I much prefer anti-villains over the character who is just bad to be bad. Villains who can be sympathized with are much more interesting and make the story feel more believable.
I feel the same way with anti-heroes. The classic hero is just so bland and one-dimensional to me. Whereas the anti-hero (and the anti-villain as well) are much more multi-dimensional in their personalities as well as having more complex motives in their end goals. Therefore both the anti-hero and the anti-villain are either relatable or understandable depending on one’s point of view. For example, Erik Killmonger in the Black Panther movie wants to tear down the current world order because he believes his people (Africans) are oppressed by white people. And although he is basically encouraging some form of genocide by misusing Wakandan technology to achieve his goals, you kinda feel for the guy because he kinda has a point in doing what he’s doing.
@@john3260 Garou's tragedy is that he actually wanted to be a hero when he was younger, but because his fellow students would always bully him and force him to play the role of villain during their games he began to sympathize with villains since like him they would always lose no matter how much effort they put in. Seems minor but sometimes it takes acts of oppression on a young impressionable mind to sow the seeds of anarchy later on. He wanted to break a system he felt was rigged against him.
You nailed it! Finally someone who noticed. Nevertheless, I prefer Heath because Joker in the comics was an evil irredeemable character. He is evil personified, so I don't think he should even be iterated as an Anti-Villain.
No, that wasn't great, but she was so badly humiliated right before her rampage that you can feel at least a little sympathy for her. I disliked the mean girl who staged the humiliation more.
Magneto from the X-men is a classic anti-villain example. The whole series is an allegory to the US Civil Rights Movement between two styles of leadership being Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr.
Anti-villains tend to be much more interesting than your typical villains because they usually have interesting backstories that led them to their path, good-intentioned goals that most people would like to see (though their methods less so), or maybe they are genuinely good people in a bad spot. I wouldn't consider Thanos an anti-villain since he did not think through his plan very well. Rather than bringing stability, he brought utter chaos and confusion to the universe. A good anti-villain is a likable character with a good nature but has their morality or worldview warped by some tragic event or perhaps another much worse villain.
"I wouldn't consider Thanos an anti-villain since he did not think through his plan very well. Rather than bringing stability, he brought utter chaos and confusion to the universe." that misses the point entirely, that would be like saying a hero isn't a hero just because they have a bad sense of direction and went to the wrong abandoned warehouse to save hostages, they are still classed as hero, just inept
Anakin Skywalker would be a good example of number 4. He was a good man that circumstance drove him to villainy. This is especially apparent if you've watched Star Wars the Clone Wars animated series where we see that war and the lost it entails leads to him being tempted by Palpatine.
Another good example for the "woobie villain" I think would be Megamind. His constantly being treated as a bad kid because of his blue skin and failed experiments made him turn to the evil side. And in the course of getting to know Roxanne Richie, those wounds heal and he turns good again. And for the "Villain in name only" I think Rattlesnake Jake from "Rango" is a good example. He's propped up as the BBEG from the moment Rango enters the town of Dirt and shows up and chases Rango out of town and threatens to "Drag [his] soul straight down to Hell!" if he comes back. But in reality he's just a mercenary and when the Mayor turned on him Rattlesnake Jake changed sides and teamed up with Rango to kill the Mayor.
Probably my favorite villain of all time is The Operative from Serenity. He's really interesting as a villain because in some ways he's more honourable than the protagonist, Mal, who is himself an anti-hero. The Operative is fully aware that what he does is evil, but he truly believes it's for the sake of achieving a better world.
My favorite antivillain is Mr Freeze. He feels like the pinnacle of both a tragic figure and an antivillain. You understand him. You sympathize with him. Hell you can't help but wonder if you'd do the exact same thing in his shoes, but his actions aren't morally grey. He's a villain. You know, I know it, hell HE knows it. You can fault him, but you still understand why. The villain of the story I'm currently working on could be considered an antivillain I guess? I'm not sure. He's not actually doing anything evil in the story itself, but the horrible place the world is in at the time is a direct result of his past actions.
Ooh, I've always been interested in antivillains! Ooh, I've always been interested in antivillains! I think I have an example of a well-intentioned extremist antivillain, even if he made for a rather weak one (SPOILERS!) Chairman Rose from Pokemon Sword and Shield
I'm almost finished writing what I think is a gothic novel. My main character is an anti-hero (she's a bully, but not evil) and her girlfriend develops into an anti-villain under her influence. Thinking that "bully" equals "evil", she knowingly does increasingly horrible things because she believes this will make the main character (who at times fails to be supportive and kind to her) love her more.
