The FCHAO Inverter Experience (aka Peter Inverter) 🤡 Another Chinese inverter or actually good?

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  • So, I have used the FCHAO 'Peter' inverter for a while now and have pushed it through all sort of scenarios: EV charging, electric chainsaw, garden shredder and also buck-charging our big battery.
    I know testing an inverter is not quite a fun video to watch, right? So... well watch this one and see for yourself...
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  • @alexandergunda8916
    @alexandergunda8916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi Andy, based on your great review of this device I have ordered myself, only as a 48V version (by asking nicely the factory shop). The delivery was in amazingly 7 days from the order (CN - AT). The build quality is very good. Thank you for pointing me to this Inverter. 👍👍

    • @gloriaguo-vh8or
      @gloriaguo-vh8or 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for your support.😀😀😀

  • @danfitzpatrick4112
    @danfitzpatrick4112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I think the community would gladly accept you doing reviews Andy. No shame in that with your experience. If it makes you happy? Go for it. You have created a great channel and an even better resource for knowledge of battery technology and more. You work hard and have earned any wealth you may get from your channel. Don't forget to sit down every once in a while and listen to the birds chirping ... : )

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks a lot, Dan. This made my day!

    • @Browneye2566
      @Browneye2566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia Frogs. He means frogs, not birds. Remember to listen to the frogs chirping. Or croaking. Or whatever frogs do. Haha

    • @RikHaanen
      @RikHaanen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do agree with Dan, German quality reviews are always useful

    • @kevinh7985
      @kevinh7985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fully agree with Dan. Your “reviews”are well balanced and objective. Your credentials are outstanding. Please continue. Cheers Kevin H

    • @onthelake9554
      @onthelake9554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I approve this message .

  • @FCHAOPOWER
    @FCHAOPOWER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you so much for your review, Andy. What a great testing!!! 🥰 hahah...but we are not "peter", we can read our brand like letters F C H A O has no word pronunciation. Welcome to pay attention to our new brand and new products. 👍

    • @adon8672
      @adon8672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You seriously need to give your products/company a much better name internationally. You can retain your old name within China.

    • @viddotcoach
      @viddotcoach 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Ef See Hach Aye Oh" is a mouthful and makes zero sense, I actually prefer "fe-chow!" - and that's pretty terrible!

  • @davgregeric
    @davgregeric 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Recently bought the 48V 3000W version blindly off AliExpress, and was most impress. Came here and found you had similar favourable experience. Peter starts making beeping warnings when you stray into peak power > 3000W loading, but keeps on going while you sort out the overload. Happy to have found your channel through this product.

  • @energieundhobby
    @energieundhobby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Got up, opened Off-Grid Garage on PC and the day can come =)
    The "Peter inverter"... i throw myself away 😂😂

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks a lot. I'll make more video for you then 😂🤡

    • @jacksmith3951
      @jacksmith3951 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣 nice name peter inverter

  • @JohnP58
    @JohnP58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a timing, was investigating on pure sine inverter. Up here in the north hemisphere we’re in the period of RV (travelling and living on solar energy, it’s summer and it’s hot!) and your channel is … pretty entertaining and very knowledgeable. Thanks for your enthousiasme and time. 👍

  • @pacifist2829
    @pacifist2829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you of sharing experience. I bought three Powland 5000W inverters from Aliexpress. Now after couple of weeks two of them are burned for overload even I didn't use more than 2300W. Now we bought couple of these Peter inverters and lets see if they are working. My plans are to charge my car (2220W continuous load) and drink some coffee (1550W).

    • @rm6857
      @rm6857 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      5000w is surge, its rated 2500w

  • @peterclark2872
    @peterclark2872 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Andy - It was great to see someone actually test the inverter fully. Not everyone shows the pure sine wave as you have on your display. Yes I also love the display, and the info it gives you. I recently bought a (pure sine wave Inverter) with great specs. It actually has PURE SINE WAVE on the front panel. When I tested it, it turned out to be a modified sine wave. I got my money back, but there are units being sold as Pure, and are far from it! Thanks - I can now purchase a FCHAO with confidence.

