iOS 16.3 Hardware Security Keys explained - Should you use them?

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  • @9to5Mac
    @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Let me know if you guys and gals have any specific questions that you'd like answered. - Jeff

    • @aaronburns7477
      @aaronburns7477 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey man at 2:18 your showing your trusted phone number in the menu settings.

    • @win183672
      @win183672 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do these keys have a battery that can deplete or they can theoretically last a lifetime ?

    • @andrewgrant788
      @andrewgrant788 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about an Apple ID password reset? Is the hardware key needed for that.

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@win183672 no battery. yubico estimates the life expectancy of their keys to 30+ years.

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewgrant788 see "Use a security key to reset your Apple ID password"

  • @shapelessbb
    @shapelessbb ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great video as always man. Another in depth master class in ios/tech. These are the deepdives that 9to5Mac needed. So glad you're back.

  • @KypHeM
    @KypHeM ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally a person that shows how to actually use the keys. I had to click through maybe 20 videos and all they showed how to add keys not how to use them you are the only one that actually showed how to use them.

  • @Jrl831
    @Jrl831 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video!

  • @techboss202
    @techboss202 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have found that the Google Titan Keys work too. I wish iPads had NFC but at least they are usb-c now.

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I wish all devices had NFC. It's so much more convenient using keys that way.

  • @AdidasLove
    @AdidasLove ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for this breakdown. 😊😊

  • @ShanetheTechguyDC
    @ShanetheTechguyDC ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey Jeff, this video is awesome! Thank you so much for making such a clear and well done video to explain this detailed process! Best explanation I have seen. Thank you.

  • @fredbureau-russell7718
    @fredbureau-russell7718 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Why don’t they build one of these NFC security keys into an AirTag so then I just have to carry that around

    • @hallo_ween07
      @hallo_ween07 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      cause everyone can use it then

    • @Panther1th
      @Panther1th ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Great idea I’m sure it’s coming. Lol First they created the problem then created the solution. This is step one offering a new security option but it needs a key.. next comes “air tags pro” all the tracking plus nfc key functionality. Won’t as concerned about losing security key.. can even make other existing air tag automatically be backup with a nice automatic tap function. Oh it’s coming lol

    • @fredbureau-russell7718
      @fredbureau-russell7718 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hallo_ween07 as opposed to the NFC/lightning security key that is clearly only for Apple users. How would the AirTag NFC security key be any different?

    • @fredbureau-russell7718
      @fredbureau-russell7718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Panther1th yes please then I’ll get one

    • @verify8295
      @verify8295 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah in that case airtag 2nd generation will be 300 usd.😂😂😂

  • @douglasemsantos
    @douglasemsantos ปีที่แล้ว

    Very comprehensive overview! Thx you!

  • @XinYu-Xi
    @XinYu-Xi ปีที่แล้ว

    Super good detail instruction. Thanks a lot

  • @samilojia
    @samilojia ปีที่แล้ว

    So nice to hear your voice Jeff!

  • @MrBlaq
    @MrBlaq ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @cohall46
    @cohall46 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful and very detailed. Nice job, Thanks for sharing.

  • @applerunner1184
    @applerunner1184 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent comprehensive video!

  • @allen9975
    @allen9975 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff Jeff 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤘🏻

  • @Soljie1969
    @Soljie1969 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, very detailed . Thanks much.

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Wayne, I hope you come back and visit.

  • @miyu545
    @miyu545 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Set up an ubico key with PIV, which worked like a charm, but couldn't get two keys working. Restrictions with processors. So, I removed the key. Used the MAC for two weeks without a problem going back to password only, no key. Removed all the apps and key only profile. Then one day it asked me for the pin, pin only. I had to wipe the OS. This is why MACs are good for entertainment purposes only.

  • @joshhuber130
    @joshhuber130 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will the keys make it harder for someone to change your Apple ID password if the figured out your phone passcode?

  • @dr.nunzio_improta
    @dr.nunzio_improta ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome. My respects.

  • @iordash20
    @iordash20 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So you can remove keys without need the keys? just the phone code???😢😮

  • @MikelManitius
    @MikelManitius ปีที่แล้ว

    Really well done video Jeff. Very comprehensive and clear. Thank you.

