Watching Tom's videos surely gets your stoke up for what's to come this winter. Besides the very useful and intuitive advice, the editing, music and the overall quality of these clips are at the very top.
Love it Tom, I’m a big fan of unweighting between turns. Such a great feeling and soooo much fun when it’s rough out. Love that you are pointing this out and love that Carv measures this now! Renewing my subscription now!
Thanks for the video. It’s very helpful. I hope we have this kind of video on all the metrics that’s been measured on carv2. The numbers have less meaning without context like this with actionable drills.
Best explanation i have for this is to use old weigh/unweigh ski technique AND the new ski shape carving ability merging weight transfer and ski tech into the best possible carving outcome. As someone who has been skiing 50+ years, this came naturally to me but many new skiers only used the ski turn radius to do the work.
Yes, I think also that the transition is a very important phase, in order to prepare your next turn and unloading, unweighting the skis is the far most important part of an optimal transition. This happens by flexing your knees and this will put your body over your ski-tales. But then your body must cross over your skis and this body movement must happen into an optimal direction and in optimal carving turns you edge your skis simultaneously by ankle movements, so that you get the highest possible edge angles, when the ski-turn starts. This low cross over and ankle edgings are also parts of the transition, because it happens before the new optimal carving turn starts.
Long time snowboarder and this technique is also very important in snowboarding as well. Once I started to ski, this technique became second nature very quickly. Also when you unweight, you are gradually loading the edges to help them to start gripping instead of skidding.
Great vid and confirmation last year was a big improvement in my transition to the next turn. One thing i felt last year was the sensation of whip affect at the end of the turn that seemed to allow me to unweight easily as well to get me into the next turn! Huge centrifugal forces i had not felt previously that has moved me more from intermediate to an advanced feeling. Your thoughts?
Hey Carv team, love the product and all the videos. Quick question/request, will you make it possible to see the a metric on a graph (like at 3:27)? I would love to see these graphs for some metrics like transition weight release or, even better, for edge angle. This would give me a better understanding of which part of the turn I have to work on and focus. Keep up the great work!
The uplift (hop) transition is a page out of the traditional strait ski era. Would you recommend mastering the hop, then moving to the retraction or bypassing the hop and focusing on the retraction.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel the weightlessness derives from bending the ski through the turn and during the transition the ski rebounds (spring unspringing) which trueley does cause one to become weightless for a second.
Great video as usual Tom. So my takeaway is go to more of a hop turn in poor conditions, and use the retraction turn for a pure carved turn or steered turn in good conditions. My question is are you still aiming for a brief moment of 100% release, in the good conditions/retraction scenario?
How does early edge angle fit into trying to get a full transition weight release? Because if you are fully unweighting the skiis, there will be a slight delay in reestablishing edge angle(?).
Weight doesn’t have to be linked to edge angle. Check the section where I am suspended in air by Mark and Alex. Edge angles can be done while weightless
My response would be that foot-to-foot skiing (early weight shift/new angle) happens on hard pack, and this type of skiing described here is more for powder or bump skiing. Allowing the skis to ‘swing’ beneath the pelvis in transition is another way to think of the technique in this video.
In the clip with Mark also take in consideration the difference in the ski you are on. Mark is on twintip, rocker ski, Tom is on a proper piste ski with more edge on the snow, so more grip. I think that gives also more balance.
@@Bigpictureskiing yeah interesting... I have been trying to get onto the new downhill ski earlier in the turn with slight pelvic tilt for downhill leg, in order to get more weight deflection sideways on hill and maintain connection with the downhill leg.. I am not sure how to combine both concepts 🤔...
Tom I believe a more effective approach would involve utilizing the energy from the previous turn. By harnessing the ski’s energy to lift the skis into the air, you can also use that same momentum to direct your movement and effectively apply the energy of your moving mass to bend the skis during the turn. This way, you can use the dynamic forces in a more efficient way to enhance control and technique.