  • @davidwilde4896
    @davidwilde4896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Andy, great video as always.
    I bought a 12v 2300w Peter inverter on the back of your testing and at first I thought it is great!
    However mine shuts down when the batteries reach just over 13.5 volts with low battery warning beeping etc. the inverter displays a DC input voltage of 13.5 volts; the BMS and Smartshunt confirm this voltage so I assume the cut-off voltage is set incorrectly. Not so good quality control at FCHAO I guess.
    Trying to work with FCHAO to resolve this issue but not having much luck, they are just pointing finger at batteries every time.
    PS. this is happening when only running refrigerator and freezer which is a really low load for such an inverter so voltage is not being dragged down suddenly or anything like that and it doesn't reset either.
    Hardware: Lifepo4 200ah prismatic cells JK BMS, Vitron MPPT, Smartshunt and AC Charger + RasPi
    Keep up the good work
    Dave W

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, wow, that is not good. Shoot me an email and I can probably give you some email addresses at FCHAO to contact. Keep pushing, they have to replace or fix it!
      Thanks for sharing.

    • @dino5002
      @dino5002 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how did you go. I was just about to order one until I read this

    • @davidwilde4896
      @davidwilde4896 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dino5002 They said I could return it for a full refund but the shipping was too costly. We came to an arrangement on a discount rather than full refund. I have since changed some components and have it working satisfactorily now.

    • @dino5002
      @dino5002 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidwilde4896 thanks. do you mean components in the inverter or in your setup?

    • @davidwilde4896
      @davidwilde4896 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@dino5002in the inverter

  • @jameshancock
    @jameshancock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I noticed the Tesla app was showing only 207v.
    I’d bet it’s based on the esg200 inverter riser card. They’re fine until under load because they don’t feedback properly to bring the voltage up.
    That distortion is because at the zero voltage crossing they’re one step ahead of themselves which is a bug in all esg100/200 inverter controllers.
    The older inverter definitely has the esg100/200 control board so it will sag badly and have noise as the zero crossing.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the explanation. Never had any problems using the Xijia inverter and could discharge the battery with full 3kW for a few hours.

  • @dino5002
    @dino5002 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    another great video thanks. Would be VERY interested to see what we can do on the RS485 bus. Can we connected to the venus system???? Think you're a little harsh on the "multi" function display.... it does show a lot of information that could be considered "multi" :). . It seems that the standby current on this is very reasonable. 10W is much better than inverters like Giandel which is about twice this. Showing the output sinewave is a great test (thanks). Would also be interesting to show efficiency at different loads. Maybe an idea for a future video?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We don't know the protocol of this port unfortunately. I can reach out to them and ask if they make it public. Someone should be able to figure out how to connect it to Victron.

  • @DenBozhok
    @DenBozhok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    using 1800w (12v->220) model for almost 2.5 years now. for me it's not fun, but a necessity (located in Ukraine). works stable and on small loads - silent (up to 500w fans are off)
    thanks for the interesting channel and materials!

  • @TrevorFraserAU
    @TrevorFraserAU 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have watched so many of your videos I actually forgot about this one... I have a green Peter inverter on the way to me. Thanks again for your great channel and the service you provide to the community.

    • @bildad1234
      @bildad1234 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you in Australia? Am interested 8n knowing price 8ncl7ding shipping in au dollars

  • @luispendragon6551
    @luispendragon6551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was looking for an inverter to make an air conditioner solar powered instalation for my van and since 12v compressors are crazy expensive and low power too. I think I will try with the Peter inverter since It looks to take well initial peak of current. Thank you again for the fun of learning!!

  • @paulfrederiksen5639
    @paulfrederiksen5639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really liked that you ran a bunch of landscaping equipment with the battery and inverter. Real world usage tests are so useful for us ordinary people. Thank you!

  • @photonphil873
    @photonphil873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Andy!!!!!!!!! You continue to amaze me!!! Absolutely AWSOME work and information! Thank You!

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot Phil and thanks a lot for your support here on the channel!

  • @electrodacus
    @electrodacus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is interesting. I occasionally recommend that renogy inverter and nobody complained about it. I will now need to recommend the Peter inverter :)

  • @mullerenergy
    @mullerenergy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering why there was a massive influx of member requests on our Facebook group, this video gives me the answer! 😄
    Thanks Andy, another funtertaining video!