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Mikel.

  • @Peakseasonlogistics
    @Peakseasonlogistics 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How can I use the keys if I lose my Iphone ??

  • @richardkoolen8396
    @richardkoolen8396 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Thanks for all your trouble of testing different scenarios. Getting my two Yubi keys tomorrow and setting this up. Im reconning I put one Yubi key witch Usb-C on my keychain which has a AirTag on it and put one I the same fault I put met secret key for iCloud advanced data protection.

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds like you have a plan.

  • @TJCCBR47
    @TJCCBR47 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will ask for my security key when I try to change the AppleID password inside of settings, instead of asking for my pass code?

  • @ByteMeCompletely
    @ByteMeCompletely 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently bought a Yubikey 5 Nano and a 5Ci. I can register the 5Ci as a security key with my iPhone SE2, but not the Nano. These products are too difficult. I wasted $135.

  • @Deaftonz
    @Deaftonz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can u have keys and 2fa phone numbers at the same time

  • @PAVCo-wk6lq
    @PAVCo-wk6lq ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the HDR options

  • @mementomori29231
    @mementomori29231 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video!! Does this address Passcode gate issue?

  • @mike65085
    @mike65085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the thoroughly detailed look at Security Keys and all the different scenarios they can be used in.

  • @AaronMcFarland
    @AaronMcFarland ปีที่แล้ว

    4K HDR video, nice!!

  • @johny1220
    @johny1220 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great explanation man, I really wanna get a set of the YubiKey security keys for my accounts! 😄

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Be careful. It’s not all unicorns and rainbows.

    • @johny1220
      @johny1220 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@majorgear1021 seems like it is to me. :) but jokes aside, I’m usually as careful as can be with this sort of stuff lol. My cousin who is a software engineer also gave me a few tips and uses them as well. Thanks for the concern though!

  • @levan1d
    @levan1d ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, that was very informative. What about LGTV - you have one in your list of devices. Would it be out of the "team" the same as "icloud for Windows"?

  • @anthonyla217
    @anthonyla217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice! Thanks for sharing.

  • @bagrubmeister4973
    @bagrubmeister4973 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video, This is a vary good explanation! Question do you know if you can use the same 2 securities keys for 2 different apple accounts? example my wife and I have 2 different accounts. Can we use the same keys?

  • @hughluttrell6350
    @hughluttrell6350 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    impossible for someone disabled can`t enter on small phone keyboard,make many mistakes typing this in on a rull size machanical keyboard on a
    x86 desktop.

  • @MrSxpd
    @MrSxpd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jeff has the best content without fluff. He is very thorough and for me, understandable.👏

  • @anthonylethbridge458
    @anthonylethbridge458 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. If you are away from home and don’t have one of the keys with you and you need to use two factor authorization. Do you just remove the security keys from the system using your iPhone then use two factor authorization and then put the keys back on the iphone system when you return home?

    • @victorcarmelo8606
      @victorcarmelo8606 ปีที่แล้ว

      From what I understand from this video is that you need a third key to remove the keys so, presumably if you loose your phone no one can get into your iCloud account without the third key, I think!

  • @augustbiernbaum4841
    @augustbiernbaum4841 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this video HDR? It’s way brighter than the other parts of the screen.

  • @MichelCastonguay
    @MichelCastonguay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beware, yubico is NOT compatible with recent iPad usb-c. iPad Lightning works fine ... weird!

  • @dindu42
    @dindu42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When you added the blue key to your iphone using NFC - do you also have to add it to a Mac with the USB-C port or does adding via one method also validate it for use on your account via the USB-C connection ?

    • @estusflask982
      @estusflask982 ปีที่แล้ว

      The connection method doesn't matter.

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      The key is tied to your icloud account. So it's for everywhere you're using that account.

  • @brianb6603
    @brianb6603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question, can I use a set of security keys for 2 different appleID’s (mine and my wife’s)? It would simplify (and reduce the cost considerably).

  • @MrSamPhoenix
    @MrSamPhoenix ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation, most videos show how to set them up but don’t explain exactly what they do.

  • @Giusie79
    @Giusie79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you remove the keys while logged in but without having the key with you?

