The Healing Music of Epirus | Christopher C. King | TEDxAthens

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  • A gentleman from the southern United States discovers folk music in rural Greece that is full of purpose--the music here is meant to heal those who hear it, participate in it. What results is a book and a lifelong odyssey into the function of music. Christopher C. King is a Grammy-winning producer, musicologist as well as a prominent 78 rpm collector. He has been profiled in the New York Times Magazine and the Washington Post, and has written for the Paris Review and the Oxford American. Christopher was born and raised in southwest Virginia and studied philosophy at Radford University. Over the course of the last ten years, he has researched the tradition of Greek demotika songs, especially in Epirus. In 2018, W.W. Norton published his book, Lament from Epirus: An Odyssey into Europe’s Old Surviving Folk Music, to wide critical acclaim. His book was named one of the top ten books of 2018 by the Wall Street Journal and Christopher has presented his work at the New York Public Library, the Gennadius Library of Athens as well as the Odeon Conservatoire in Athens, among other venues. He currently splits his time between the United States and Greece. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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  • @vickydoumas184
    @vickydoumas184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Being from that part of Greece, every cell of my body responds to this beautiful music. There's nothing like it...moves you to the core.

    • @gilconidaambat5917
      @gilconidaambat5917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You are so blessed to be born there. In the summer of 1978 I walked through Epirus. One day I arrived in a village where there was a fiesta. A small band was playing in an open space and every body was in the mood and relaxed. The music hit me like a hammer. (every cell of my body ... and soul) I put my backpack behind the band and fell asleep. I was in extasy till next morning when the elders with the children showed up. I repeated this in 2 more villages with the same band. Now 40 years later I would like to do it over next year or 2 years from now. If you or someone you know can give me advise....... I know its not easy because it must be unspoilt by tourism . Pure culture. Thanks

    • @alexstathas3681
      @alexstathas3681 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The music is real soul music it touches my heart my doul

    • @alexstathas3681
      @alexstathas3681 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love ❤️ Epirus my Birthplace,

  • @eugenemetayhas
    @eugenemetayhas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My mother's side of the family is from Epirus, and every time I listen to the folk music from the region I want to cry. There is a lot of pain and sadness in the music, but it is also very cathartic.

  • @gigigirl2229
    @gigigirl2229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My dad is from Epirus mountainside and he would often play this mirilogi music here where he migrated to in Australia...Thankyou for your great work

  • @philipgregorysougles1744
    @philipgregorysougles1744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Rediscovering the healing power of music, great speech!

  • @AMFIARAOS59
    @AMFIARAOS59 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Ευχαριστούμε, Cristopher, για όσα προσφέρεις στην Παράδοσή μας! Περισσότερο πια προσβλέπουμε στους Φιλέλληνες, παρά σε ορισμένους "Έλληνες"...

    • @Georged811
      @Georged811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ΄Ασε μας ρε φίλε. Έχουμε τους Αθηναίους που κοροϊδεύουν και περιφρονούν την τοπική παράδοση, γράφουν στα παλιά τους τα παπούτσια τους τοπικούς μουσικούς, αλλά χέζονται στο βρακί τους όταν έρχεται ο Αμερικάνος να τη θαυμάσει.... Η παραδοσιακή μουσική μπορεί και χωρίς αυτούς.

  • @makrides22
    @makrides22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Listening to you I got my answer, why I feel the way I feel when listening to Epirotic music.
    Thank you Christopher

  • @greisimani975
    @greisimani975 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My dear albanian and greek brothers Epirus is one of the most beautiful regions in the world with fantastic people amazing culture and heavenly music that for numerous reasons happens to be split in two between the oldest nations in Europe. Lets enjoy this beauty that only we have with the name Epirus north and south.

    • @user-of8ht8eh1m
      @user-of8ht8eh1m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The albanian have nothing common with the Arvanites the habitans in the north Epirus or Epirus nuova by Anna Komnini ,The ragion is in the north of ancient EPIRUS. The Almbanians reached in barbarian Illyric region ,which belonged toa barbarian German nation.

