I was at the Vengeance show the weekend of the Benoit murders that happened a few weeks after this. No one knew why he no showed at that time. When they announced that Morrison was gonna replace Benoit in the ECW title match, the dude next to me legit said “must be a family issue.” One of the eeriest things that I’ve ever experienced in hindsight.
@@aldairreynoso2564 Somebody must have known someone that worked on the case. One thing I learned as a smark is that word travels fast between wrestling smarks.
@@jaytrigger8173 Nah, it happened on RAW like they talked about in the video. The next night on ECW, there was an In Memoriam for Vince at the start of the show. Then Vengeance: Night of Champions happened that Sunday Edit: correction, two weeks later
Jesse Ventura aggressively attempting to recruit Vince as he enters his dynamite loaded limo and still persisting as the limo is blown up is top tier Deadlock. Holy fuck, my abs.
@@apassionatenerd.3564 The comments when that XWF review is posted on here are going to be out of pocket...or maybe they're not, dude, we'll have to see about that.
Timestamps (Lots & Lots of 'em): 8:30 Edge and Cena have a house show match 12:27 "You will pay for your transgressions." 13:40 Edge hits the Grime Line 13:52 "Edge, not a punch guy." He might not be able to throw a punch but i hear he's pretty good at throwing ladders. 14:31 "Suck this" 19:35 *The big first draft pick of the night.* A substantial, important draft that really sets the tone for the evening: The Great Khali. 20:04 The Great Khali cummer'd right in his pants when he heard he was getting drafted 22:02 Underwater Demolitions Expert, U.S. Navy Seal & Governor, Jesse "The Body" Ventura appears to dress down Vince for not having a beard & instantly becomes a new Deadlock classic alongside Corsica Joe & Horace Hogan. 23:45 Pulse is ready to wring some necks. 25:45 Jonathan Coachman ESPN-Style shows up, No WWE's Goldust or Big Van Vader. My disappointment is immeasurable. 28:55 CM Punk vs. Carlito, Certified NL Classic. I'll never forget the incredible waistlock exchange they had, the workers were really working that night. 29:34 "Gatorade: is it in you?" 🤨 31:22 I don't wanna know what "Hogan Flavour" tastes like, brother. 32:38 Punk hits the Go To Sleep on Tony 32:48 *The second Draft pick* for the night is based as hell, The Boogeyman is going to ECW! Never forget that The Boogeyman beat Booker T, _at Wrestlemania,_ with the greatest move of all time: *The Falling Chokebomb.* 33:32 Johnny perfectly sums up why i love the Boogeyman, hes such a freak lmfao 34:48 Snoop Dogg thanks Vince For monopolizing Wrestling, mega based. 36:18 Mick Foley practices his Late Night stand up comedy routine. 38:42 Balls Mahoney vs Umanga: Umaga immediately hits the worst move in the history of pro wrestling (Don't @ me.), the Samoan Spike and wins. *The Third Draft Pick:* King Booker 40:42 Steve-O cuts the worst promo in the history of wrestling. 41:24 Bobby Lashley vs..... Chris Benoit... In june of 2007. Yikes. This was Benoit's second to last match. His final match was 13 days later against Elijah Burke. 44:45 *Draft Pick Number 4:* Chris Benoit 45:15 Donald says words. 46:13 The greatest segment in Raw history begins with the Ashley Satellite Townhall, Ashley is suspended because she spilled coffee on Vince but she's also still on the show anyways because its 2007, WCW is dead, and Vince doesn't care. 47:38 The Dogs come out. 50:10 The Dogs start barking. 51:10 Tony explains the very intricate plot of this David Lynch film. 52:23 "This did nothing for Vince or to him." Oh this definitely did something for Vince, it probably got him off. Side note: I tried to count, the boys said old at least 19 times during the Mae & Moolah segment lmfao 54:00 Shiek & Super Fly show up and pulse nearly loses it as Tony tries to explain why they are together. 55:45 MVP vs. pre cobra Santino Marella and Pulse is fired up 57:25 MVP does Johnny's favourite move 57:56 *Draft Pick number 5:* Torrie Wilson 59:14 Bret Hart fails to find the words, then says 10-20 people (aka 20-40 fists) should fist Vince McMahon. 1:00:18 Mike "The Balls" Mizanin vs Bald Ugly Lunatic Freak Gene Snitsky 1:01:48 Snitsky wins but then he hits 1 clothesline like the bald ugly freak he is and so the ref decides to reverse the decision. 1:02:22 *Draft Pick Number 6:* Chris Masters. Fact no one cares about: in April of 2007, 2 months before this, Bobby Lashley became the first and only man to officially break out of Chris Master's Master Lock; according to Pro Wrestling Fandom. 1:03:54 Roddy Piper Townhall in 2007, unbelievable scenes here tonight ladies & gentlemen. 1:05:08 Mark Cuban licks Vince's nutsack. 1:05:35 K-r-i-s-t-a-l Marshall vs Candace Michelle. 1:06:45 *Draft Pick Number 7:* The man who broke the Master Lock, Bobby Lashley 1:07:00 Jonathan Coachman strips Bobby Lashley of the ECW title and then Bobby cuts a promo & is summarily striped of his dignity 1:08:35 Jeff Hardy vs Elijah Burke vs Batista 1:10:25 *Draft Pick Number 8:* Ric Flair 1:11:18 Captin Lou is talkin' to you 1:12:12 Crazy Graphic for the worst battle royal of all time 1:15:15 Nobody told Dusty about the gimmick tonight apparently and he cuts a strange, unironic promo putting Vince over. 1:17:24 Mean Gene has one of the only unironically funny lines from the whole show because hes great. 1:17:45 *and now its time for the Deadlock +10 moment of the night:* The worst battle royal in history. 1:23:25 *Draft Pick Number 9:* bald ugly crazy lunatic freak Gene Snitsky 1:23:42 and finally, *The Final Draft Pick* in the monumental, historic, 2007 3 hour long, first ever triple brand Draft show: *K E N N E D Y* 1:26:34 Tony runs down the sublimental draft 1:29:24 The best part of the show, Stone Cold's message for Vince reenacted by Johnny 1:34:15 Vince McMahon bumps into Paul London, whose having the best day of his life
2007 was awful, 2008 was better, 2009 was more about the same, 2010 was as bad as 2007 minus a guy ending his own life and his family, then the rest happened.