    • @Giusie79
      @Giusie79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nevermind ... answer was in the video

  • @TARS..
    @TARS.. ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, at 2:27 though you seem to have your phone number unburied if that matters to you, just a heads up!

  • @cnicolo
    @cnicolo ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much Jeff

  • @majorgear1021
    @majorgear1021 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard that there is an issue with Apple
    silicon computers where only the last used yubikey can decrypt the filevault.
    That makes the having more than one key worthless.

  • @CyberSavage
    @CyberSavage ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible to use these keys only as a 2FA for passwords only and not to log into iPhones? I’d like to be able to continue to use my 6 character password to log into my locked iPhone, but still use a key to use as 2FA to log into apps such as banks, credit cards, etc. using LastPass? Thanks!

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1. These keys are not used to log into iphones, they're used when logging in with your icloud account. 2. You can still use your passcode. 3. Your Lastpass account and Icloud account are separate accounts.

  • @john-cv9dy
    @john-cv9dy ปีที่แล้ว

    Exceptional vid. Very comprehensive & clarity is superb. Thank you.

  • @An.Individual
    @An.Individual ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 4 Yubikeys I use for PGP but I'm not going to set them up with my Apple ID. No fallback puts me off.

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean by that?

    • @An.Individual
      @An.Individual ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@9to5Mac I mean iCloud does not automatically fallback to the 6 digit code on devices not capable of using security keys. I would have to remove the keys everytime I want to login to iCloud Windows or my iPad Mini 2 (ios 12). I think Apple may change this behaviour in the future and it's secure enough for me already.

    • @charleswhite2426
      @charleswhite2426 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trashcan Mac so can't use keys for everything else but still use the old Mac?

  • @TheSonyExperience
    @TheSonyExperience ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank god your back! And the beautiful HDR videos. Love it

  • @garyhenwood-fox9814
    @garyhenwood-fox9814 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just added security keys to my iPhone. I changed my Apple ID but was not prompted for security key ? I was expecting a request security key so my Apple ID could not be changed in the event of iphone was stolen. Also it seems security keys can be removed without any security key verification beforehand.

    • @estusflask982
      @estusflask982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They would have to get past your lockscreen first..

  • @mikeellis4345
    @mikeellis4345 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a new iPhone 14 pro max but an older 2011 MacBook Pro, what will happen if I’m locked out of my MacBook Pro by this key? Lots to unpack in this video.

  • @nfkb
    @nfkb ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, thank you for the video, I read that children accounts are not managed by Yubikeys. But, I guess that you cans till mange them, it's just that they are not protected by the Yubikey as 2FA right ? thank you

  • @maboesanman
    @maboesanman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was robbed a while ago and they demanded my passcode at gunpoint. They then used the code to reset my Apple ID by using the trusted device PIN codes on the phone they had stolen.
    Once they reset that they were able to turn off find my, which meant I was no longer covered by apple care theft and loss.
    With a security key like this left at home, they would have been able to do much less damage, as I would have been able to put the device in lost mode.
    This setup could save you >$1000 for a new phone, and possibly more by cutting off identity theft possibilities.

    • @topsyturvy8698
      @topsyturvy8698 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Recent under iOS 17.4, you are made to wait 1 hour before you can change your password.

  • @FrankWein
    @FrankWein ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you also secure two AppleIDs with a pair of keys or does my wife need a second pair of keys?

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      there are no limits to how many accounts you use a key with

    • @FrankWein
      @FrankWein ปีที่แล้ว

      @@senchaholic Thank you.

  • @bbyever
    @bbyever ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It looks like you can remove the keys with just the device passcode. That seems to defeat the purpose because if someone steals your phone and has your device passcode, not even the Apple ID password, that’s enough to remove any added protection from the keys.

    • @bluemason
      @bluemason ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that’s the way it looks to me too. I thought these keys might be the solution to the problem you mention but I think not now having watched this. WSJ has done a piece on theft of passcode + phone.

    • @bbyever
      @bbyever ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bluemason I just watched that video and came here to see if security keys could help, but it doesn’t seem like it.