    • @FCHAOPOWER
      @FCHAOPOWER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Muller Energy, nice to meet you here😁 thanks Andy for letting us know each other.🤝

  • @JayDee25895
    @JayDee25895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best channel on TH-cam that I have found!

  • @PAUL-ci9fc
    @PAUL-ci9fc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Andy i have just got my cells so will start my channel soon

  • @twentysevenlitres
    @twentysevenlitres 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Based on your experience with the 'Peter' Inverter, I have ordered both a 3000W and a 1200W in the 24V version.
    I decided to go with 'Peter' instead of Renogy, partly based on your review, and partly because I wasn't happy getting 3000W out of 12V (requiring 275A at 90% efficiency - up to 330A when the battery is low) and I couldn't find a fuse bus for the fuses I was happy with. But at 24V, it all halves!
    I've got 200A continuous at 24V to play with, so at 4200W (4667W@90%) I just get there at 194A.
    Yes, I know, that jumps to 230A at 20V when the battery is low, and the inverters may not give 90% efficiency, but I'm also very unlikely to be asking for peak power continuously out of both inverters. I just want to be able to run power tools and lights in my workshop, which is currently (and may remain) unpowered.

  • @pcarlson1979
    @pcarlson1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andy!! I just tried running my garden mulcher from my Renogy 3000w and it sounded like your chainsaw, barely moved then inverter shut down. Love your videos. Keep it up 👍

  • @noelbondad7423
    @noelbondad7423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoy watching you Andy regardless of topic. I seem to learn something new from every video. I am emailing you my 24v system soon with the fridge and freezer 24 hour consumption in kwh as you asked. 😀

  • @dymasych6931
    @dymasych6931 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey, nice review.
    Can you tell this inverter turns fans under 600W?

  • @tesemos
    @tesemos 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bought the 1800W Inverter based on your review directly from the FCHAO shop in december 2023. Unfortunately the device released its smoke 8 months later with a load under 250W and i don't use it every day. It was in use for around 30 hours total. Of course no reaction from FCHAO Shop.

    • @billdonald3671
      @billdonald3671 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My guess is Andy got a good one (particularly as they sent it to him, they would have checked it to make sure it worked properly). Also guessing the rest of us have to make do with pot luck and their poor quality control as the one I got had multiple problems and there was no response from support.
      In future I would only trust a product review where the reviewer blindly buys the item, NOT where the company knows who the recipient is. (This is not a criticism of Andy).

  • @S56JSC
    @S56JSC 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi. Nice review! One china inverter is better then renogy :)
    Most problem for inverters are fridges and freezers. Can you do test with this?

  • @viddotcoach
    @viddotcoach 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually just bought the same Renogy 3kw inverter (unopened) and then read elsewhere re same load/amp issues, and then watched this. Feel like I'm motivated to return the Renogy.
    How's the FCHAO, I mean Peter, held up?

  • @nedstar7378
    @nedstar7378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video thanks for sharing, questions, 1) can this inverter also connect directly on solar panels ? 2) Has it MTTP ?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it needs a battery to connect to. There is no solar charge controller included.

  • @phillipzan2005
    @phillipzan2005 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the review. I live in the US so we run mostly on 110 VAC. With that potentiometer I would assume that I could lower the voltage to that, considering that We have options of 50 and 60 hz output frequency when buying the inverter..

  • @butchwilliams7637
    @butchwilliams7637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It has orange colored ends. Which makes it outstanding.

  • @LienoGenesis
    @LienoGenesis หลายเดือนก่อน

    Slightly concerning how smaller the internal FCHAO heat sinks are compared to the other model, which would indicate a shorter life due to heat?

  • @timetotalkwatches7185
    @timetotalkwatches7185 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video, and channel, you have given me precious info that has helped me set up my FV system. About inverters, I am using an EPever 4kw 48V IP-Plus series Inverter. It has an anti spark feature which I have never seen on other products. The inverter has a series resistor inside which remains connected until the Input Caps Reach a high enough charge. I have tried it and it works great, with only a tiny tiny spark. I have had my cable lugs literaly welded to the terminals with other brand 4kw inverters!

  • @videowatcher4122
    @videowatcher4122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your "review" made me decide to purchase this. Seem like a good buy. Thanks.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm using it almost every weekend with the chainsaw out in the bush. It works really great with this large load and has not let me down.