    • @Albz-qi2mr
      @Albz-qi2mr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-of8ht8eh1mAlbanians are the real Epiriotes, You are Turkish Pontic gypsies.

  • @AthSamaras
    @AthSamaras 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Το βιβλίο του χαρακτηρίστηκε ως ένα από τα δέκα πρώτα βιβλία του 2018 από την Wall Street Journal και ο Christopher παρουσίασε το έργο του στη Δημόσια Βιβλιοθήκη της Νέας Υόρκης, στη Γεννάδειο Βιβλιοθήκη της Αθήνας καθώς και στο Ωδείο Ωδείο Αθηνών, μεταξύ άλλων χώρων.

  • @anodyne57
    @anodyne57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Blues is a lamentation, no matter the culture, no matter the instrument, voice or no voice.
    Why does it exist? Because it's necessary.

    • @TheloniousCube
      @TheloniousCube 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And it brings us together

  • @maniacgr2617
    @maniacgr2617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Long live Epirus our homeland, Long live Greece.

    • @christianv6894
      @christianv6894 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your homeland is in Pontus, only Albanians and northern Greeks can claim Epirus.
      Go back to Anatolia!

    • @maniacgr2617
      @maniacgr2617 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christianv6894 what Pontus are u talking about? I am Epirote Greek,and albanians are chechen relatives.

    • @christianv6894
      @christianv6894 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maniacgr2617 hahaha alvanians ol tsetsens ol tsetsens vorios ipiros gr33k.
      Cringe brown skin ogre! You look very middle eastern in comparison hahahah!

    • @maniacgr2617
      @maniacgr2617 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christianv6894 "Albanians are pure Europeans" trust me bro,when an outsider bears in mind a European, he simultaniusly thinks of Albanians......lol.

    • @maniacgr2617
      @maniacgr2617 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christianv6894 in reality, u are the darkest europeans,in par with the Portuguese and more exotic looking.

  • @Sira628
    @Sira628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    και μετα σου λενε οτι η παραδοσιακη μουσικη ειναι ξεπερασμενη ο τυπας ηρθε απο νεα υορκη για να ακουσει ηπειρωτικα...

    • @AthSamaras
      @AthSamaras 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ...και μπράβο του. Μπράβο και σε σας που το επισημαίνετε..!

    • @elenamamais6047
      @elenamamais6047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AthSamaras Μπράβο ! Eiναι λεβεντης στη ψυχή και σώμα.

  • @PopsiclesInMyCellar
    @PopsiclesInMyCellar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beautiful music.

  • @bnast6849
    @bnast6849 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm Serbian and I always liked Greek music but when I heard music from Epirus it sounded out of this world for me, no matter I don't understand a word of greek it touches deepest parts of my soul.

    • @DerrkuciCufo
      @DerrkuciCufo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's basically music of Albanian language transcended into Greek as well after the Greek revolution, and it's alive on both sides of the border. At the best can belong to both according to nowadays standards but deep down its origin is pretty clear. Same story as Fustanella.

    • @bnast6849
      @bnast6849 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DerrkuciCufo I know brother but it's important that people realize that they have more things in common than they have differences. I wish all people from the Balkans get along...

    • @Usera2324dfre
      @Usera2324dfre 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@DerrkuciCufo why you say so much 🗑
      So ridiculous conclusions
      So much jealousness

    • @HK-pp9ig
      @HK-pp9ig 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bnast6849 bnast, for real? I did not expect a Serb responding so nicely to an Albanian on a sensitive topic like this. Greetings.

    • @HK-pp9ig
      @HK-pp9ig 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Usera2324dfre It is Epirus on both sides of the border. I was in Ioannina many years ago on an international event, and the hosts brought in a folk band that played this kind of music... it is very similar if not the same music on the Albanian side of the border.

  • @TheoTheGreek1821
    @TheoTheGreek1821 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing

  • @kucam12mischablue
    @kucam12mischablue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mioroloi means to cry/meow in Romania. Fantastic.

  • @ME-fo7si
    @ME-fo7si ปีที่แล้ว

    Because we weep for the wisdom of our elders, our loss of them our certitude to them our elders of this world.