    • @ca2997
      @ca2997 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know right! Seems like a massive fail on apples part to not make you authenticate with one of the keys before you can remove them both 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @greno541
      @greno541 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you know the pin of the phone you can remove the keys. What were they thinking. Useless feature

  • @johnnygoodface
    @johnnygoodface ปีที่แล้ว

    When I go thru the 2 keys registration on my iPhone, I get "Security keys not supported." for my MacBookPro11,1 listed in the active devices. Of course I can't upgrade to Ventura (with OpenCore), so what will happen if I complete the 2 keys registration? --> I won't be able to use my AppleID on that Mac?

  • @rogerf3622
    @rogerf3622 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent lay down Jeff! So glad you’re back. You just brushed on the topic but you can use the Yubico key in place of a login on a Mac. Perhaps a video on that…hint…hint.

  • @MikeCTRVLR
    @MikeCTRVLR ปีที่แล้ว

    How rugged are these keys? And, do you recommend having a back up key?

    • @dalesupertramp9234
      @dalesupertramp9234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apple requires that you enroll two separate keys so you have a backup key. If you lose both keys, you will need a new Apple ID.

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      The yubikeys are very rugged. But backups are still essential.

  • @emerelle3535
    @emerelle3535 ปีที่แล้ว

    So.. few weeks ago I saw that documentary (or what you want to call it) about how ppl look other ppl over the shoulder to see them putting in their pin before they steal the iPhone and change AppleID Password and Stuff. I thought those Security Keys could help, but if you know the pin, you can just remove them? :O

  • @robwin0072
    @robwin0072 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello.
    You mentioned that Yubikey would not work with PC iCloud; then how would I access their iCloud from Windows 10 PC?

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can't. You don't use physical keys if you need to access iCloud on Windows. Sorry.

  • @alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2
    @alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:35 wut apple still lets you use a four-digit passcode and how do you do that eight is supported too

  • @Panther1th
    @Panther1th ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great detailed well presented explanation. This was a great video. Keep them coming

  • @cliftonparchment4498
    @cliftonparchment4498 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do we know if these keys aren’t compromised. Is there a specific standard for these keys.

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Such as cloned? I don't think there's really any way to verify that. But I may have misinterpreted your question. If any smarter security folks here that can chime in, please have at it.

    • @cliftonparchment4498
      @cliftonparchment4498 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@9to5Mac your interpretation is spot on. I’m taking the wait and see approach.

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cliftonparchment4498 According to Random Bogey, you can't clone it with the flipperzero, so there's that.

    • @fritzlb
      @fritzlb ปีที่แล้ว

      As far as I know there are open source keys so that everyone can check for security vulnerabilities. Also, cloning those keys should be impossible because they‘re using a challenge-response method so the „secret“ never leaves the key.

    • @bassyey
      @bassyey ปีที่แล้ว

      The way they work is that they're like your keys. They need physical access to it.

  • @milkandhenny
    @milkandhenny ปีที่แล้ว

    You stated when you enable FIDO2 first and then UBF they key is recognised as two separate keys at 5:35
    Does that mean that you could use it as "two" security keys to bypass the Apple minimum requirement?

    • @everyhandletaken
      @everyhandletaken ปีที่แล้ว

      maybe, but probably not.
      either way, you need 2 keys, in case of losing 1 key.

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      even if it would work, it wouldn't be a good choice. You need to have backup keys.

    • @milkandhenny
      @milkandhenny ปีที่แล้ว

      @@senchaholic I'm aware but if I'm thinking of doing this; I don't particularly care about that.

  • @penigbuya55uy55
    @penigbuya55uy55 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the feitan epass doesn't work on Samsung phones?

  • @chuckwhite3033
    @chuckwhite3033 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what happens when you lose your keys?

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You create a new Apple
      id and start over.

  • @ddschur
    @ddschur ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video BUT I’m a little confused. My wife has an iPad that uses my Apple ID. I have an iPhone, iPad M2 and a MacBook Air with M2. I’d like to set up use the hardware keys for MY devices but NOT on my wife’s iPad. Can I do that or am I prevented from doing that because we use my Apple ID for her iPad?

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hardware keys are at the Apple ID level, not device level. So if you enable keys for Apple ID, any device that uses that Apple ID is affected. That said, once the device is authenticated, you shouldn’t regularly need key access for most things.

