@@Muzer0 Shh, you'll blow Stuart's cover!
This is the comment I came looking for . . .
7:42 typical IT room stuff, nothing to see here.
"We're just waiting for the Code to finish compiling!"
The AT&T Unit was used in the Cyberpunk film with Keanu Reeves "Johnny Mnemonic" by the Yakuza Villain calling Dolph Lundgren.
Ah yes, the cyberpreacher!
That movie was so lame...
@@ct92404 Nobody said it was good, only pointed out where it was used in "Futuristic" Fiction Film. Thanks for YOUR contribution in any case.
@@nasanodia736 You pointed out that it was used in a movie. I pointed out that movie sucked. That's all. Calm down.
@@ct92404 Apologies, I'm just tired of seeing so many trolls attacking people with their negativity... I mistakenly took your comment out of context-Sorry.
“Tech 93” brings back “Next Step” and “Beyond 2000” tv shows from Discovery Channel to my mind...
First that bang and the receiver dropping was an immediate like. Second, the tomorrows world style video was bang on, including the cuts/edits. Perfect!
i lived in Philadelphia PA when I was a kid in the 90s. we took a field trip to the franklin institute in school and one of the only things I remember was a room demoing these phones. I still remember the choppy feed and pixely display
@Grime Fork so they weren't all bad
"IT'S A SERIES OF TUBES!"
People in 93 just didnt understand the internet isnt a big truck.
ASOT
For a moment there...I genuinely believed that the Tech 93 video was legit. Nice one Techmoan, always love seeing novelty or interesting retro tech like this, you never sees to amaze me with what you find!
"Space 1999" had one of the coolest intro themes in TV history! 😊
It’s amazing how far technology has come in twenty years. Now my phone in my pocket can can do video calls, and a business device as well as personal entertainment device. Hell I don’t even need a tv to play my Xbox on anymore cause I can now play it over my phone
"think he went to prison" lol. Love the cardboard tube analogy.
You’re getting really good at this. Production values are outstanding! Well done!
Techmoan uploads, day gets so much better!
Great video. I love the "Tomorrow's World" segment.
Superlative work! I had to go back and rewatch the Tech '93 segment because the first time, I couldn't hear it at all over my shrieks of laughter! XD
WAIT WHAT! A VIDEO 8 TV!
JUST A MOMENT WHILE I HYPERVENTILATE!
Now I'm curious - when you use the video input, can you still add the camera's feed as picture-in-picture? Might be a fun way to do vintage gameplay streaming - point a camera at this screen showing the game and the camera for the "selfie view" of the person playing...
Oooh, then does the video *output* combine the two?
thats actually an amazing idea. @techmoan can you comment on this?
Anonymous Freak Stupid.
Hilarious video in the beginning! The fake commercial had me literally LOL.
That transition at 1:22 was fantastic. One of those little touches that in my mind, I associate with this channel. Great video, as always. I... really wasn't expective what followed.
"Back in the 90's people say i use to look like that chap."
"I wonder what happened to him in the end?"
"He probably went to Prison."
That was my favorite quip 😄
Got a genuine chuckle out of me. His humor delivery is excellent.
@@brettvv7475 I know right just so realistic lol
Every celebrity in the 90s ended up disgraced or in prison. Except Chris Morris, strangely.
Team Babylon 3370 Techmoan = just amazing
"The reason I called is because I don't want to see you."
Yeah, I was dead wrong about cameras on phones being a pointless gimmick that wouldn't catch on but for the most part I was right about video calling not being something people would actually want to use, and certainly not replacing voice calls.
It has its applications but usually the only time I make video calls is when I've accidentally phoned a friend via whatsapp (or worse, someone I barely know).
That first bang on the table really cracked me up
2:37 This was really well done.
This may be the video I enjoyed the most on this channel. It could be the handset falling after your thump, but I think it was acknowledging my thought halfway through 'We can easily do this now, but we don't seem to want to'...
I facilitated a video teleconference over ISDN at 256kbps (4 x 64kb lines bonded together) about 18 months ago. The experience was surprisingly good. There are still a small number of ISDN-based Tandbergs lurking around the US Department of Defense. We only just decommissioned our ISDN lines in December.
"I think he went to prison."
Yeah, that beard was a crime. =P
He was telecoms answer to DeLorean.
@@moagnor There's a guy that has a DeLorean and he occasionally drives it around town near where I live. The young people I know don't know what they are. Even the car enthusiasts. Back in the day, although they weren't common, everyone recognized them.
Beard is smallest of Sam Hyde's crimes.
The design of the handset cradle is unforgivable. I recall dual 128k ISDN lines. This is a great time capsule, and useful as a rowboat anchor today.
_"The built in handset..."_
Tap. Fall.
Video production is very good! Clever to dress up like an 80s businessman in a tweef woold suit and tupee haha. Great tech info on an obscue piece of business tech.