Although I haven’t written a story for this kind of character, I did create one with a backstory. While I won’t go into the backstory of my anti-villain, I will explain why I consider him an anti-villain. Suarez Mora (a.k.a. Diablo Daga = Devil’s Dagger) actually runs a gang he formed on his own. In a post-apocalyptic environment outside his home city-state Calivada, he’s a powerful man. Unlike the Road Ranger (my anti-hero) who kills murderers (serial killers, mass murderers, religious extremists, and racist hate groups to name a few) without any second thoughts, El Diablo believes that his enemies can be spared if they willingly submit to his rule. Which in a way is kind of like forgiving his enemies for their trespasses but with a catch. As a means of establishing and maintain order, Suarez is trying to reestablish a centuries-long dead empire which is the Spanish Empire. Driven by his Spanish bloodline and heritage, he claims that he is the descendant of Hernan Cortes. And while he is trying to establish order in a largely lawless region, he does run a mafia-like gang. So really while he is technically doing something good, he has a sinister motive behind it all. And as you can guess, yes he’s basically the arch-adversary to my anti-hero.
Try the story “Worm” from the parahumans series by wildbow. The creator actually changed their mind on why the main character would be cause the villain he made fit into the role better. It’s all about a girl making the wrong choices for the right reasons. Sadly a major theme of the story is “it gets worse” so it’s not for the faint of heart. People who participate in the fandom even go as far as to call it grimderp
I am writing an anti-villain that's similar to Darth Vader. While his goals is to destroy a greater evil, he is a monster no better in terms of genocide. Edit (and rather spoilers): He's ALL types of anti-villains. Starting with The Villain in Name, to The Woobie Villain, to The Noble Anti-Villain, to The Well-Intentioned Extremist. Again, his ultimate goal is to destroy a greater evil that the heroes would be willing to destroy, but is ultimately the villain because of his genocidal means of achieving such goals.
An anti hero is a cruel and bloody hero,or a neutral person which in the deep is good. Examples: Deadpool Venom(movie) Wolverine Batman(Nolan trilogy) Maybe also Feri Ats An anti villain is a villain that is not cruel bot honest and/or with an achievement that they want to achieve and that's makes sense in some ways but is wrong. Also corrupted heroes or conflicted villains. Examples: Thanos Grand Admiral Thrawn Darth Maul And obviously Darth Vader And also Joker(2019) Count Dooku Kylo Ren
my favourite anti villain is probably funny valentine from steel ball run. he does bad stuff so we still root for Johnny but at the same time and spoilers ahead funny valentine wanted the corpse parts for the future of America whereas Johnny just wanted them for himself
I would recommend watching "The Convincing Villainy of Funny Valentine" by Oceaniz. Valentine isn't really a sympathetic character with noble, or even reasonable, goals. He's just a really good politician.
This video helped me alot to develop my antivillian- Caeli Kafla ! His determination to eliminate the fundamental factions in the world to create peace . In order to stop war, he believes he has to eliminate everyone who holds a grudge. One of my favorite characters I've written
Hi there! Thanks for the awesome video. I've been looking everywhere for information on anti-heroes and anti villains for sometime now, and haven't been able to find anything online. Did you take this information from a text? If so could you possibly tell me which one or direct me towards something that might be helpful? You're a legend!
Johnnie from the first Karate kid. But Kobra Kai i think goes in between Anti hero and Anti villain. Magneto and Killmonger might be seen as Anti Villains as well.
My favorite anti-villains are the following. Kumoko, from "I'm a spider, so what?", gets isekai'd as a monstrous spider. The world is doomed and her goals are only to save her "friends" so to most of humanity she is a villain. Reinhardt, from "Demon prince goes to the Academy", dies and has to sign a contract where he gets isekai'd to one of the novel he wrote. He becomes the demon prince which is the absolute antagonist of humanity and has to go into hiding as a student in the biggest human city. He only knows the world is doomed and has to build a power base while being the "villain in name only".
Is Gollum from Lord of the Rings an anti-villain? When he was Sméagol he was just a happy hobbit, but the magic of the Ring tainted him and magnified any bad qualities he had, enough so that he would kill for greed and desire. So really it was the ring that made him evil by being exposed to it.
I've attempted to write one. His name is Falcon. He's a villain, but he doesn't want to be too bad because he knows there are still good people in the world who mean no harm. Those are not to be targeted, and instead the badness in this world. Falcon sounds like a hero, but he is not, because heroes don't do the things he does, and when he is a hero, it's too subtle to count. Falcon refuses to be called a hero or a villain. He's just... Falcon. And often when a villain kidnaps someone, they torture them or treat them badly. When he HAS to kidnap someone, he treats them with a lot of respect, and honestly it wouldn't surprise me if the victim wanted to stay with Falcon, because he's actually a really nice guy if you treat him with the right amount of respect. But if the victim has wronged him in any way, then he won't be as nice to them... Also, he uses quite advanced vocabulary, and this is sometimes one of the reasons people like him because that combined with the tone of voice he uses sounds oddly comforting. When he's mad, it feels like you're a small child being yelled at by an adult. Both scary and makes you feel like a horrible person. Idk what else to say
Wondering if Bridge On The River Kwai features two antivillains: Sessue Hayakawa is a 2, and Alec Guinness is a 4. And William Holden is a bit of an antihero, now that I think about it. 🤔
I made an anti-villain, his name is omega, he is a glitch that leads the glitches, he resembles a blue glitch but with an eye in a mouth like a red glitch. Why is he an anti-villain? Well, Omega is Voxel’s father. But Omega is not the main antagonist, the main antagonist is Illuminati Prime, the embodiment of all negative power itself.