As I'm listening to the boys describe the Ashley Massaro segment, I'm laying in bed wondering "How did professional wrestling not just outright die in 2007?"
Even after the Chris Benoit Double Murder Suicide, when a big steroid scandal erupted once again and the reason why Mr. Kennedy was ultimately not chosen has Vince’s Illegitimate Son because of his alleged involvement in that scandal. WWE should’ve died there and yet here we are 15 years later.
@@SonBlackHeart22 That segment didn't age well when it happened with Mae and Moolah. The way WWE treats women is always up for valid criticism but I'm happy we moved on from segments like this.
“ALL D1CKS AND ALL TATORS WILL FALL!” “I WAS DROWNING! I DROWNED FOR THIS COUNTRY! SIR!” “SEAL F(_)CKER!” “VINCE, YOU CAN’T GET OUT OF THIS! I WAS SWIMMING IN THE LAKE TITIKAKA! AND THE SHARKS WERE-” “VINCE, WAIT!” “I CAN SAVE HIM! I’LL GO GET HIM!” “VINCE, STAY THERE, I’LL GET THE U.S. UNDERWATER DEMOLITION SEAL TEAM TO GET YOU OUT OF THERE, AND WE’LL SIGN YOU UP RIGHT NOW!”😂
It's the casual disrespect of WWE 2007 that's really crossing the line here: Big Daddy V is born Great Khali wins the Big Gold Belt on a taped Smackdown and holds it upside-down The cruiserweight title DIES No Mercy 2007 ruined my life
As someone who started watching wrestling in late 2005, I'm currently drafting a lawsuit with my lawyer and I seek compensation for my traumatic experience
The Jesse Ventura stuff will never not have me in absolute stitches, for some reason Jawnny in his Jesse Ventura voice saying "500 confirmed kills" has me fucking dying...just like all the people that encountered the US Navy Seal Jesse Ventura. Did you guys know that he was in the US Underwater Demolition Seal Team, because Jesse doesn't like to talk about it?
Y’all should review the episode of Raw where Britney Spears’ ex husband Kevin Federline pinned WWE Champion John Cena in the main event. This was classic episode of Raw, also from the great year of 2007, as a matter of fact it was the first WWE show of 2007.
I made my father buy me the Playing with Fire CD because I told him K Fed was gonna be at John Cena.... He was soooo pissed, I think he stopped watching wrestling then and there
10:04 The first WWE moment I saw was Edge talking on top of a ladder. Everything you said about how if you haven't watched before how Edge would be the coolest wrestler ever is very very true.
The reason Kenny Dykstra was so prominent in those old wrestling games is because he was the guy who did the mocaping Kenny could do all the moves and entrances so they did all the movement capture with him.
this podcast is so dope. been watching Pulse and NewLegacyInc for years so it was awesome to see this podcast come to life a few years ago. i always love the Retro Reviews. keep up the great content bois❤️ ps; jawnny smells:)
lol, you’re allowing these guys to cloud your judgement. WWE was NOWHERE near that bad in this era has they want you to think. The ratings prove that. The ratings actually went up in 2006.
@@sosamanotf642bro just because ratings were up doesn’t mean the shows were good hell smackdown was ass 2 pounds of ass like god how can anyone watch Smackdown from 2004 to 2008 y’all deserve compensation
@@kokotheclown2588 also, the original comment states how did WWE make it out this era. My rebuttal was the ratings. Which were up. That’s how they made it out.
This was my first wrestling show when I was a kid and I remember leaving the arena looking for the firetrucks or smoke outside of the arena and very confused as to why I saw nothing and no concern from anyone else lol
LITERALLY ME. I remember thinking, "Why, is Vince still alive?" The FOLLOWING weeks lmfaoo. It wasnt Undertaker being a zombie man, it wasnt Paul Bearer being "Buried" in concrete in 2004, it was THIS that made me realize WWE wasn't real life
Vince and WWE were very high on Kenny Dykstra. Ziggler said that the Spirit Squad was all for Kenny. Kenny Dykstra was also originally going to team with Edge and Orton as a faction in Rated RKO. It was going to be Rated R for Edge, K for Kenny and O for Orton, but then they nixed that original idea. Then what had happened was Kenny and Mickie James were engaged at the time, and Cena who was married at the time had an affair with Mickie James. So Vince was like, all 3 of them are on Raw, Cena, Mickie and Kenny, so let’s put Kenny on SmackDown to separate and ease the drama, it didn’t fully end the drama though so a few months had passed and Vince decided to release Dykstra in late 07 or early 08. So Vince was very high on Dykstra until he got into issues with Cena, who Vince was obviously going to side with Cena.