  • @TheNomikiShow
    @TheNomikiShow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My family is from Epirus and yes there is communal transcendence to this music. And I fully appreciate your genuine love for the music that came of pain and love. But I was a little taken back that this needed to be delivered by a “westerner” like this is some undiscovered land. And it was delivered to Athenians. I mean - I could go on and on but - what?!!

    • @TheloniousCube
      @TheloniousCube 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because he is introducing it to a wider audience

  • @SophiahKoikasWindyQueen
    @SophiahKoikasWindyQueen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how far back would this be in public domain? great lecture.

    • @SonBrimmer
      @SonBrimmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I realize this is late response, but saw your comment. Some music from the 20's and 30's (like what we're hearing here) is public domain, some of it is not. It's really hard to find out who owns what. BMI and ASCAP are the only databases I know of to search, but they seem unreliable, and are by no means complete. I've looked up things recorded in 1930, only to find the song owned by someone who covered the song in the early 2000's. The best way I've found to see who owns what, is to upload an old record to youtube, and if it gets flagged, someone owns it. I'm always surprised to find out what is owned, and what isn't. fairly well known songs can be public domain, and total obscurities that yield no information from a google search can be owned by some company you've never heard of. It's strange. TLDR some is some isn't, and it's pretty random.

  • @JimmuClarku
    @JimmuClarku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Η Πεντατονία. Μουσική της ψυχής. Επόμενος ομιλητής...

  • @TheloniousCube
    @TheloniousCube 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This completely meshes with the Grateful Dead experience - communal healing. Jerry was a Master

  • @praisegod3768
    @praisegod3768 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES!! Love the music of Epirus (Arete Ketime a great example) ... thank you for this!

    • @Georged811
      @Georged811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Areti Ketime has nothing to do with the music of Epirus.

  • @she_talks_public_speaking
    @she_talks_public_speaking 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    fANtastic!!

  • @demetrisgeorgoulis6334
    @demetrisgeorgoulis6334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Η παραδοσιακή μουσική η οποία αναπτύχθηκε μέσα στο πέρασμα των χρόνων σε κοινωνία μη αστική φαντάζει απόμακρη ίσως πολλές φορές στην σύγχρονη αστική Ελλάδα. Είναι περισσότερο 'παραδοσιακή' και μάλλον λιγότερο βιωματική απο ότι ήταν κάποτε. Έχει μεγάλο ενδιαφέρον η ανάλυση του εξωτερικού παρατηρητή που αναλύει την παραδοσιακή μουσική χωρίς να την έχει συνηθίσει ως μουσική απο μικρός. Τονίζει ιδιαίτερα τον παράγοντα 'healing΄ το οποίο μεταφράζεται ως 'θεραπεία΄ . Πράγματι η μουσική γενικά και η Ηπειρωτική ή παραδοσιακή μουσική μαζί με τον χορό έχουν τα χαρακτηριστικά της θεραπείας ή κάθαρσης. Από τον καημό του αγαπημένου προσώπου που δεν είναι μαζί μας πλέον(μοιρολόι) στην δυσκολία και αβεβαιότητα της καθημερινής ζωής και στην χαρά και περηφάνια. Αρκετές φορές με φαινομενικά αντιφατικούς ήχους και ρυθμούς. Δεν είναι όλοι οι χοροί λυπημένοι αν δεν είναι τσάμικο. Και δεν είναι όλοι οι περήφανοι χοροί τσάμικα.

  • @jetonbalidemaj
    @jetonbalidemaj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Albanian iso-poliphony check it out healing vibrations

  • @thehabibis8292
    @thehabibis8292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It is a regional music shared by two neighbouring countries.... North Western Greece and Southern Albania...Each of these
    'countries" can lay claim to this special music. This is known...and the songs are so ingrained in both these areas on either side there is no point in debating it's provenance. . Neither Greeks or Albanians probably don't need a lectur about the music that still lives and flourishes in their lands. But good that it is better known throughout the world kai such talks. It is not possible to divide the music or differentiate this music - except by differences in language and the secrets of each musical 'company" - Musicians knows this..In fact - each village and company/family play in their own manner, with their own secrets and style...the differences in the music is more between players and their location than countries..Enjoy the music....And let's pay respects to the 'Western" musical instrument they play on..the violin and clarinet...Homage must also be paid to the Western Europeans for making some flexible and agile instruments.. You can tell I'm a musician!