Your definition of a Woobie Villain fits an important NPC for a ttrpg campaign i run. They where raised by a single father, where abducted as an early teen given extremely painful cybernetics that gave them superhuman strength and durability(but only for the cybernetics) father passed away while they where kidnapped, was outcastes and joined a fighting ring, found actual friends and became a hero, started dating one of their friends, but their girlfriend dies friends get split up at work, gets stuck with some dude they don't care for at first just to eventually get close and then he gets severely injured so the character teams up with an old friend to get revenge but the old friend dies before they are able to get revenge which ends up sending them of the deep end.
I am trying to write a character that would under any light a villain but he more than that. he does some heroic things or honorable things under his own moral code. It is hard to write him.
Another good anti-villain is Sheriff "Little" Bill Dagget in the movie "Unforgiven". He is a violent, sadistic man, but he has some insight into the nature of his job. When he talks about other gunfighters, he says, "They don't have any character, not even bad character." He beats the daylights out of English Bob and Clint Eastwood, with the help of his armed deputies. He does this to anyone else who comes into his town wearing a gun. He beats Clint Eastwoods partner, Ned, to death. But he believes he is on the side of right. He believes he is vastly better than the men he brutalizes. Near the end of the movie, when he is laying wounded on the floor, waiting for Clint Eastwood to kill him, he says, "I don't deserve this." It is interesting that "Little" Bill has no wife. One never shows up in the movie. It could be that the man is so sadistic that he doesn't have emotions left over after his job. His nickname "Little" Bill could be a reference to the size of his penis. There is nothing else about him that is little. What else could it be?
I kinda have an anti-villain concept, a villain who basically their only weakness is their morality. They are a villain in the sense that when up against the protagonists they don't hold back (and yes that includes not being afraid of murder, they are a villain after all), but they will actively sabotage things if it means protecting innocents. In the end this being the only thing the heroes can use to defeat them they basically make it look like some innocents are in danger luring them into a trap. The villain is defeated and sent to jail or something like, but before they do they have a little moment being like "you know, lying about lives being in danger isn't the most heroic thing. I've always made an effort to keep a clean record, and yet you heroes are allowed to do something like this and still be treated as heroes? Tell me, hero, does the ends always justify the means? Because if you truly believe it does, I think you'll find you're not as heroic as you think you are"
@@amshudharasbhat883 Naruto has such large diversity of character ranging from Pure Hero : Naruto Pure Villain : Orochimaru Anit-Hero : Sasuke Anti-Villain : pretty much every on lol Even Severus Snape type Character : Itachi
The entire idea of giving villains redeeming qualities does make a certain amount of sense for certain types of stories. But I've never found a way to make it work when the point of view is first-person. Their viewpoint, of a villain who presents of mortal threat to them, is not going to dwell on any redeeming qualities that villain might have, and their redeeming qualities just are not in any way important to a viewpoint character with that point of view. Since the first-person story is filtered completely through the view from that character, it seems pretty unrealistic that they might mention redeeming qualities of a villain who wants to kill them. The only thing I could find that worked was to give the villain a pet Chihuahua that he doted on, which showed that he had a love of animals. This contrasted with the fact that he had a mortal hatred for the protagonist. It worked for James Bond. His villains never seemed to have any redeeming qualities, other than Blofeld, who was constantly petting his white Persian.
For those looking for a story that stands above the laws of generic genres, Look out for the chronicles of “The Ten Terrors”. A story where the themes of Heroes and Villains are never that simple…
The thing about anti villains is that they can be easily turned into anti heroes by perspective For example, in stranger things, the character who wants to kill Eddie can easily be argued to both anti hero(he doesn’t know Eddie didn’t sacrifice the person) but is seen first as an anti villain since we know the truth.
To be honest I sort of take the view that all antagonists should be anti-villains. Everyone in real life to some degree or another considers themselves the "good guy" in their biography, so it should be that way in most fictional narratives as well.
Do pragmatic villains fall under the anti-villain umbrella? Thinking because of the fact that they only do evil when they think it’s absolutely necessary.
@@Sorain1 Damn true... I didn't think him an extremist because I always relate that to political ideologies. Didn't even think it applies to selfish goals.