If I was a promoter who has held the stinky WEECW title and was going to find out that my paternity test was going to tell me I had a freaking midget son who would later become the Anonymous _RAW_ G.M., yeah, I’d probably end it all too.
It's so weird because I DID grow up with this era and I remember it so fondly, but every time I watch a SGH or listen to a retro review it just hits me at how fucking bad it was. I have no idea how I ever became a wrestling fan.
The only thing to get James more pumped up then Scott Steiner putting his foot on the bottom rope and sayin' "Ya Knoooow...." Is Jesse Ventura dressing down McMahon
What really amazes me the most about the whole storyline is that they were going to commit to it so fully that Vince would basically disappear from public life for close to a year, and then damn near everything that could derail the storyline happened in the space of like two weeks so the only real payoff of it was a few people got to tell Vince just how much of a rotten asshole he is. That's some supreme karma right there.
Sherri Martell dying 'Nah we will keep going through with this' The dirtsheets leaking everything 'LETS KEEP GOING' Benoit kills his wife, son and himself 'Okay we need to stop'
Be me. Think SVR '08 and '09 are two of the best wrestling games ever. Find Deadlock. Turns out everyone hates SVR 08. I remember watching the limo go boom. That's my only memory of this show prior to watching this Deadlock, but I know I either recorded Raw and watched it the next morning before school or watched it live so let's see if this pod wakes up any of those dormant memories for the class-action suit evidence.
I wonder if that Edge/Cena opener match was the one that Edge mentioned in an interview where he had insane food poisoning and the entire match was just him trying not to shit himself
I was like 12 when this episode of Raw aired. I remember watching it but I couldn’t tell you anything about it other than Vince blowing up and I remember I called my dad and was like Vince is dead dad I watched him die. You can’t fake that and then Benoit happened and my head couldn’t compute.
DAMN SON! just found this channel and holy shit, y'all got big Stuntgranny energy Might even make reliving all this nonsense worth it! Can't wait to hear what you think about Revenge Mode Matt Hardy, anyone who name drops Tri.Moon is alright in my book
Khali was on Raw in 2007. He had a couple of matches with Cena for the WWE title on PPV and they were actually pretty serviceable matches and poked holes early on in the Cena can’t wrestle narrative. They had Khali circle both titles for a while.
I remember watching this episode back in 2007. I had only started watching wrestling a few months earlier, so a limo explosion was quite strange and hard for ten year old me to understand. Fucking hell that Jesse Ventura part. The five way at Vengeance between Cena, Orton, Lashley, Foley and Booker is actually pretty decent.
I'm starting to think the attitude era was trash too. If it didn't involve Austin, Rock, Jericho, or Angle; it probably sucked. The Fed has always been trash now that I think about it. WCW should've won
@@spookyspacekuck7885WCW should have won tbh lol I know it was bad in 2000 but man the fed from 2002 to 2008 was legit bad awful I’ll say insulting some gems but god what a awful time to be a wrestling fan
Started watching WWE in 2002-2005 (at 11-14yo); which I consider exclusively the Ruthless Aggression Era. 2006-2009 was honestly the ROUGHISH-Ish to slog through.
Bro I had to come back here because the Finger Poke Of Doom episode got claimed or taken down. This act of aggression will not stand, there will be a reckoning. Upon the name of Rellik (Killer spelled backwards, brother) I call down a great fury upon you dudes.
I'm pretty sure this "era" counts as Ruthless Aggression, anything from after the Invasion up until 'The Bash' of 2008 does, so yes I grew up watching it, do I think 2007 was a particularly great year? I mean, yeah, the first half was, the second not too much, obviously even back then I was able to notice the decrease in quality of shows since late 2006 as someone who was watching wrestling for almost 3 years at that point, but I think it's ludicrous to say this was the worst era, especially if you're still watching WWE or wrestling in general LMAO, anything after the PG era started has been so much worse, in all wrestling companies.
Man the amount of passed people on this show is sad Benoit Ashley Mae Young Moolah Mene Gene Dusty Roddy Piper Balls Mahoney Bobby Heneen Lance Cade Viscera All of them passed
Oh god this is the worst draft episode with the most wtf moments they did in WWE the closest one I can say is as crazy as this was the 2008 one where Tazz said f*ck off when they picked Matt Hardy for ECW JR getting angry when he got drafted to SD cause Vince wanted his legit reaction to it and Vince's Million Dollar Mania going down on a blaze of broken stage with the most awkard acting ever. Also is so weird so in 07 when the ECW champion got drafted to Raw they stripped him of the belt and then in 08 when Kane was ECW champion got drafted to Raw he did not loose the belt my theory as to why they did it with Bobby is that Vince was still spiteful of loosing the belt to him made him forced to drop the belt. Also I recall that Flair did not want to go to SD and did want to quit cause WWE did want him to retire from wrestling. And one las thing to note Booker was a bit annoyed he got drafted to Raw cause of how hostile it was where with a certain H man using his backstage pull and if he was drafted to ECW he would of quit on the spot.