That’s what all good skiers are doing for sure. In making a ten min TH-cam video it’s impossible to mention everything about skiing I feel and believe in. But yes, even the hop turns I’m utilizing energy from the previous turn to help unweight the next turn. Also why when you go faster and can carve cleaner, there is higher energy you can use to make a different type of transition. One that still has some unweighting, but is managed differently through the legs. My main point I wanted to get across in this video is how being unweighted, REGARDLESS OF TECHNIQUE USED, is how it allows more freedom at the top of the turn. This is that part where I’m suspended on the two guys. I want people to just have fun and enjoy the variety of techniques in skiing. Not get too stuck in “this is the only way to do something”.
How important is the ski shape in accomplishing these high angle edge turns. Another way of asking the same question is, what is the ideal width under foot should my ski be? 80 or narrower under foot? Thanks
As with everything it depends on the conditions and the skier - Ted is equally happy unweighting on a 90 under foot - but most skiers may find carving turns easier on a narrower ski
When you advance in skiing your knees can hit your chest, without you getting tired. You just become a suspension that floats above any terrain in any visibility or snow conditions, the toughest one of which, being thick ice crust above powder. Only excellent training can save you there!
Excellent. Cheers Tom. Does CARV care how far apart a skiers feet are, as it seems a lot easier to be quick, light and create angles with the feet closer together?
For years, I've been trying to lose my "up" from my 70's era of skiing - trying to stay weighted to have more of a top of a turn. How does one keep a clean top of the turn while unweighting to change edges?
Drill # 1 looks completely opposite to what my son's racing coach taught him: popping up move must be avoided. Even in the drill # 2 Tom looks having some pop-up component. Is it possible to ask Ted Ligety to demo this for comparison?
Drill 1 is not for people who are racing. It’s for the intermediates. My assumption is most people race training with a coach are beyond this point already. However it’s interesting to observe that a lot of kids that do a lot of race coaching on groomers really struggle skiing off piste. They take the same approach as what works on the groomers. Horses for courses as they say. Know how to perform all techniques and ways to ski and you’ll be the most versatile skier on the mtn
I wanted to order Carv 2 and I saw the price and I was like: okay its a really good tool so its worth 250, but a yearly subscription part caught me off, like wtf, why? Can’t you just put up a price for a product and leave it like that, why would I have to repay 250 every year for a tool?
Subscription allows us to continually update the app and give all our users the best possible product - without making people buy new hardware each year.
Exactly what’s stopping me from buying carv. $329 yearly to use a product I’ve already paid for is daylight robbery. Why can’t I just use the product as is and if I want to upgrade to the latest features and pay for that, I should be able to do so. If your product requires these updates in order to keep functioning, you should probably work on releasing a more stable product. Making people pay a subscription is pure greed and only benefits the c-suite at carv. If you cared about your customers you wouldn’t use this business model.
i’ve been skiing since 1964…i’m 74 yo….and i still ski with fear at the front of my brain…will i ever overcome it, or am i doomed to be afraid until the day comes when i can’t ski anymore
Never mind. I tune and repair skis for instructors and patrollers but im not eligible. Huge bummer. Had a founder come into my shop today actually and we tuned his too. Told me all about how great it is.
@ when will you have pro deals for all the industry professionals? For someone who tunes and makes sure instructors and patrollers skis are safe and up to date it’s a bit insulting I can’t get one, and I’m not trying to start a pity party. The product seems fantastic but I don’t make enough to afford it.
I was playing around with the weightless turn in powder last weekend, based on this CARV video: th-cam.com/video/02XL-lBf6eg/w-d-xo.html. It was really helpful, will try this in some other conditions.
I equate it to the cost of lessons. It's a tiny fraction of that. My skiing has improved dramatically as a result of being a carv user, it's always watching, factual and it's never grumpy or lazy... I'm afraid I can't say the same on any of those things for the various ski instructors I've had over the years. It also stops me being lazy and has made skiing even more fun as it doesn't matter whether I'm with somebody better or worse than me, I've can make the most of the time I am spending on any slope or speed. I'd suggest you try it, if it's not for you there is a super generous refund period so there is nothing to lose. I love companies that back the claims of their product in this way.