@@singularity1130 It stuck out to me, mostly because it makes the entire story a tragedy. If Nox had just tried his idea on smaller scale, tested how far a given amount of fuel could take him? He would have realized it was impossible. But he was acting on emotion, driven in a way we can relate to (if never fully understand) and that makes Nox a brilliant antagonist. Because we have all made similar mistakes, of cutting after measuring only once, instead of twice. Of going after something because we need it so badly without wanting to consider if it's impossible because we (emotionally) can't accept that it could be. Extremist is used for politics and misused there often, but in the end it is only a matter of degree. Even a selfless goal, when taken too far is a form of extremism. It's funny how we tend to latch onto one definition of a word, when they all seem to have more than one, isn't it?
I am writing one. His religion makes him believe he's in the right even though the creatures that are created have to have human flesh otherwise they cannot be controlled.
How would you classify a female bounty hunter who doesn't shy away from killing others whether for the job or personal gain, and whose goal is being in search for a presumably dead sister to which she refuses to believe? She has some noble aspects, such as refuses to hurt children of young age, however shooting their parents if it is part of the job is something she won't hesitate with.
Injustice Superman. He would be considered to be an anti villain. The legend of Korra have anti villains as well. Characters with noble goals but take their ideology too far. Anime like Naruto when he fights against Pain and Obito are anti villains.
How to deal with making a villain that not only have a moral reason to do the villanous act, but are also gloomy? how do you make someone so sad about what they're doing feel like a threat and not as someone who had already defeaded themself?
If the non-anti-villain is a mustache twirling baddie, and the other villains are the anti-villains, then there can be no well written villains (cause they're evil for the sake of it), only well written anti-villains (cause they have depth - as described here) Forgive me (sorry if the above sentence was confusing) but I'm going to disagree. You cannot call a flat baddie a 'villain', and call deep villains 'anti-villains'. That makes no sense. There are only deep villains, and very few exceptions where an evil-to-be-evil villain is well written and apt for the story. All the other villains are just badly written characters
I much prefer anti-villains over the character who is just bad to be bad. Villains who can be sympathized with are much more interesting and make the story feel more believable.
I feel the same way with anti-heroes. The classic hero is just so bland and one-dimensional to me. Whereas the anti-hero (and the anti-villain as well) are much more multi-dimensional in their personalities as well as having more complex motives in their end goals. Therefore both the anti-hero and the anti-villain are either relatable or understandable depending on one’s point of view.
For example, Erik Killmonger in the Black Panther movie wants to tear down the current world order because he believes his people (Africans) are oppressed by white people. And although he is basically encouraging some form of genocide by misusing Wakandan technology to achieve his goals, you kinda feel for the guy because he kinda has a point in doing what he’s doing.
i much prefer characters who are bad because they want to be bad and that all
How to create an Antivillain:
First, start by creating a great sad tragedy, which corrupts it's protagonist
I don't think so, Garou from One-Punch Man is an anti-villain who didn't have a super sad tragedy.
Neither Javé or Thanos from MCU have a great sad tragedy.
An anti-villain is characterized by his goals and principles.
What about 2 face from the dark knight?
Tbf Javier reveals that he was born and grew up in a prison
@@john3260 Garou's tragedy is that he actually wanted to be a hero when he was younger, but because his fellow students would always bully him and force him to play the role of villain during their games he began to sympathize with villains since like him they would always lose no matter how much effort they put in. Seems minor but sometimes it takes acts of oppression on a young impressionable mind to sow the seeds of anarchy later on. He wanted to break a system he felt was rigged against him.
Dr Doofenshmirtz.
One of my favorite characters ever.
yes. period.
Yes... Lol love that character
Good father too
Just Doofenshmirtz, nuff said.
Different iterations of the joker are ideal examples of types of villain:
Anti Villain: Joquin Phoenix Joker
Pure Evil Villain: Heath Ledger Joker
You nailed it! Finally someone who noticed. Nevertheless, I prefer Heath because Joker in the comics was an evil irredeemable character. He is evil personified, so I don't think he should even be iterated as an Anti-Villain.
@@brendanfrost2475what comcis why do you clowns act like you read comics
@@brendanfrost2475 "finally someone who noticed?" lol
“She uses her powers to kill everyone in her school and town, which is not.....great“
:'D
No, that wasn't great, but she was so badly humiliated right before her rampage that you can feel at least a little sympathy for her. I disliked the mean girl who staged the humiliation more.
Memento 😎
@@georgepalmer5497 series name??
Magneto from the X-men is a classic anti-villain example. The whole series is an allegory to the US Civil Rights Movement between two styles of leadership being Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr.
Anti-villains tend to be much more interesting than your typical villains because they usually have interesting backstories that led them to their path, good-intentioned goals that most people would like to see (though their methods less so), or maybe they are genuinely good people in a bad spot. I wouldn't consider Thanos an anti-villain since he did not think through his plan very well. Rather than bringing stability, he brought utter chaos and confusion to the universe.
A good anti-villain is a likable character with a good nature but has their morality or worldview warped by some tragic event or perhaps another much worse villain.
And 2 face from the dark knight
Agree with Thanos. The way he erased a half of the universe population, is beyond of what Anti-Villain would do.