I was at the Vengeance show the weekend of the Benoit murders that happened a few weeks after this. No one knew why he no showed at that time. When they announced that Morrison was gonna replace Benoit in the ECW title match, the dude next to me legit said “must be a family issue.” One of the eeriest things that I’ve ever experienced in hindsight.
Plus the whole Wikipedia debacle about the benior family before it was even announced.
@@aldairreynoso2564 Somebody must have known someone that worked on the case. One thing I learned as a smark is that word travels fast between wrestling smarks.
It was the same weekend as the ppv. This limo thing was friday then he comes out monday to say that benoit and his family were dead
@@jaytrigger8173 Nah, it happened on RAW like they talked about in the video. The next night on ECW, there was an In Memoriam for Vince at the start of the show. Then Vengeance: Night of Champions happened that Sunday
Edit: correction, two weeks later
@IsaacSperrow No, the guy who wrote it just heard rumors on forums.
Jesse Ventura aggressively attempting to recruit Vince as he enters his dynamite loaded limo and still persisting as the limo is blown up is top tier Deadlock. Holy fuck, my abs.
1:42:00 it's time to enlist...Vince, you can't get out of this... I DROWNED! 500 KILLS
That whole bit had me in tears! 😂😂😂😭😭😭
1:42:59 “I CAN SAVE HIM!”😂
There's no fire underwater, Vince.
This review is an all-timer. The whole Ventura/Navy Seals bit is probably imo the funniest bit in the history of the podcast.
Or maybe its not dude, i guess we'll just have to wait and see.
(Foresight Hulk Hogan, XWF review)
@@apassionatenerd.3564 The comments when that XWF review is posted on here are going to be out of pocket...or maybe they're not, dude, we'll have to see about that.
It's up there with Hulk Hogan "pastamania", Scott Steiner "you know promos" and the Horace Hogan match.
That had me crying! 😂😂😂😭😭😭
@@The1FieryBlaze or maybe not, dude
Its funny that Vince thought "You know what would help this company? if I fucking die on television" and it wasnt even the worst moment of THAT MONTH
Kayfabe wise it was the worst moment that month
Imagine if they stuck with that
The crowd booing and saying “you suck” before Vince blows up in his limo is an all timer
Timestamps (Lots & Lots of 'em):
8:30 Edge and Cena have a house show match
12:27 "You will pay for your transgressions."
13:40 Edge hits the Grime Line
13:52 "Edge, not a punch guy." He might not be able to throw a punch but i hear he's pretty good at throwing ladders.
14:31 "Suck this"
19:35 *The big first draft pick of the night.* A substantial, important draft that really sets the tone for the evening: The Great Khali.
20:04 The Great Khali cummer'd right in his pants when he heard he was getting drafted
22:02 Underwater Demolitions Expert, U.S. Navy Seal & Governor, Jesse "The Body" Ventura appears to dress down Vince for not having a beard & instantly becomes a new Deadlock classic alongside Corsica Joe & Horace Hogan.
23:45 Pulse is ready to wring some necks.
25:45 Jonathan Coachman ESPN-Style shows up, No WWE's Goldust or Big Van Vader. My disappointment is immeasurable.
28:55 CM Punk vs. Carlito, Certified NL Classic. I'll never forget the incredible waistlock exchange they had, the workers were really working that night.
29:34 "Gatorade: is it in you?" 🤨
31:22 I don't wanna know what "Hogan Flavour" tastes like, brother.
32:38 Punk hits the Go To Sleep on Tony
32:48 *The second Draft pick* for the night is based as hell, The Boogeyman is going to ECW! Never forget that The Boogeyman beat Booker T, _at Wrestlemania,_ with the greatest move of all time: *The Falling Chokebomb.*
33:32 Johnny perfectly sums up why i love the Boogeyman, hes such a freak lmfao
34:48 Snoop Dogg thanks Vince For monopolizing Wrestling, mega based.
36:18 Mick Foley practices his Late Night stand up comedy routine.
38:42 Balls Mahoney vs Umanga: Umaga immediately hits the worst move in the history of pro wrestling (Don't @ me.), the Samoan Spike and wins.
*The Third Draft Pick:* King Booker
40:42 Steve-O cuts the worst promo in the history of wrestling.
41:24 Bobby Lashley vs..... Chris Benoit... In june of 2007. Yikes.
This was Benoit's second to last match. His final match was 13 days later against Elijah Burke.
44:45 *Draft Pick Number 4:* Chris Benoit
45:15 Donald says words.
46:13 The greatest segment in Raw history begins with the Ashley Satellite Townhall, Ashley is suspended because she spilled coffee on Vince but she's also still on the show anyways because its 2007, WCW is dead, and Vince doesn't care.
47:38 The Dogs come out.
50:10 The Dogs start barking.
51:10 Tony explains the very intricate plot of this David Lynch film.
52:23 "This did nothing for Vince or to him." Oh this definitely did something for Vince, it probably got him off.