    • @richardpetty9159
      @richardpetty9159 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Security keys are associated with an AppleID account. If your wife is using your device (even if she’s just borrowing it), then she will eventually be prompted for your key at some point, depending on what she’s doing.
      If you play fast and loose with your security by letting other people use your equipment, you are opening yourself up to security risks anyway.
      Get her her own security keys to use with her own account. Account sharing is an awful, terrible idea. Even if you can get it to work, it’s confusing and introduces a uncertainty into the set up.
      Security and uncertainty do not go together.

  • @stevefowble
    @stevefowble ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question, When I'm ready to trade in my 13 pro max for the new 15, do I need to remove the security keys from my old phone?

    • @estusflask982
      @estusflask982 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you trade in your phone, just factory reset it. That's all you have to do.

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      The key is tied to your icloud account, not your device.

  • @rlifts
    @rlifts ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this video is for modern Imacs cause mine can't do 4k HDR on this video lol.

  • @kumamonkumamoto3844
    @kumamonkumamoto3844 ปีที่แล้ว

    can I only use a security key for the apple id account? or also for other "websites" like ebay or a bank account? if so how do i do that?

    • @estusflask982
      @estusflask982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can use the security key for all accounts that support it. Big ones are Ebay, Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Twitter, etc. Banks don't support them, because banks are big fans of insecure ancient technology like SMS 2FA.

    • @kumamonkumamoto3844
      @kumamonkumamoto3844 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@estusflask982 I was reading a lot the past days and looks like that Passkeys are the next big thingy? They are just stored on your phone, like in the password app and are used to identify your several accounts

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kumamonkumamoto3844 Passkeys are essentially the soft equivalent of a hardware key. Note that a passkey, in contrast to a hardware key, is tied to whatever system you create it on and can't easily, if it's even possible, be migrated. Check this first.

  • @goatqi
    @goatqi ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that you can't use Apple applications on Windows with this enabled is simply ridiculous.

  • @aayaan1935
    @aayaan1935 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel tells me about the iPhone accessories I never knew I needed 😂

  • @grandsome
    @grandsome ปีที่แล้ว

    Man this HDR is 🔥

  • @nri_raj
    @nri_raj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best video on internet

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh please…

  • @amangeorge2407
    @amangeorge2407 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what if i lose or someone stole my iphone and everything is logged in my iphone and have very sensetive information like passwords, Credit Card details and other important documents are in the iPhone. Can they open my iphone with just password or do they need this security key to get into my phone to access my sensitive information?

    • @everyhandletaken
      @everyhandletaken ปีที่แล้ว

      You could sign out of that device, from another ?

    • @amangeorge2407
      @amangeorge2407 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@everyhandletaken what if that person changed my login password and everything and logged me off of everything before i could do anything? Then will this security key be of any use?

    • @everyhandletaken
      @everyhandletaken ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@amangeorge2407 good question. If they knew the passcode to unlock & you didn’t have a security key, then they could.
      I can’t test it, but I don’t think it would be different with the security key.
      To me, I think it should be required to present the security key when viewing your Apple ID details on the device, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

  • @1025Dom
    @1025Dom ปีที่แล้ว

    So what happens if your phone and apple key is stolen from you?

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว

      You still have the first factor, your password.

  • @JustinHerbertTD
    @JustinHerbertTD ปีที่แล้ว

    What if these security keys stop working one day?

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      yubico estimates the life expectancy of their keys to 30+ years.

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      yubico estimates the life expectancy of their keys to 30+ years. But you should have backup keys.

  • @ca2997
    @ca2997 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why would apple allow you to remove the keys without first you authenticating with one of the keys? Seems like a massive fail I wanted to set this up in case someone steals my phone and knows my pin so they can’t take over my account. I guess apple were not thinking about physical thefts with this new security keys feature. Hopefully in a future iOS update they can add this it then would be perfect attackers couldn’t just remove your keys then change your Apple ID password.

    • @greno541
      @greno541 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you know the pin of the phone you can remove the keys. What were they thinking. Useless feature

  • @MoDoza623
    @MoDoza623 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you clone that cleave that key with the flipper zero?