"I wouldn't consider Thanos an anti-villain since he did not think through his plan very well. Rather than bringing stability, he brought utter chaos and confusion to the universe."
that misses the point entirely, that would be like saying a hero isn't a hero just because they have a bad sense of direction and went to the wrong abandoned warehouse to save hostages, they are still classed as hero, just inept
Anakin Skywalker would be a good example of number 4. He was a good man that circumstance drove him to villainy. This is especially apparent if you've watched Star Wars the Clone Wars animated series where we see that war and the lost it entails leads to him being tempted by Palpatine.
Another good example for the "woobie villain" I think would be Megamind. His constantly being treated as a bad kid because of his blue skin and failed experiments made him turn to the evil side. And in the course of getting to know Roxanne Richie, those wounds heal and he turns good again.
And for the "Villain in name only" I think Rattlesnake Jake from "Rango" is a good example. He's propped up as the BBEG from the moment Rango enters the town of Dirt and shows up and chases Rango out of town and threatens to "Drag [his] soul straight down to Hell!" if he comes back. But in reality he's just a mercenary and when the Mayor turned on him Rattlesnake Jake changed sides and teamed up with Rango to kill the Mayor.
Probably my favorite villain of all time is The Operative from Serenity. He's really interesting as a villain because in some ways he's more honourable than the protagonist, Mal, who is himself an anti-hero. The Operative is fully aware that what he does is evil, but he truly believes it's for the sake of achieving a better world.
Spike from Tom & Jerry, he wants Tom to teach a lesson, but he fails and bullies him instead. he also raised his son named "Tyke"
My favorite antivillain is Mr Freeze. He feels like the pinnacle of both a tragic figure and an antivillain. You understand him. You sympathize with him. Hell you can't help but wonder if you'd do the exact same thing in his shoes, but his actions aren't morally grey. He's a villain. You know, I know it, hell HE knows it. You can fault him, but you still understand why.
The villain of the story I'm currently working on could be considered an antivillain I guess? I'm not sure. He's not actually doing anything evil in the story itself, but the horrible place the world is in at the time is a direct result of his past actions.
I love Mr Freeze because he has motive he’s not evil just to be evil
Ooh, I've always been interested in antivillains!
Ooh, I've always been interested in antivillains!
I think I have an example of a well-intentioned extremist antivillain, even if he made for a rather weak one
(SPOILERS!)
Chairman Rose from Pokemon Sword and Shield
u mean Colin Farrell
The antivillan that's the antagonist though the main character
Perfect example is sidestep in the fallen hero story and it's sequel
I'm almost finished writing what I think is a gothic novel. My main character is an anti-hero (she's a bully, but not evil) and her girlfriend develops into an anti-villain under her influence. Thinking that "bully" equals "evil", she knowingly does increasingly horrible things because she believes this will make the main character (who at times fails to be supportive and kind to her) love her more.
Have you ever finished?
The story i mean
No lie, I would want to read that.
@@somecreativeperson6719 Thank you so much
Although I haven’t written a story for this kind of character, I did create one with a backstory. While I won’t go into the backstory of my anti-villain, I will explain why I consider him an anti-villain.
Suarez Mora (a.k.a. Diablo Daga = Devil’s Dagger) actually runs a gang he formed on his own. In a post-apocalyptic environment outside his home city-state Calivada, he’s a powerful man. Unlike the Road Ranger (my anti-hero) who kills murderers (serial killers, mass murderers, religious extremists, and racist hate groups to name a few) without any second thoughts, El Diablo believes that his enemies can be spared if they willingly submit to his rule. Which in a way is kind of like forgiving his enemies for their trespasses but with a catch.
As a means of establishing and maintain order, Suarez is trying to reestablish a centuries-long dead empire which is the Spanish Empire. Driven by his Spanish bloodline and heritage, he claims that he is the descendant of Hernan Cortes. And while he is trying to establish order in a largely lawless region, he does run a mafia-like gang. So really while he is technically doing something good, he has a sinister motive behind it all. And as you can guess, yes he’s basically the arch-adversary to my anti-hero.
Try the story “Worm” from the parahumans series by wildbow. The creator actually changed their mind on why the main character would be cause the villain he made fit into the role better. It’s all about a girl making the wrong choices for the right reasons.
Sadly a major theme of the story is “it gets worse” so it’s not for the faint of heart. People who participate in the fandom even go as far as to call it grimderp
The secondary antagonist of my main book series is a woobie anti-villain.
Magneto=Anti-Villain
Deadpool=Anti-Hero
True.
Heroes: Action & Reactions -> Good
Villains: Actions & Reactions -> Evil
Anti-Heroes: Act -> Evil... RAct-> Good
Anti-Villains: Act -> Good ... RAct -> Evil
I accidentally wrote an anti villain for my dnd campaign and I watched this for research. This was very helpful and to the point, thank you so much
Eren Jaeger
Thanos is an anti-villain. Never knew.