  • @linc11
    @linc11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Andy maybe i missed a comment below but looking at the Peter Inverter i did not notice any earthing /equal potential bonding at the outlets and the exposed metal case , this would be considered a IT earthing system if it were fitted and if they are missing then this is a safety issue for class 1 appliances , can you confirm the earth pins are connected to each other and the exposed metal of the Inverter , In the meantime i have also sent an email to ask if the output L2 can be bonded to Earth /Frame but i have not heard back as of yet

  • @jo8ephthomas
    @jo8ephthomas ปีที่แล้ว

    The renogy stops because it’s reached its plug limit per single plug, it’s a safety feature. If you hard wire both outlets into a consumer unit and work from that it should work ok for bigger loads.

    • @markurian6883
      @markurian6883 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unsure why it'd be limited to under 10A on a single outlet. 10A is the standard outlet amperage in Australia, allowing 2.3kw. The chainsaw is only drawing 1.1kw. It may have a high inrush current, but that being only momentary, should not trip out an inverter that is adequately designed.

  • @gumpster6
    @gumpster6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good experience video - thanks for sharing. It seems to make the Renogy look bad. The only thing I think could be added might be a quick mention of price compared with the other inverters you showed.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was going to do that price comparison but it is wildly varying between currency. The Renogy is cheaper than the FCHAO in Australia but more expensive in the US 🤷‍♂️

  • @1StanTheMan1
    @1StanTheMan1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you did a peak current test, that would be nice. Also can you overload it?> Dos it work/fault? I just received a 24vDC US unit. it's a 220 output, is there an internal dipswitch to make it 110VAC? Good video, if you tested further, you might give it four frogs. Curious for more testing. Thanks!

  • @yousefsaadeh7144
    @yousefsaadeh7144 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now we need to know what is the problem with renogy!? Did you contact the support 😅 that’s disappointing because i order one

  • @bishwagit
    @bishwagit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Andy...
    Great review.
    Can you please demonstrate that how to adjust output voltage of xia inverter?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's pretty much the same. If you open it up, there is a potentiometer right in the middle of the PCB. It's the only one, so you can't miss it.

  • @edc1569
    @edc1569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    24 or 48V just makes more sense, we need more portable batteries working at these voltages.

  • @JonoPace-jo3eg
    @JonoPace-jo3eg 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What are the actual dimensions of this inverter? Im tight for room and kinda need exact figure's. Is it 26.5cm wide from side to side or is it 26.5cm from the outside edge of mounting points? Thanks

  • @DigitalMind.254
    @DigitalMind.254 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I use this as offgrid inverter for home appliances for 24h operation? Or this is only for emergency uses ?

  • @typxxilps
    @typxxilps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Consider getting a growatt inverter which does nt need a fan, no cooling noise and a very reliable power house.
    We got the second one, just 3000W for 500€ for a Growatt mic 3000 with up to 3800 Wp on the module side.
    No need for such 380€ inverter not having proofed anything close to reliability .
    You simply get the noise of a hair dryer.

  • @krg038
    @krg038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good test and review. I think for your outdoor equipment it would be less costly to make a nice heavy extension cord 😂. thanks Andy for the practical testing.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm really keen to take the battery and inverter out in the bush to cut firewood with the electric chainsaw. It is so much more powerful than the petrol saw I have which is just disgusting with all the fumes.

    • @i_know_nothing7788
      @i_know_nothing7788 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia Electric chainsaws are far more dangerous than petrol because PPE works by tangling the chain and stalling the motor. This is much more difficult because torque curves are completely different. Electric motor torque is at maximum at zero revs; ICE have zero torque at zero revs so they stall.

  • @stevedeschryver
    @stevedeschryver 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Peter,
    Did get any information on the RS485 communication please ?

  • @edwardvanhazendonk
    @edwardvanhazendonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about the rs485 interface, did it work? Truthful review, thanks, again!

  • @chuxxsss
    @chuxxsss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Andy, after looking these up, their peak power is double the output. So when you first start a power to you hit peak power or a surge of power. That is different to the other invertor as its peak is the 3000 W. Where as Peter is 6000 W. By the way please stop sending rain, mate, we have had enough.