Side note: I tried to count, the boys said old at least 19 times during the Mae & Moolah segment lmfao
54:00 Shiek & Super Fly show up and pulse nearly loses it as Tony tries to explain why they are together.
55:45 MVP vs. pre cobra Santino Marella and Pulse is fired up
57:25 MVP does Johnny's favourite move
57:56 *Draft Pick number 5:* Torrie Wilson
59:14 Bret Hart fails to find the words, then says 10-20 people (aka 20-40 fists) should fist Vince McMahon.
1:00:18 Mike "The Balls" Mizanin vs Bald Ugly Lunatic Freak Gene Snitsky
1:01:48 Snitsky wins but then he hits 1 clothesline like the bald ugly freak he is and so the ref decides to reverse the decision.
1:02:22 *Draft Pick Number 6:* Chris Masters. Fact no one cares about: in April of 2007, 2 months before this, Bobby Lashley became the first and only man to officially break out of Chris Master's Master Lock; according to Pro Wrestling Fandom.
1:03:54 Roddy Piper Townhall in 2007, unbelievable scenes here tonight ladies & gentlemen.
1:05:08 Mark Cuban licks Vince's nutsack.
1:05:35 K-r-i-s-t-a-l Marshall vs Candace Michelle.
1:06:45 *Draft Pick Number 7:* The man who broke the Master Lock, Bobby Lashley
1:07:00 Jonathan Coachman strips Bobby Lashley of the ECW title and then Bobby cuts a promo & is summarily striped of his dignity
1:08:35 Jeff Hardy vs Elijah Burke vs Batista
1:10:25 *Draft Pick Number 8:* Ric Flair
1:11:18 Captin Lou is talkin' to you
1:12:12 Crazy Graphic for the worst battle royal of all time
1:15:15 Nobody told Dusty about the gimmick tonight apparently and he cuts a strange, unironic promo putting Vince over.
1:17:24 Mean Gene has one of the only unironically funny lines from the whole show because hes great.
1:17:45 *and now its time for the Deadlock +10 moment of the night:* The worst battle royal in history.
1:23:25 *Draft Pick Number 9:* bald ugly crazy lunatic freak Gene Snitsky
1:23:42 and finally, *The Final Draft Pick* in the monumental, historic, 2007 3 hour long, first ever triple brand Draft show:
*K E N N E D Y*
1:26:34 Tony runs down the sublimental draft
1:29:24 The best part of the show, Stone Cold's message for Vince reenacted by Johnny
1:34:15 Vince McMahon bumps into Paul London, whose having the best day of his life
goat
Thank you.🫡
Genuinely if your "era" is post ONS 2006 up until the Summer of Punk then you absolutely deserve financial compensation
I started in 08 when SD had Jeff Hardy, Edge, and Triple H
To be fair, there was plenty of good stuff. Age of Orton, heel Jericho, taker/Michaels, Jeff's rise to the top, punk/Hardy, edge/taker.
I can imagine a lawyer commercial on TV pitching that suit
I grew up 2012-2016 era
2007 was awful, 2008 was better, 2009 was more about the same, 2010 was as bad as 2007 minus a guy ending his own life and his family, then the rest happened.
As I'm listening to the boys describe the Ashley Massaro segment, I'm laying in bed wondering "How did professional wrestling not just outright die in 2007?"
Even after the Chris Benoit Double Murder Suicide, when a big steroid scandal erupted once again and the reason why Mr. Kennedy was ultimately not chosen has Vince’s Illegitimate Son because of his alleged involvement in that scandal. WWE should’ve died there and yet here we are 15 years later.
That segment aged porrly knowing how awful her time was there 😔
@@SonBlackHeart22 That segment didn't age well when it happened with Mae and Moolah. The way WWE treats women is always up for valid criticism but I'm happy we moved on from segments like this.
Look if you think about it long enough there's no reason professional wrestling should've made it out of the 60s.
@@SonBlackHeart22 Aged poorly implies this wasn't a rancid turd from the first second.
"I've met with Dick Tater."
"I WAS IN THE OCEAN!!! SCUBA JESSE!"
"All you did was see fit to FUCK ME OVER!"
"VINCE, YOU HAVEN'T MET DICK TATER YET!"
“ALL D1CKS AND ALL TATORS WILL FALL!”
“I WAS DROWNING! I DROWNED FOR THIS COUNTRY! SIR!”
“SEAL F(_)CKER!”
“VINCE, YOU CAN’T GET OUT OF THIS! I WAS SWIMMING IN THE LAKE TITIKAKA! AND THE SHARKS WERE-”
“VINCE, WAIT!”
“I CAN SAVE HIM! I’LL GO GET HIM!”
“VINCE, STAY THERE, I’LL GET THE U.S. UNDERWATER DEMOLITION SEAL TEAM TO GET YOU OUT OF THERE, AND WE’LL SIGN YOU UP RIGHT NOW!”😂
41:30 James just saying "so obviously, we're close" is super creepy by itself.
and by that, he means THE WEEK OF IT HAPPENING
"hmmm..... yeeaaahh"
24:16 James saluting is NUTS 😂😂😂😂😂
Then the Jawnny as Jesse Ventura going "500 confirmed kills, who'd you ever kill you fucking bitch?" just made it even better.,
Watching James salute this "Seal Fucker"... Make me want to wring some NECKS!!!