Magneto from X Men is the same way if you think about it.
I hate him, but he really is!
More like hero in my perspective..
In the MCU, yes. In the comics, he's one of the most boring villains IMO.
@@hellonhead5905 same
I am writing an anti-villain that's similar to Darth Vader. While his goals is to destroy a greater evil, he is a monster no better in terms of genocide.
Edit (and rather spoilers): He's ALL types of anti-villains. Starting with The Villain in Name, to The Woobie Villain, to The Noble Anti-Villain, to The Well-Intentioned Extremist. Again, his ultimate goal is to destroy a greater evil that the heroes would be willing to destroy, but is ultimately the villain because of his genocidal means of achieving such goals.
An anti hero is a cruel and bloody hero,or a neutral person which in the deep is good.
Examples:
Deadpool
Venom(movie)
Wolverine
Batman(Nolan trilogy)
Maybe also Feri Ats
An anti villain is a villain that is not cruel bot honest and/or with an achievement that they want to achieve and that's makes sense in some ways but is wrong.
Also corrupted heroes or conflicted villains.
Examples:
Thanos
Grand Admiral Thrawn
Darth Maul
And obviously Darth Vader
And also Joker(2019)
Count Dooku
Kylo Ren
my favourite anti villain is probably funny valentine from steel ball run. he does bad stuff so we still root for Johnny but at the same time and spoilers ahead
funny valentine wanted the corpse parts for the future of America whereas Johnny just wanted them for himself
I would recommend watching "The Convincing Villainy of Funny Valentine" by Oceaniz. Valentine isn't really a sympathetic character with noble, or even reasonable, goals. He's just a really good politician.
Best anti-villain: Dr. Doofenshmirtz
Dr Doom is a good example of Anti-villain
No he is not, he is a full on villain
This video helped me alot to develop my antivillian- Caeli Kafla ! His determination to eliminate the fundamental factions in the world to create peace . In order to stop war, he believes he has to eliminate everyone who holds a grudge. One of my favorite characters I've written
For the greater Good
-Grindlewand
Hi there! Thanks for the awesome video. I've been looking everywhere for information on anti-heroes and anti villains for sometime now, and haven't been able to find anything online. Did you take this information from a text? If so could you possibly tell me which one or direct me towards something that might be helpful? You're a legend!
Johnnie from the first Karate kid. But Kobra Kai i think goes in between Anti hero and Anti villain. Magneto and Killmonger might be seen as Anti Villains as well.
Stain from MHA is by far my favorite anti-villian.
My favorite is gentle.
I'm thinking of making the main character of my story an anti-villain, and this video helped SO much. Thank you!
My favorite anti-villains are the following.
Kumoko, from "I'm a spider, so what?", gets isekai'd as a monstrous spider. The world is doomed and her goals are only to save her "friends" so to most of humanity she is a villain.
Reinhardt, from "Demon prince goes to the Academy", dies and has to sign a contract where he gets isekai'd to one of the novel he wrote. He becomes the demon prince which is the absolute antagonist of humanity and has to go into hiding as a student in the biggest human city. He only knows the world is doomed and has to build a power base while being the "villain in name only".
Is Gollum from Lord of the Rings an anti-villain? When he was Sméagol he was just a happy hobbit, but the magic of the Ring tainted him and magnified any bad qualities he had, enough so that he would kill for greed and desire. So really it was the ring that made him evil by being exposed to it.
I think Darth Vader becomes an anti-villian too.
I've attempted to write one. His name is Falcon.
He's a villain, but he doesn't want to be too bad because he knows there are still good people in the world who mean no harm. Those are not to be targeted, and instead the badness in this world. Falcon sounds like a hero, but he is not, because heroes don't do the things he does, and when he is a hero, it's too subtle to count. Falcon refuses to be called a hero or a villain. He's just... Falcon. And often when a villain kidnaps someone, they torture them or treat them badly. When he HAS to kidnap someone, he treats them with a lot of respect, and honestly it wouldn't surprise me if the victim wanted to stay with Falcon, because he's actually a really nice guy if you treat him with the right amount of respect. But if the victim has wronged him in any way, then he won't be as nice to them...
Also, he uses quite advanced vocabulary, and this is sometimes one of the reasons people like him because that combined with the tone of voice he uses sounds oddly comforting. When he's mad, it feels like you're a small child being yelled at by an adult. Both scary and makes you feel like a horrible person.
Idk what else to say
Realizes every favorite character was a Woobie Villian...
Wondering if Bridge On The River Kwai features two antivillains: Sessue Hayakawa is a 2, and Alec Guinness is a 4. And William Holden is a bit of an antihero, now that I think about it. 🤔
really well explained - thank you!