  • @OZ1DK
    @OZ1DK 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about to make longer test, we can trust:) Cooking a whole meal (1700-2200w) for 20-30min plus some microwave and let see if we want that for our RC home

  • @thomasobermuller8848
    @thomasobermuller8848 ปีที่แล้ว

    perfect report, clear spoken, very helpful and a lot of informations! Great!

  • @johthe
    @johthe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How does the Renogy inverter sinewave look like with different loads? Mine 3000W inverter got a bit similar issue. Under load it dropped out and could not power things correctly. It turned out it had a turn on relay that was soldered in thruehole instead of crimped in correctly. And it only got some connection just to trigger that it was alright with light loads. With some extra wirecrimp and new solde I fixed it.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, thank you. I had it open once and could see all the relays inside. I thought they are more for the MEN link when not running on grid power. I'll have a look. Weird thing is, it only freaks out under certain loads.

    • @FutureSystem738
      @FutureSystem738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia It can handle steady load as you’ve proven before I recall Andy, but in my opinion, just can’t handle the very short surge start up current- even though it’s only a fraction of a second.
      It’s certainly enough to make me reconsider buying a Renogy inverter.
      I have Giandel 12v inverters in the van (a 1.2kW and a 2kW) and have had no issues, … touch wood.

  • @TRSGutters
    @TRSGutters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Andy, this may be a noob question but.....can you please explain how you tested for voltage drop across those wires? I've never seen that done before.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure

    • @DavidHalko
      @DavidHalko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It looks like he put a test lead on each side of the wire with a current running across, it should show the voltage drop

  • @PAULNAT
    @PAULNAT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for that Andy, I need a new inverter I will have a look at there site. Just a question how much power or energy would you get in to the tesla from that battery, (how many kilometers) also do you know what price they are going to be brining that batter out for.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Paul, the battery has a bit over 2.1kWh of energy stored. Considering the efficiency of the 12V inverter and the Tesla charger, you probably end up with 1.5kWh in the vehicle's battery. That gives you a range of around 10km.
      You can already buy the Muller Battery here but maybe wait for their 2.0 version and included improvements: mullerenergy.com.au/

  • @McAlistarBlaser
    @McAlistarBlaser 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello . Please tell me if I can use a welding machine with this inverter? (my welding machine used 2.4 mm electrodes and a welding current of ~ 90A ... but I can't say what voltage it uses on the output, probably somewhere around ~50v in operation and probably more when starting)

  • @st5rk
    @st5rk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since the provided cables are inadequate, what gauge would you recommend for this inverter at 12v 3kW?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm using the twin pair cables which came with the inverter and they work OK. Running my garden tools with 1.5-2.5kW does not cause any problems.
      If you are planning to run higher loads for a long time, the cable diameter depends on the the length and voltage drop you may receive for your specific installation.

  • @MrHoshi90
    @MrHoshi90 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andy! do you know if it works or have tried to connect the peter inverter to the victron vrm system?
    Trough this 2 small bus wires you showed in the video.
    Really great videos which helped me alot building my pv systsm.
    Lg aus Südtirol

  • @RikHaanen
    @RikHaanen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this review Andy. Is there a way to program the Low Voltage Disconnect and reconnect for this inverter or is it fixed? And if it is fixed, at what values?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Rik, it is a fixed value and cannot be changed. In my tests, it cut out at around 10.8V under load (2.7V/cell).

    • @JacanaHelp
      @JacanaHelp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia Thanks a lot Andy, we are using lead-acid batteries in Zambia. Would you agree that 10.8V is way to low and will damage the batteries? We normally set Low Voltage Disconnect (LVD) to 11.8V. I am even thinking to use the DC load output from our programmable PWM controllers to activate a relay and switch of inverters that don't have the correct LVD. Do you have any thoughts about this?

  • @shadyabdalazeem9274
    @shadyabdalazeem9274 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Plz sir .. do u prefer fchao inverter or eafc inverter ?
    Thnx❤

  • @dtvking
    @dtvking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Peter inverter does the job but I'm surprised the Renogy does not work as well.
    Reading the other reviews and looking at the spec sheet on the Renogy 3000w it should have a surge output of 6000w, so my thinking is......is your one faulty? maybe worth testing the output FETs, you could have a couple failed limiting the output power.
    I had a similar issue with an EASUN POWER Solar Inverter.
    Thanks for the in-depth testing (not review) lol

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Mark.
      That could be that case. I wonder how I could test the Renogy without de-soldering all FETs inside this inverter. I probably charge the vehicle from it again and see how high I can push it as this is an (almost) pure resistive load.