Love how out of breath he is after 12 albiet perfect turns - great but try maintaining that form for 8 hours straight everyday for at least 6 days - it is a great drill thought !
It’s pretty tough skiing at 3000m when you live at sea level. And this was day 5 skiing first to almost last lift, with jet lag coming from Sydney timezone to European timezone. These things Might have had something to do with it lol
Inertial frame of reference is not Einsteins "happiest Idea" because it is fun to freefall... he copied Newtons Math... that's why Special Relativity is special.
Watching Tom's videos surely gets your stoke up for what's to come this winter. Besides the very useful and intuitive advice, the editing, music and the overall quality of these clips are at the very top.
Thank you!
Tom Gellie features are my favorite Carv videos 🤝🏼
We love Tom!
@@CarvSkiI love working with the Carv team ⛷️
I am an Eastern skier and I’m in my 63rd ski season. I learn something from every Tom Gellie video and his way of teaching makes me a better skier.
Thank you for the video guys!
Would be great to see a tutorial on Early Forward Movement
We’re working on one!
Love it Tom, I’m a big fan of unweighting between turns. Such a great feeling and soooo much fun when it’s rough out. Love that you are pointing this out and love that Carv measures this now! Renewing my subscription now!
Thanks for the support! Have a great season!
Right on!
Thanks for the video. It’s very helpful. I hope we have this kind of video on all the metrics that’s been measured on carv2. The numbers have less meaning without context like this with actionable drills.
Tom is the best! Thank you for posting this.
Our pleasure!
Best explanation i have for this is to use old weigh/unweigh ski technique AND the new ski shape carving ability merging weight transfer and ski tech into the best possible carving outcome. As someone who has been skiing 50+ years, this came naturally to me but many new skiers only used the ski turn radius to do the work.
I love the flight mode of skiing 👍
Yes, I think also that the transition is a very important phase, in order to prepare your next turn and unloading, unweighting the skis is the far most important part of an optimal transition. This happens by flexing your knees and this will put your body over your ski-tales. But then your body must cross over your skis and this body movement must happen into an optimal direction and in optimal carving turns you edge your skis simultaneously by ankle movements, so that you get the highest possible edge angles, when the ski-turn starts. This low cross over and ankle edgings are also parts of the transition, because it happens before the new optimal carving turn starts.
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So fun and informative. Merry Christmas 🎉
Thank you! You too!
Long time snowboarder and this technique is also very important in snowboarding as well. Once I started to ski, this technique became second nature very quickly. Also when you unweight, you are gradually loading the edges to help them to start gripping instead of skidding.
Cringe.
Thanks Tom! I’m going to be working on that!
Go for it!
This is my favorite part of skiing. This is the best drill I've seen to teach it. Extra points for not actually hopping, but still 100%. ❤
It’s so fun!
My fav part is no white people😂😂😂😂
Tom, I have learned so....much from your videos for the past 2 seasons than 6 in-person lessons combined!
Wow thanks 🙏 and great job 👏
Great vid and confirmation last year was a big improvement in my transition to the next turn. One thing i felt last year was the sensation of whip affect at the end of the turn that seemed to allow me to unweight easily as well to get me into the next turn! Huge centrifugal forces i had not felt previously that has moved me more from intermediate to an advanced feeling. Your thoughts?
Sounds exactly like the correct feelings!
Hey Carv team, love the product and all the videos. Quick question/request, will you make it possible to see the a metric on a graph (like at 3:27)? I would love to see these graphs for some metrics like transition weight release or, even better, for edge angle. This would give me a better understanding of which part of the turn I have to work on and focus.
Keep up the great work!
We are working on bringing these into the app
Tom is the goat
Where can I get these two smiling n supporting friends? 1:40
You had me cracking up!