I made an anti-villain, his name is omega, he is a glitch that leads the glitches, he resembles a blue glitch but with an eye in a mouth like a red glitch. Why is he an anti-villain? Well, Omega is Voxel’s father. But Omega is not the main antagonist, the main antagonist is Illuminati Prime, the embodiment of all negative power itself.
One of my favorite anti villains would be Garou from One punch man.
Garou more like anti-hero
tbh i wasnt writing a book, but i did enjoy that you explained it very well :)
The perfect Woobie Villain is Magneto! That dude tried SO hard to be “good”. He’s my favorite!
Your definition of a Woobie Villain fits an important NPC for a ttrpg campaign i run. They where raised by a single father, where abducted as an early teen given extremely painful cybernetics that gave them superhuman strength and durability(but only for the cybernetics) father passed away while they where kidnapped, was outcastes and joined a fighting ring, found actual friends and became a hero, started dating one of their friends, but their girlfriend dies friends get split up at work, gets stuck with some dude they don't care for at first just to eventually get close and then he gets severely injured so the character teams up with an old friend to get revenge but the old friend dies before they are able to get revenge which ends up sending them of the deep end.
Ra's Al Ghul, Handsome Jack and the Operative from Serenity are my faves
Shirou Kotomine, a great anti-villain
The main character in Love, Death & Robots S3 E2 "Bad Traveling" is a great example of an anti-villain!
I am trying to write a character that would under any light a villain but he more than that. he does some heroic things or honorable things under his own moral code. It is hard to write him.
Another good anti-villain is Sheriff "Little" Bill Dagget in the movie "Unforgiven". He is a violent, sadistic man, but he has some insight into the nature of his job. When he talks about other gunfighters, he says, "They don't have any character, not even bad character." He beats the daylights out of English Bob and Clint Eastwood, with the help of his armed deputies. He does this to anyone else who comes into his town wearing a gun. He beats Clint Eastwoods partner, Ned, to death. But he believes he is on the side of right. He believes he is vastly better than the men he brutalizes. Near the end of the movie, when he is laying wounded on the floor, waiting for Clint Eastwood to kill him, he says, "I don't deserve this." It is interesting that "Little" Bill has no wife. One never shows up in the movie. It could be that the man is so sadistic that he doesn't have emotions left over after his job. His nickname "Little" Bill could be a reference to the size of his penis. There is nothing else about him that is little. What else could it be?
I kinda have an anti-villain concept, a villain who basically their only weakness is their morality. They are a villain in the sense that when up against the protagonists they don't hold back (and yes that includes not being afraid of murder, they are a villain after all), but they will actively sabotage things if it means protecting innocents.
In the end this being the only thing the heroes can use to defeat them they basically make it look like some innocents are in danger luring them into a trap. The villain is defeated and sent to jail or something like, but before they do they have a little moment being like "you know, lying about lives being in danger isn't the most heroic thing. I've always made an effort to keep a clean record, and yet you heroes are allowed to do something like this and still be treated as heroes? Tell me, hero, does the ends always justify the means? Because if you truly believe it does, I think you'll find you're not as heroic as you think you are"
One of my favorite childhood antivillians is Ganondorf from the windwaker
I love anti villain.😍💜
Ok, so every main villain from Naruto basically
No pain and madara and obito and.....well you’re right yes every villain except zetsu and kaguya
Pretty much lmaoooo
its sad how naruto has so many characters to be analysed, but somehow people miss mentioning them and yet its so famous.
I think orochimaru is complete villain, but sure other are anti-villain, plus sasuke is an anit-hero same as itachi ig
@@amshudharasbhat883 Naruto has such large diversity of character ranging from Pure Hero : Naruto
Pure Villain : Orochimaru
Anit-Hero : Sasuke
Anti-Villain : pretty much every on lol
Even Severus Snape type Character : Itachi
Manford Torondo from the Dune prequels was a great anti-villain, in many senses.
Favorite anti-villain who i think i fall in multiple categories is Rumplestiltskin from Once Upon a Time
The entire idea of giving villains redeeming qualities does make a certain amount of sense for certain types of stories. But I've never found a way to make it work when the point of view is first-person. Their viewpoint, of a villain who presents of mortal threat to them, is not going to dwell on any redeeming qualities that villain might have, and their redeeming qualities just are not in any way important to a viewpoint character with that point of view.
Since the first-person story is filtered completely through the view from that character, it seems pretty unrealistic that they might mention redeeming qualities of a villain who wants to kill them.
The only thing I could find that worked was to give the villain a pet Chihuahua that he doted on, which showed that he had a love of animals. This contrasted with the fact that he had a mortal hatred for the protagonist.
It worked for James Bond. His villains never seemed to have any redeeming qualities, other than Blofeld, who was constantly petting his white Persian.
Zuko from the avatar? Is he an anti-villian? He was first the badguy, but he become a good person in the story.
Mr.freeze is a good example to me as an anti villain
My favourite anti-villain is Mr Freeze in Batman the Animated Series.