God I love your sense of humor mate haha and it's always fascinating to see this kind of old tech and how far we've come these days. Thanks for another great video Mat. Cheers.
"WHO IS THIS MYSTERIOUS MAN? HOW IS HE SO WELL INFORMED? WHO STYLES HIS MUSTACHE??"
Sooo, this is interesting!
I've been working with installing and doing services on VideoConferencing units since 2009, and I've actually seen this model a few times, still working, here in Sweden.
The Tandberg company had a few really cool VC-equipment that was way ahead of it's time back in the days. My favourite is the MXP 150 and successors.
We actually flew all over the world in the early 2010s installing their immersive TelePresence-rooms T3. Just google it!
It was around this time Cisco bought them and we had to put Cisco-stickers above all Tandberg logos on these really expensive equipment, haha.
A brilliant presentation. You had me on the floor laughing a few times!
This device looks like something from Total Recall or Aliens or Jonny Mnemonic movie. Bu...i think its kinda shame we, in 2020, STILL dont have flatpanels with cams installed in multiple rooms in out houses to make and answer videocalls, albeit we have all needed tech and bandwidth. Even cellular videocals is still kinda awkwardly rare, who ever can guess that phone calls will move into TEXTING again instead of video, since video considered intrusive and too demanding ( you cant possibly answer call after all-night drinking marathon with just trousers on and dont be ashamed?).
Future is today, but...its doent feel like future arrived at all.
Man, i love your humor and knowledge and overall humbleness + authenticity you represent! Thats exactly why i love your channel. You would be a guy i would love to hang out with, just super nice !! Peace and bigups from germany, dj skeli
"I think he went to prison" we both know techmoan vs 8bit guy will be using that line :P
Quite possibly a better crossover than infinity war
I wanted one of these when I was a kid after seeing Ash use it on Pokémon
Yes! a techmoan video is the last place i would expect a Pokemon reference but yes , in Episode like 2 of the original Pokemon series they show him call his mom on one of those phones and also he calls Prof Oak
@@GenOner why wouldn't you expect a Pokemon reference? Why would you have the expectation of never seeing anyone mention Pokemon? Don't actually answer, I turn replies off. I just want you to self reflect, this is a time for you to think about yourself
I had come searching in the comments to see if anyone would mention this - I thought of that episode the second I saw the thumbnail. Never knew Pokémon actually based it on a real piece of tech.
The headset is loose because of the abuse of its former owner: The Fonz.
Well, they did always cut short his catchphrase on the show "Aaaaaaaaaaaaa.........T&T"
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ha ha ha ha, i was thinking it was a real old introduction. very well done.
It's the evolution of the Executel "smartphone"! This is a super cool device, awesome video Techmoan. You always show the most interesting devices of the past. I am always amazed at how advanced technology was even back in the 70s.
If I'd ever got one of these back in the days I would buy a piece of Velcro for the handset. Thanks for the tip!
I was just thinking the same
Percussion Activated Handset Quick Eject sounds like a useful feature 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
How'd you manage to get Adam Savage to go back in time to do the Tech 93 bit?
Ten thumbs up! 😂😂😂😂
@@Hal9526 Where'd you get the other seven thumbs???
Brilliant video - thanks.
It makes me feel old. Back in early 90s, I remember having to write a technical paper on this new fangled ISDN for a uni course. Not sure about the BT videophone but ISDN connections are still in use within some organisations today! Although expensive and low in bandwidth by today's standard, the big advantage is they are permanently available and have constant guaranteed bandwidth - unlike many of today's broadband Internet connections.
That was quite entertaining. Loved the part while reading the description of the unit handset then banging the table. Gave me a nice chuckle.
"But the built in handset"
*bangs on the table to show the handset*
"lets it work like a phone as well a video conferencing system"
I remember seeing a unit like this at the Sharper Image store back in the 90s
@@tarstarkusz most likely.
@@tarstarkusz : It never got deployed, but AT&T had a video-on-demand system back in the 80s & 90s. If you could theoretically run it over phone lines, they tried it.
Mostly failed, but they tried regardless.
5:07 Someone please make "We Will Rock You" mashup.
And you even can replace the clap with the sound the receiver makes when hitting the desk...
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@@KeepsOnBurning You mad son-of-a-bitch, you did it! Awesome!
A couple of years later I could do this at home. There was a video meeting room at work and I had an isdn dual channel modem at home that I connected to my PC with a parallel port. The modem worked also as a small phone station (by utilising what ISDN offered) and didn't need a computer to work as such. It was a marvel how well it worked.
well done on the recreation of a 1990s tech program it was exactly like this also the presenter type was just like this the presenter would always be the type of guy you would avoid in the pub because he would talk about his new canon camera nonstop and how great his vacation was with his non-existing wife or girlfriend.
great job!