Paul London: 😀
Vince: *get out*
GET OUT OF OUR COMPANY!!!
YOUR FIIIIIIRRRED
Vince: 😡
That was the happiest day of Paul London's life and he wasn't going to let Vince get him down
22:04 *This is a GOD Level Deadlock Segment*
It's the casual disrespect of WWE 2007 that's really crossing the line here:
Big Daddy V is born
Great Khali wins the Big Gold Belt on a taped Smackdown and holds it upside-down
The cruiserweight title DIES
No Mercy 2007 ruined my life
Big Daddy V is goated.
No Mercy 2007 was one of my favorite PPVs of all time, (aside from the Punjabi match) I thought it was an all timer though 🤷
As someone who started watching wrestling in late 2005, I'm currently drafting a lawsuit with my lawyer and I seek compensation for my traumatic experience
The Jesse Ventura stuff will never not have me in absolute stitches, for some reason Jawnny in his Jesse Ventura voice saying "500 confirmed kills" has me fucking dying...just like all the people that encountered the US Navy Seal Jesse Ventura. Did you guys know that he was in the US Underwater Demolition Seal Team, because Jesse doesn't like to talk about it?
Y’all should review the episode of Raw where Britney Spears’ ex husband Kevin Federline pinned WWE Champion John Cena in the main event. This was classic episode of Raw, also from the great year of 2007, as a matter of fact it was the first WWE show of 2007.
Vince should be brought up on war crimes...
I made my father buy me the Playing with Fire CD because I told him K Fed was gonna be at John Cena.... He was soooo pissed, I think he stopped watching wrestling then and there
10:04 The first WWE moment I saw was Edge talking on top of a ladder. Everything you said about how if you haven't watched before how Edge would be the coolest wrestler ever is very very true.
I WAS DROWNING FOR 500 DAYS MCMAHON!
"Here is Jesse Ventura"
"OH MY FUCKING GOD"
You knew it was going to be legendary segment after that
“I DROWNED FOR THIS COUNTRY!”😂
The reason Kenny Dykstra was so prominent in those old wrestling games is because he was the guy who did the mocaping
Kenny could do all the moves and entrances so they did all the movement capture with him.
There was no motion capture back then the animations were hand drawn.
@tycalvert6011 yeah but I think once Dykstra started appearing was when it switched. I could be wrong
@@phantomdriver2010motion capture in wrestling video games started with 2k15 on the PS4.
@tycalvert6011 well I am mistaken. He did do mocap but it was well after he was an onscreen guy
@@phantomdriver2010 Gotcha that makes sense. LA Knight is one of the ones who does it now
this podcast is so dope. been watching Pulse and NewLegacyInc for years so it was awesome to see this podcast come to life a few years ago. i always love the Retro Reviews. keep up the great content bois❤️
ps; jawnny smells:)
always great when the boys post in the morning
I just found this channel this morning.
It's already my favorite
22:05, that's already a Deadie Segment of the Year frontrunner.
Couple underrated things here, James saluting, and “ Scuba Jesse”
YES! YES! He's here! Jesse fucking Ventura and Dick Tator!
R.I.P. Ashley she didn't deserve all the disrespect she got 😞
23:03. The start of EVERYONE'S ribs being shattered from laughter
The Stone Cold promo is timeless. Fit kayfabe and shoot perfectly.
Bruh in 8th grade me and friend talked about the limo bomb and I laughed so much i crying. People were asking me if I was okay lol
51:27 “Why?”
😂😂😂😂
Jawwny’s JR voice is the funniest thing to me next to the stone cold voice
“WHY?! WHY, ASHLEY?! WHY?! TELL ME WHY!”😂
@@eddygm886 😂😂😂😂😂
Could I sue Vince McMahon if I watched Raw in 2009?
For sure.
The judge might consider you mentally unfit for going through that
I haven't watched WWE since I grew up with it in the early 2000s, thank you guys for bringing back amazing memories and making an amazing podcast
The Jesse Ventura Navy Seal stuff killed me😂
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The fact WWE made it out of 2007-2008 is proof they will NEVER die. Shit was horrible!
lol, you’re allowing these guys to cloud your judgement. WWE was NOWHERE near that bad in this era has they want you to think. The ratings prove that. The ratings actually went up in 2006.
2009-12 was far far worse as far as watchability was concerned, I'd say, with a few exceptions.
@@sosamanotf642bro just because ratings were up doesn’t mean the shows were good hell smackdown was ass 2 pounds of ass like god how can anyone watch Smackdown from 2004 to 2008 y’all deserve compensation
@@kokotheclown2588 that era of Smackdown had peak Taker, Edge, Batista, Rey, Eddie and KING BOOKER! That’s arguably the best era of Smackdown.
@@kokotheclown2588 also, the original comment states how did WWE make it out this era.
My rebuttal was the ratings. Which were up. That’s how they made it out.
I love these retro podcasts
24:46 I’ve been laughing nonstop for the past 20 minutes. I had to turn this off and just go outside cause I couldn’t handle it
This was my first wrestling show when I was a kid and I remember leaving the arena looking for the firetrucks or smoke outside of the arena and very confused as to why I saw nothing and no concern from anyone else lol
This episode of Raw has a 7.39 rating on Cagematch and has nine 10/10 ratings.
