I think it’s better to build a custom WordPress from scratch if you want more flexibility and it’s supported so you don’t have to worry too much about updates and upgrades
100% Agreed. I have just about finished my custom WordPress site. Fully custom PHP, HTML plugins... you name it. I did this because I started off not knowing much about web development. But now coming out of the end of it. I feel comfortable using NodeJS frameworks - FrontEnd Frame works and - As is mentioned here Laravel. I think for my next project - if it was more than a simple blog (As this was - An LMS ) I would 100% recommend going with Laravel or some other Framework (Like Nest.js) if you have the budget or skills. If not - I do think wordpress still has a place for being a resource rich ecosystem to get up and started. Wordpress isn't bad. Not by a long shot. But it does things in a very "Wordpress" way sometimes. And for some problems it is like banging a nail with a wrench. It will work. But might not be the best. Thanks for a great video.
Great breakdown man. I love your videos. I agree with all of your points, WordPress is great for an MVP, but if it's hard to "fit" your business logic and there are no plugins for it, it's time to go custom.
surprised you didn't mention you could use both - wp for frontend cms with laravel backend and db, there are such hybrids and basically - the more data heavy site the more wp will f* up on you as it gets slower and slower. But you wouldnt imagine how far people can go with wp customization. Besides, if you follow the plugin and widgets writing methodology it works just fine.
I'm actually evaluating a recovery job that is a hybrid. From a tech point there are no issues. But from a business point the head of tech faces huge headaches. His wp section continues to go thru lots of bad practices while his laravel section is under funded. Management has a hard time understanding why laravel costs so much while WP has plugins that 'get the job done'.
I understand how Laravel works. But I prefer WordPress because it saves a lot of time. WordPress is also a framework not just a CMS. By the way I'm a WordPress Developer.
@@crystall_sh Wordpress is just the most popular web builder. Just by popularity alone it's going to be popular to hackers too. As long as you keep the base wordpress updated, and you don't pick some random no stars theme you should be fine
@@crystall_sh yes wordpress less secure but you can create plugin that secure ur wordpress or even try defender wp plugin it's makes wordpress 100% secure
Hi Lionel, I know what I am asking has nothing to do with WordPress but in some way it does. On the news today it was mentioned that Shopify will fire or has fired 10% of their staff. Do you have an opinion on the possibility on this event effecting the WordPress environment and PHP? Just a curiosity and concern since I just started learning PHP and WordPress for freelancing.
Laravel is a PHP framework. So is Wordpress. Why load up custom frameworks/more code to do what you can already do in WP? WP has all the Database methods you need, all the override functionality you need in child themes, all the hooks/filters, etc. The only time you really have to write any code to make a custom utility function or something is for something custom like an addition to a child theme or custom plugin. So, the question is, why would I load a framework on top of an already developed framework? With performance in mind, of course.
it's open-source but it's under GPLv2 (or later) meaning if you customize WordPress core then you have to make this customized version of WordPress open source meaning you have to make it publically available, WordPress has a lot of problems but it's best for the prototyping or MVP.
Your dead wrong. I use WordPress for my job and you can code super custom solutions just like Laravel. Laravel is a little easier to code in some ways. Both can achieve the same results.
I think it’s better to build a custom WordPress from scratch if you want more flexibility and it’s supported so you don’t have to worry too much about updates and upgrades
100% Agreed. I have just about finished my custom WordPress site. Fully custom PHP, HTML plugins... you name it. I did this because I started off not knowing much about web development. But now coming out of the end of it. I feel comfortable using NodeJS frameworks - FrontEnd Frame works and - As is mentioned here Laravel. I think for my next project - if it was more than a simple blog (As this was - An LMS ) I would 100% recommend going with Laravel or some other Framework (Like Nest.js) if you have the budget or skills.
If not - I do think wordpress still has a place for being a resource rich ecosystem to get up and started. Wordpress isn't bad. Not by a long shot. But it does things in a very "Wordpress" way sometimes. And for some problems it is like banging a nail with a wrench. It will work. But might not be the best.