  • @MKokalari
    @MKokalari ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is not homeric music. This is vlach music that slowly transferred to Albanian and Greek music. Miroloi means "lament" in eastern Romance. Also "samantaka" stands for "Osman Taka", an Albanian Chamides that danced before being shot by the Ottomans. You should see it danced by Albanians. It is a sight to behold.

  • @HB-kf8cw
    @HB-kf8cw ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sa muzik e bukur Çame nuk ka lidhje aspak me muziken Greke ,,vetëm gënjështer‘‘ shqipe e pastër🇦🇱🇦🇱👍🏻

    • @Diapontios
      @Diapontios ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I really pity you, don't be ashamed of the truth. Enough with the complexes..

    • @Usera2324dfre
      @Usera2324dfre ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You have nothing with epirus
      Epirus is greek name
      Polyphonic is greek name
      Except that you came near us
      And you are jealous

  • @LiveWire276
    @LiveWire276 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Epirus is not only Greek. Vlach, Slavs, and Albanians also live there.
    My family is from southern Albania (Vlore). I notice we have similar music to our Vlach, Greek, and Aegean/Epirote Slavic brethren. We are very similar culturally. Only religiously we are somewhat different

    • @nardi493
      @nardi493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I've heard many times that melody in albanian music. Besides the nationalistic names we give to these things it's amazing.

    • @user-cq6cf4uw5s
      @user-cq6cf4uw5s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Epirus is Epirotic and belongs to the people who live there or love it., whether they speak Greek, Sqhip, English or Roman Vlach, whether they are Atheists, Christians or Muslims, whether their passport says ''Greek'', ''Albanian'' or ''American'' nationality...

    • @lypcizhenaf8988
      @lypcizhenaf8988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Μπουκα Πορτες Very true brother

    • @demetriusp.5020
      @demetriusp.5020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Music is geographic brother, not ethnic.

    • @anddyandii5857
      @anddyandii5857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-cq6cf4uw5s aye aye to that from an albanian who dissagrees with history in so many cases but greeks and albanians have been brothers and sisters for centuries as it should be for centuries to come enough with racism and the past enough

  • @esi2047
    @esi2047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Such beautiful music from Çameria southern epirus Long live Albania

    • @user-qt6vx4ht8h
      @user-qt6vx4ht8h 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you albanians spread like a bad rash, stalking anything to do with Greece, don't you have anything better to do?

    • @Dinosaur315
      @Dinosaur315 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Epirus-Greek before caucasus immigrants settled there

  • @southepirote7676
    @southepirote7676 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Literally pure Albanian music

  • @burimberisha8759
    @burimberisha8759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    the name of first track is : Alexis Zoumbas ~ Tzamara Arvanitiko / Albanian / Arvanit / Arnaut / Arbresh aka SHQIPTAR (GOLDEN EAGLE)
    The healing music of Pyrrhus of Epirus ;)

    • @Elstocks21
      @Elstocks21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Arvanites have nothing to do with the Epirotes bud. The Epirotes are, were and will always be Greek. Stop misrepresenting history

    • @Eagle_data
      @Eagle_data ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Elstocks21 po me ta qi rracen si bohet?

    • @intelliGENeration
      @intelliGENeration ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Elstocks21Arbanites are Arbans, called so by the Roman cartographers, meaning Dorian (Forrester/Druid... Druian in Albanian)... from the Latin word Arbor (now Albero, in Italian).
      There’s a region in Italy called Colli Albani (which means Forested Hills).
      If you think that Dorian invasions didn’t come from Epirus, you must have failed History in school brother.
      Epirus is the ancient root word of Shq-Ipër(us). It just means highland (Epëri), and is synonyms with Molossia (Målësia), or now, though only a portion of it... Zagoria (Slavic).
      Ergo, Epëria (Epirus) is the highland of Arbania (“Doria”). Greeks were made of Dorian stock, including Dorians that came from Epirus... and everyone is 1 big Arvanites family! 😁
      Unless there was a spacecraft that magically dropped “Greeks” in Epirus... a new breed of people that coincidentally looks Albanian, has the same tribe names and language as Albanians... the only reasonable conclusion is that Dorians, founders of Sparta and Athens, were Albanian.
      Now you can pretend to laugh laboriously.