This upcoming stretch where Jesse Ventura shows up on like 3 shows in 4 weeks is legendary
YESS NEW EPISODE IVE BEEN BINGING THE OLD ONES SO EXCITED FOR A NEW ONE DUDEEEEEEEEE
This was the episode that made me look at WWE as all entertainment 🤦🏽♂️ I cried when I found out it was ALL ENTERTAINMENT 😂😂😂😊
And yet despite being “all entertainment” it wasn’t entertaining at all. Fuck Vince forever.
This had to be the cleverest thing, and the fact that the CEO wanted to play the bad guy was perfect
LITERALLY ME. I remember thinking, "Why, is Vince still alive?" The FOLLOWING weeks lmfaoo. It wasnt Undertaker being a zombie man, it wasnt Paul Bearer being "Buried" in concrete in 2004, it was THIS that made me realize WWE wasn't real life
Vince and WWE were very high on Kenny Dykstra. Ziggler said that the Spirit Squad was all for Kenny. Kenny Dykstra was also originally going to team with Edge and Orton as a faction in Rated RKO. It was going to be Rated R for Edge, K for Kenny and O for Orton, but then they nixed that original idea.
Then what had happened was Kenny and Mickie James were engaged at the time, and Cena who was married at the time had an affair with Mickie James.
So Vince was like, all 3 of them are on Raw, Cena, Mickie and Kenny, so let’s put Kenny on SmackDown to separate and ease the drama, it didn’t fully end the drama though so a few months had passed and Vince decided to release Dykstra in late 07 or early 08.
So Vince was very high on Dykstra until he got into issues with Cena, who Vince was obviously going to side with Cena.
And Kenny works for WWE as a producer or writer backstage for awhile now.
07' Raw might have been the first time I SpongeBob meme'd myself out of WWE
I was 9 years old when I watched this Raw Episode, I still remember it
Wild. I’m 22. This was the first raw i watched live lmaoooo
If I was a promoter who has held the stinky WEECW title and was going to find out that my paternity test was going to tell me I had a freaking midget son who would later become the Anonymous _RAW_ G.M., yeah, I’d probably end it all too.
It's so weird because I DID grow up with this era and I remember it so fondly, but every time I watch a SGH or listen to a retro review it just hits me at how fucking bad it was. I have no idea how I ever became a wrestling fan.
Same.
Because it’s not that bad. Ratings went up in 06.
I think they should have had the draft matches be something like "winner gets a title shot" or something, give these guys some motivation.
The only thing to get James more pumped up then Scott Steiner putting his foot on the bottom rope and sayin' "Ya Knoooow...." Is Jesse Ventura dressing down McMahon
28:56 the eternal Carlito vs Punk match lmao
IVE BEEN WAITING ON THIS ONE
This show was on my 13th birthday. My favorite wrestler died 2 weeks after this episode.
James crying at the Jesse impression at the end 😂😂😂
Glad to see TH-cam uploads :)
McMahon destroyed the limo because it refused to film it urinating for him
What really amazes me the most about the whole storyline is that they were going to commit to it so fully that Vince would basically disappear from public life for close to a year, and then damn near everything that could derail the storyline happened in the space of like two weeks so the only real payoff of it was a few people got to tell Vince just how much of a rotten asshole he is. That's some supreme karma right there.
And the Chris Benoit case was ultra karma?
Sherri Martell dying
'Nah we will keep going through with this'
The dirtsheets leaking everything
'LETS KEEP GOING'
Benoit kills his wife, son and himself
'Okay we need to stop'
I’m captain Lou, and I’m talking to you
What's funny is that Jesse really was functionally a navy seal.
Be me. Think SVR '08 and '09 are two of the best wrestling games ever. Find Deadlock. Turns out everyone hates SVR 08.
I remember watching the limo go boom. That's my only memory of this show prior to watching this Deadlock, but I know I either recorded Raw and watched it the next morning before school or watched it live so let's see if this pod wakes up any of those dormant memories for the class-action suit evidence.
The Boys are Back in Town.
I have more hours on SVR 2008 for PSP than Here Comes The Pain
I'm gonna sure Vince for Psychological Warfare for having me watch 2007 Raw
I wonder if that Edge/Cena opener match was the one that Edge mentioned in an interview where he had insane food poisoning and the entire match was just him trying not to shit himself
This is exactly the era I grew up in being born in 98😂 I remember really thinking Mr McMahon was blown up in the limo
I was like 12 when this episode of Raw aired. I remember watching it but I couldn’t tell you anything about it other than Vince blowing up and I remember I called my dad and was like Vince is dead dad I watched him die. You can’t fake that and then Benoit happened and my head couldn’t compute.