Thanks for a great video.
couldn't agree more
as a wordpress and laravel developer, base on my experience wordpress for website laravel for webapp, that's it.
We can create plugins if we want and customize everything, even changing core of wp
Great breakdown man. I love your videos. I agree with all of your points, WordPress is great for an MVP, but if it's hard to "fit" your business logic and there are no plugins for it, it's time to go custom.
surprised you didn't mention you could use both - wp for frontend cms with laravel backend and db, there are such hybrids and basically - the more data heavy site the more wp will f* up on you as it gets slower and slower. But you wouldnt imagine how far people can go with wp customization. Besides, if you follow the plugin and widgets writing methodology it works just fine.
I'm actually evaluating a recovery job that is a hybrid. From a tech point there are no issues. But from a business point the head of tech faces huge headaches. His wp section continues to go thru lots of bad practices while his laravel section is under funded. Management has a hard time understanding why laravel costs so much while WP has plugins that 'get the job done'.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 well if it's just human factor then the job is to convince people to change approach or ... find another place to work ;)
I suggest persons learn PHP first before they go to Laravel
Yes look under the hood first.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 Good video, thanks for the suggestions here too guys.
I understand how Laravel works. But I prefer WordPress because it saves a lot of time. WordPress is also a framework not just a CMS.
By the way I'm a WordPress Developer.
But i heard that WordPress is an easy target for hackers
@@crystall_sh Wordpress is just the most popular web builder. Just by popularity alone it's going to be popular to hackers too. As long as you keep the base wordpress updated, and you don't pick some random no stars theme you should be fine
@@crystall_sh yes wordpress less secure but you can create plugin that secure ur wordpress or even try defender wp plugin it's makes wordpress 100% secure
Sorry dude but I think you don't understand how WordPress core works.
Hi Lionel, I know what I am asking has nothing to do with WordPress but in some way it does. On the news today it was mentioned that Shopify will fire or has fired 10% of their staff. Do you have an opinion on the possibility on this event effecting the WordPress environment and PHP? Just a curiosity and concern since I just started learning PHP and WordPress for freelancing.
Video coming out soon
@@lionelthetechlead8839 looking forward to the video!
But why don’t AWS & Azure support Laravel but WordPress?
to be honest, wordpress is a beast and you wont be able to get by without coding if using it professionally.
Laravel is a PHP framework. So is Wordpress. Why load up custom frameworks/more code to do what you can already do in WP? WP has all the Database methods you need, all the override functionality you need in child themes, all the hooks/filters, etc. The only time you really have to write any code to make a custom utility function or something is for something custom like an addition to a child theme or custom plugin. So, the question is, why would I load a framework on top of an already developed framework? With performance in mind, of course.
Thank you
I will be back...
Sorry this might be a dumb question but do you have to pay to use WordPress since it isn't your own code?
its open source
You will pay only for some of the widgets you will need.
@@lionelthetechlead8839 thx.
it's open-source but it's under GPLv2 (or later) meaning if you customize WordPress core then you have to make this customized version of WordPress open source meaning you have to make it publically available, WordPress has a lot of problems but it's best for the prototyping or MVP.
❤
Your dead wrong. I use WordPress for my job and you can code super custom solutions just like Laravel. Laravel is a little easier to code in some ways. Both can achieve the same results.
Which part is wrong?
@@lionelthetechlead8839 WordPress isn't flexible in regards of customizations
WORDPRESS IS CUSTOMIZABLE. THE MORE YOU LEARN THE MORE YOU WILL KNOW.
@@toyezmuller968 yeah maybe but data structures is horrible in wordpress. Always wonderings the sides effects
@@juliencadart3299 Data structure is quite solid. That is why it is so easily extendable. And, the #1 CMS by the numbers for like 15 years in a row.
5000usd for a full wordpress ? como crees!
You bet ya!
@@lionelthetechlead8839 Is it the US market? because where i live its much cheaper
@@haradakin2728 wordpress has a high spread. Its usually based on the clients you deal with
Hi, what email can I send you a business offer?
Just send me a message at contact form at www.wesvault.com