For those looking for a story that stands above the laws of generic genres, Look out for the chronicles of “The Ten Terrors”. A story where the themes of Heroes and Villains are never that simple…
So these two tropes can almost bleed into one another so to speak or be interchangeable in certain circumstances?
My two favorites are Madara Uchiha and Eric Killmonger from the MCU
Doc oct from spiderman 2?
Or closer to homelander?
people dont think anti villains even exist
The thing about anti villains is that they can be easily turned into anti heroes by perspective
For example, in stranger things, the character who wants to kill Eddie can easily be argued to both anti hero(he doesn’t know Eddie didn’t sacrifice the person) but is seen first as an anti villain since we know the truth.
Obito one of the best woobie villian
More of the extremist type as he killed hundreds of thousands and created the bloody mist tradition..
i wonder if James Bond is an anti hero or an anti villain !!
One of the characters I made is a Woobie Villain.
Magneto has to be the best anti villain i have ever seen
You haven't watched Naruto then lol
@@adixo1851 lol na i grew up watching naruto my favorite villain was pain
@@Mcsnickers_7 Pain was sure my fav one at first but man obito just ..... 🤧
To be honest I sort of take the view that all antagonists should be anti-villains. Everyone in real life to some degree or another considers themselves the "good guy" in their biography, so it should be that way in most fictional narratives as well.
I like this perspective a lot!
My only villain is an anti villain
My book is starring an anti villain who is almost all these
Do pragmatic villains fall under the anti-villain umbrella? Thinking because of the fact that they only do evil when they think it’s absolutely necessary.
The illusive man from mass effect 2
Archon - pure villian
Goku - pure hero
(From anime war)
Saint Dane is in the same category as Thanos
Does Megamind is an anti-villain ?
Tomura Shigaraki🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Abhigel can talk to Sam.
A well-intentioned extremist is not a true anti-villain, and I will argue it to my heart’s content in the relies if so be it.
Goku black is an antivillian?
What category of Anti-Hero would "Noximilien the Clock Maker" from Wakfu?
Well intentioned extremist. If he had been right, his actions would have only harmed him. But he was wrong, so tragically wrong.
@@Sorain1 Damn true... I didn't think him an extremist because I always relate that to political ideologies. Didn't even think it applies to selfish goals.
@@singularity1130 It stuck out to me, mostly because it makes the entire story a tragedy. If Nox had just tried his idea on smaller scale, tested how far a given amount of fuel could take him? He would have realized it was impossible. But he was acting on emotion, driven in a way we can relate to (if never fully understand) and that makes Nox a brilliant antagonist. Because we have all made similar mistakes, of cutting after measuring only once, instead of twice. Of going after something because we need it so badly without wanting to consider if it's impossible because we (emotionally) can't accept that it could be.
Extremist is used for politics and misused there often, but in the end it is only a matter of degree. Even a selfless goal, when taken too far is a form of extremism. It's funny how we tend to latch onto one definition of a word, when they all seem to have more than one, isn't it?
Who is Carey (sp?)?
Would a person doing good things for an evil reason be an anti villain
I am writing one. His religion makes him believe he's in the right even though the creatures that are created have to have human flesh otherwise they cannot be controlled.
How would you classify a female bounty hunter who doesn't shy away from killing others whether for the job or personal gain, and whose goal is being in search for a presumably dead sister to which she refuses to believe? She has some noble aspects, such as refuses to hurt children of young age, however shooting their parents if it is part of the job is something she won't hesitate with.
Magneto is favorite
Woobie? Or would-be?
Ozymandias from Watchmen is a great Anti-Villain
Eren bring me here
He definitely is a anti villain
I think till current anime release, he seems kinda anti-hero than anti-villain, though I haven't read manga so cant say about that.
Injustice Superman. He would be considered to be an anti villain. The legend of Korra have anti villains as well. Characters with noble goals but take their ideology too far. Anime like Naruto when he fights against Pain and Obito are anti villains.
Harry Flashman is the best anti-villian.
Ra's al ghul
Doom' marvel comics
magneto is the best anti-villain to ever exist
How to deal with making a villain that not only have a moral reason to do the villanous act, but are also gloomy? how do you make someone so sad about what they're doing feel like a threat and not as someone who had already defeaded themself?
If the non-anti-villain is a mustache twirling baddie, and the other villains are the anti-villains, then there can be no well written villains (cause they're evil for the sake of it), only well written anti-villains (cause they have depth - as described here)
Forgive me (sorry if the above sentence was confusing) but I'm going to disagree. You cannot call a flat baddie a 'villain', and call deep villains 'anti-villains'. That makes no sense. There are only deep villains, and very few exceptions where an evil-to-be-evil villain is well written and apt for the story. All the other villains are just badly written characters
Which type of anti-villain is Jason Todd?
Jason Todd is anti-hero not anti-villian
Maybe they die in the end by saving the hero
Edit: and the hero watched the anti villain die infront of him slowly