DAMN SON! just found this channel and holy shit, y'all got big Stuntgranny energy
Might even make reliving all this nonsense worth it! Can't wait to hear what you think about Revenge Mode Matt Hardy, anyone who name drops Tri.Moon is alright in my book
52:36 how did yall know 😅
Please do the episode that the titantron crushes Vince during million dollar maina the episode is meh but the moment is amazing 😂😂
They will. They cover everything they've laughed at while watching OSW
"The whole secret of a successful life is to find out what is one's destiny to do, and then do it." -Henry Ford
Literally me I remember watching this live and was just speechless
Khali was on Raw in 2007. He had a couple of matches with Cena for the WWE title on PPV and they were actually pretty serviceable matches and poked holes early on in the Cena can’t wrestle narrative. They had Khali circle both titles for a while.
i can't wait for the deadlock sync for this
You got half bald McMahon,old ladies a smiling creep, James Toney and Jawnny and milktoast???...... YEAH!
1:29:28 stone cold's appreciation to vince
Cena vs Edge should have been main event because those two were on top back then.
Benoit got worked into a shoot
I was in middle school watching this shit where’s my money?! 😂
I remember watching this episode back in 2007. I had only started watching wrestling a few months earlier, so a limo explosion was quite strange and hard for ten year old me to understand. Fucking hell that Jesse Ventura part. The five way at Vengeance between Cena, Orton, Lashley, Foley and Booker is actually pretty decent.
I'm pretty sure I heard Vince's Brother Roderick James McMahon was gonna be the new face for Vince...
How did Mick Foley not represent Socko? 😂😂😂
I have a theory that current day die hard fed fans where kids that grew up in this era and just don't know better
I'm starting to think the attitude era was trash too. If it didn't involve Austin, Rock, Jericho, or Angle; it probably sucked. The Fed has always been trash now that I think about it. WCW should've won
@@spookyspacekuck7885 let em know
I’m a die hard wrestling fan that started watching in this era so when it’s dogshit I can just brush it off because of how bad this era was.
@@spookyspacekuck7885WCW should have won tbh lol I know it was bad in 2000 but man the fed from 2002 to 2008 was legit bad awful I’ll say insulting some gems but god what a awful time to be a wrestling fan
Spirit Squad was made to make Kenny Dykstra a star
he was apparently not allowed to be pinned.
I’m Captain Lou and I’m Talkin To You 😤😤😤
Started watching WWE in 2002-2005 (at 11-14yo); which I consider exclusively the Ruthless Aggression Era. 2006-2009 was honestly the ROUGHISH-Ish to slog through.
Did you watch during 2011-2013? It was considered masochistic to watch RAW back then
@@marcos.a8814 tbh, I think DEADLOCK have clouded a lot of these younger fans judgement.
It would've been so funny if Mr Kennedy was the 2009 version of ryback
"You are an entrepreneur" -Mark Cuban, about a person who took over running a business started by his father
Michael Vick was the player who has the dog fighting opp, not TO 😭😭
My mom hated TO because of the dogs!? Lmaooo I mean Michael Vick? 😂
Been looking for someone to comment on this Lmfaoo
The opening 3 minutes were spent apologizing for how terrible the RAW was lmfao
I see deadlock I click deadlock
Guy like me, I'm clicking Deadlock
4:28 Papa James 😂😂😂
Bro I had to come back here because the Finger Poke Of Doom episode got claimed or taken down. This act of aggression will not stand, there will be a reckoning. Upon the name of Rellik (Killer spelled backwards, brother) I call down a great fury upon you dudes.
This is the wwe i grew up with, also early ruthless aggression too.
I'm pretty sure this "era" counts as Ruthless Aggression, anything from after the Invasion up until 'The Bash' of 2008 does, so yes I grew up watching it, do I think 2007 was a particularly great year? I mean, yeah, the first half was, the second not too much, obviously even back then I was able to notice the decrease in quality of shows since late 2006 as someone who was watching wrestling for almost 3 years at that point, but I think it's ludicrous to say this was the worst era, especially if you're still watching WWE or wrestling in general LMAO, anything after the PG era started has been so much worse, in all wrestling companies.
Man the amount of passed people on this show is sad
Benoit
Ashley
Mae Young
Moolah
Mene Gene
Dusty
Roddy Piper
Balls Mahoney
Bobby Heneen
Lance Cade
Viscera
All of them passed
And one of them got erased for a criminal reason
22:01... For All My NAVY SEAL Brothers out there.... Give this man his 8 "Bowels"
I remember watching this when I was 7 😂😂😂
Oh god this is the worst draft episode with the most wtf moments they did in WWE the closest one I can say is as crazy as this was the 2008 one where Tazz said f*ck off when they picked Matt Hardy for ECW JR getting angry when he got drafted to SD cause Vince wanted his legit reaction to it and Vince's Million Dollar Mania going down on a blaze of broken stage with the most awkard acting ever.
Also is so weird so in 07 when the ECW champion got drafted to Raw they stripped him of the belt and then in 08 when Kane was ECW champion got drafted to Raw he did not loose the belt my theory as to why they did it with Bobby is that Vince was still spiteful of loosing the belt to him made him forced to drop the belt. Also I recall that Flair did not want to go to SD and did want to quit cause WWE did want him to retire from wrestling.
And one las thing to note Booker was a bit annoyed he got drafted to Raw cause of how hostile it was where with a certain H man using his backstage pull and if he was drafted to ECW he would of quit on the spot.
oh my god da 08 draft is always in my head just cuz of Taz sayin fuck on live tv. i always die laughin
1:37:15 That was Michael Vick who ran a dogfighting ring. T.O. was just an asshole.