  • @pulith5220
    @pulith5220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you do a video explaining how to calculate the wire gauges with drop of electricity when using long cables. It's a good thing to learn.

  • @fibranijevidra
    @fibranijevidra ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Andy, would you be kind to show us where on the board is connected RS485? I cannot google any details about it.

  • @lennieadi
    @lennieadi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review Andy. How did you get around the earthing issue when in the bush with the wheelbarrow. I didn't see a grounding rod?

  • @EKKOzhou-u5i
    @EKKOzhou-u5i หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seeing the comment section, I am very thankful to all of you for your support trust and understanding of our products! ,I am the FCHAO brand factory

    • @billdonald3671
      @billdonald3671 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shame you don't answer support emails and provide no warranty for Australians.

    • @user-re3ys2le4z
      @user-re3ys2le4z 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Couldn't find 120V version

    • @EKKOzhou-u5i
      @EKKOzhou-u5i 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-re3ys2le4z i m sorry,my company do not 110v-120v

  • @jamesbounsall5478
    @jamesbounsall5478 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is this going 1 year on? I have inverters that keep breaking down so looking at swapping a few out. Thanks!

  • @BobHannent
    @BobHannent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David Poz has a good load, he uses a hot water element in a barrel of water as a heatsink.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I've seen that. I usually use the vehicle charger for that so I get the energy partly back. I'll test again.

  • @74hoppy
    @74hoppy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance of doing a video comparing Modified sine wave vs Pure sine wave inverters running inverter appliances including efficiency? I mean appliances that turn the AC input into DC internally. Most of my house now runs these including fridge, washing machine. aircon with 500w input, ceiling fans, battery chargers etc. Also suspect all of them have basically no measurable inrush current. There seems a good number of older quality inverters for sale that are MSW. Inductive loads I think there would be a big difference in efficiency.

  • @CollinBaillie
    @CollinBaillie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That remote display is multi-function.
    1. Displays all the info
    2. Remote on/off switch

  • @chrisfryer3118
    @chrisfryer3118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 2.8kw petrol generator can't run a shredder. So have I wasted my money on a Victron Phoneix 24/3000 then? (£775)

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 3kW Phoenix can definitely run the chainsaw and the shredder. That was my main inverter before I got the Multi.

  • @ulysse31_aka_nix
    @ulysse31_aka_nix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Real great video ^^
    Thanks a lot
    btw: in french "Peter" ... is the verb "to fart" ... not sure if its a real good choice ... :D

  • @dorinoss
    @dorinoss 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After a year of use, is this device still working efficiently?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, absolutely! I still use it with all my garden tools and machinery. Best inverter.

  • @thomasgerlach5391
    @thomasgerlach5391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hallo,Do think i can load a elektric VW Golf with the mobil transformer? I need 6A, 2300 Watt. My pv modules have 5,5 kwp. I want buy the fchao 6000watt (12v or better 24v?) and for powerqueen 12v lifepo4 batteries. Please response, thank you very much. Thomas

  • @hmarc417
    @hmarc417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Review, AWESOME... You have someone watching you though. @28.21 , You have a black cat sitting on the shelf behind you, right above your right shoulder. He is watching every move you make. CCHHEERRSSSSS ( the Off-Grid Garage mascot. ) :-)))

  • @pacifist2829
    @pacifist2829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What we would need is overload test for these chinese 3000 - 12000w inverters. Do they really have overload protection. Will they be able to power off the load correctly if it gets too high.

  • @Dutch_off_grid_homesteading
    @Dutch_off_grid_homesteading 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heya, hope your gone do a lot work with tthis "peter" inverter need 1 for in my car wen I went in to the forrest to cut wood have a similar kind of chainsage as your thanks

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 'Peter' is still going strong and is the best 12V inverter I have ever used.
      They also make them in 24V and 498 now.
      off-grid-garage.com/inverters/

  • @jmaus2k
    @jmaus2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Peter needs 48V for sure. Also it should have an adjustable low voltage shutoff.