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The uplift (hop) transition is a page out of the traditional strait ski era. Would you recommend mastering the hop, then moving to the retraction or bypassing the hop and focusing on the retraction.
I understand the Carv audio active coach comments better, now that I see the video. Thanks for the clear visuals in your video!
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Glad it was helpful!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel the weightlessness derives from bending the ski through the turn and during the transition the ski rebounds (spring unspringing) which trueley does cause one to become weightless for a second.
Exactly right
"Kinda still making it fun." - Awesome.
Great video as usual Tom.
So my takeaway is go to more of a hop turn in poor conditions, and use the retraction turn for a pure carved turn or steered turn in good conditions.
My question is are you still aiming for a brief moment of 100% release, in the good conditions/retraction scenario?
We’d say check out videos of tops skier like Ted for the answer to your question - they have 100% release almost every turn
How does early edge angle fit into trying to get a full transition weight release? Because if you are fully unweighting the skiis, there will be a slight delay in reestablishing edge angle(?).
Weight doesn’t have to be linked to edge angle. Check the section where I am suspended in air by Mark and Alex. Edge angles can be done while weightless
My response would be that foot-to-foot skiing (early weight shift/new angle) happens on hard pack, and this type of skiing described here is more for powder or bump skiing. Allowing the skis to ‘swing’ beneath the pelvis in transition is another way to think of the technique in this video.
You can have weightlessness and early edge angles!
In the clip with Mark also take in consideration the difference in the ski you are on. Mark is on twintip, rocker ski, Tom is on a proper piste ski with more edge on the snow, so more grip. I think that gives also more balance.
@@Bigpictureskiing yeah interesting... I have been trying to get onto the new downhill ski earlier in the turn with slight pelvic tilt for downhill leg, in order to get more weight deflection sideways on hill and maintain connection with the downhill leg.. I am not sure how to combine both concepts 🤔...
Tom I believe a more effective approach would involve utilizing the energy from the previous turn. By harnessing the ski’s energy to lift the skis into the air, you can also use that same momentum to direct your movement and effectively apply the energy of your moving mass to bend the skis during the turn. This way, you can use the dynamic forces in a more efficient way to enhance control and technique.
That’s what all good skiers are doing for sure. In making a ten min TH-cam video it’s impossible to mention everything about skiing I feel and believe in.
But yes, even the hop turns I’m utilizing energy from the previous turn to help unweight the next turn. Also why when you go faster and can carve cleaner, there is higher energy you can use to make a different type of transition. One that still has some unweighting, but is managed differently through the legs. My main point I wanted to get across in this video is how being unweighted, REGARDLESS OF TECHNIQUE USED, is how it allows more freedom at the top of the turn. This is that part where I’m suspended on the two guys. I want people to just have fun and enjoy the variety of techniques in skiing. Not get too stuck in “this is the only way to do something”.
How important is the ski shape in accomplishing these high angle edge turns. Another way of asking the same question is, what is the ideal width under foot should my ski be? 80 or narrower under foot? Thanks
As with everything it depends on the conditions and the skier - Ted is equally happy unweighting on a 90 under foot - but most skiers may find carving turns easier on a narrower ski
Great video! Where was this video shot
Hintertux Glacier
When you advance in skiing your knees can hit your chest, without you getting tired. You just become a suspension that floats above any terrain in any visibility or snow conditions, the toughest one of which, being thick ice crust above powder. Only excellent training can save you there!
Very true
Excellent. Cheers Tom.
Does CARV care how far apart a skiers feet are, as it seems a lot easier to be quick, light and create angles with the feet closer together?
No - Carv doesn’t measure the distance between your feet
For years, I've been trying to lose my "up" from my 70's era of skiing - trying to stay weighted to have more of a top of a turn. How does one keep a clean top of the turn while unweighting to change edges?
Think about unweighting as a chance to get on the new edges early!
Drill # 1 looks completely opposite to what my son's racing coach taught him: popping up move must be avoided. Even in the drill # 2 Tom looks having some pop-up component. Is it possible to ask Ted Ligety to demo this for comparison?