  • @donjumbo8061
    @donjumbo8061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Long live Albania and our music

    • @Usera2324dfre
      @Usera2324dfre 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which musik , you came near us And you adopted this music !

  • @Albz-qi2mr
    @Albz-qi2mr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Albanian music

  • @thisoldpod
    @thisoldpod ปีที่แล้ว +1

    he discovered folk music in rural greece? he should've went to albania that music is centuries old and is Albanian not greek not slav.

  • @superalbania9467
    @superalbania9467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Osman taka albanian hero 🇦🇱

  • @beoms
    @beoms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    so many albanian propaganda here and no one ban them....

  • @grandhouse2717
    @grandhouse2717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As a matter of fact tsamiko as Greek call it or chamiko is albanian dance from region of Chameria. The Muslim Albanians of Chameria were massacred and forced to leave everything behind crossing the border never to return.
    The orthodox albanians are assimilated and afraid to reveal their identity.
    Today Greeks call tsamiko their national dance, the dance named after the population they massacred and forced to flee to Albania.

    • @messialex6517
      @messialex6517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just for your information, tsamiko was first called "kfleftiko" in other words, the dance of the thieves, those were seen as such, that's why the name became tsamiko

    • @WeeePlako
      @WeeePlako 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Alexander The Great Sorry ,I’m not going to discuss in this level of ignorance. Educate yourself. Peace ✌🏻

    • @HK-pp9ig
      @HK-pp9ig 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@messialex6517 Yep... after the ottomans took over Greece, much of the Greek people left their cities, went to the mountains away from the reach of Turks, and lived in poverty and substinence from nature... komites/kleftikes would ambush turkish caravans,... this was life until WW1 in much of Greece hinterlands.

  • @mega9158
    @mega9158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Albanian

  • @southepirote7676
    @southepirote7676 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cham genocide

  • @romapping2105
    @romapping2105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Epirus is 100% Aromanian🇷🇴🇷🇴

  • @atdhepopaj8309
    @atdhepopaj8309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    typical albanian music

    • @Moutopher
      @Moutopher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Typical troll.

    • @Stanley_Ca.
      @Stanley_Ca. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Epirus is not Turkish Slavic

  • @artchannel8401
    @artchannel8401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this is albanian music,transferred to greek when the albanian arvanitas ware assimilated to greek.

    • @anddyandii5857
      @anddyandii5857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes in this case you are right what can you tell the rest of the world

    • @antonischrisostomidis6223
      @antonischrisostomidis6223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Did you hear this music is 10.000 years old ? Albanians lived I Caspian sea !!!! Nowhere near hpeiros !!!! 2000.kilometers away from hpeiros !!!look where you come from ! You don't know where you come from? This is so funny !

    • @antonischrisostomidis6223
      @antonischrisostomidis6223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And all musicians are Greek in the records ! None is Albanian !and he doesn't mention anything about Albanians !!!!

    • @Stanley_Ca.
      @Stanley_Ca. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sad Slavic Albanian troll lol 🤣

    • @Piloti.
      @Piloti. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@antonischrisostomidis6223 Funny is the fact that you truly believe that Albania in Caucasus has to do with nowadays Albanians. Disinformation at its best.

  • @Eagle-jo8cx
    @Eagle-jo8cx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    100 % Albanian

    • @konstantinosdimitriou8092
      @konstantinosdimitriou8092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      100% Greek,don't get confused.Are there any Albanians who recorded that kind of music?If so,you can upload it,but don't embrace foreign countries folk culture,claiming to be Albanian.

    • @Moutopher
      @Moutopher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Be gone, smelly smelly troll.

    • @masternippleblaster
      @masternippleblaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Epirus 🇬🇷