    • @RandomBogey
      @RandomBogey ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope. Already tried…

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RandomBogey Good to know...

    • @RandomBogey
      @RandomBogey ปีที่แล้ว

      @@9to5Mac That’s not to say there isn’t a more advanced method of cloning, that just exceeds my knowledge of NFC/the Flipper, that could potentially be used with the Flipper hardware to clone a key. But, as far as some rando with a Flipper (running the stock Flipper firmware) being able to clone your NFC security key, then use it to log in to one of your accounts, I don’t think it’s possible…

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RandomBogey Yubico has covered this in one of their support articles.

  • @esfuda
    @esfuda ปีที่แล้ว

    No

  • @hussienalsafi1149
    @hussienalsafi1149 ปีที่แล้ว

    😍😍😍🤠🤠🤠😎😎😎

  • @theloniousMac
    @theloniousMac ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh God. 23 minute video. Let me get a scotch first.

  • @tonymeadows100
    @tonymeadows100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would I use a key that I could lose (yes, I’m that stupid) when I can just get Apple to send me a 6-digit security code to a trusted device? What am I missing …I don’t get it 🤔

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's the thing, physical keys aren't as convenient. However, if you're extremely concerned about security, physical keys are more secure, because they are not susceptible to phishing attacks where a bad actor could intercept your 6-digit code, and use that to access your account. The likelihood of that happening is slim, but if you're a high profile target, that likelihood rises slightly.

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have one phone with 2FA activated and loose that, you're going to have issues logging in to your icloud account. Having the 2FA solution separate from your phone feels better to me.

  • @fritzlb
    @fritzlb ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you just leak your phone number at 2:45 ?

  • @IskandarM_
    @IskandarM_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m gonna wait. When Apple adopted Qi charging we suddenly see a flux of new wireless charging accessories that are innovative and great. The same will be true for fido keys I’m pretty sure more nicer looking ones will come out soon. I’d probably go for something that looks like a normal card that I can keep in my wallet.

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      already available to buy

  • @jtr82369
    @jtr82369 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am hoping this new feature is usable as a replacement for the 4/6 digit code of the device itself (when biometrics don't work) and for the new iCloud encryption feature so I don't have to search for the massive number that you are required to remember.

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic ปีที่แล้ว

      no, this doesn't replace the need to store (I'm not sure it's possible to remember) the recovery code somewhere safe.

    • @jtr82369
      @jtr82369 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@senchaholic I misspoke, I mean I hope it will be an option in the future along with other security/device functions.

  • @timr8317
    @timr8317 ปีที่แล้ว

    You realize you just published your number right?

  • @tenzingngodub641
    @tenzingngodub641 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine you devices are stolen together with this key device, now what 😅

    • @estusflask982
      @estusflask982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why you have a backup in another location.

  • @vali20vali20vali20
    @vali20vali20vali20 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that they bothered to create custom messages that acknowledge the existence of security keys on older versions, yet they won't let those sign in just shows this is just another poor attempt by Apple to forcefully get you onto the latest version of the OS, as it's customary for them.

  • @matthewmastrobuono582
    @matthewmastrobuono582 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if I had an iPhone 7

  • @MR-vj8dn
    @MR-vj8dn ปีที่แล้ว

    16.2 is not a firmware, it's a version of the OS.

  • @kohoki666
    @kohoki666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Useless and if i have to carry around another device. I would it find better, if the iPhone itself could be used as FIDO2 Key

    • @9to5Mac
      @9to5Mac  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s what the six digit codes are for essentially. You already use your iPhone or other verified device as a key.

    • @kohoki666
      @kohoki666 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@9to5Mac as FIDO Key?

  • @fredbureau-russell7718
    @fredbureau-russell7718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t see myself ever using a security key. I’ve never owned a set of keys in my entire life. Every lock I’ve used since 2014. It’s been digital before then I still didn’t own key as I was a child. I haven’t used any physical credit cards or money since 2015 I haven’t used a real physical pen or pencil or paper since around 2010.

    • @MWM1293
      @MWM1293 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Weird flex but ok

    • @davidjacobs6244
      @davidjacobs6244 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bully for you 🙄