    • @steffen1182
      @steffen1182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i agree

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      None of these inverters have usually anything adjustable. Not in this price class...

  • @caroman6761
    @caroman6761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I prefer the EPEVER Inverters, they are also very robust. But I never tested the Peter Inverters, possibly I also should test this one ......

  • @StaleCookies
    @StaleCookies 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol you’re so funny it makes learning the things I need to learn so much better

  • @boscodog4358
    @boscodog4358 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Epever and my Chins don't seem to like each other.
    The batteries shut off at high voltage 28.2 voltage. Is the manufacturer suggested setting correct

  • @keyem4504
    @keyem4504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To me the internal cabling looked a little weak as well. What was your impression?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's 6mm2 cable for each of the 6 channels. That seems to be sufficient.

  • @MartyBrisbane
    @MartyBrisbane 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review Andy. I will shout you a Öttinger in the German club

  • @mahumuc5491
    @mahumuc5491 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Test - Could you please test the RS485 Andy ? Is it somehow possible to integrate it into the victron environment ? Liebe Grüße aus München

  • @lgcacher9205
    @lgcacher9205 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL😅 pronounced the name before renaming it. I like how you do the real world test. I heard the renogy inverter are not that good but I did not know why they did not explain what the problem was .. So thank you for the comparison . I thought the Peter inverter was going to scrap but it surprised me. To bad they do not make for my country. Keep doing the good videos and how we say on the radio 73's

  • @Silvije2
    @Silvije2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you say something about proper grounding/earthing for this inverter? Thanks!

  • @svenniefpv
    @svenniefpv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice affordable inverter that looks promising in the long run. And nice to see they have a eu option. Thank’s for a great honest opinion.By the way i have a question. Do you still need a (smart) shunt if you have a smart bms to keep and predict that your battery staying safe and healty? It look like smartbms can do more than a shunt. And if you program your smart bms in a safe range, it protects your battery and if giv3s also a good indication of SOC?

  • @georgeknowles5384
    @georgeknowles5384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always good to see a 3,000Watt converter, but' from a 12Volt "WOW"!! Like it on the heavy side!! Needing "BIG" batteries!! I am more for a 50 to 60Volt battery, working with a smaller current would not need a wheel-barrow thenLOL All you need next is a cast ion stove, to burn all your waste wood in, while keeping a pan of water on the boil for a cuppa now and again. Interesting video again thanks, regards George.

  • @markl4528
    @markl4528 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How was inverter pulling over 200amps but that anderson was rated to 175a??

  • @photonphil873
    @photonphil873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the usable power! Chain saw.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, this inverter works great with all my heavy power tools, no problem.

    • @pcarlson1979
      @pcarlson1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia my Renogy 3000w won’t rub my garden shredder. Just beeps

  • @budmartin3344
    @budmartin3344 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. @14:21 I see 11.4Vdc on the display when the load is 1963W, the Daly shows 12.6V on the battery, so you have Vdrops of each wire = 12.6V -11.4V = 1.2V/2 = 0.6V on each wire.
    Too bad FCHAO do not make for 120VAC US market.

    • @walkerman4221
      @walkerman4221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need to talk with their stuff. I guess their main market is the EU and they are opening the AU market.

  • @davef.2329
    @davef.2329 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone told me to use the terminal block connections for max-load applications on the Renogy, or others like it. I have an inverter that won't start a small air compressor on the outlets, but it runs just fine on the terminal block wiring. With no terminal block on the Fchao Peter, the outlets appear to be more sturdily wired and with soldered connections. Are the 40A fuses soldered into the circuit boards here, also? That's a pain in the ass.

  • @michael_the_chef
    @michael_the_chef ปีที่แล้ว

    All of these inverters have the same Problem, no adjustable low voltage cut off, can you use the rs something serial connector to turn it on or off through a charge Controller or battery shunt?

  • @thomasschwarzenberger8943
    @thomasschwarzenberger8943 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, bekommt man eine Anzeige hin wenn der FCHAO mit dem cerbo verbunden wird?

  • @maxmeyer7299
    @maxmeyer7299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andi, why ddo you don't have test RS485 Port, what can you do with it?