Check out our other videos to see more of Ted skiing
Drill 1 is not for people who are racing. It’s for the intermediates. My assumption is most people race training with a coach are beyond this point already. However it’s interesting to observe that a lot of kids that do a lot of race coaching on groomers really struggle skiing off piste. They take the same approach as what works on the groomers. Horses for courses as they say. Know how to perform all techniques and ways to ski and you’ll be the most versatile skier on the mtn
I wanted to order Carv 2 and I saw the price and I was like: okay its a really good tool so its worth 250, but a yearly subscription part caught me off, like wtf, why? Can’t you just put up a price for a product and leave it like that, why would I have to repay 250 every year for a tool?
Subscription allows us to continually update the app and give all our users the best possible product - without making people buy new hardware each year.
@ then lower the subscription fee
@@gaafsy8546Would you consider a ski couch for $250 a year expensive?
Exactly what’s stopping me from buying carv. $329 yearly to use a product I’ve already paid for is daylight robbery. Why can’t I just use the product as is and if I want to upgrade to the latest features and pay for that, I should be able to do so. If your product requires these updates in order to keep functioning, you should probably work on releasing a more stable product. Making people pay a subscription is pure greed and only benefits the c-suite at carv. If you cared about your customers you wouldn’t use this business model.
@ exactly, couldn’t say better
i’ve been skiing since 1964…i’m 74 yo….and i still ski with fear at the front of my brain…will i ever overcome it, or am i doomed to be afraid until the day comes when i can’t ski anymore
We hope you can Barry
I would love to buy carv to improve but working at a resort and living in a ski town doesn’t afford me the luxury.
We have a pro deal for people working in the ski industry
@ no way. Did not know that! Heck yeah
Never mind. I tune and repair skis for instructors and patrollers but im not eligible. Huge bummer. Had a founder come into my shop today actually and we tuned his too. Told me all about how great it is.
@ when will you have pro deals for all the industry professionals? For someone who tunes and makes sure instructors and patrollers skis are safe and up to date it’s a bit insulting I can’t get one, and I’m not trying to start a pity party. The product seems fantastic but I don’t make enough to afford it.
Be weightless in transition, meaning jumping from one turn to another, basically.
That’s one day to do it
I was playing around with the weightless turn in powder last weekend, based on this CARV video: th-cam.com/video/02XL-lBf6eg/w-d-xo.html. It was really helpful, will try this in some other conditions.
Glad we could help
Nice tool for sure unfortunately subscription renewal @$250 each season seems a bit pricey. For recreational purposes too expensive for racers ok
Subscription allows us to continually update the product and provide our users with the latest version without having to sell totally new hardware
I equate it to the cost of lessons. It's a tiny fraction of that. My skiing has improved dramatically as a result of being a carv user, it's always watching, factual and it's never grumpy or lazy... I'm afraid I can't say the same on any of those things for the various ski instructors I've had over the years. It also stops me being lazy and has made skiing even more fun as it doesn't matter whether I'm with somebody better or worse than me, I've can make the most of the time I am spending on any slope or speed. I'd suggest you try it, if it's not for you there is a super generous refund period so there is nothing to lose. I love companies that back the claims of their product in this way.
Love how out of breath he is after 12 albiet perfect turns - great but try maintaining that form for 8 hours straight everyday for at least 6 days - it is a great drill thought !
It’s pretty tough skiing at 3000m when you live at sea level. And this was day 5 skiing first to almost last lift, with jet lag coming from Sydney timezone to European timezone. These things Might have had something to do with it lol
Carv 2 sucks in detecting terrain, everything is "groomed". Metrics are a random number generator and the engineers are as arrogant as it gets.
Inertial frame of reference is not Einsteins "happiest Idea" because it is fun to freefall... he copied Newtons Math... that's why Special Relativity is special.
Far too much stupid music on this video.
Sorry but world class? Athletes from world cups would be more interesting! I didn’t even know his name…