  • @DigitalMind.254
    @DigitalMind.254 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will it run home load like fridge washing machine iron lights fans?

  • @therealslimwallet7606
    @therealslimwallet7606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andy, really cool how you deal with the manufacturers. The power of the users is with you :-).
    Apart from that, your videos have helped me a lot in terms of the translations (and meanings) of the technical terms (I'm also an Alibaba customer). Thank you for letting us share your thoughts.
    Maybe a 3-phase converter will be sent to you in the future and you can do a test report on the subject. I have some 3-phase devices that I would like to be able to operate off-grid.
    Beste Grüße aus Troisdorf
    Dieter

  • @barikmohammed1700
    @barikmohammed1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Sir , would you please tell me if we can connect two of this inverter in parallel . Thank you in advance.

  • @georgecantu3779
    @georgecantu3779 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like its modified inverter (renogy) sorry just started to watch your channel lol

  • @mjp0815
    @mjp0815 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andy, this 3000w inverter uses fairly little standby current, what about the standby of the large inverters in your Garage???

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've shown this already in a video here at around the 9min mark: th-cam.com/video/zRi8EL2P-HM/w-d-xo.html

  • @dig1035
    @dig1035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the efficiency and idle consumption, please?

    • @gubbernl
      @gubbernl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same!
      I also want to use it in my garage, connected to a 12v battery run on solar power, with remote display. So, standby current should be as low as possible:-)

  • @lonebird7534
    @lonebird7534 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Andy!
    Considering buying this inverter. Here in Kyiv, Ukraine we have now regular electricity turn off after russian rocket shelling: 4-5 hours AC on and 4 hrs off every day. So this inverter (in my case 1500W) + some 12V car battery is really solution to keep light, internet router and charge phones, notebooks. Just needed review to choose proper inverter among many on Aliexpress. So thanks for detailed review with tests, oscillograph and disassembling!

    • @yuriythebest
      @yuriythebest ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi! I'm in Kyiv oblast and was researching this exact thing! Did you choose the 220v or 230v model?Ukraine now has 230v as ГОСТ but I think it's better for the batteries if it's 220? Also what type of batteries will you use? Did you buy from aliexpress? I checked and the shipping is 110$ :( How long did it take to be delivered?

    • @lonebird7534
      @lonebird7534 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yuriythebest , actually both 220V and 230V would be Ok. All equipment works well in wider range. Only if battery is drained or if the load is too high - voltage may drop till 200V (whatever version 220V or 230V you choose), and this is not good for some equipment, e.g. for electric motors - they would be heated more. Equipment with impulse power supply (e.g. notebooks) are very tolerate to voltage. So do not bother with choosing 220V or 230V, better choose proper battery.

    • @lonebird7534
      @lonebird7534 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yuriythebest , concerning battery: I had experience with lead batteries (with normal acid filled starter battery and with gel-filled). These batteries tolerate high Amp discharge and works good if not discharged deep: if you never go below 11.8-11.9V (30-40% charge) they will work well. But if you go lower - the battery will degrade irreversibly. Once you go under 11V - lead-acid battery will loose substantial part of it capacity. Gel battery more tolerate to low voltage, but much more expensive. LiIon battery in this sense is theoretically much more applicable. But price is too high. I do not have experience with such voltage invertor and LiIon battery usage, only used to small 18650 cells. Maybe others can comment better. So my choice is high-capacity lead-acid battery + this invertor. Such batteries are still available in Kyiv. Only important to keep eyes on battery Voltage to stop invertor when it close to low 11.8V value. I have CTEK charging device to recharge lead-acid batteries, so hope this combination would be OK.

  • @rossedwards525
    @rossedwards525 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andy! I need your expertise I’m using similar batteries that you are in a 24 V configuration at 320 amp hours, i’m using overkill Solar BMS , I’m using Magnum Energy solar controller and inverter. I keep bouncing between overkills tech-support and Magnum Energy‘s tech-support to get the settings worked out so everything‘s happy so far it’s still isn’t working like it should are you going to help me? I am on a true off the grid situation I’m on a 70 foot yacht trying to make it completely self-sufficient. Anything you can contribute would be wonderful.
    Thank you
    Ross

  • @olafschermann1592
    @olafschermann1592 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12V & 24V inverters you can get for an apple. 48V ones are rare 😕